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It does indeed, and if you used phone in a mount for sat nav. It would mark you down for screen being active as well whilst driving. Have a look at the reviws here of actual customers as well. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.motability.drivesmart&hl=en_GB
Oh dear, oh dear. Talk about Big Brother š
I always use my phone on journeys to use Waze, not as a satnav, but for warnings for speed cameras, potholes, upcoming accidents etc which it is excellent for. No way on earth would I (Nor should anyone!) allow this tracking app willingly to spy on me everywhere that I go.
Well, Motability can stick it where the sun doesnāt shine if they bring this in for existing customers!
itās bad enough having to turn off all the āsafetyā aids (joke in itself!) ridden with bugs each and every time you start a modern car never mind be monitored by a black box that tells you how to drive. As a man in his 60ās who is a holder of an advanced driving course certificate I will NOT have any more carp telling me how best to drive and also monitoring me at all times!
Stelantis should have waited until April 1st to release this price list! š¤£š¤£
Ā£7k for the 5 door EV version, what planet are they on? The scheme is on its way to (deliberate?) oblivion the way the AP prices are rising. And the dumbed down red top rag readers seriously believe we get āfreeā cars? šš¤”
Great news that itās gone, obviously.
But ā¦ Iāve never believed it was some random, lone individual behind the website. Far bigger forces behind it IMHO and it was a tool used for an intended outcome which was achieved a few days ago. And then (not by chance, not by coincidence) Ā job done the website then disappears.
Iāve lost years of my life sitting on that you know šš¤£š¤£
I can see that 8mph would be great on a stairlift!
oh definitely!! š
Some years back a friend gave all the big talk and said it was very easy to do, he would just change a gear and sorted. Of course when I said yes do it ā¦ he went all quiet.
My scooter only does 5 mph which is painful. Love it when I go to Spain where 17 kph seems the order of the day, itās what it should be here.
Far more pressing, for me anyway, would be to make the speed of my stairlift at least double what it currently is! Iāve lost years of my life sitting on that you know šš¤£š¤£
@especially Do you have a motability online account set up? If so what does it say about restrictions. if anything? If you do not have a motability online account, you can set one up here https://activate.motabilityoperations.co.uk/create/pre-check?utm_source=sign-in&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=self-registration This would be helpful for you.
yes I have an online account. My application is approved. The dealer didnāt even put any details of car/me in before he got the restriction screen. Possibly the dealer is restricted?
I had this happen once a few years ago where the dealer was placed upon restriction and couldnāt order any cars. Turned out the Motability sales people at the dealership hadnāt completed enough Motability training and couldnāt order any cars until Motability were satisfied they were competent.
Could be the case for you too or similar?
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/beware-latest-pip-review-form Highly advise getting Welfare Rights, CA etc filling it in, with as much info as possible on seperate pages.
Couldnt agree more! I used to get help from someone from the local council years ago but as support dwindled away to nothing I became a member of the website you linked kezo. Easily the BEST thing Iāve ever done when it comes to dealing with these forms. Once a member you get full access to the constantly updated guides to download which are superb!
I used their guide when changing from DLA to PIP years ago and the result was an indefinite award with a light touch review every 10 years. Couldnt have been happier. Itās all in the detail and how you write it.
I think everyone is slowly being forced off the roads and Motability customers are easily priced out of motoring. By 2030+ the price of cars, insurance, road tax, fuel and electric will be prohibitive for all but the wealthy.
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Anybody who thinks otherwise is ill informed Iām afraid. A simple check of the UN website and Agenda 21/2030 tells you all you need to know.
Who wouldnāt agree that zero tail pipe emissions is a huge improvement outside the school gates. No price can be put on childrenās health. but feeling smug can be countered by knowledge of the big picture. Your Volvo EX30 is made in China, by owners Geely, a Chinese Company. Having mined raw materials, @50% more than for an ICE equivalent and transported them from Chile, Congo etc to make 600 kg batteries, the heavy, finished car is transported by a Ro Ro, diesel powered ship, thousands of miles to the UK. It is much heavier than an ICE, causing extra tyre wear and particulate pollution, plus extra wear to roads. If the battery casing is damaged if you are in an accident, the whole car if often written off, an environmental disaster vs repairable ice cars with a much longer lifespan. Fuel: high calorific petrol is burned very efficiently in situ. Itās journey to the fuel tank not so great. base load electricity is a shambles in the uk. Gas from Qatar or Texas is subjected to being liquified, transported by diesel ships, converted back to gas and ends up in a part time inefficient power station that supplies electricity to the grid and there are losses in transmission and the step down transformers. Then the car has inverters and rectifiers as AC has to be converted to DC and there are further losses in the motors. Chinese solar panels, made in part with slave labour, and giant turbine blades that cannot be recycled do not produce reliable base load, but are great when the weather is favourable. Buying from European neighbours means our energy is the most expensive in the developed world and four times the USA. Where is the extra power coming from for replacing 20 million ice cars, factories to build them with imported steel, data centres, heat pumps etc etc. we canāt just buy everything from China because we are already bankrupt. Go Ed. Audi and Jaguar spent billions developing the EQ8 and I Pace. The bespoke new factories in Belgium and Austrian are now being closed. 3000 I paces bought back and scraped due unresolvable fire risk. What an environmental disaster. Owners are far from smug about huge financial loses. New battery tech cannot come soon enough.
šÆ Greenwashing, the biggest con the motor industry has seen.
The point about the ability to park free of charge in many council run car parks, as well as on parking meters, many railway stations etc is a good one. I sometimes wish that Iād kept a little notebook in the car from when we first got a Blue Badge recording how much weāve saved over the years. Weāve definitely saved over Ā£1,000 over the years and probably a lot more. Best example was a short break that we did in York. We stayed in a City Centre hotel that didnāt have a car park but we were able to park in a nearby local authority car park free of charge. Without the Blue Badge the charge was something ridiculous like Ā£18 a day š±
Good points. Iāve saved loads over the years by parking in railway station car parks even though not using the train.
APCOA car parks which many stations use are free for blue badge holders for any length of time (a week even!). For instance, when visiting somewhere like Brighton where car parking is a complete nightmare and very expensive I just park at Brighton station, get the scooter out and forget about the car or having to get back at a certain time. Stayed there for 4 days once, just left the car parked Ā there (just do it all on the app, register your reg No & leave blue badge in window). Brilliant! š
Thank you @Oscarmax I was beginning to wonder if the R8 was on the scheme at the same time that the Aston Martin DB7 and Ferrari 328 GTS were š On a serious note, it doesnāt help when people repeat some of the garbage online as being fact on this forum. We know of at least one anti-Motability YouTuber who used this forum to source info for one of his videos, so we donāt need to feed the trolls with untrue information that they can then throw back at us.
No, it was the Ferrari 360 that was on the scheme with the DB7. Ishould know, I had both on back to back leases. šš¤”š¤£
āPeople with the most severe disabilities or with health conditions that will never improve will never be reassessedā. Pensioners that went onto the Amber Rudd PIP light touch 10 year plan,which was brought in because it was not expected that pensioners are ever going to get better. Now i have not seen any mention of pensioners and the above in this green paper.
Great point Mick, not seeing any mention about the 10 year light touch anywhere at all. You donāt have to be a pensioner either to be on the 10 year light assessment path. Mind you, Iāve always had doubts as to how light the assessment would actually be, as we know moving the goalposts seems to be a regular thing with DWP & government. I thought I had DLA for life, how wrong that proved to be! š³š
Their āclaimedā consultation is an absolute farce. The questions are loaded, it lacks questions about the key issues because they have been already decided and are not part of the āNOT a green paperā consultation to begin with.
I filled it in last week but tbh itās utterly pointless in my opinion due to the above. Theyāve already decided. Thereās nowhere on the form that deals with the key issues and problems. Itās just a red herring Trojan horse. š
Great breakdown of this on B&W. It really isnāt good. šµāš«
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-launches-entirely-bogus-green-paper-consultation
Brilliant breakdown of the sham green paper over on B&W website that EVERYONE should read. Itās far worse than we all thought Iām afraid. Hopefully another legal challenge will come forth from this. Talk about deceitful! As I said in my earlier post, it aināt no green paper at all, itās a sham illusion of a green paper – A Trojan Horse in fact!
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-launches-entirely-bogus-green-paper-consultation
Well, the green paper has been published and after a very quick look the first thing that stands out to me is that most of the things mentioned in parliament in that speech are not part of a green paper consultation at all and are going ahead with dates listed. Donāt quite know what to make about so much of it after that vague (deliberately no doubt) speech by Kendall. Highly ambiguous at best, no meat on the bones at all. šš
Annex A for the list of whatās happening and when.
Iām afraid this whole thread is exactly what the interests behind these influential publications want: itās distraction tactics. Look away from the powerful moneyed interests at the top of our society, who have seen their tax thresholds reduced & their tax avoidance unscrutinised. Weāre still paying off the national debt incurred from the banking crisis & the massive fraud from profiteers during covid, but donāt talk about that, letās blame those with no voice; the poor, the disabled, ethnic minorities etc etc. And it works, because here we are, many in receipt of benefits talking about the odd person whoās abused the system or we donāt think is deserving of the same benefits & ignoring the elephant in the room.
Best post on this thread by a mile!
The government/s use the legacy media to do this whenever they wish. They did exactly the same during covid and the public fell for all the lies about a ākiller diseaseā then just as they are now with these lies on disability. They want those affected to turn on each other, the classic divide and rule tactics that have been used by power for time in memorial.
The very best thing to do is simply ignore the lies and propaganda designed to turn us on each other. Donāt play their evil little game!
I canāt wait Brydo will tell you all about it first thing in morning everyone I know loves Haggis
If you enjoy that Mike, which Iām sure you will, the next step should be a deep fried one from a Glasgow chippy followed by a deep fried Mars bar for dessert. Beautiful!! ššš¤£
Original or proper offal Haggis is not to my liking, as a Scottish friend found out after we had four day stay with them many years ago. Visits since have been mock haggis made with spiced minced meat in a sheeps stomach, which is carefully rejected to one side at the disgust of his wife. On a positive note the Highlands scenery is superb.
Not all are like that Kezo but I understand what you are saying. Iāve tried some and they taste disgusting to my tastes, far too gamey with probably (I guess) far too much offal in them. The MacSweens brand I mentioned in the post above is a much milder tasting wee beastie than many. Maybe give it another try? šš
Love haggis, one of my favourite meals and having it for tea tonight! š
MacSweens haggis is one of the best Iāve ever tried, Sainsburyās sell it this time of year and itās beautiful. However, after a bit of research I discovered that MacSweens make the Haggis for Lidl under the “MacAndDonalds” brand name and itās a mere Ā£1.49 for a 400g haggis and what Iām trying tonight.
Hoping itās the same recipe. If it is Iām clearing the shelves at my local Lidl tomorrow and filling the freezer. š¤£š¤£
Yep, same problem as you. I donāt drive very often at night now but bought a cheap pair of clip-on yellow lenses from Amazon and they have helped a fair bit. Donāt know if itās my frames but I do find these clip-ons can spring off if I touch them when driving. If you donāt touch them then fine. š
Link here – https://amzn.eu/d/1l8ezln
Iād just go into the surgery and ask the receptionist if theyāve got a clean coffee mug I can borrow for a couple of minutes. šš
Thanks so much for that Joss. Provides *some* small relief from all their awful, ongoing rhetoric and demonisation of chronically disabled people ā¦ for now at least.
Iām one thing with physical disabilities but my poor brother in law who has terrible mental health issues is beyond consoling these days with the non stop rhetoric being dished out and itās already been a full time job for my sister keeping a watch on him to ensure his safety. The lockdown years were bad enough when heād flip after being caged in at home and go AWOL and having to get the police helicopter out looking for the poor fella to try and save him from himself so add all this on top now a couple of years later & he just canāt cope.
The whole welfare system and the dangerous, merciless rhetoric from various officials is absolutely disgusting. It sickens me at the damage they do just with cruel words. š”
Play on words for the old signed up dealerships methinks :- āPartners in its franchised network are shifting to agency model contracts which position them as a service provider for Volvo, which will be the retailer.ā
Exactly this. It is now an agency model.
All Volvo dealers are now is basically a shop front. You order a car and after that itās over to Volvo UK with the dealer having very little allowed input or information provided by Volvo on the order until the car (finally) arrives on their premises.
