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Although this is a car forum we all that are on motability reliant on welfare due to the fact we are disabled and under DLA and PIP we all are different and some are able to work under the Allowance. Some may be retired and on DLA or PIP we still have no clue what this gov is going to do but to be fair the Con Gov started the grean paper and Labour have said they ruled out the vouchers but not totally Liz kendall has said and I do think know they have pledged more spending on defence they are saying it will hit all spending which is worrying. We know they say they are going to alter tighten eligibility and leaving everyone not knowing since getting into gov is very cruel to all of us are we all going to be destitute under this Labour gov as in the winter fuel cuts which was not thought out and waiting now for 26th March they say to hear what maybe going to happen. Strange there is no talk about our Mobility which is part of DLA and PIP. There is one thing they say it may take a long time to sort this out but they did it very quickly with WFA I do think that the courts may have something to say as well.
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I don’t see the point in causing unnecessary worry and stress.
We don’t know what’s going to happen, simple as that. Until any changes are proposed then there’s little reason to discuss the unknown.
Well the gov say they will have to cut 3 million now it’s 5 Million and you say not to worry when our life depend on this income how can we not.
I totally agree with Dottie85, gone are my days of worrying about government things, it’s an obvious shambles created to cause stress and worry, I don’t even watch news channels now it’s great, I’m oblivious to the crap 👍
Hi blue,
My personal experience has been that over a decade ago, the Gov wrote a letter to me of many pages advising me I would be moved from DLA to PIP sometime….I’m still waiting.
In the meantime, I’m aware of many people applying for PIP and Enhanced Care rate higher than my Middle DLA. I know why the Gov doesn’t want to ‘move’ me on to PIP is because they will have to give me Enhanced PIP and give me more money than currently.
As well as not moving legacy DLA people who likely would go straight in to Enhanced Care rate and therefore cost more money, they are giving PIP awards for shorter terms, and starting the re-assessing process as soon as they can. A lot of people in the PIP system being repeatedly seen, rather than the whole point of it over a decade ago, DLA to PIP.
By my calculations, I’ve missed out on about £10k worth extra care payments.
It’s tempting to try to move to PIP, but they are such, well, liars, distort facts, etc, even I think they would suddenly claim having paralysis, falling over, etc, is not really a problem for me after all.
The thing is the Gov think there are too many claiming all the sickness Allowances including ESA DLA which everyone will have to go over to unless they were over pension age when PIP came into fruition and e gov wants to cut these Allowances which is not a good idea to start with.
and e gov wants to cut these Allowances which is not a good idea to start with.
More scare mongering!
The government have not announced any cuts to any disability allowances.
Some people do seem happy to be wallowing in and peddling utter tosh, based on nothing but rumour based on rumour, based on tabloid journalists’ wild musings, based on fresh air!
If, as or when the Government make a formal announcement on any such matters, that is the time to discuss them.
Until then, spreading such rumours and journalistic hogwash only serves to pile even more distress, worry and anxiety on to those who do genuinely worry about such matters.
Perhaps sign up to the Benifits and Work newsletter and when/if the time comes e gov changes anything, you will have at least balanced and accurate first hand information. Listening and worrying about what the scaremongering daily depress rags say, will put you in an early grave!
Already a member I do not think this is scaremongering come on be sensible this is serious if you wish to bury your head in the sand so be it as this is coming from Rachel Reeves has been putting this out not newspapers as she needs to cut so much money from welfare it is the biggest ever so do not come crying back here on 26th march and by the way I am on PIP not DLA. I think I would now rather be in Scotland as they transferred all PIP claimants onto there new Adult Disability Allowance.
I agree there’s no point in worrying about what might or might not happen. There is substantial abuse in the benefits system, especially post covid, so some tightening up is definitely needed, but those with genuine need will be OK. However, Rachel from accounts (or, more accurately, Rachel from Customer Services) is managing to destroy the economy even before this, so the damage is already done. There are far more issues that worry me about broken Britain than this!
Well people at benefits and work are very worried as I get full state pension I lost my first winter fuel payment which I was looking forward to so it happens I cannot do nothing about it like many.
It’s very saddening Blue, however what will be is just that..
Hope something crops up to ease your concern’s.
Reading between the lines and listening to ministers, I think they will be looking at younger people. Only yesterday, Reeves apparently said “having a million young people not in employment education or training is a stain 0n our country”.
Reading between the lines and listening to ministers, I think they will be looking at younger people. Only yesterday, Reeves apparently said “having a million young people not in employment education or training is a stain 0n our country”.
I think you are right and young people and all people under a certain working age but still think many should not be forced into work just to cut welfare bill as that will not work.
Just been a report on ITV news following the government proposals having been leaked.
PIP to be frozen next year and a further £6 billion of cuts to be made.
PIP claim criteria to be made much stricter and other out of work benefits to be linked to much stricter rules on looking for work.
No longer speculation. It seems that the Labour government are going where the Conservatives felt was a step too far!
You say you’d rather be in Scotland…my wife just got switched over and within a week they then sent her a letter changing her next ADP assessment date from June ’26 to May ’25.
And they will make the same changes, perhaps worse, as they can (and always do say) that its Westminster to blame…
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Just been a report on ITV news following the government proposals having been leaked. PIP to be frozen next year and a further £6 billion of cuts to be made. PIP claim criteria to be made much stricter and other out of work benefits to be linked to much stricter rules on looking for work. No longer speculation. It seems that the Labour government are going where the Conservatives felt was a step too far!
I saw an interview with ‘Rachel from accounts’ (or Rachel from customer services as I more accurately call her) on Sky News yesterday. She specifically highlighted the fact that since the pandemic the number of young people (under 25?) not in employment, education or training, has risen to over 1 million. I am no fan of this disastrous government, but that does need tackling. People of working age should look for reasons why they can work, not reasons why they can’t.
IMHO the bar for being able to get benefits does need to be higher, but this will be very difficult now as the flood gates opened a few years ago when qualifying criteria and definitions of what constitutes a ‘disability’ was widened to include things that were previously deemed ‘health conditions’. The unintended consequence of this change is that when hard working tax payers see people with conditions that the majority of people would not consider to be ‘disabilities’ languishing at home on benefits, sympathy levels vanish and that has a negative impact on everyone.
The one thing that I wouldn’t agree with would be the freezing of PIP rates, but I doubt that would happen. We are in the run up to a budget and governments of all colours always adopt the same pre-budget approach. They allow discussion documents to be leaked that include things that would be deeply unpopular but have already been discounted. These things cause outrage and grab the headlines, but when the budget is finally announced they don’t happen. However, plenty of other negative things do happen, but rather than generating negative headlines, there is relief that the worst of the proposals didn’t happen, so all the negative stuff slips in under the radar. Call me a cynic, but it’s happened prior to every budget that I can recall over many decades!
Just been a report on ITV news following the government proposals having been leaked. PIP to be frozen next year and a further £6 billion of cuts to be made. PIP claim criteria to be made much stricter and other out of work benefits to be linked to much stricter rules on looking for work. No longer speculation. It seems that the Labour government are going where the Conservatives felt was a step too far!
I saw an interview with ‘Rachel from accounts’ (or Rachel from customer services as I more accurately call her) on Sky News yesterday. She specifically highlighted the fact that since the pandemic the number of young people (under 25?) not in employment, education or training, has risen to over 1 million. I am no fan of this disastrous government, but that does need tackling. People of working age should look for reasons why they can work, not reasons why they can’t. IMHO the bar for being able to get benefits does need to be higher, but this will be very difficult now as the flood gates opened a few years ago when qualifying criteria and definitions of what constitutes a ‘disability’ was widened to include things that were previously deemed ‘health conditions’. The unintended consequence of this change is that when hard working tax payers see people with conditions that the majority of people would not consider to be ‘disabilities’ languishing at home on benefits, sympathy levels vanish and that has a negative impact on everyone. The one thing that I wouldn’t agree with would be the freezing of PIP rates, but I doubt that would happen. We are in the run up to a budget and governments of all colours always adopt the same pre-budget approach. They allow discussion documents to be leaked that include things that would be deeply unpopular but have already been discounted. These things cause outrage and grab the headlines, but when the budget is finally announced they don’t happen. However, plenty of other negative things do happen, but rather than generating negative headlines, there is relief that the worst of the proposals didn’t happen, so all the negative stuff slips in under the radar. Call me a cynic, but it’s happened prior to every budget that I can recall over many decades!
I think I agree with just about everything you said there, but unfortunately nowadays anyone speaking common sense seems to get shouted down by a tiny minority that think that if they protest loud enough they will get their own way.
I know two young people under 25 both of whom get PIP for mental health problems. One of them is a schizophrenic who lives on his own and is constantly taken advantage of, people come into his home and steal his possessions and take his money, he has an adult care worker who spends around 12 hours a week helping him. The other person I know has anxiety and depression and has never worked. I’m not judging anyone, but you can see there are different situations and I understand where Reeves is coming from.
“ITV reported that the government would seek to make billions of pounds of welfare savings by making it harder to qualify for Personal Independence Payments, a disability benefit, and freezing those payments next year so they do not rise with inflation.
The changes would also see a rise in the basic rate of Universal Credit paid to those searching for work, or in work, but a cut for those who are judged as unfit to work.”
So our Rach from accounts believes those that are disabled and unfit for work should be pushed into poverty even more. This isn’t Labour!
I’m currently dealing with UC for my adult Autistic son.
As his appointee I receive his payments into my account and transfer a set amount each month to his. The rest is used for clothing, household necessities, travel expenses, a weekly big food shop etc. etc. etc. He is vunerable and easily taken advantage of, this way I can assure he’ll always have money available should he need it (at least while I’m still alive, what happens after that we’re still working on!)
They’ve asked for his bank records going back 4 months as well as a copy of his passport and a photo of him with it next to his face. I’m not happy giving them a copy of his passport with all the details intact as that would make it very easy for someone to duplicate.
After dealing with the various DWP departments for over 25 years I’m afraid I trust UC about as far as I can spit 🙁
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
The worst thing about these policies is that loads of genuine people will get caught in the net and denied access to something they should really have. Especially if the people reviewing claims have a target to hit in terms of reducing the number of successful claims. If you’re close to the line your claim will be in the bin. Then it will cost even more to appeal and maybe go to tribunal etc.
The general public love these kind of policies as they have this idea that they’re getting cheated out of their tax money and it makes them feel better if they think someone is trying to fix that.
The fact is that millions of £ are wasted every single day in every area of the country and that’s just part of the cost of running a country of this size.
Once you add the admin costs of these polices i would imagine it’s hardly worth doing and you’d likely get a better return on redeploying the thousands of civil servants that will be required into reclaiming tax money from something bigger (actual tax fraud for example).
it is my understanding that benefit fraud is nowhere near the top fraud out there yet it gets a disproportionate amount of publicity
@DBtruth Pat McFadden is doing the media round this morning and is saying that they need to reduce the numbers claiming disability benefits and reduce civil service numbers as well, so it’s not going to a a case of one over the other – looks like it will be both!
Is he Elon Musk in disguise? 😂
to be honest the term “civil servant” covers everything from people working in Whitehall to people answering the phones in a Hmrc call centre so it’s a pretty broad term. Got to wait to see who they want to cut I guess.(unless he was specific I’ve not heard what he said).
no matter what they say, people with disabilities will end up getting rinsed somehow. Hopefully I am wrong though!
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