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10,000 x £0.28 is £2,800 a year. Over 3 years, £8,400 for the 30k miles extra, you get now. For those who needing 20k a year. Which is what the allowance is now, that is way too high.
The highest mileage. I’ve personally given a car back was with 42k or 45k on the clock.
So 12k over the 30k 3-year proposed allowance. I would have had to pay an extra £3,360. Luckily, my mileage has reduced somewhat. Now I’m only around doing 7k a year. Which is hardly anything. 3k spare, a year.
We are now homeschooling our daughter, and we might make a lot of regular Educational trips. I’m the only driver in our household.
I was considering doing a trip to almost the Arctic Circle, for her to see the aurora borealis. Passing through and stopping off in as many countries and places getting there and back to experience the cultures, language and food, 1st hand.
Oh, but you’re disabled, so you shouldn’t be allowed to do those sorts of trips, out of the UK, in your scheme car that’s suitable for your needs.
The last time I took my scheme car out of the UK was in 2019, and since 2011. When I originally joined the scheme only once. So maybe they should include the option for one trip a year, and after that, you pay more.
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That was quick, I think it took Octopus 7-10 days to get meter reading. Hope all goes well tonightfor you, I will have to look out the window tonight and see how greener the night is. Green moon perhaps!
Yep, it sure was, I’m not complaining though.
This upcoming week. Friday (tonight), then Tuesday are greener nights for me.
I read that if you can hit 90%, you get £3.50 worth.
I don’t need to charge every day, so as long as I’m not going to see family. I should be able to just charge on those nights.
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This morning, Octopus had my meter reading data for the 4th, the day I switched.
So called them up & they moved me straight onto IOG. Set up the Ohme Pro as a device, it’s now showing IOG as the tariff, and the dynamic charging & price cap are disabled.
I did notice in the Octopus app, when you click on the ohme under devices, there is an option to disable smart charging. I might just have to try that out.
Will do a smart charge tonight, back up to 90% as it’s a greener night tonight. Currently down to 56%.
The Switch couldn’t have been any smoother.
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I have one, but I’ve never used it. I just use Electroverse. Even if you’re not an Octopus Energy customer, as it often offers some discounts. I used it last Weekend, 3 times. One charge, I got 15% off at Source EV. You don’t get that on The Motability Go. The other 2, I could have used Go and would have got the same price. The Go Card and app are powered by Electroverse, which is better than the previous app MB had.
The other thing is that sometimes, a CPO’s own app at certain times can be cheaper. Take Instavolt for instance, after 8 pm it’s 60p via their app or own RFID card, but still the full 89p if you use any other method of payment.
Then if you’re doing enough miles away from home in a month, or cannot charge at home. A month’s subscription is good, but then you are limited to using that CPO.
This Monday, I switched to Octopus for energy. Today I joined their smart EV tariff IOG. So I’ll get 8% discount. 5% if you opt for the standard go tariff.
The electroverse app and maps, etc, also just work better, IMO
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National Grid (Western Power, as I still refer to them) are very good, it worth getting back intouch with them to fit an 80A fuse. Hopefully you will get a different contractor or gang If the three cables are the same size, it could be two neighbours are looped from the main supply in your house. Whils’t its not common, its also not unheard of.
This picture is from before we had the Ev charger installed and had a new smart meter installed, as these ones never ever connected or sent data. One I sent to Ohme for the EV install survey.
The smaller box to the far left and the wire going up is next door’s supply, and it comes back into the top of our cut-off.
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True Kezo. In some circumstances, you can get a charger fitted if your looped. The charger MB fit now is an ohme and that can load balance. So if you like me, and next door is looped to me. I have a 60A cut-out, and the load balancing is set to that. So if ever the load was over the ohme would reduce to half power, or if the CT clamp isn’t working.
I’ve not once hit that. I did look into getting a bigger fuse fitted and de-looping next door to us, and it was agreed, but the sub-contractors didn’t turn up to do the initial survey of works needed.
Maybe our looping is a strange one. Next to my fuse, is another smaller brown box attached to our cutoff, and a wire comes from that goes through the wall to nextdoor then another returns into the top of our cutoff. I’m no expert, all I know is had no issues getting the charger installed.
Now my meter is under the stairs, as is next door, it’s a semi-detached. So there is also. The plan was for them to have the meter moved outside. They agreed to it all. Then another company was taking over the works and their guy came round and said they won’t do the work as they won’t touch next door inside, without even looking at next door. As the consumer unit is also under the stairs inside the house.
Really I need to get back onto National grid who are the DNO, but for now there’s no issue. As it’s an older house, the main wire in he said is much thicker than newer ones. I am considering getting maybe just batteries and not solar panels, as we live in a 3-story townhouse built in the 1920s. Which I can charge overnight when not charging the car, and run most of the daytime energy off those. We average about 7.5kw a day during peak times. Again, I have no real clue as to what or the costs to have it done, obviously as cheaply as possible.
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I’m on octopus intelligent go 7p 11:30-05:30. 29p rest of time. Ohme home pro. Audi Q4. The smart charger previously had my EDF smart tariff on its data base. Not so with Octopus. I set the charger manually to only charge 11:30-05:30. It works for me.
If you don’t mind, how do you do that?
As I’m soon joining IOG, and as far as I know, one needs to onboard within 7 days. My car is not compatible, but the Ohme Home Pro is. So as far as I can understand you in the Octopus app set up the Ohme as a device. It did say that if you don’t onboard within 7 days, you’ll be moved to the 8.5 go fixed tariff. I’m used to just setting my hours/ max % soc in the car. So, just charging within the cheap hours and would prefer to do the same. If possible.
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Doing plenty of research in readiness for an EV. Currently with Eon on a “regular” fixed rate but with 1st choice car (Enyaq) + Ohme charger I’m eligible for their drive smart tariff at 6.5p off peak & 32p peak. Rough, educated calculations I’m looking at around £115/month bill. They also have a non smart tariff where off peak is 7.5p and using same figures for estimate the monthly electricity would be around £125. But, I’m coming across loads of problems people have with smart tariffs, ranging from won’t charge, not getting off peak rates, having to go in 1 app to stop charge so smart tariff can do it’s thing. Currently pay £100/month so looking at cost of running an EV between £15 & £25 (both way cheaper than what I currently spent on petrol so I’m wondering if the extra £10 less is worth the hassle. The impression I get is issues arise due to multiple charging apps for car, charger & electric supplier. Issues don’t seem to be just Eon as seen similar problems with Octopus IOG. How are people here finding things?
I’ve just moved from Eon to Octopus. My car is not compatible with the smart tariff. The charger is with octopus. I was paying 6.7p and 23.95p on V5, but on V12 it was increasing to 7.p and over 32p. Now, today they’ve brought out V13 at 30p. Too late.. But the standing charge is 60p. Plus, it’s now only 6 hours and was 7 hours.
It was good over the last year. My bills didn’t really rise from charging an EV. I did like the simple non-smart tariff. But I’ll give the smart one a go, because it’s cheaper and the day rate also matters to us.
I always put the dishwasher on the odd clothes wash on at night and use electric oil heaters if it’s really cold at night. That’s hard to calculate, but it will reduce your bills more than you think. As all energy used during off-peak is at a lower rate during fixed hours. On a smart tariff, if they give you slots outside the off peak you also get the house usage at the lower rate. Although changes are happening as some have been gaining the system. charging at half the volts to get more slots. They’re stopping that soon and so will EON. the difference with eon smart tariff is that you can only use their app and connect to the car.
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From memory my electric went over the day before the gas did, but all went smoothly. In your in home display (IHD), you can read the meter units, I would take a quick photo of both elec and gas readings before you go to bed tonight. This will safeguard you incase EON play funny buggers, as EDF did to me when moving to Octopus. On Octopus there are time you get a block of 1 or 2hrs free electricity and you get paid for what you use above what you normally use during that period, so I put the car on charge and wear the kettle out etc You have to opt in on the app, but its straight forward enough. At other times, there an option to opt into saving sesions (save energy) and you get what they call Octoplus points for every kWh you save. They have an Octoplus shop, where you can exchange the points collected over time for Octopus branded clothing or Octopus plush toys (ideal if you have young kids in the family) Once a month around bill date, you can spin a wheel and get extra points. Mrs kezo loves it
Thx Kezo, all switched over last night. My IHD is even now showing I’m with octopus, and the rates for both are now the new ones.
I just have to wait now for them to get the 30 min readings from the electric meter. to move on to IOG or just go Did call them. Wow, someone answered straight away. EON cannot play anything, as they know what the readings are from the 30 min readings. I did provide the gas reading last night. The good thing is, as my new tariff with EON was supposed to start today, but the switch happened, so that’s better for me.
When I was on the phone earlier, as I could not give them the electric meter readings online. ( Maybe because it was on a TOU) I emailed them the pics. We moved the gas onto the fixed tariff. Plus, there are no fees to exit. So if the gas drops in April. I can move on to that.
Our gas meter is outside, but the electricity is inside, under the stairs. Had no issues with the signal. But I did open the door this morning to maybe let more signal out. My ohme was offline last night, but when I woke, I looked, and it was back online. Didn’t turn the breaker off or anything. So I don’t know if that was because of the meter update or the 4G signal in the area, or even ohmes servers.
I will sign up to Octoplus, be silly not to. I did the spins on both supplies, he he. As usual. I win zip. Gas was available just after midnight, and electricity this morning.
I charged the car up to 100% on the morning of the 3rd, and currently it’s on 92%. 3 days & I’ve had the car a year, battery health is on 99.5%. Luckily, currently, I’m not affected by the battery recall. So think I’ll be ok for at least a week. Got only one trip to Nottingham planned this week. Next week, however, 2 trips to Sheffield. I’ll add them to the car’s maps later today, and it will tell me how much I’ll likely use. Should be Ok though.
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On some cars, you can adjust the amount of light needed before the Auto lights come on. On some, you cannot. Some cars don’t have auto lights, or the drivers have turned them off on the stalk, without realising.
The headlight Symbol on the display or HUD is universal. So one should know. I got specific Varifocals for driving, as my issue is that I can see the road and read number plates, but sometimes not the symbols on the car’s display or HUD. Like the new speed limit or read warnings that pop up. Which is worse on My ex30 as it has only the display. I guess there’s a multitude of reasons why. I had to put my fog lights on the other day, and that’s via the display. Two clicks to bring up the option to turn them on. Not really the issue many make out it is. You need to click twice to play the radio.
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Octopus are pretty good when it comes to switching. Once your with them and everything working, its straight forward to move over to IOG. I moved to standard Go with a Smets 1 meter, as unlike other companies, Octopus said they could get reading from DCC. I don’t have a suitable charger for IOG but, only have a PHEV anyway. Thx
They’ve now got my meter numbers, and on my account page, it now says that they’ll be my official energy supplier from Wednesday 4th of February. The gas only has 3 ticks. So all seems to be going well.
I have never read the new meters since installed, over a year ago. Guess I might have to. The 4th is brilliant as that’s when my EON V5 ends and the rip off V12 Starts. Only the Ohme is compatible with IOG. I’ll give it a try 1st. Maybe I’ll just charge more often than I do. Plus, it will likely be different to the way I have been charging. With dynamic charging off. I’ve joined a Facebook group for ohme/octopus. So that should help.
Had an email form Eon.
We see you’re leaving. Is there any reason why? I did reply.
Every single cost element of the newer EV tariff is high and has changed, 6 hours, not the 7 hours I have been getting, and now 7.5p, not 6.7p. The peak rate is the highest on the market at 32.59p with a SC of 60p.
Before I’d recommend eon but now that’s impossible to do.
They offer a new smart tariff, but it only connects to the car, not to a charger, IMO that’s a big mistake. If the car’s not compatible. Which mine isn’t. Which makes Octopus better now for me as the ohme is compatible. I’ve never paired my car to the Ohme either.
Last weekend, I used the Electroverse app & card to do just over a 400-mile round trip. It cost just under £45, So I look forward to the 8% discount also, IOG will add.
You do get A zoom EV sub from Eon for a year. Which I got 25 Kwh free from Osprey, and recently a year’s subscription to BP Pulse, but I have not used that once, yet.
When I’ve needed a boost, those nearest have only been 50kw units. So used an Instavolt after 8 pm via their app, which was actually cheaper. That was in the summer when we were away in north Lincolnshire for a week, then went straight down to the rural Essex coast for the weekend. As my daughter wanted to see Hamilton for her birthday. Used mainly Telsa OTA with a monthly subscription for that long trip. Was almost 1000 miles.
I’ve bypassed the PHEV, just went straight BEV from a mild hybrid. The occasional longer trip isn’t so bad at all.
Appreciate the chat/help as always.
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@kezo Do you have an Octopus referral code, seeing as you’re so active & helpful on this forum? I’d like to reward you…
Here you go mate thanks https://share.octopus.energy/sweet-moose-214
Thx, just switched, hopefully it all goes smoothly. Charging the car to 90% tonight, and I’ll charge it every night until I’m actually with the octopus. Then hopefully it’s not too long till I can move onto IOG.
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@kezo Do you have an Octopus referral code, seeing as you’re so active & helpful on this forum? I’d like to reward you…
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Recently looked at EON and thought you got 6 hours? Currently with Octopus non intelligent go and my main gripe is the day rate is not fixed, compared to Eon who from memory offer a fixed day rate.
You do now get 6 hrs on Eon next drive. The 5 hrs is many all other EV tariffs like Go. They are only 5 hours.
Currently till the 4th of Feb, I have 7 hours. I can add about 10% an hour. Sometimes 50% won’t cut it. Especially after I go visit family on Sunday, I returned home with 5% charged up to 73% overnight, and it was a cold one. 63% I could live with, just in case I have Something on the next day.
With the 5 hr Go tariff you can fix for 12 months or be on a variable same as IOG. Although the standing charges and peak rates differ slightly. whereas on IOG only the peak rate differs, and the 8.5p on go for 5 hours is not ideal for me, 7p is better.
Go Fixed
Go Variable
Eon’s ev tariff also doesn’t have any exit fees, not sure about Octopus. Eon do have a newer smart tariff, but my car isn’t compatible.
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Currently, with Eon. My Ev tariff is ending soon, has been great. I set the schedule 00.00 to 7 am in the car and the max % soc required usual 90%, and have only charged within those hours for almost a year now. It works flawlessly for me.
The newest tariff is now only 6 hours, not 7, which isn’t the issue. I can handle that, but not a drop to 5 hrs that could be. The EV price has risen, and the peak price/standing charge is now one of the highest around.
So I have been looking into switching.
Seems IOG on the variable rate might be a short-term solution. As I feel, sometimes fixing is better done in the summer. The fixed price is currently 30.07p / kWh. We are at home during the day. So that price really matters a lot. My wife works from home, and we are now Home schooling our daughter.
I have a few questions. Hopefully, some already on IOG can answer them.
My ex30 is not compatible, but the Ohme Home Pro is. For the last year, I have charged with dynamic charging turned off and everything controlled by the car. Can I do the same on IOG and only charge from 11.30 pm to 5.30 am?
Also, I have never paired my ex30 to the Ohme. Hopefully, I never have to.
I know they’re getting tougher on the 6 hours, and more info will be released soon.
Charging overnight works for me, as the car restricts access somewhat if parked where I do charge it during the day.
I do not need to gain the system and charge outside of the 6 hours at night. Will that be possible, and if it is, how?
Will I be able to have dynamic charging disabled? As I do now. Control it via the car. If I only ever charge during the 6 defined hours at night.
The other thing is, what can I do with the gas? I don’t want to split them, that is too much headache, and as you’ll join on the Flexible Octopus tariff. Then, once the meter data is received. You can then move on to IOG. Can you move the gas onto a different, cheaper octopus tariff?
Eon installed new smart meters last year, before I got my Ev, but I had the charger already installed and both have sent data for over a year. So I don’t see them being an issue. How long will it likely be before I get onto IOG after being switched over, and how long does that take? Should I wait until the 3rd to start the switch, or do it ASAP?
Thx In advance for the help.
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I find that when I put a destination into the built-in Google Maps, that then is very reliable on the range. Or the % I will arrive at the destination with. If I don’t, it’s just guessing on my previous driving.
I get that not all cars don’t have Google Automotive, but it’s really a game-changer. In the cold weather, from my Mild hybrid, I was getting a max of 24 mpg. So its range was hugely reduced for my everyday usage, and so were the costs. I’m not really seeing those costs rise so much with the EV.
I also don’t use mains power to precondition much, as it costs more than using the traction battery, which was charged overnight at a cheaper rate. In February, that difference will increase by another 6p as my peak rate rises. So it will cost 4 times as much as using the car’s traction battery. Certainly, if I’m making a longer journey, then it’s slightly worth it. But day to day no…
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Before people dismiss something, maybe they should try one. Not just believe everything you’re sold by MSM and Macmaster & others, making a nice living from the Traffic. Yet he’s right in his latest video in the fact that everything is divide and conquer, as divided we are weaker and easier to socially engineer.
The reason certain cars are being pulled is due to EU regulations on emissions. Beforehand, they were all making smaller cars to meet those targets, which has stopped. As the levels allowed have decreased as other options have been created, BEVs. Even Aston Martin made the Cygnet at one point.
So now they are making and selling bigger, & more expensive ice cars as they make them more money selling them % percentage-wise. Thus, culling larger-engine, smaller cars and only offering them with an engine that complies, i.e the 1.0 litre or even smaller, for now.
Then, offsetting the figures with BEVs. Which are, for the purposes of the EU regs, counted as zero emissions. So they don’t receive fines. Some can also buy other companies’ surplus allowance, but that model is not sustainable. Just a temporary fix.
The UK government is doing something on top of that, as they are losing out on that revenue. which is causing a huge issue in the market in the UK, which is another reason 2nd-hand EV values are also an issue.
Each year, they need to sell more EVs than the previous year and can get fined £15k a car, I believe. So they cannot sell ICE cars to people who want them. So many are offering huge discounts on new BEV cars. So why would you buy used if you can buy new? Also then as the amount of Ice cars able to be sold reduces, demand for those cars increases, and prices rise, and some just cannot get one. It will be worse this year & the next. So many have to wait or just buy used, so again, creating more demand in that segment. This is according to the CEO of the Vertu Group. The market is broken in the UK. The whole UK is broken, and not because we left the EU. It’s all by design. The technology is coming, and the 4th industrial revolution is rolling out. By 2050, most won’t be driving cars; they’ll not be able to afford to, once everything is linked to CPI.
After all, we are in the European market. So aside from the RH drive, manufacturers aren’t going to make cars just for the UK market. Hence, adas on all new cars. But those regs are still in place and have been even before the Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Mandate was introduced. So not much will change in many respects. It’s all in place just to make you pay more. Like the sugar tax. which also reduces choice, as companies just stop selling sugar products and sell those with alternatives that the tax doesn’t apply to. So we pay less, but they make more.
They’ve made chocolate bars so small, you cannot make them smaller. So they are now reducing the amount of content. So it cannot be called chocolate anymore. The reason I mention this, is that it’s how they control our behaviours by controlling the profits of companies and sectors and making them comply. Cars are no different. All they really care about is making you pay more to them and having net zero left.
Just how they are now making some disabled drivers pay more to have some sort of quality of life, and actually also discriminating against them as they have a different type of disability than others in the process. Yet all get the higher rate of the mobility component. Surely this is against the Equality Act.
Those making these decisions are not disabled and do not know the issues we all face daily.
I got my 1st Ev in February, almost a year now. Odds are I’ll get another, but it depends on AP, and I need something no longer than 4.3m to fit on my front to charge. Just did another 300-mile round trip yesterday, and at the end of the month. We’ll be doing another that’s more like 500 miles. and it was no issue. It actually cost me less than £25 to do that trip. I spent no longer than 20 minutes charging.
I like the R5, but I won’t get one because it only charges up to 100 kW; my current car charges up to 158 kW. So 1/3 less time spent charging on the longer trips, never mind the bigger battery. Then the price. My current car was £1999 when I got it. although I paid £1249. Then increased to £5499, now it’s down to £4499 this 1/4.
The amount I’m saving by having a BEV helps me, even with the 3p tax. The £210 I’d have to pay to cover 7k miles a year adds £17.50 per month, add that to the £11.51 a month home charging costs for the last 11 months.
Is still a lot cheaper doing the short trips I generally do in an ice. So works for me. Considering in my mild hybrid in winter, I was getting 24 mpg max. Driving locally. I’d be pretty reluctant to go back to that. I don’t do too many longer trips, and that’s not really an issue. Never mind preconditioning and keeping the car cool on a hot day while, say, having lunch or visiting an appointment.
People happy the pay per mile is coming in, are deluded. As soon enough it will be put on ice also, to discourage their usage. The car driver is a cash cow for HM Treasury. So we’ll all end up paying more until we cannot afford to anymore.
I don’t care what people drive and believe in freedom of choice, but they just don’t believe in that freedom anymore. MBO didn’t fight at all for the rights of the scheme users, and guess what? Big pay rise for the CEO. The disabled shouldn’t be allowed convertibles either, what’s next, panoramic roofs? A comfortable seat or car suitable for your condition. Yet we are arguing over which mode that propels a car is better or not than another. It’s all part of the plan. The trouble with EVs is also the technology is moving pretty fast, which makes older tech obsolete and worthless or useless, like your old tablet that no app is compatible with it for anymore. Again, it’s by design, so you’re forced to buy a new one. at some point.
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No, mine was sitting at Volvo for virtually a month waiting for a part and lost hardly any charge.
The other thing to consider is that it’s not recommended to leave it sitting fully charged or with a very low battery. It depends on the actual EV as well as to what they recommend to charge it to for daily driving.
Also, have a look at ev.database.org/uk for real-world ranges.
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I have had a nextbase connected to my obd port on my ex30 for 6 months now, with no issues. I need the parking mode active as had a car crash into mein when it was parked and that was off the scheme.
So need the security just plugging in the 12v doesn’t give. I remember on the golf I had back in 2017 vw gave me a odb doggle. That you paired your phone to. I forget now exactly what it did but it was permanently transmitting and didn’t cause any issues. The 622gw I have now only has a tiny internal battery and it replaced a 22x. I have got it as it has the rear camera mounted to the actual dash cam. so stops the need for running the wiring for the rear camera. also the ex30 only has 12v in the boot and if you have stuff in the boot, well its going to get bashed a lot
So really the obd port was the only viable option. plus it has the low voltage cut off.
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Cars can come on and off the list anytime. It’s just the AP’s that change quarterly. In my experience cars I’ve been looking at but couldn’t order, always went up and never down. There is always winners and losers.
Why not try and bag a bargain there is often some dealers offering discounts on AP’s some are often listed on here and or on a Facebook group MOTABILITY SPECIAL OFFERS where dealers list offers. Peugeot Barnsley have some even available now. I know some who have travelled to them and even they have paid for a hotel for the night if you travel pretty far. Or on the motaclarity site. Might have deals closer to you. The are limited though not like years ago. When you could extend your lease and wait for a good deal to arrive. So in your position, it almost like your a new customer again and could be in a new car in 4 days, rather than a hire car that might not be ideal for 3 months. Ie if it not an ev.
As for having to order, I guess its the same as if your car is written off. You need to place an order to remain on the scheme one the car is handed back. Technically your no longer a MB customer. So a hire car for 3 months or till any new car arrives is imo pretty good.
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I just got a nextbase 622gw. From Halfords and they fitted it. Power by the OBD port so it has constant power when parked. So parking mode is always active.
I had the same issue, my old cam was in 12v socket and during school holidays. I didn’t drive it for a few days and the battery depleted on the cam and someone crashed into the car and drove off.
The lead also has a low voltage cut-off so if 12v battery level drops in will stop powering the cam. So far I’ve had no issues with it at all. even when the cars parked for a good few days.
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All drivers even those over 30 also need a smart phone and to download the app and connect it to the car. Then Mb via a 3rd party will monitor and track all via there own personal devices registered.
Is this a case of monitoring under 30’s and the cars usage and all driver due to maybe higher volumes of misuse of those cars by those driven by under 30’s. As it seems like they’ll be tracking everyone named as a driver 24/7 via the app on your smart phone. what if the claimant doesn’t drive.
So Imo they could potentially flag any misuse or so they think. Even when they put trackers in some cars they are not always active, for obvious privacy reasons and your right to privacy. But with this tracking you via your own private device, even when not in the vehicle, surely is against your human rights.
I certainly see issues with this. where actual carers refuse to the terms and won’t drive the scheme car. Thus making the actual non driving claimants, life harder on the scheme. As I know I wouldn’t agree to those terms. I know if they extend this to all cars. that will be it for me.. It’s the principle. I’m the only driver anyway.
The thing is it won’t stop jack. As Say one was to misuse the car, you could just take the claimants phone with you and they could just get another phone. Or leave there phone at home and use a different phone. How will MB know. As for the bonus you can get for a good score. Why are MB not rewarding those who never make a claim and never had an accident. We could all do with £160 towards the next ap.
With adas on all new cars and false positives, like sudden emergency braking by the car. Will it know the difference or when using adaptive cruise control and car in front brakes hard and so does yours as it mimics the car in front will you gain a demerit or not. when on motorway and car in front pulls over and your car floors it back to the set speed of 70mph will you also be flagged. Will it know if you run a red light or drive when someone is crossing a zebra.
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It depends on so many variables.
Mainly what’s local to you and the cost per kwh. Then the max charging speeds of the car, suitable for your needs, etc and how you will adapt around charging.
There are 2 types AC and DC. AC is slower but my car can handle up to 22kw.So in theory I can fill my whole 64kwh battery in 3 hrs, using a 22kw charger, But how often do I stop somewhere for 3 hrs.
So I’d use 22 kw’s if the price was reasonable just to top up, like while we eat something or are shopping etc, charging often and just adding a little, amount of charge.
Then DC which is much faster. If you have a Tesla or Ionity not far away, that would be my go to for a full charge, well to 80% as after the speed slows down a lot. It also depends on your actual regular mileage and the range of the EV you select as to how often you’ll need to charge. The longest I’ve actually public charged for on 150+ kwh units is 19mins.
My car is capable of a max speed of 158kw. So I don’t use DC chargers under 150kw, as using lower rated ones will just waste my time. So I generally filter out all those under 150kw, same as I also filter out 7kw and 11 kw from my searches for AC chargers. Which sometimes can be cheaper then using the faster ones, but like I said take longer to charge. My usage varies a lot. Some months I charge only once a week and others 3 times a week. If I didn’t have a home charger, I’d charge to 80% using Tesla and then likely charge up when I can on 22 kwh units that not that expensive as to charge 80% to 100% on DC takes as long as 10% to 80%(30min) so from 10% to 100% would take an hour.
I have 150kw/180kw chargers at the bottom of my street virtually in Aldi but I wouldn’t use them as they just to expensive, 79p via shells own app, 89p via zap pay and electroverse. So its always worth check which option of payment is the cheapest. Instavolt after 8pm via there app is 54p, so I’d only use them after 8pm.
Certainly charging off peak can be cheaper, with some CPO. Ionity do a flat flat with top subscription at 43p a kwh. Bonus to Ionity is many are 800v not 400v. So charging times can be 50% less, 15mins over 30mins.
All EVs are not equal. Some only charge at 100kw and have 50kw batteries and I’d say they are not ideal for those without a home charger. Unless you do very low mileage. You’ll be charging more and for longer each time. Especially when doing a longer journey.
Also you get less miles in winter than in summer from the same charge. Let’s say most ev’s will achieve 3 mile per kwh so 50kwh / 150 miles unless your doing 70mph on the motorway, then you might get less.
My car has a 64 kwh usable battery so can achieve 192 miles. 77kwh / 231 miles.
So depending on you mileage you’ll only really use 70% of the battery most of the time. So if you only want to charge once a week, from the 77kwh battery you’d be able to do 161.7 miles a week from the 70% soc.
So that’s an important thing to consider. From a 50 kwh only 105 miles. http://evdatabase.org/uk is a great source for real world ranges and data on cars.
You will get a free BP pulse subscription, which takes the price to a max of 63p a kwh, but again it’s no real use if ones not local or is slower than your max speed, some are only 50kw and that’s 3 time slower than a 150kw charger.
So these are the things I would look at to see if without a home charger it’s viable for you now.
You could try and get on a pavement channel / gully or other trial in you local area and that might then allow you to home charge.
It can be done, but it needs a Little research and planning and maybe even a change of your route and mindset to just filling with fuel and is certainly different.
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i spent an hour or two in the chesterfield hyndai mainly for the kona but i had to try the 6 and it wasnt 2 bad the good thing is huge doors that open very wide and the seats automatically move backwards for you to get in and then move to your saved driving position. so it wasn’t too uncomfortable getting in and out. the seats themselves very comfortable. the thing is if my condition gets worse i will be in a wheelchair so a lower car will be better. the only drawback with the 6 is i cant charge at home, but my mileage will halve after next week unless you know any one who needs a 66 year old bookkeeper. so i reckon once a month at dobbies for an 80% charge will suffice, free coffee and bacon bap plus whatever i spend in the garden centre and cotton traders so could be an expensive refuel lol.
Arnold clark do charging now also 55p a kwh. You book via their app. Instavolt after 8pm is 54p a kwh via the app. There is a tesla open to all at east midlands designer outlet after 8pm till 00.00 only 38p and 00.00 to 8am 32p that’s without the monthly subscription.
I got my ex30 from chesterfield as my local one closed a few years ago now. wasn’t sure if id get the charger installed but luckily I did, but I’d drive to tesla there from me, once a week if needed. As they just so much cheaper than other CPO off peak. plus you do get a bp pulse subscription from MB and they about 63p but in chesterfield fastest is only 50kw and that’s too slow, Arnold Clark are 150kw so in theory you charge 3 times as quick and cheaper.
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Dedicated EVs can be misleading in that regard, due to the battery pack being in the floor. Meaning the seats are higher than you’d expect in a low slung car. Of course it’s not going to be the same seating position as in a VW Touareg or something, but it’s not as low as you might think.
On the ex30 I have the floor is raised, which is strange at 1st as there’s no real drop down from the lower door sills to put your feet in and its a dedicated ev. The mach e was kind of the same if I remember and both the height of the door and roof is lower than all cars I’ve had before. The scenic was the worst for that, everytime I tried to get in a bashed my head of the door opening. Certainly though I’d not discount any car that ticked my boxes till I’d sat in it and had a good look at the boot etc and lastly had a test drive.
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