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Good to know about the MOT. My local Volvo dealership closed quite a while ago. But still had a service centre very local to me. They closed their doors at the beginning of February and are now subject to a winding up order. So now the nearest dealer is 15 or 20 miles away. So I guess for MOT when it’s due in 2028 I’ll ask to have it done at KF.
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Oh, so now the wait begins. Volvo have confirmed today a new camera unit is needed to repair the adas system. Now its almost 2 months Since Autoglass broke it and who knows how long it will be now. As the part is not available from Sweden, hasn’t been since beginning of April and there is no date as to when. So I guess it’s good that I stuck to my guns as they say and held out for an EV that was an SUV.
I did call VIA the company that deal with the kerb gully’s for the council, as I had a few question on the costs, which are not listed, but not had a call back as they said they would do. I cannot enter into an agreement without knowing the costs. Once the 2 year guarantee period is over and the 7 years of us being liable starts.
So I went and bought a D-line from screwfix, used it the other night and had no issues, It has such a really low profile. So is probably the best one on the market. Plus I only ever charge overnight and my parking spot is right next to a lamppost with new led lights.
I also bought a padlock to lock it to the cable. As there has been a few occasions when my house camera has picked up hooded masked individuals trying car doors on the street a good few times now and next door had his van targeted only the other night.
Crazy how something as simple as replacing a windscreen can become the huge drawn out issue, that it has become and still has no end date in sight.
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When you get your quote from a comparison site, you still need to go to the insurance company’s site and fill in the details again, or check that they are correct. Regarding the NCD. Often, there is another box asking how you acquired this, and Motability is often an option you can select.
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Just an update today the hire car arrived from enterprise a 73 plate Ford Mustang Mach-E ER RWD. With a 91kwh usable battery. It took a few weeks to sort it out. My EX30 isn’t going to the dealers until the 28th and I have since found out the part that’s likely needed to fix the ADAS. Has been on back order since the beginning of April with no actual date as to when, So I guess it doesn’t matter now how long my ex30 will be at Volvo.
The bonus is I have a trip down south planned in a few weeks and it might make it there and back on 100% so the cost could be as little as £6.10 to do the 280 mile round trip. The car is huge compared to the EX30 so it might push me to accept NCC terms for the Kerbo gully installation. So come renewal A bigger car is an option.
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The Ex30 trim is full of recycled plastics, even my seats and trim are made out of old jeans and vegan leather. I quite like that aspect of the car and so far I have no real complaints of the car. That I haven’t had with other cars. I did test drive a Model 3 as I had a spare hour and thought why not. Indicators on the steering wheel are a step to far. The rest though you quickly get used to. Just like on how some cars the buttons on the steering wheel are reversed. So when you want to increase speed on acc you actually increase the music volume.
Yes with all modern cars you can get little niggles and no car is truly perfect. Although one press of the car icon takes you to a shortcut page. Which most of the needed options are quickly accessed or can be changed or for other features not driving related you can use your voice. Like turn on re-defroster.
It is small though and access could be an issue for some as was the case with most BEVs I test drove. At least ones solely created as EVs. As the battery is in the floor so it makes the sills lower to the cars floor and so the roof near the door is also lower. But after a while your muscle memory kicks in and you stop bashing your head getting in.
In 2014 I had a C4 grand Picasso and it had the speedo in the middle of the dash and Virtual everything was done via the infotainment system. But I got used to it. Same with the EX30. I actually really like the lack of buttons. Its a nice place to be in, obviously its the ultra trim and I paid £1249 AP. Would I pay the over 4k AP it is now, No I wouldn’t.
It does have full demist and hazard buttons near the reading lights for if the screen ever crashes. Which the C4 would do on a regular basis and you had to stop and turn the engine off to reboot it. On the golf at least you could reboot with a button and on the EX30 if you press decrease set speed and volume down buttons together it reboots the system. All in all I do think the system works well and you get used to it as you do any car. We all have different needs and requirements and it’s certainly worth getting a decent hour long test drive in any car you look at. which is why the EX30 won for me this time. Again though at it’s current ap it wouldn’t of even got a test drive.
The v60 is a good option if you need a big boot space, which these days I don’t. I need something higher than a car. Although the ap is a tad high for me and it’s a petrol. Now I’ve gone BEV I’m unlikely to go back, as it works for me. Saying that going to physically see and Test driving then all the cars still on your shortlist is so vital.
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We used to have a grand c4 spacetourer and was brilliant although a 7 seater it had 3 full seats in the back. Many now seem to be the bench split seats and the middle space is a big issue for a 3 person or 3 car seats.
Plus also the AP right now are higher than ever before. With an ap less than 1k that limits you. Only thing I know was the citroen berlingo lcv but I don’t think it’s now on the scheme. Just been removed.
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PHEV ain’t really the answer, So the decision is really Ice or BEV. Longer trips ain’t such the issue they used to be. If you adapt. Yes the odds are on those 500 mile journeys you’ll need to charge even if you have the biggest range on the scheme. It will take probably 30 to 45 mins and often make 2 stops as it can be better than one.
Yes it’s different to filling up an ICE.
The night/day (depending on your EV tariff) before you do your longer journey you charge up to 100%. The skoda Enyaq for example has an 82kwh battery but only 77kwh is useable.
So in theory at 6.7p per kwh on eon next drive it will cost around £5.60 to charge with losses.
In winter at -10 doing 70mph you can get 205 mi, in summer at 23 degrees you’ll get 265 mi from 100% according to evdatabase.org/uk. If you do 65mph you’ll get more range..
So then you use super rapid chargers 150kw and above to utilise the 135 kW DC max speed of the Enyaq.
Also as as your doing a few trips a month. A Telsa or Ionity subscriptions, would certainly work for you and reduce the charging costs over using many other CPO. But that also means you need to stop maybe before you need to as there might be no Tesla or Ionity site later enroute and then stop on the way back to put in only enough to get you home. Plus that they actually where you are going.
I often don’t charge at my destination, I stop before and charge to 80% or at least enough to get me back to the Telsa site again on the way back home.
My car the Volvo ex30 even tell me how much I’ll arrive with at each stop on the built in google maps. It certainly helps cure range anxiety and personally the longest I’ve stopped at any one timer so far is 20 mins.
I always put in enough to get me home with 10% and each time I have arrived with 10%
Then it depend on your other driving the rest of the month based on winter combined you’d get 240 miles worst case those are real world figures not wltp and it will cost £5.60. So for most people those low cost subsidise the bigger costs of longer journeys. Only you can work that all out. For me it’s crazy how much a bev is saving me over ice. Charging at home is so cheap and for me it’s no big deal. I quite like the fact I need to stop to charge and give myself a nice rest on those longer trips. Before in an ice I wouldn’t and it’s kind of refreshing. Something I thought I wouldn’t say.
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May 2, 2025 at 7:07 pm in reply to: Help finding recent reply, giving a detailed analysis of EVs from build to end . #305037Some Ev’s now have android automotive and for me is a huge game changer. Which has charging stops built in and how long to charge for and it tells you how much charge you’ll arrive with at every single stop on a journey. I put my return journey in also and it calculates it all and it stayed live for the whole weekend.
I think I’d miss that as much as I’d miss adaptive cruise control.
So really I only use zap maps or ABRP etc, to see what are the best options / cheapest CPO are on my route.
I recently did a 300 mile round trip. Charged the car the night before to 100% selected only tesla (open to all) in the settings. I actually charged on my way down and then on the way home at the same place. Car said 120 miles from home, I ‘d arrive with 10% and I did.
I spent 29mins total charging. 20 mins the 1st time, from 40% to 80% as no tesla ota after on route.
The whole trip cost me just under £26 and no issues or stress about charging. The cables are heavy though on Superchargers, much more than the tethered home charger, I have. But we find away right.
I’m loving the EV.
I ain’t one to get into the finer details of peoples views as why ev’s are not good or bad. Plastic isn’t good but everything has it in it these days. No other mining is bad but Ev mining is… Amazon forest is being felled to build a road for climate summit. So Imo they not exactly leading by example, I personally just wish they’d let people decide, than forcing the issue.
My ex30 actually has lots of recycled materials, Plastic and recycled jeans., Even vegan leather. All cars are made all over the globe. Is an EX30 made in Ghent any better than one made in China or a VW say made in Brazil. New battery recycling companies are appearing as now there is a supply, On a bigger scale than before. So certainly footprints will reduce.
One could go round and round in circle’s and then we’d say all cars are bad, getting a new car every 3 years is bad.
So being informed is great and then you can make your own decision.
It works for me on many levels and I doubt I’ll go back. There will always be an argument against or for anything.
What matters is what works for you best. For me now that’s a BEV after 30 years of driving ice cars. I’m not scared to rip up the rule book and go in a different direction. It is very different to petrol. But if you use a smart phone it’s not a big issues and look how they have developed as have ev’s and they will only improves as technology improves. Just how the ICE engine did.
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April 27, 2025 at 3:53 pm in reply to: Well, that was a shock to the system, I can tell you! #304858If only it could work like that. If someone drives a diesel because they do lots of motorway miles should they be able to refuse a petrol car, or if someone tows a caravan should they be able to insist on a hire vehicle that has a tow bar and is suitable to pull their weight of caravan?
But is that not like for like. I get your point I do, but Say your car was in the garage or faulty for a few months and some have even been in for 6/9 months. With battery or ecu issues and awaiting parts on back order.
On my car the await is for a month just for the dealer look at it.
So the fact you couldn’t use your caravan, if you had one, for that whole period. Which is unacceptable, is it not. If the issue is caused by no fault of your own. That suddenly your whole life is, let’s say different. Due to that one aspect/s and the inconvenience it/they may cause you. Is it not those responsible for the issue/s. Responsibility to inconvenience your life as little as possible.
Petrol or diesel, are not really the same case as the BEV. As one is really based on a moral argument or your beliefs. Which is why many might have an EV. As it produces no tail pipe emissions. As well as the super low running costs, charging at home over an ice. So yes one could say due to excess costs that might cause undue hardship, not otherwise suffered, if a like for like EV was supplied. Which again could be a huge inconvenience on ones life. Like Fluffy is experiencing and the longer that is the situation the more hardship it could cause someone.
I can now be parked outside my kids school, nice and warm or cool in My EV without any fumes coming out. So yeah that should be considered and does make me feel brilliant, about that fact, especially on a very cold morning. That I am not.
Do you really save as much between petrol and diesel nowadays. I know I didn’t when I switched in 2020 back to petrol as I kept getting DPF issues. So if I was given a diesel it’s likely that will happen again.
So would be unsuitable or one would have to drive at X miles at over 50mph, to do a regen or take it to the dealers for them to force one. Creating more emissions and costing more money than necessary.
It can work like that, you just have to enforce your rights as a consumer and if your requests are reasonable then why not. The issue is you have to fight them, for those rights to be adhered to. Which is why I didn’t accept autoglass’s offer of a focus sized car and the concierge team admitted they had supplied EVs in the past to customers who drove one. After all AG terms say A car of there choice (acting reasonably).
Acting reasonably generally means behaving in a way that a typical, prudent person would under similar circumstances, considering all relevant facts and circumstances. It’s a standard applied to actions, decisions, and omissions, and it often involves fairness, practicality, and a good-faith effort to avoid harm or disadvantage.
The Ev might take longer to arrive, but that’s ok. Hire company actually offered me an electric Corsa but it’s too low (as is a focus type car) and the Corsa is slightly to small for our family, especially as we’ll have it for at least over a month and who actually knows after Volvo look at it, what the true time frame is.
Fact is my EX30 is still drivable, but its AG who want me in a hire car, asap. If it wasn’t then the quickest solution would be the offer they made but it’s not suitable for my situation which are reasonable concerns for me to have. So I full expect a like for like car, hopefully with adaptive cruise. Then AG can do as they wish and tow my EX30 to Volvo 30 odd miles away and I guess have it towed back, once fixed.
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Not fit for some but not all. As disabilities differ from person to person and so do attitudes.
Many like myself don’t want assistance but want to be able to do it ourselves, even though it’s not easy. There’s a wheelchair user on YouTube and he highlights some of the issues he faces, in his videos. So I totally get what your saying.
More needs to be done, but then how often can you not find a disabled parking spot. So I tend go shopping later in the evening when there’s no issue finding one. Ev charging bays will be the same and truth be told.
I don’t find it any harder or heavier than using a petrol pump and the tethered home charger is really light and easy to use, over an untethered. Which is where I do most of my charging. Although it is a struggle for me, using rapid chargers. But for some like yourself, You might need to go to bigger hubs, over smaller ones, that offer more services.
One cannot expect every charging site to have assistance on hand, but I do feel that’s where people should help others and solve these issues.
Most cars now from 10% to 80% on superfast chargers take 30 mins or on some even less with 800v. So again that’s not really the issue, it was beforehand.
The model is very different from the petrol one and that has Benefits and negatives and I do feel that’s what people need to understand better. Things have improved and is one reason I decided this time an EV was better for me than a petrol.
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April 27, 2025 at 12:30 pm in reply to: Well, that was a shock to the system, I can tell you! #304850Totally, Companies need to understand that most EV driver have done so, via there own choice and morally many don’t want to drive ICE cars again. Never mind the added cost if you charge at home on EV tariffs and A full charge cost around £5 for the average EV which can get you 180 miles at 70mph or 200/220 say at lower speeds in winter months and more maybe in summer.
So we need to be provided with an EV. Same as Ice drivers they don’t want an EV so shouldn’t be given one over a petrol. That is until we reach a point where no Petrol cars are allowed to be sold or they don’t sell them. then all will be EVs. After all is that not like for like, Which us on the scheme require so why is this the case. Ev’s cost more I would guess, so its cheaper for them to not provide one. Yet it’s there fault often there’s an issue. I have an issue with mine created by Autoglass and it’s a fight but one I have to take on.
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Update.
My cars now booked in with Volvo on the 28/05/25.
Spoke to Mb on 24th and were actually more helpful. Guess as I’d now spoken to Volvo.
They tried to call Autoglass concierge team but was on hold for 20 mins. So gave me the number and they helped, Although it took till Friday and another call to them and explaining it all again to another person to get action from the rectifications teams and get a date.
Luckily that 2nd person has a disabled daughter and a car on the scheme, or I think I’d still be stuck on the merry go round, I was on.
Both people I spoke to where confused as to why the car was unsafe.
On Friday, In my chat with RT team person. he let it slip it was an insurance issue. I pulled him straight up on it. Clearly the liability is with Autoglass and that’s why they don’t want me driving the car not that it’s unsafe. It not him making the decision he’s just the poor guy told to sort this case out and only has limited powers. So hopefully, A solution can be found on Monday and he gets the go ahead, to provide a car like mine. Which is one picked for my disability needs.
Now they working on sorting a suitable hire car that IMO should be an SUV and an BEV and hopefully has adaptive cruise. As I cannot do longer journeys without it and putting myself in more & more pain, than necessary.
Which is why, I have now had 4 cars with adaptive cruise control and won’t get one without it. That alone has made a huge difference to my ability to go anywhere, especially on my worst days or when I get sudden flair up. When I just wouldn’t drive at all. Low speed follow is brilliant and I use it daily, if safe to do so. Not just on longer trips. It’s almost been a month without it and reinforces why I do really need it.
I am the only driver in the household my wife has epilepsy and we’ve got a few longer trips planned and I already cancelled a week away over easter because of no ACC or Pilot as Volvo call it.
So yeah, Just as well I stuck to my guns or I’d be in a lower car, that I cannot get out of and struggle to get into, and I’ll be at least £250 quid out of pocket for having a petrol over an EV a month.
Plus my conscience is clear regarding the environment.
I ain’t been forced to get an EV, so I don’t see why I should be forced to go back to petrol. Companies need to start understanding this and hopefully they just start providing them. Rather than it being a fight to get one. Also the same for those with disabilities. Who need a like for like car for there needs and should be treated differently, because of that and not just be offered a standard car, when it’s Autoglass that have caused this issue.
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Thx, the screen they put in has a Volvo logo. Who knows, the 2nd tech showed me how the camera was moving about. As he hadn’t put the cover back on and seriously expected me to just eat there BS and get a taxi home, so had just left the plastic cover on the drivers seat.
Sounds like genuine windscreen. I still suggest you email Motability CEO and get them involved andrewmiller@motabiltyoperations.co.uk
Indeed, a genuine windscreen.
I’ll give them a chance to resolve the issue fully tomorrow, if not or my cars not booked in with Volvo I will email the higher ups. Thx, appreciate your help.
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The next problem who pays for the broken camera and calibration Motability, their insurance company or Autoglass ?
Autoglass as they broke the camera. That’s the issue. They wanted to put me in a hire car. On the day (that’s just not suitable for my needs) for who knows how long and are trying to say the EX30 is somehow unsafe to drive.
Which is the bigger issue. But there were no cars available. So just as well I didn’t accept their BS that it’s unsafe and leave the car and get a taxi 45 minutes away to home.
After driving the car for 2 weeks without any adas, after their 1st failed attempt and speaking with my nearest Volvo dealership, where I got the car from, about the issue. How is it suddenly unsafe to drive. Its not.
Which Volvo also disputes, but MB are like spk to AG. and don’t seem to care one bit. It felt like they wanted me off the phone and even asked what would I like them to do, in some passive aggressive manner. Yet it’s their car not mine. To then tell me we are not car experts. That’s not what I asked and they just refused to be helpful.
On wed the 16th MB said someone from AG (warranty) would call me before 5pm and I’m still wating. They now also had Thursday, Tuesday and today.
Same with email I sent to other dept, I could have had the car booked in already, but still they haven’t obviously done so.
Which again makes me wonder the motives for trying to get me to accept a hire car in the 1st place.
Now say the cars is unsafe, which it’s not. Why have I been driving it for 2 weeks and the letter sent to me on the 3rd doesn’t state that. Cannot be both.. So why have I been advised to drive an unsafe car for 2 weeks. Again Mb don’t want to engage. Guess I’ll call them again tomorrow also. If no joy I email the ceo.
I guess MB could get Volvo to fix it and then charge Autoglass. I cannot as I do not own the car and cannot authorise Volvo to do any work on the car. So now I’m stuck in this situation which is also not good for my overall health. If it carry’s on I’ll just keep driving the ex30 and suffer when on longer trips with no adaptive cruise, or cancel any I have planned.
Which odds are the hire car won’t have either and I depend on that a lot to reduce the level of pain I suffer, driving far and then are wiped out for days because of it. Also a higher type vehicle as others lower I cannot get in or out of and an EV for moral reasons. That I don’t see as unreasonable at all.
Which is why I will always get a car with adaptive cruise, even when hiring one, If it was Mb or insurance I’d expect a like for like vehicle. Replacement vehicle of our choice (acting reasonably) you’d think that as a disabled driver those would be reasonably expected to be provided, over an able bodied client.
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I think you mistook OEM for aftermarket there. OEM means original equipment manufacturer. In case of the EX30, the OEM is Saint-Gobain Sekurit. The company Volvo buys their glass from (they don’t make their own, obviously) – you guessed it – is also Saint-Gobain Sekurit. Volvo just puts a Volvo sticker in some corner of the glass, increases the price by 30%, and pushes it out the door making sure that you as the customer know to only ever buy the “genuine Volvo part”. At the very best, you could call Volvo a VAR, but that doesn’t make a spare they had zero part in manufacturing in, “genuine”. It’s Saint-Gobain Sekurit glass with a Volvo sticker (where the VAR, or “value added reseller”) comes in. Same for Bosch (or Denso/NGK) sparkilators. They’re not “genuine Volvo parts”, they’re Bosch parts with a Volvo sticker and more expensive. If the mechanic didn’t break the camera, there would be 100% zero issues with OEM glass.
All I know is it has a Volvo logo. So I presume the same that was on the car originally and it was source from Volvo as AG couldn’t get one from anywhere else.
Yep On the ex30 Facebook group others had no issues with re-calibration. The issue was the 1st technician didn’t realise he had broken the camera and tried for almost 2 hrs to do so. Then the 2nd took less that 20mins to decide that was the issue, when I went to them again almost 2 weeks later.
So the car needs now to go to Volvo and it’s on them, but I do not accept it’s now somehow unsafe to drive.
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How the feck did they manage to break the camera, it’s the housing they remove with the camera inside, so technically they don’t touch the actual camera to break it. In my view Autoglass use oem screens, rather than genuine and this can cause no end of issues with ADAS and HUD’s. After 3 attempts, I would demand it go to Volvo directly to be fixed but, Motability are a wet weekend and don’t care, which is shocking given they own the car. Perhaps email MB CEO and explain the situation and how you would like to move forward with it, to get it fixed and if necessary a electric loan car.
Thx, the screen they put in has a Volvo logo. Who knows, the 2nd tech showed me how the camera was moving about. As he hadn’t put the cover back on and seriously expected me to just eat there BS and get a taxi home, so had just left the plastic cover on the drivers seat.
Still nothing from AG since my email. Did have another call from Hire company today, but I was snoozing as in a lot of pain and didn’t sleep much last night. didn’t leave a message or call back so odds are it’s to see if I changed my mind. As they likely going to get over a months hire car money.
The fact is the car needs to go to Volvo. The big issue is Autoglass trying to say the car is unsafe to drive, when it is clearly not and nothing in writing from them. So they want it shipped to Volvo and left there for who knows how long.
I will try contact them again tomorrow and offer my solutions and also contact MB again to9 inform them it’s a week now since I was told by them I would be contacted by AG by 5pm.
3 weeks now of driving the car with no issues, accept for no adas or related aids are working.
Mb don’t care as they are not car experts and I now question if AG actually are. Volvo say its safe to drive. Some drivers of cars with adas will know the issues you can have when it works. I have non of those issues now. They all deactivated and cannot be activated for safety reasons, so the cars doesn’t malfunctions and operates like a normal car.
Another week has passed and the car is still not booked in with Volvo by me or AG
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The question is do you need really need a 500 mile range if you can charge in 5 mins. I say not really.
So in theory if 2 cars can charge in 30mins at 400v or at 800v 4 cars using 2 chargers. Then with 2 mega chargers 6 cars can charge in the same period of time. That is progress in the right direction and I’d rather see that, than bigger and heavier batteries. Although batteries also are getting lighter but still the same applies. At some point its just not practical for most and then their is the cost.
With 6 cars charging in the same time the company has the potential of making more revenue in the same amount of time. So is a win win.
Smaller batteries are lighter and more efficient than most ev’s with a bigger batteries, that are less efficient compared to smaller battery because of the added weight If you don’t require the range all the time, like most people don’t smaller batteries with faster charging times is better for all, and better for resources to.
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@eltel yes the juke doess around high forties going to work at 7.45 but well over 50 coming home at 13.00hrs.. yesterday 50.01 compared to 62.3. definately does better with the sun on its back
If only my daily journeys were longer, but they not anymore and when cold, I was getting no more than 24 mpg. In summer more mid to low 30’s it is rather hilly near me with lots of stop start and sitting at forever traffic lights.
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I had a 48v mild hybrid but when cold and doing mainly very short journeys the hybrid system just didn’t work for most of the journey as they don’t work till the cars warmed up enough.
I had a full hybrid on loan for over a month and it could drive in EV mode alone, but again in the morning it used the Ice virtually until we was almost back home again. Later in the day much better but still for me a BEV was the way to go, as I do many shortish trips of only a few miles.
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April 1, 2025 at 2:01 pm in reply to: What’s best price anyone pays away from home to charge EV #300451Do any public chargers offer cheap night time charging?
Yes some do, Instavolt via there app is now only 54p from 8pm till 7am and my local Tesla ota from 00.00 to 4am is £0.29/kwh without a sub or £0.22 with one. Not all are that cheap though. Osprey if you use electroverse 7 pm till 11 pm you get 20% off. Sure there others but they ones I have noticed.
Ionity will the top sub is only 43p anytime
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April 1, 2025 at 12:14 pm in reply to: What’s best price anyone pays away from home to charge EV #300432it takes around 3 hours to charge with a fast charger so have to get a lift to the nearest one that’s not full of DPD vans and leave it there, It’s CHAdeMO so options are limited. It’s the best worst car we ever had lol
50kw DC max speed for me is just not viable, even though I can charge at home.
My car has a 64kwh useable an a max speed of 158kw although you only get the max for a little window and it drops off, the fuller the battery gets. So I see no point charging past 80% on rapid chargers.
I’ve not actual arrived at a public charger yet under 30%. So the most I’ve seen it hit is 133kw and the longest I’ve stopped at any one charger is 20mins. 3hrs is crazy. I guess if I used 22kw AC, it would take that long to charge the full 64kw battery but that would be at a destination.
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April 1, 2025 at 11:04 am in reply to: What’s best price anyone pays away from home to charge EV #300418Got my EX30 on the 7th of Feb, I’ve just done over 1000 miles in it now. Driving exactly how I would an ice car. I have used 326 kwh home charging at 6.7p so far, and its cost me £22.16.
My average is 32.3 kwh/100mi. So just over 3 miles per kwh. I also precondition, when needed using the cars traction battery as it’s the cheapest option. So all in all, potentially in the worst case scenario, as I got my car in winter, 978 miles for £22.16.
Lets say £11.18 a month to do almost 500 miles, multiply by 36 over the term of the lease and it costs £402.48 for 18,000 miles. I’ll get better when its warmer but lets base it on the worst case, in winter.
I just did a trip to North London, down the M1 via my brothers in Hemel and then back home. Mostly on the motorway with the pilot set at 70mph occasionally up to 75mph. I left with 100% SOC.
I stopped at Tesla ota twice at Luton both at peak time the price was 56p a kwh, for a total of 29 mins and added 25.3680 kwh (up to 80%) on the way down and it took 20 mins, as I arrived with around 40%.
Then on the way back I added another 13.4250kwh at 56p to get me home with 10% SOC and it was 112 miles home from there.
My car has a 64kwh useable battery so 10% is 6.4kwh. So 56.6kwh x 6.7p kwh is £3.7922. Two charging stops cost £14.20 & £7.51, so the whole trip cost me £25.50. Total distance over whole trip was 292 miles, so 8.7p a mile.
Total cost away from home was £21.71, as the other is included in home charging costs. If I used tesla off peak it would be cheaper or used a subscription.
I prefer to charge before arrival, so I arrive with as much as possible, but on other trips, I may use Ionity with a subscription it depends which is the most cost effective and on route.
I get this always isn’t possible, but I used to live in Bangor, so I’d personally stop at flint charge up to 80% and charge enough to get me back there locally for my return, if needed.
I also get not everyone can and not all chargers are as assessable as others for scheme users with different conditions, certainly the Luton superchargers might be an issue for some.
Now say I do that trip say 6 times a year it will cost me £130.26 in away from home charging costs, so over the full lease £390.78 + £402.48 (home charging) that’s £793.26 over 3 years on fuel.
I know it did cost about £60 a tank to fill up my Vitara even once a month is £720 a year.
So I’d say I was paying that at least a year with the Ice Mild hybrid, I had before the BEV.
So it works for me over the whole lease not just one journey, which is exactly how I look at it.
Plus now as charging at home is so cheap, I can afford to go out more, within the range of the car.
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Guess we got the EU to thank for all this and as we are in Europe, it makes no sense to build cars without it all for the UK market.
At least we don’t have alcohol interlock installation facilitation is mandatory for new vehicles (from 2024) and new vehicle types (from 2022) to enhance road safety by preventing driving with excessive alcohol. These devices require drivers to blow into an in-car Breathalyzer before starting the ignition, every time you stop for 15mins I believe. I don’t drink as my meds say not to and I do get it can be an issue, but seriously over kill, like all the other beeps bongs and monitoring systems. Plus they ok when working but what when they faulty. Each car is different. I am used to them and us pilot or adaptive cruise a lot and it does have bonuses, like adapt to speed limit and keeping you in lane on longer journeys, but still if the road is straight for to long. Please hold the steering wheel and then there’s bad weather and how will driverless cars cope with that, they won’t. They are aids but now they’re on as default they can be dangerous in some situations.
Computer’s are only as smart as the code and what they can see via cameras and radar etc and sometimes they get it wrong, sometimes though they work and people think they are faulty but it was their driving that caused it to react.
Personally I have a issue everyday 1 or 2 mins from my house, the car thinks I enter a 20mph zone, when it’s 30mph no signs no school nearby. It only happens one way and every time. so then its beeping like crazy, so I turn it off. It’s a button on steering but I changed that to OPD on or off. So 2 clicks on the screen then it’s off, but then the driver monitor system doesn’t like me looking at the screen and flashes up a warning and beeps. So then that’s now turned off, but it’s easy enough to do.. just everytime over and over. At least the steering assist is fixed to the steering wheel and can be easily turned off or on when required.
Although when on, to override you indicate.
I sometimes wonder if they are all part of a wider picture to discourage car use. What’s next a swab, as some maybe drug drivers. A scan of your face and license to make sure you are the driver and a checks on if the car is insured, taxed and has a mot, before it can be driven. Sorry we cannot connect to the external network at this time. So please use an alternative method of transport. Sorry the roads are busy and your journey is not deemed essential. How far will the technocrats take it.
ADAS stands for Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems, and it refers to electronic systems in a vehicle that use advanced technologies to assist the driver, enhancing safety and improving the driving experience.
Here’s a more detailed breakdown of ADAS:
What it is:
ADAS are a suite of technologies that use sensors, cameras, and other systems to monitor the vehicle’s surroundings and assist the driver in various tasks.
Examples of ADAS features:
Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC): Automatically maintains a set speed and distance from the vehicle ahead.
Automatic Parking Assist (APA): Helps with parking manoeuvres.
Blind Spot Detection: Alerts the driver to vehicles in their blind spot.
Lane Keeping Assist: Helps the vehicle stay within its lane.
Emergency Brake Assist: Can automatically apply the brakes in an emergency.
Traffic Sign Recognition: Identifies and displays traffic signs.
How it works:
ADAS systems use sensors (like radar, lidar, and cameras) to gather information about the vehicle’s surroundings, process this data, and then provide alerts or take actions to assist the driver.
Levels of Automation:
The SAE International J3016 standard defines six levels of driving automation, ranging from Level 0 (no automation) to Level 5 (full automation).
Level 0: No automation, driver is fully responsible.
Level 1: Driver assistance, e.g., adaptive cruise control.
Level 2: Partial driving automation, e.g., highway assist.
Level 3: Conditional driving automation.
Level 4: High driving automation.
Level 5: Full driving automation.
Benefits:
ADAS systems can improve safety, reduce driver fatigue, and enhance the overall driving experience.But also annoys the hell out of you.. Especially my daughter as everytime the audio playing is muted also and some I cannot alter or change.
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I guess it depends on how you have it set up, some screen shots might be useful and more information like your energy tariff and if it’s paired or not…The odds are it’s not charging because of a connection issue and likely could be tied into your Peugeot app not connecting to your car if that’s what you have the schedule set in..
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Can you not set the times and max percentage charge in the car and turn off dynamic charging in ohme. It should then only start charging at 11.30pm and end at 5.30am or end at 80% if set at that max SOC. Until a solution is found.
As then the car won’t allow the session to start until then, no matter when you plug it in. It’s kind of how I charge now I’m with eon next drive. No way I’m staying up till 12am to make sure it’s charging at the cheap rate.
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