Help with EV charging for elderly couple not into ‘Apps’

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  • #353717
    Paul_1964
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      Hi All
      my neighbours currently drive a Diesel car and have seen my EV and want to get a EV for their next mobility car.

      the problem i can see is that they do not get on with Apps, and setting up the charging each week will be a problem, they want just to plug the charger into the car and walk away, next morning the car needs to charged.

      they are on OVO at the moment, just standard not smart, in fact no smart meter yet!

      from what i see they will get the same charger as us, ohmePro, i dont think OVO support that anyway.
      Anyone any suggestions on how  they would be best to proceed . they are not sure what car either yet as they are going to the show at the nec to look at a few different ones.
      Cheers guys

      Paul

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    • #353719
      Woodpecker
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        Probably they would need to learn to use apps on a smart phone. I cant see them managing without it.

        Not the best fit for them.

        #353734
        MickC
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          @Paul_1964

          Lot of bridges to cross for them..how far up the road are they able to order an EV ?

           

          Do they own a “smart phone” now ?

           

          They will effectively have 3 apps installed on their smart phone for future EV car use…a manufacturer App…an Ohme App if thats what gets installed…..and a utility company App.

           

          The manufacturer App should be installed with the full help at the dealership,set the charge limit to 80%.

          If an Ohme charger is installed just set the start time 12 midnite end time 05.00am (cheap rate)….with British Gas as my utility…and just charge the car as and when your cars battery drops to 60%.

           

          Get them to watch YT videos.

           

          I’m 72 in a month and i was just like them nervous as hell about all this “tech”.

          #353735
          kezo
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            EDF, EON  Octopus Go are non intelligent tariffs, so it a cases of setting a basic on/off timer set once to account for cheap hours and they just plug in when charging is required.

            #353736
            Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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              Mickc what phone do you have ? I’m 60 i have a Samsung A13 been great had 4 years I think but I read online it’s had last update so I’m thinking of getting a Samsung A17 or A36 which both have 5 years of updates ! Want a good phone for my apps etc as want to go EV next can order December want to be prepared any advice on phone most welcome

              #353738
              MickC
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                Mickc what phone do you have ? I’m 60 i have a Samsung A13 been great had 4 years I think but I read online it’s had last update so I’m thinking of getting a Samsung A17 or A36 which both have 5 years of updates ! Want a good phone for my apps etc as want to go EV next can order December want to be prepared any advice on phone most welcome

                I have been using a Samsung A21s for a few years now….a couple of years ago i bought a Samsung A52s 5G phone…..i did the samsung smart switch moving everything over to the new phone ready to use…..its still in the box with the cellophane on the screen…..i keep saying i will swap the “sim” over to the new phone and use it..but i never do…………..its like with trainers/shoes i have multiple pairs of brand new ones in the wardrobe….i will wear my old ones until they vertually fall off ny feet.

                #353744
                peterbosher56
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                  Hi

                   

                  I have the Ohme charger, skoda Enyaq and OVO energy. I don’t use the Ohme app just use it as a plug. The OVO Charge anytime App and the Skoda App work well together. Had some problems at the start with the Ohme App so deleted it and all fine now. Charge Anytime will charge when power at the cheap rate is available not just overnight. Just requires a bit of App setting up.

                   

                  P

                  PeterB

                  #353781
                  Paul_1964
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                    Well  the couple have both got Smartphones and the husband a ipad too. not sure that they do much with them.
                    anyway i have given it some thought  and i think they should be ok . i just set our  Octopus app up  with a charge to 100% setting, (the car is set to 80% so will not charge past that anyway) and ready by 9am. i did nothing else and then tonight just plugged the car in and walked away, the app guessed i had 46% left (i have 29% in reality) and then set a schedule as i didnt correct it. with it thinking i need 100% it should charge to the amount i really want anyway. with it set like this they could just plug in once a week and they will be happy and no fuss to do if the cant manage the app. at the end of the day i live 50ft from them so not a problem to help them out.

                    #353782
                    Woodpecker
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                      On my Ohme App, and nearly everyone with the App has “Approve plug-in”.

                      You dont really want any tom dick or harry driving up an plugging in.

                      Hope they have something similar, or easy access to the isolator switch for the charger.

                      #353794
                      Jason23
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                        On my Ohme App, and nearly everyone with the App has “Approve plug-in”. You dont really want any tom dick or harry driving up an plugging in. Hope they have something similar, or easy access to the isolator switch for the charger.

                        Yes, I have the same function.

                        I was in hospital last week after a mild heart attack and I had a stent fitted. My wife was driving the car to come to visit me and it needed to be charged so I talked her through how to plug it in and the App came through on my phone to Approve and so I did and the car charged just fine.

                         

                        #353796
                        Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                          I’d love to know what phone people use on here Samsung android ? Or Apple ?

                          #353797
                          belfast4
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                            The manufacturer App should be installed with the full help at the dealership,set the charge limit to 80%.

                            Could I ask why only charge the car to 80% why not charge it to 100%

                            #353798
                            Jason23
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                              The manufacturer App should be installed with the full help at the dealership,set the charge limit to 80%. Could I ask why only charge the car to 80% why not charge it to 100%

                               

                              The unwritten rule is 20:80 – don’t let the battery go below 20% or above 80% for regular charging.

                              Obviously that changes if you need 100% for a long journey.

                              It is better for the battery health.

                              #353821
                              Avatar photoAbercol
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                                Yup 20:80 rule…Unless they have a car with an LFP battery, they prefer to be charged to 100% at least once a week to keep them in balance (they go out of balance faster than the standard cobalt/nickel batteries).

                                It can be a bit of a minefield, but it is manageable once they get their head round it. My father in law enjoys his Atto 3 at 78yrs old, no home charger, uses a few apps, has a Tesla account to save on charging and seems to navigate it all ok on his Samsung Galaxy 8.

                                 

                                In life, it's not who you know that's important, it's how your wife found out.

                                #353827
                                Woodpecker
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                                  The manufacturer App should be installed with the full help at the dealership,set the charge limit to 80%. Could I ask why only charge the car to 80% why not charge it to 100%

                                  You can charge it to whatever you like. I reckon 90% is good.

                                  It is fast charging that kills batteries or did with early batteries.

                                  Slow charging at 7.4 Kw is good.

                                  #353831
                                  kezo
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                                    The usable capacity of an NMC battery is lower than the gross capacity because of safety buffers set by the Battery Management System and the manufacture to prevent overcharging and damaging the battery and to stop them becoming discharged.

                                    A 2024 fleet study (10,000 EVs) found average annual degradation of only 1.8% — down from 2.3% in 2019 — showing modern BMS engineering is winning the battle.

                                    It is far more damaging if a lithium battery becomes discharged or drops belows the voltage threshold, than it is to charge to charge to its full “useable” capacity because it will not become overcharged, as it is protectected by the BMS. Has is continual fast charging far more damaging than slow AC charging.

                                    All lithium batteries need a full cycle charge-discharge to keep their cells ballanced. LifePo4 (LFP) benefit from float charging (AC) to provide optimal cell life.

                                    Charged to 100% in extreme heat is the real killer, as the batteries calendar aging doubles when the SOC exceeds 90% and temperature hits 45°C or more. In the UK?!

                                     

                                     

                                    #353846
                                    belfast4
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                                      If you have bought the car with your own hard earned money charge it to conserve the battery, if it is a lease car no matter where it is leased from charge it to 100% it is no skin of your nose if it needs anything done to it under warranty.

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