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It depends on so many variables.
Mainly what’s local to you and the cost per kwh. Then the max charging speeds of the car, suitable for your needs, etc and how you will adapt around charging.
There are 2 types AC and DC. AC is slower but my car can handle up to 22kw.So in theory I can fill my whole 64kwh battery in 3 hrs, using a 22kw charger, But how often do I stop somewhere for 3 hrs.
So I’d use 22 kw’s if the price was reasonable just to top up, like while we eat something or are shopping etc, charging often and just adding a little, amount of charge.
Then DC which is much faster. If you have a Tesla or Ionity not far away, that would be my go to for a full charge, well to 80% as after the speed slows down a lot. It also depends on your actual regular mileage and the range of the EV you select as to how often you’ll need to charge. The longest I’ve actually public charged for on 150+ kwh units is 19mins.
My car is capable of a max speed of 158kw. So I don’t use DC chargers under 150kw, as using lower rated ones will just waste my time. So I generally filter out all those under 150kw, same as I also filter out 7kw and 11 kw from my searches for AC chargers. Which sometimes can be cheaper then using the faster ones, but like I said take longer to charge. My usage varies a lot. Some months I charge only once a week and others 3 times a week. If I didn’t have a home charger, I’d charge to 80% using Tesla and then likely charge up when I can on 22 kwh units that not that expensive as to charge 80% to 100% on DC takes as long as 10% to 80%(30min) so from 10% to 100% would take an hour.
I have 150kw/180kw chargers at the bottom of my street virtually in Aldi but I wouldn’t use them as they just to expensive, 79p via shells own app, 89p via zap pay and electroverse. So its always worth check which option of payment is the cheapest. Instavolt after 8pm via there app is 54p, so I’d only use them after 8pm.
Certainly charging off peak can be cheaper, with some CPO. Ionity do a flat flat with top subscription at 43p a kwh. Bonus to Ionity is many are 800v not 400v. So charging times can be 50% less, 15mins over 30mins.
All EVs are not equal. Some only charge at 100kw and have 50kw batteries and I’d say they are not ideal for those without a home charger. Unless you do very low mileage. You’ll be charging more and for longer each time. Especially when doing a longer journey.
Also you get less miles in winter than in summer from the same charge. Let’s say most ev’s will achieve 3 mile per kwh so 50kwh / 150 miles unless your doing 70mph on the motorway, then you might get less.
My car has a 64 kwh usable battery so can achieve 192 miles. 77kwh / 231 miles.
So depending on you mileage you’ll only really use 70% of the battery most of the time. So if you only want to charge once a week, from the 77kwh battery you’d be able to do 161.7 miles a week from the 70% soc.
So that’s an important thing to consider. From a 50 kwh only 105 miles. http://evdatabase.org/uk is a great source for real world ranges and data on cars.
You will get a free BP pulse subscription, which takes the price to a max of 63p a kwh, but again it’s no real use if ones not local or is slower than your max speed, some are only 50kw and that’s 3 time slower than a 150kw charger.
So these are the things I would look at to see if without a home charger it’s viable for you now.
You could try and get on a pavement channel / gully or other trial in you local area and that might then allow you to home charge.
It can be done, but it needs a Little research and planning and maybe even a change of your route and mindset to just filling with fuel and is certainly different.
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i spent an hour or two in the chesterfield hyndai mainly for the kona but i had to try the 6 and it wasnt 2 bad the good thing is huge doors that open very wide and the seats automatically move backwards for you to get in and then move to your saved driving position. so it wasn’t too uncomfortable getting in and out. the seats themselves very comfortable. the thing is if my condition gets worse i will be in a wheelchair so a lower car will be better. the only drawback with the 6 is i cant charge at home, but my mileage will halve after next week unless you know any one who needs a 66 year old bookkeeper. so i reckon once a month at dobbies for an 80% charge will suffice, free coffee and bacon bap plus whatever i spend in the garden centre and cotton traders so could be an expensive refuel lol.
Arnold clark do charging now also 55p a kwh. You book via their app. Instavolt after 8pm is 54p a kwh via the app. There is a tesla open to all at east midlands designer outlet after 8pm till 00.00 only 38p and 00.00 to 8am 32p that’s without the monthly subscription.
I got my ex30 from chesterfield as my local one closed a few years ago now. wasn’t sure if id get the charger installed but luckily I did, but I’d drive to tesla there from me, once a week if needed. As they just so much cheaper than other CPO off peak. plus you do get a bp pulse subscription from MB and they about 63p but in chesterfield fastest is only 50kw and that’s too slow, Arnold Clark are 150kw so in theory you charge 3 times as quick and cheaper.
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Dedicated EVs can be misleading in that regard, due to the battery pack being in the floor. Meaning the seats are higher than you’d expect in a low slung car. Of course it’s not going to be the same seating position as in a VW Touareg or something, but it’s not as low as you might think.
On the ex30 I have the floor is raised, which is strange at 1st as there’s no real drop down from the lower door sills to put your feet in and its a dedicated ev. The mach e was kind of the same if I remember and both the height of the door and roof is lower than all cars I’ve had before. The scenic was the worst for that, everytime I tried to get in a bashed my head of the door opening. Certainly though I’d not discount any car that ticked my boxes till I’d sat in it and had a good look at the boot etc and lastly had a test drive.
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I’ve even had to jump the car with the emergency power connector, annoyingly and thankfully when the car is dead I can get it back awake and unplugged in 5 minutes I’ve done it that often, and most of the time I take a jump pack with me everywhere and leave it with the bonnet cracked. It even died when I was using the granny charger, and I’ve always had the car plugged in when at home and still died. I had a call from the dealer yesterday and they are replacing the DC-DC converter which charges the 12v battery. I’m frustrated that Motability won’t replace a faulty car they’ll treated it as a cancellation and reorder which is horse-defecation as they are getting paid to supply a fit for purpose car, if something can’t be repaired the standard course is to replace or refund but I doubt they’ll give the AP back and all the PIP payments. I mainly don’t want to reorder as it’s £4900 now as when I ordered it was £1250 as I had a first car discount, and the only okay EV options which aren’t astronomical are the Ford Exploder and not-Capri, which would also leave me without a car for work for months and my manager is already annoyed with the headaches I’ve had with this Volvo. I’m already looking at fitting an external plug for my CTEK charger so I can leave the 12v on charge all the time.
Indeed you shouldn’t have to go to those extremes. I certainly wouldn’t be.
Are MB not providing you a hire car while its at Volvo or until the issue is solved. Like I said I totally understand and hopefully the new part sorts your issues. I’m guessing the 1st time they replaced the 12v.
As for exchanging it for another car, unfortunately that’s not really how the new car industry works. Mb doesn’t buy the car from the dealer, they just act as a broker between us and MB and the manufacture.
They actual buy the car at a set price from the manufacture and I don’t know how that effects the whole process when something goes wrong, I.e. who takes the hit. MB have had a lot of issues with people handing back cars mid lease and have got tuff on that, but still that shouldn’t effect cars with issues that cannot be fixed. Although you need to although that process to happen. Now they are likely replacing a different part to before. I get its not ideal.
It’s more than likely you’d have to do a Rejection and get a refund if you owned the car as I have seen a few people do on the ex30 of the scheme and certainly these issues are compounded when they happen, as we are not the owner of the vehicle MB are.
I guess one needs to read the MB terms and conditions and the actual consumer law to see how that effects us, as the lessee. That’s why they provide a hire car or a Taxi allowance. It’s never happened to me via mb. So I’ve not had to look into it all and I do get your frustration and I say this with no disrespect, you band aiding the car is just or was prolonging the issue. I get why you have been doing so, I do but, I’d just call rac again and again and contact MB and Volvo. As its not my car…Not my issue to solve. By doing so you have no real evidence of the issues happening either. leaving the 12v on charge is not a solution.
A hire car would be a better solution until the issue was fixed. Maybe you need to escalate your issues higher up the chain at MB and often that’s via email or in writing to the CEO, as others have suggested.
I’d give it one last go on the phone with them and ask how you escalate it higher as the people at the call centre only can do so much. Nothing is easy these days, when stuff goes bad. When my car was fixed, it took Autoglass 2 weeks to actually pay for the car once fixed and cost them another 2 weeks car hire of a mach e premium. Which was another whole sage to get, over a basic car and that was ice.
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I got an EV 6 months ago and luckily I can charge at home. I have done 3 trips outside my cars range and it hasn’t been a problem for us charging.
The longest I’ve spent charging was 19 mins. I charge at home maybe once every week and it’s so cheap and what really helps is cabin preconditioning or cabin comfort. No longer do I get into a cold car in the winter or I can keep it cool while having lunch or shopping. So an Ev is perfect for us now.
Although I do need an suv and looking at the 6 recently in a car park and it looked low, So I’d have to sit in one to see. It will certainly open up other options and is worth considering, if you can charge at home and like us only do the odd longer trip.
As for different trim levels and AP prices it really is only something you can only compare the trim level on each different model.
Just got our 1st car with a panoramic roof. As it was the only trim available on the scheme and its brilliant. We really missed it, when we didn’t have the car for a month and the hire car was so dark inside, without one.
Would I pay extra probably not, but for better more comfortable seats that powered or adaptive cruise I would. As they so important to me. Although I have never added an extra to an MB car always what comes as standard.
It is also all about the actual drive and that often decides which I go for although you might not get to do a test drive in the trim level you’ll get.
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Happened to my cousin, she’s bought a cheap fiat 500 to get her by, till it can be fixed. It’s common though, often the recalls are not such a huge issue that a stop drive notice is issued.
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I have an EX30 had it almost 6 months also. No actual mechanical issues or faults, but have heard of the odd issue you speak of where the car is totally unresponsive, often its due to 12v issues and having no key it’s a big issue. As you cannot enter the car.
There is an emergency port to give the 12v some charge under the left front bumper. Sometimes though it’s just the battery itself that is faulty from the off. Had a golf in 2017 and within a few months it just wouldn’t start after a supermarket visit and needed replacing. RAC only had a bigger more powerful one and never had an issue after.
So the question is are they putting in smaller batteries to lower costs and weight and in some situations, that creates an issue. After all the 12v is a critical part of any Ev still.
I wonder do you plug the car in to charge a lot like on IOG and for long periods of time, where the car is not actually charging for periods but still creating slots and waking the car. As if the car goes to sleep it might then not wake to charge, which is another issue many EV owners suffer with.
I don’t dynamic charge you see. I set it all in the car and it is something I have wondered about. I generally don’t let the soc get below 20% and charge to 90%
Alternately it could be a hardware or software issue that stops the car from sending charge from the traction battery to the 12v, or something is draining it.
The issue is they won’t exchange it for a different ex30.
You’d have to order again and the cost of AP on ex30 is now over 4k. As it has risen hugely since 6 months ago, when it was £1999. So IMO I would look at something else. I agree the ex30 is a great little package. Suits me down to the T also and I don’t know what else I’d select, as I need something around 4.2m long to fit onto my offroad parking space.
What exactly happens.
I have sat in mine watching videos with climate on for over an hour and car has used 1 or 2 kwh and not had one issue and I also do lots of very short journeys. That power is being provided to the 12v. So it is constantly draining and recharging, Seems to be a weak link on any car. Even more so maybe on an EV.
The 12V battery in the Volvo EX30 is crucial for powering various low-voltage systems and components, essentially everything except the electric propulsion system itself.
The other problem is dealerships and getting the car actually looked at.
Autoglass broke my adas, fitting a new windscreen and it took over a month, just to get the car in to be seen by volvo. Then a wait for the part etc, another month it was actually at Volvo. Just from a stone.
So that time frame is rather normal these days. Having to wait for it to actual be seen even if it towed there by RAC. It will only be looked at if a slot is cancelled or when the next one is available. Which adds to the stress each time.
All dealerships are not equal, after all they usually part of a group. So maybe try another if its fixed and happens again. See if there tech is better qualified. As your best solution I feel would be to have the problem solved and fixed. Sometimes electrical shorts are hard to locate fix and how long do they have to diagnose the actual issue before the next customer is booked in.
I also did an AI search and it suggested
Ensure the main high-voltage battery pack is charged regularly, as the 12V battery relies on it for power. Avoid letting the charge level drop below 20% to prevent the 12V battery from also going flat.
Preventing parasitic drains: Ensure all electrical components and accessories are switched off when the car is parked to avoid unnecessary drain on the 12V battery.
Hopefully you get it back and it gets sorted but if it doesn’t your options are pretty limited.
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If you drive a lot of miles and do a lot of trips away from hope or even cannot charge at home you can get a Tesla subscription for the whole year for £90 well worth it. My nearest one is as cheap as 23p a kwh from 00.00 to 4am. I also look at doing a trip to Sicily compared both Tesla and Ionity and Tesla was only 1 stop that was not a tesla in 1800 miles there. I have used them but without a sub and at peak time paid 56p but it was only 51p last time. while other prices rose tesla dropped there’s but did increase the peak hours slightly.
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Go and try and get something off the scheme, New for 3 years, that’s currently on the scheme and include all the things that come as part of the MB lease like tyres, servicing and insurance. Then say its not fit for purpose.
Before it was lack of choice, as less and less cars were on the scheme. Now it’s different there’s more choice but many are just too expensive. It was always going to happen when MB increased the price cap.
All new car must have adas and that costs, driving up prices of cars. They say the cost is cheaper than it is. Development and testing of the adas system isn’t cheap and then making them more and more advanced. So eventually we have fully autonomous cars that are safer than humans driving them. So no more driving for our own good. It won’t be tomorrow, it will slowly happen so people just adapt to the new normal.
The problem is not MB the problem is the car market and the forced targets by government and others and thus car manufactures. Add also the fact that car prices have risen and risen over that last few years and the disability allowance has not kept pace. This was always going to happen.
This year less ICE cars will be sold and next year even less. So that creates a lack of supply and inflates prices. Couple that with some manufactures, converting production lines to EV’S, as there’s a point where making ICE cars is just not viable anymore at such reduced numbers and they need to be ready.
Yes Mb are pushing EV’s via grants, but are they forcing you to get one? Even if you say you have no other option they are not Imo forcing you. Your own circumstances are doing that. There’s a limit to what MB can do.
I know the truth is hard to hear and Current AP’s for me are even to high. I paid £1295 ap for my EX30 with the NVP in OCT now the ap is £4899 two quarters later.
It is possible without a home charger in most situations if you change your mindset and are prepared to use cheaper CPO and getting a car with 150+ Dc speed will save you waiting over 20/30 mins. For many who don’t use the car a lot maybe only need to charge once a week sometimes even once every two weeks.
Yes it’s not as cheap as charging at home. One needs to look at the cost over the whole lease and include the AP and the savings or extra cost on fuel that any car will have over the 3 year lease.
I recently came back to the scheme and got an EV. All was good off the scheme until someone crashed into the car when parked and left the scene. So then my insurance is going to rise from that. Soon the car would of needed 2 new tyres, another service and it’s first mot. Oh yeah and the other 2 occasions I had damage fixed from people hitting the car in a carpark. That I didn’t calculate for.
You could buy used, but then that’s not new and not like on the scheme, that’s likely could be many’s best option, but not always as good and doesn’t give you the reliability of the scheme. It’s nothing new. Only we can decide what works best for us and what we can afford or justify.
Many make good points about the attack on the car, all cars by the UN and WEF etc. It’s clear that’s what the policies are achieving.
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Indeed, I know of some who from the huge savings they making on fuel each month by home charging it is paying for their car payments. Obviously they doing the miles to warrant that daily and is within the cars range. So no real added costs of public charging for most of there driving.
So far this month has been my most expensive month charging, since getting my Ev. So far I’ve used 245.85kwh (£16.50) / 12.3460kwh at a telsa ota £6.29 and 7.54kwh at an Instavolt £4.07 total cost £26.86.
Did a 280 mile round trip down to Harlow and back also. So since the beginning of feb, I’ve spent £93.73 on fuel. Have driven 2,372 miles, So just under 4p a mile that includes all public charging, preconditioning and using climate comfort in this heat as well as sometimes sitting in the car waiting for an hour or less, with the climate running.
Even if I got 400miles from my petrol mhev a full tank cost £60 (which sometimes I’d only get 200miles in winter, driving locally) I’d of spent at least £355.8O on fuel. So not bad and I guess if you drive more the saving would be huge. There no debating that. Guess those savings will help against my next AP in a 2028 or a deposit on a car off the scheme. The fact is each year we head closer to no new ice cars, so more and more EVs will be on the scheme as less an less ice are made and offered to the scheme. As I predict demand for the less and less made each year will be huge. My view has certainly changed as has my actual car usage and that suits an Ev more.
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Would extending the EV leases to 5 years smooth out the losses ?
Beat me to it. Yet they are getting tougher on extending past 3 years. But then a car might be on 100k miles, instead of 60k 3 years. How many use the full allowance though. It’s clear though that the main losses are from cars they bought 3 years ago at inflated prices. They profited then, but didn’t see that the bubble would burst as many suggested it would. As it was born out of a lack of supply, coupled with higher costs for manufacturing and the needed microchips. Plus more competition from the east. Yes EV’s play a part as Technology moves on and leaves those older cars less desirable mainly Imo down to there slow charging time and speeds. What will happen when 800v are the norm, who will want 400v, unless that’s all they can afford. The average EV loses 1.8% range each year, which isn’t bad and is expected. So in 10 years 18% if looked after. Personally I’d never buy an EV at this moment in time any many are just leasing them. Those leasing companies are going to feel this also, as will many others effected by green policies. As for ice as there are less and less being sold each year and the next due to government levels. Used values will rise on them due to lack of availability and a higher demand for them than supply. There is a cost to climate change polices and that’s losing huge money on the transition being forced upon us all. how it all falls and plays out in the end who knows. Ultimately its us the consumer and tax payer who foots the bill.
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The blue badge as far as I Understand, only applies to the highways and council owned car parks not private land. So any fine or charge for not displaying a BB is unlawful. I used to work in this industry, although for my local council on the roads and on there housing estates. The whole system including the appeals process is corrupted and needs regulation. It would take me a while to explain all that. They try it on as most will pay or they will give you stress trying to chase you for even more and more.
If you appeal for instance, not to them directly, but to the appeal body they signed up to, you often lose the right to pay the lower amount if they find the case against you still. As you’ve found out they not actually allowing you to pay a lower amount, during the period offered under contract. S o that could be a breach of contract and just because you put something in a contract does not make it lawful. When you contact the appeal body the parking company pays them to hear the case not you. So only then can you really under law not be allowed to pay the lower fee during the period Setout. Most won’t know this and will then pay the full fee to stop further action. They know exactly what they doing and if It goes to court you case is good they’ll just drop the case against you, not lose it..
On private land any argument against or for the charge or invoice is a contractual one. You could email them again and offer £60 to settle the claim and state your case. Although I’m not sure what your actual invoice is for and what your basis for appeal is.
Which at the time of parking they didn’t provide there full terms of contract, just a small version. Also do they have the correct authority to act for the actual land owner. That is important.
If one goes to court and asks for this to be provided which is your right. Odds are they will drop the case. As they won’t want that information becoming public. Personally I have never had to use that, but I have won a few cases, I was sure I could win.
Do not agree to fast track. Ask for it to heard at your local court. For instance if you actually bought a ticket and you entered the reg wrong slightly. what actual loss is there… none. Overstaying the time you paid for unless you have had a medical episode, then I’d just pay it.
Although I really prefer using carparks where I pay after not before so it’s never is an issue of overstaying but it’s not always possible.
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You’ll own nothing and be happy.
A simple google search for WEF predictions and AI gives you this.
The World Economic Forum (WEF) has made several predictions about the future, particularly focusing on the year 2030. Key themes include significant technological advancements, shifts in global power, and changes in societal structures. Some specific predictions include the rise of AI, the potential decline of the US as a superpower, and a move towards more service-based economies.
Here’s a more detailed look at some of the WEF’s predictions:
Technology and the Future of Work:
AI and Automation:
The WEF anticipates significant growth in AI, robotics, and automation, which will reshape the job market. Some roles, like those in frontline industries (farmworkers, delivery drivers) and care jobs (nursing, teaching), are expected to see significant growth, while others, such as cashiers and administrative assistants, may decline.
Digital Access:
Broadening digital access is predicted to be a major transformative trend, with many employers expecting it to reshape their businesses.Skills Gap:
The WEF also highlights the need for upskilling and reskilling to prepare for the changing job market, with technology-related skills (AI, big data, cybersecurity) being in high demand.“You’ll Own Nothing, and You’ll Be Happy”:
This controversial prediction suggests a shift towards a service-based economy where people lease or subscribe to goods and services rather than owning them outright.
Geopolitical and Societal Changes:Shifting Global Power:
The WEF predicts a decline in US dominance and a sharing of power among other countries.Climate Change:
The WEF recognizes climate change as a major challenge, with potential for significant displacement of populations and economic losses.Social and Political Instability:
The WEF expects that increased global displacement and conflicts, coupled with the impacts of climate change, could push democracy to its limits.Space Exploration:
The WEF anticipates continued progress towards manned missions to Mars.
Other Predictions:
Health and Wellbeing: The WEF suggests that advancements in biotechnology could eliminate the need for organ donors and that personalized health monitoring will become more prevalent.Sustainability: The WEF emphasizes the need for sustainable food production, reducing plastic pollution, and protecting oceans.
Evolving Values: The WEF predicts a potential shift away from traditional Western values.
It’s important to note:
The WEF’s predictions are not set in stone and are subject to change based on evolving circumstances.
Some of the predictions, like “You’ll own nothing,” have been met with criticism and skepticism.
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Just over 3 years ago I left the scheme and bought a new car on HP at 0% it wasn’t really an issue until next-door crashed into the car and drove off and it will be going to court soon as they not admitting liability. So worst case my premium on next renewal would jump. Even best case it will still rise as I have made a non fault claim, so I’m now more of a risk.
So I decided after it was fixed which cost 6.5k and a hire car for around a month as parts was on backorder. To come back to the scheme. Ordered my car late oct and it arrived beginning of feb and to get an EV as they was offering £750 nvp and a free home charger. As now an EV suits our main usage.
Plus as I got the car at 0% I actually had positive equity in it. So actually I was no worse off really than if I’d leased on the scheme. So it can work but the scheme does give you a lot of positives many have mentioned.
Although for the time off the scheme I didn’t have to worry about losing my pip and then losing my car and my life line to the outside world, come the next review. Now I have that worry in the back of my mind and Liebour have brought it all up again. So its a constant worry that, what if you lose your lifeline and they change the rules and conditions etc on you to save money. I try to just ignore it and put it to the back of my mind, but it’s not easy to do. Stress also effects some of my conditions hugely and like I said I didn’t have that off the scheme, but its come back being on it again because of the attack on people with disabilities.
It will be what it will be but still, life shouldn’t be like this. we shouldn’t be treated like this. So I guess that’s a real positive to being off the scheme.
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Was it a call centre in a far distant land also. I had to call them to find out information as I needed a new windscreen and they appointed Autoglass, who broke my cars adas camera unit fitting it. Then AG said my car is somehow unsafe to drive, without adas and also tried to say the insurance would be not liable if an accident occurred because no adas systems are active. Could they answer basic questions. No they couldn’t.
I could hardly understand the persons broken English. They then put me threw to Autoglass who couldn’t help especially regarding if the insurance is still valid or not, with adas broken as AG has claimed on there behalf. I know for a fact that if there’s an issue the system disables itself and is just like a car without adas, are they all unsafe to drive.
Infact you couldn’t make it up. RSA was 1000 times better. MB all they did was say contact Autoglass. This has been going on since 3rd of April my cars now at Volvo since the 28th of May and is now sitting there awaiting a whole new camera unit that’s on backorder, with no date as to when.
So yeah I totally understand your ordeal with DL and there lack of actual knowledge of uk rules and regulations and they just robots following the guidelines that been set out. I need to speak to my supervisor for more information and then still cannot answer the simple questions asked.
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It depends on the actual dealer and on the model of car. Some will provide them like on my ex30, they come as standard being the ultra trim. On other cars they haven’t and some dealers have included them as they do a tank of fuel or some charge you for the fuel. Others just don’t, unless you haggle with them for them.
I have a mach e loan car, it has no mats, it doesn’t really matter as I don’t own the car. Although I had one last summer and it had a hole in the carpet near the peddles. So if that happens who’s fault is it and would you buy that car used if it did. So should MB be including mats as they do metallic paint, which cost more. To protect there asset.
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I’ve had the ex30 since February, I absolutely love it’s minimalist interior. The speedo you get used to and is actual better Imo. As I have a Mach e on loan because of Autoglass and it is in the traditional position and more dangerous as you looking down more. Where in the ex30 it’s in your peripheral view.
The Mach e has a huge screen also, but the ex30 layout and speed is so much better. I miss the google maps with charging stops built in which the mach e has, fords own system that Imo is naff, as I found out on Saturday due to the heavy rain my range dropped 7% on the way home. So I had to pull over to look at zap maps to see what was near apart from one shell the ford was saying. Which was one charger and guess what out of order, oh and the faff to get it to see chargers. where as on the ex30 its just there and so easy.. It tell you what % you’ll arrive with at any stop added to your route or even search.
The reason I got the ex30 was its ride quality, on the roads we have. The mach e is sometimes uncomfortable where as the ex30 is so comfortable. There are downsides getting in to it though, the dash is very forwards near the door but apart from that I really want it back asap, although who knows how long for the adas camera unit to arrive. The mach e is not as comfortable a ride as the the ex30.
The ex30 is like marmite. The ultra you get the electric seats and the 4 way lumbar is brilliant and has so much movement and tilt for me that’s a huge plus. The panoramic roof, 360 camera, park assist and 22kw AC, which is very handy to have. Also has a max charging speed of 158kw which is fast enough and saves time.
I did an hour test drive in all cars on my shortlist and the ex30 was the most comfortable. Yes the plastics are cheap, but they are on most cars. I do like though how they have used recycled materials even for the seats. I have the blue ones as I could get that quicker and they made from old jeans and the vegan leather.
Certainly do a decent test drive and decide for your self even if that means contacting and visiting a different dealer.
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Well put ELTel – fortunately I live in an area where the community spirit is quite good – I think it makes a huge difference – not just physical help, but mentally as well.
Exactly, sometimes I do feel the biggest hurdle is sometimes people themselves, especially to ev’s. Many areas don’t have that community spirit these days, so your very lucky. Personally so far I have found most EV drivers do and stopping to charge on a longer journey is a chance for some R&R.
On the few longer trips I have made in my EV I have noticed, that’s made a huge difference for me, to my overall well being. Yes its not easy, but so is getting in and out of a car, or just sitting in it for long periods my body cramps up and my pain levels increase.
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Half a tank of each gives you E7.5 and a lower octane level (ron) than super unleaded and is cheaper and most cars just don’t need 97+ ron. My Suzuki used to run smoother on E7.5 than it did on E10 and gives a bit more get up and go.
I didn’t see any point filling up with just e5 97/99 ron. Although, put that in my older Honda civic sport and drive it so the vtec kicks in and you then notice a huge difference. For day to day stop start driving E10 is ok. E5 95 ron removal from the uk market is another forced upon us government policy that makes no difference only costs more for drivers, however you look at it.
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It’s due to many not be able to charge at home, most of the time. That they handing them back often after getting a grant. Mainly because the cost of public charging is more. Yes their are obstacles and they vary depending on your condition. More needs to be done. The accessible bays can be used by all when others are full. which makes sense when a site is busy.
The go charge card offers no discounts at all and all MB offer is a BP sub. Why pay 85p a kwh if you can pay 56p or even less at other CPO, if you do some research. but not everyone can.
Android automotive with charging stops built in is a huge help. Especially for many with planning issues. I love that about my ex30, although the loan mach e ford nav sys is not as good, but still has charging stops and it can add then automatically or you can replace them.
Theirs a wheelchair user on YouTube who has some great videos on his troubles but he also likes to do it…no matter how hard and I’m not saying all should but that’s where the community can step in and help people after all your there charging also. So why not help a person who might need it.
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Unfortunately, their T&C say this If a windscreen chip we work on becomes a crack during our attempted repair, you will need a replacement windscreen. In that case you will have to pay any additional excess due for a replacement. Sorry for the bad news
If thats the case, it a right cop out!
Maybe so, but I bet it also says. That the glass may crack during repair, and you acknowledge this risk.
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Eon are doing a trial of intelligent charging but only for certain cars to start with. I am on eon next drive and I like it as its simple. I know where I am and always charge at 6.7p.
I prefer to set the schedule and % to reach in the car but if not you can just set the tariff up and then set the price cap at 6.7p which I had to do as I have a Mach e on loan, but I don’t on my EX30.
As the mach e seems to priorities % over time. But then it is a strange charging system setup, so maybe it was because it needed a charge at my home first to know the speed, to calculate if it could reach the % set by 7am. Something I need to check and see if Removing the PC it now starts at 00.00 not straight away. As yesterday it said it would be done by well before 7am to 90% soc.
If you need to charge more than what you can put in over the 7hrs at night, then other tariffs are better for you, but if you don’t then it’s great. Plus the actual peak electric rate and gas isn’t much higher than I was paying before I got the EV.
For us that matters as my wife works from home and we are now home schooling our daughter. I have shifted some usage to overnight like the dishwasher and the ice cube maker and some occasional other stuff, but never the dryer. Although sometimes we put it on a 6am after doing a wash overnight.
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They broke my adas camera unit. So couldn’t re-calibrate it when they fitted the new windscreen at Derby (30 miles away) and my EX30 is now finally at Volvo. Indeed it does need a whole new unit. Which is on backorder and who knows when the part will become available, been on BO since the beginning of April. Which is when I had the windscreen originally replaced. What an ordeal I can tell you. but at least I have a Mach e Mustang / premium 91kwh as a replacement for which some seemed to dismiss my reasons for requiring an EV as a replacement and that I would.
I changed my appointment time and date online to one more suitable as the one that I had booked clashed as a more important meeting had to happen on that day. So no reason you cannot change it. If the crack is into the wiper area. I’d personally get it replaced asap.
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More and more people are buying cars online so really the dealership model has changed quite a bit. Where it leaves us, is I guess an unknown. I already live in an area where many car dealers are not. Renault have moved out of the area the dealership is now fully Hyundai, yet fiat have moved in with Nissan. So to me it’s nothing new. If you want a certain car as ones locally don’t tick all my boxes or the ap is too high, then I need to travel and that doesn’t always apply to servicing. As the Renault service can be still done locally at Hyundai.
I decided to get a Volvo this time and there used to be a local dealership, but it closed quite a while ago now, they still had a service centre. Well in feb they went bust and closed the doors. So now the other dealers which there are two are 15 to 20 miles away are extra busy now. So for them to just look at my car was 6 weeks. So that’s a bigger issue also. Although with an EV charging at home it doesn’t cost as much to drive there as in a ice car.
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Good choice with the D Line cable matt, thet to like Kerbo are gaining council approval up and down the country. How long you got the Mach E for, or will it be a case of Motability saying thats enough, you need to order a new car? Who’s pick up the bill, bet it won’t be Autoglass, even though they are the ones at fault!
My C.C . ain’t supportive of them one bit. But needs must. Doubt anyone will come around at night to say you got to remove it and I only charge at night.
I don’t have a clue how long I’ll have the mach e for. But theirs no way I can fit it on my offroad space. Its half a metre longer than my ex30 at 4.7m which I why I looked into Kerbo trial. Which is 9 years long and tied to the house and our responsibility and all liabilities are on us. Only the councils own company via can do any work on it etc etc.. but no costs of said works or even to have it removed. Although they it install for free and guarantee it for 2 years, but not the liability in that period.
Autoglass are paying for it, I don’t know if then they claiming of Direct line or there own insurance but they broke the camera unit and even had a tow truck take the car to Volvo yesterday for them to look at it today. As they don’t want me driving it. Although now they saying its for my convenance and have refused to put why they said it was somehow unsafe to drive in writing. There’s no date on the part and Volvo have recently started production in Ghent of the ex30. So I guess parts are being used for more new cars for USA and Canada and none for ones already made, especially ones with lots of micro chips in them.
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