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i know its early and things will probabley change.
personnally good news glad i ordered when i did ev4 has gone up but at least gt line is back for those that need elec seats and boot. although the ev3 is cheaper now.
some bargains in the mini countryman all4 prices are down as are petrol prices.ok if you dont need to play music from a usb.
overall numbers down to 701 so will be interesting to see wmc’s post later today.
anything youve spotted good or bad.
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Anyone looking an estate is getting hit hard as the cheapest is an astra at £3749, or £4k for an auto.
Anyone looking an estate is getting hit hard as the cheapest is an astra at £3749, or £4k for an auto.
That’s a luxury brand now??!
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Anyone looking an estate is getting hit hard as the cheapest is an astra at £3749, or £4k for an auto.
I wondered whether we will see the BYD Seal 6 Touring (675l boot)
However, given the prices of PHEV’s, it won’t come cheap if it does join!
I’m unsure whether the Inster 02 85kW 49kWh has gone down or not. It’s listed twice, one at zero and one at 199. And Hyundai pdf is still Q1, have to wait until it becomes clear.
Anyone looking an estate is getting hit hard as the cheapest is an astra at £3749, or £4k for an auto.
You can get a petrol Focus Estate from £995.
If I were to decide today on a new order, I’d likely have to return to petrol because of APs or get the EV3, as any EV has to be around 4.3m long to fit on the front to charge.
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Eltel I just put large estate into the search. They have the focus as a small estate. I thought they would have been around the same size tbh.
Wow, looks like the base Skoda Enyaq has gone up to £1999 now.
Really glad I ordered mine when I did at £750. That was a big difference!
Just wanted to say thank you to whoever mentioned prices might go up.
I can Order my next car in a few weeks and on the last Quarters list there was 6 good options now there is only one and i don’t even have an MG dealership near me.We can’t get a Home charger for an EV and the nearest point is a slow charger 23 miles away. There is nothing big enough that is automatic and affordable, £2K for the cheapest van based vehicle is a beyond a joke. I can postpone till next next quarter in July but i fear that will be even worse. I guess those of us living in Rural areas are just forgotten.
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Skoda Yeti 1.6TDI Elegance, Seat Ateca 1.6TDI SE, Citroen C5 Aircross 12 Puretech Flair And Citroen C5 Aircross 12 Puretech C Series 1.2 Puretech Auto 200.000+miles of Happy Motoring.Some good news, although it’s a rarity this quarter, the EV5 has come down AND the GT Line S has appeared with all the unnecessary luxuries.
Other than that the rest of my list has either gone or gone up massively. It can’t be a coincidence that the rises have been loosely around the £1500 figure for many of the EVs?
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I can Order my next car in a few weeks and on the last Quarters list there was 6 good options now there is only one and i don’t even have an MG dealership near me.We can’t get a Home charger for an EV and the nearest point is a slow charger 23 miles away. There is nothing big enough that is automatic and affordable, £2K for the cheapest van based vehicle is a beyond a joke. I can postpone till next next quarter in July but i fear that will be even worse. I guess those of us living in Rural areas are just forgotten.
+Vat in july would sway me if I was to order tbh
I’m leaving the scheme altogether. I will have to give up work as i won’t be able to get there, but fuel and money saved on AP and the money from Pip will just cover the difference but it will cost me myself respect.
Renault Grand Scenic 1.5 dci Dynamic S x2,
Skoda Yeti 1.6TDI Elegance, Seat Ateca 1.6TDI SE, Citroen C5 Aircross 12 Puretech Flair And Citroen C5 Aircross 12 Puretech C Series 1.2 Puretech Auto 200.000+miles of Happy Motoring.I’m leaving the scheme altogether. I will have to give up work as i won’t be able to get there, but fuel and money saved on AP and the money from Pip will just cover the difference but it will cost me myself respect.
This really saddens me. The Motability scheme was set up to support people just like yourself, to enable you to lead as normal a life as possible and, wherever possible, remain in the workplace.
The extortionate APs (on top of the already huge sacrifice of £13,000 benefits), added to the crippling 25p per mile surcharge for those doing over 10,000 miles a year (which many working people will do) is going to cause many others to have similar thoughts.
Sadly, our current government seems utterly incapable of joined up thinking. I have lost count of the number of decisions where it is obvious to everyone, apart from them, that there will be second order consequences. For working disabled people to now feel that it’s better to lead a life on benefits, with the associated lack of self respect that you mention, rather than continuing to contribute to society is truly awful.
Whilst all the adverse changes just announced won’t affect us, as we had decided to leave the scheme prior to the most recent announcements, I remain hopeful that the more that people highlight situations such as this Motability may reconsider the 25p per mile surcharge, which is so far out of line with the market it’s inexcusable.
I’ve been looking around on the private leading sites and there are far better deals than Motability including maintenance. All you have to add is insurance.
We have 3 Motability cars in our household and it looks like none of us will be renewing.
I’ve been looking around on the private leading sites and there are far better deals than Motability including maintenance. All you have to add is insurance. We have 3 Motability cars in our household and it looks like none of us will be renewing.
Well said mate.
The changes will make a big impact on a lot of people. This govt has really dumped on the scheme.
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I am not sure why I look forward to seeing new quarter pricing as ive decided to leave the scheme too. I will let the last year of this lease run but my relationship with motability will sadly end next march. This is my first car too. The constant threats and let downs and the lure of a salary sacrifice scheme mean weighing the options up, I will leave knowing I have a high mileage allowance, no email threats on tyre usage, overseas use if I need it, servicing sorted and a tax break on my salary. Thank you UK government as you’ve eroded a fantastic scheme to a point where it will only support those who have no choice but to use it and be dictated to.
The perverse thing being that I will still get the same payments made to me but tax free to my bank account while then paying less tax to uk gov because of the salary sacrifice rules. It feels like I am cheating the state but the reality is they have cheated all of us.
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Ordered 31/10/23, Delivery 27/3/24I wonder if Motability have done impact assessments on the proposed changes from July 1st and if so what those assessments show. I suspect they haven’t as we can all guess what the outcomes would be. likewise should there also have been risk assessments done on the budgets imposition of VAT & insurance tax on the scheme?
I’m leaving the scheme altogether. I will have to give up work as i won’t be able to get there, but fuel and money saved on AP and the money from Pip will just cover the difference but it will cost me myself respect.
This really saddens me. The Motability scheme was set up to support people just like yourself, to enable you to lead as normal a life as possible and, wherever possible, remain in the workplace. The extortionate APs (on top of the already huge sacrifice of £13,000 benefits), added to the crippling 25p per mile surcharge for those doing over 10,000 miles a year (which many working people will do) is going to cause many others to have similar thoughts. Sadly, our current government seems utterly incapable of joined up thinking. I have lost count of the number of decisions where it is obvious to everyone, apart from them, that there will be second order consequences. For working disabled people to now feel that it’s better to lead a life on benefits, with the associated lack of self respect that you mention, rather than continuing to contribute to society is truly awful. Whilst all the adverse changes just announced won’t affect us, as we had decided to leave the scheme prior to the most recent announcements, I remain hopeful that the more that people highlight situations such as this Motability may reconsider the 25p per mile surcharge, which is so far out of line with the market it’s inexcusable.
Personally I am not so hopeful that enough people will be as concerned about the excess mileage surcharge
Simply because a small minority of private drivers exceed 10,000 miles annually compared to the general population.
I do expect going forward to hear louder voices when it comes to the VAT/Driving/ monitoring App
I am due to renew my lease in Sep and keeping in mind everyone has their own personal cut off point when it comes to scheme changes
My personal cut off points are VAT/Driving/ monitoring App which ever one meets me head on first
As of today my next lease remains unaffected by either but I will leave the scheme if/when either comes into play
So in 3yrs or less
Im off
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@jojo22 Fair points. Different things affect different people.
The 10,000 annual mileage limit wouldn’t affect us as, since retiring, our annual mileage has dropped to around 8,500 miles a year. We’ve never needed more than 2 or 3 tyres during a lease. We’ve never taken a Motability car overseas. We would be exempt from the VAT on the AP from July as the car has a substantial adaptation.
The main reason that we are leaving Motability is that the choice of cars has reduced so much that there isn’t a single car left on the scheme that even remotely appeals to us. We aren’t interested in an EV and we have a PHEV currently that I find to be a faff and a compromise.
It’s fair to say that we are buying a car that is well above anything that would ever be on the scheme now or in the future, so private is the only route, but our previous Motability car was a BMW X1 2.0i, which was nowhere near as expensive as the company cars that I used to drive, but served us fine. I really enjoyed driving it, unlike the Hyundai that we have now that is a great car for people who aren’t in to cars! If modest BMWs were still available on the scheme we could have been tempted to stay with Motability, but we aren’t prepared to pay £13,000 in sacrificed benefits, plus AP, to drive around in an EV or something from China or similar. Life’s too short and luckily we are in a position to make that choice. We also don’t like the stigma that goes with being a scheme customer these days.
Even if the premium brands hadn’t been illogically culled for no other reason than optics, if the black box monitoring eventually gets rolled out to existing customers that could have been another tipping point. My youngest daughter had one for her first year of driving and I was on edge every time that I drove the car!
I think I am inevitably looking for my next and final car on the scheme. I can survive the mileage cuts, we’ve yet to break 15,000 miles on a car we got Feb 1st ‘23. With 60,000 miles allowed Europe wasn’t in our thoughts, I really can’t see that changing when we’re limited to 10k annually. We’re still on the original tyres and I can’t see us suddenly going through a full set plus extras before next Feb.
My problem sits singularly with a faulty tracker that also wants to work when I’m a passenger in any car. I’m happy that I can drive within the criteria as long as the roads are suitably maintained. My issue is that as soon as that box is installed, I’m risking it throwing false data resulting in withdrawal of insurance that sticks with me into the next car and, potentially beyond.
I will be whinging really hard at my MP, he will be aware of the impact the current choices both his Chancellor and Motability are making and just how difficult it makes life for us.
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i have struck lucky i was able to order an ev4 air at the end of feb which will cost me £83.48 a week on wpms with no advance payment. i will still be entitled to 20k a year and will use less than that overall the juke has done 17k. eventhough i cant charge at home the fuel will probabley work out similar to the juke in terms of cost as i will probabley do fewer miles.
but then as my personal finances will have improved if all plans come to fruition i will be able to finance a decent 2nd hand car although i will be 70 by then.
i do wonder what the scheme will be by then and its such a shame as its much needed.
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