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Crucially for some (most?), the Air trim doesn’t have electric seats with memory or an electric tailgate.
No packs or options to add these items either.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicI think, if it were me, I would be onto Kia UK with a strong worded complaint about the croc of shit dealer or person and that my next move if it wernt sorted, I would have no hesitation going to the Ombudsman, as the car is not fit for pupose for the UK as is! Kia states the EV3 supports AC charging with a maximum capacity of 11kW, which includes 3.6kW, 7.4kW. If however, they said a minimum of 11kW, that would of course be a different story, but they don’t. Can’t say I was shock when you said Arnold Clarke.
I’m not sure Kezo.
I’ve just been to the Kia website and sure enough, if you dive deep enough into the technical specs, there is a grid as to what models are suitable for what chargers and how long they take.
The EV3, EV4, EV5 and I think EV9 are not suitable for standard 7.2/7.4kw home wall chargers. Minimum is 11kw. So I think Arnold Clark are correct.
Only the PHEVs like yours and the Niro will charge on 7.4kw chargers.
This is a disastrous move by Kia and it means that the EV5 is off the potentials list for our next car!
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicRead today online about one poor soul who got a new Omoda a couple of weeks back, the car has done 11 miles and the car now has 5 faults already. Won’t move and needs recovery.
A couple of others chimed in with their tales of woe
What looks premium and shiny in the showroom does not necessarily mean reliability in service.
At least do a bit of research before wanting a car which may or may not come on the scheme.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicRecuperation braking do you mean regeneration braking.. YOU SHOULD NOT BE USING THIS AS A MEANS OF EMERGENCY OR NORMAL BRAKING THIS IS TO RECHARGE YOUR BATTERY AS YOU SLOW DOWN THAT’S WHY THE BRAKE LIGHTS COME ON BECAUSE IT DOES SLOW DOWN QUICKER.. THIS IS DANGEROUS DRIVING AND MUST STOP.. IF YOU ARE UNSURE ASK GOOGLE…..
I don’t know if you already have an electric vehicle, but you may benefit from further driving coaching if you think the above nonsense.
Disregarding emergency braking which is different entirely, regen braking is the smoothest most efficient way of driving an electric car. Some people find they struggle to adapt to it or don’t like it
I’ve been an Advanced Driver for 40 years so driving smoothly was kind of instilled in me.
My BMW i4 has a setting called Adaptive Regenerative Braking and in 90% of driving conditions it’s perfect for slowing down for junctions, roundabouts, hazards and traffic ahead. Yes the brake lights come on as said above.
If you’re skilled with the controls, you can moderate the regenerative braking simply by easing off the throttle, but not completely relaxing it. There’s a lot of driving satisfaction and pleasure to be gained by doing this.
However, if you’re not interested in driving and just want to get jerkily from A to B, switch off regen and keep prodding that brake pedal!
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicPity they couldn’t do the same for us.
Don’t worry Belfast, I believe the Chinese makes are on to that 😆😆
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicI think you missed the tongue in cheek bit.
Having said that the 1256cc engine in the old Viva was a weak wheezy old thing and is definitely not the basis of any modern engine!
In 1978 my then girlfriend’s mother had one and it struggled to get up Greenhow Hill in “Noth Yocksher” without dropping to second gear.
Even my elderly Austin 1100 could just about manage it in third.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronic4WD or AWD + summer tyres = no better than 2WD
2WD + winter tyres = much better grip
4WD + winter tyres = best grip in snow.
A common misconception and it always makes me smile when someone says “I need a 4WD because I live at the bottom of a steep hill with hairpin bends”
Err, no you don’t 😆
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicI’m confused.
You asked the same question the other day. Myself and @Glos Guy provided answers, much along the lines of Kezo’s.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronichi – would it be worthwhile terminating my lease early and foregoing the GCB so i dont get hit with the Vat charge on the upfront payment & most importantly will motobility let me do it
Possibly. It’s certainly worth asking the question.
I think there’ll be a few on here thinking the same thing. As someone else said, Motability may stop this from happening if too many try and do the same thing.
In addition to the loss of the GCB, there will be an early termination fee of £250. You usually need a medical reason, like a change in your disability, or for the car to be an absolute lemon with on-going mechanical or electrical problems.
Having said that, it’s worth having a conversation with someone at Motability to sound them out.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronicdobbies chesterfield now has 150kw chargers at 55p. so they would be my go to local charger and it looks like you can subscribe and get it as low as 39p not sure yet of the conditions for that. basically it would be easy to charge whilst mooching around
@Mitch, we’ve holidayed in Barlow (two great foody pubs!) for the last two years. In 2024 the best value was at the football ground in Chesterfield, but in 2025, I found new chargers at Arnold Clark. These are also 53p or 55p , but Dobbies sounds as good if not better. At Arnold Clark in September, I was the only car ever charging but this might have been down to the fact that someone had chopped off the cables of 10 of them!2024 - BMW i4 Grand Coupe eDrive 35 Sport
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicThe Jeep Compass has a certain rugged appeal I suppose (but not the BEV at £7k), but I’m not sure I could trust a company who can’t be bothered to spell check their own website!
Apparently the Altitude trim has “vinly” seats and “line” change assist. 🤦
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicIt’s crackers when the Enyaq Coupe is banned but the ID5 isn’t. Just shows how bonkers this government is.
I think the decision about coupes and convertibles was made by Motability themselves and nothing to do with the government – purely for “optics” of course.
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We will still get the cheap overnight rate outside the 23:30 to 05:30 period when Octopus allow, so it’s not a strict 6 hours still.
Brought in because people were gaming the system.
Big Changes? Not so much.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronic£8k for a Fiat in drag!
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicThis is from the Governments fuel duty site. How much is fuel duty. The fuel duty rate in the UK is 52.95 per litre for petrol and diesel. This rate was cut in 2022 and has now been extended for the 2025-2026 tax year. This rate does not include VAT. Based on an average of 36 miles per gallon (MPG) a petrol car’s per-mile fuel duty cost currenty reach 7p. However , diesel vehicles, with an average of 43mpg, achieve a cost per mile of 6p. Hybrids, which have an average of around 59mpg, have a per-mile cost of 4p. 26 Nov 2025
So EV driver will be paying 3p per mile plus the cost to charge, as I can charge up at home 7 1/5 pence a kWh, those less fortunate 27/28 pence a kWh and those using public chargers 50/80 pence a kWh So my understanding in theory based on the 3 pence a mile I would be better of with a hybrid using fossil fuel than a EV, or even a diesel or petrol ?
No @Oscarmax, you’re only looking at the fuel duty cost, not the overall price per litre/gallon.
On my cheap Octopus rate, I pay 6.7p per kWh, standard rate 29p per kWh.
That translates into a cost per mile of between 1.8p and 2.2p depending on the weather/efficiency.
My equivalent cost for my last car, a Volvo XC40 which averaged 34 MPG, was 18p per mile.
I’ve just costed an ICE car doing 45MPG (£1.45/litre) at 14.3p/mile.
So even taking into account the 3p per mile penalty coming in 2028, an EV is far cheaper to run as long as you can charge at home on the cheap rate.
As @Glos Guy says, this 3p per mile will probably escalate afterwards, but who knows what the price of diesel and petrol will be by then?
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicI was reading in Car Dealer magazine that some of the ousted manufacturers are absolutely livid and are considering a legal challenge.
I don’t know if there’s any basis for this, but it just shows that the only winners are the haters of the Motability scheme.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicThe service manager at my Citroen Dealer was telling me Motability wants videos now of any jobs that needs doing before authorisation including wipers.
So for tyres, we have to film ourselves sliding sideways into a snow bank 😆
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicBetween the Niro and the Kuga the Kuga is just not in the same class. The Niro and Kona are built on the same base, Hyundai and KIA are sister companies so the cars are fairly similar. I’d have a look at both and see which you prefer.
Nobody mentioned the Kuga, Mark 😂
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicHi Bandit, Thanks yes I do. I will try that tomorrow. I must say that a 40k car that relies on a12v battery which doesn’t charge when the car is charging is not quite what I was expecting
. Charging the battery on my 1999 Granvia I accept needs doing occasionally. Tech ???All EVs rely on having a strong 12v battery. As far as I know, they only charge when the car is being driven (just like an ICE car), so there could be some merit in charging it up.
With regards to your main charging problem, I’m not sure I can add much. However, with my combination of BMW i4, Octopus Energy and an Ohme charger, you have to set the schedule with the Ohme app, which allows Octopus to fully control the time slots and schedule. The settings in the car’s charging schedules have to be turned off.
I don’t know if this would work with your combination of charger/electricity provider, but I hope you can sort it out.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicDon’t need to check my maths, they’re a new install, the holiday park hasn’t decided on their rate yet, the 30p is the connection fee, I asked in reception.
So you got no charge for 30p?
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicPresumably you mean 30p per kWh? That’s outstanding.
If you mean 30kw cost you 30p, I’d be inclined to check your Maths!
30kwh on a home charger on the cheap overnight rate would cost me £2.00, so I’d be amazed at 30p unless they’ve been set up incorrectly.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-Tronic“The XC40 will be thirsty in comparison” Maybe, but much more comfortable
The suspension on the XC40 is sublime (stick with 18″ wheels) but it still turns in and handles nicely.A few years ago a number of forum contributors who had taken delivery of XC40s were complaining about poor seat comfort!
Yes it affected a small number of earlier cars with the Pro pack. For some reason, the rear of the seat base was too thin and owners could feel the seat frame. Volvo were poor at putting it right as well.
However this is 5 years ago and the problem has long since been resolved.
Our standard seats with heat and electric memory were brilliant and almost as good as those in a Saab 9000 I had in the 90s!
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicI’ve read somewhere that EV drivers will have to report their annual mileage and a charge will be made on that. Any discrepancies will be picked up at the 3 year stage at MOT time, and a bill or refund issued.
If 3p per mile is added, that would make the cost of our BMW between 4.8p and 5.3p per mile, depending on weather.
A petrol powered car averaging 40 MPG costs 15p per mile to run by comparison.
Of course, as I’ve always said, if you can’t charge cheaply at home FORGET AN EV. The extra 3p per mile will be even more of a disincentive. I’ve recently seen chargers on the A1 costing £0.97 per kWh, which is absolute highway robbery.
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2017 - Audi Q3 TFSi Sport S-TronicIf it comes in, can the government introduce it retrospective. It’s taxing miles driven before the tax comes in. My car is 2 and half years old will I need to pay tax on the miles already covered?
No, not a chance.
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