[72 dudes]

Masky wrote:

Does anyone know how much the enyaq sport line was at it’s cheapest?

I don’t want to know, I might get depressed 😆

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Agree @Woodpecker.

In fact, I’d go a step further. Increase Income Tax a few % on the basic rate, same on the middle rate.

More for defence, NHS, other public services.

When I entered the workforce in the early ’80s, the basic rate was 25%.

Under a Tory government.

I think we’ve had enough years of ” lower taxes” to understand that they don’t necessarily mean consumers spend more to grow the economy.

Having said that, Uber Eats, Deliveroo, Evri etc are doing well to support the immigrants which Southamman is obsessed with 😆

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I think Xpeng’s main issue is going to be lack of dealers. I’m in Suffolk and the nearest dealer is 95 miles or just under 2 hours away in Northampton.

Non starter for me.

I think the Changan Deepal is probably a nicer car but again the nearest dealer is an hour away. That’s just about doable.

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The SEL Plus is back on the scheme after the tidy up.

Happy days! Hoping it remains and at a reasonable price by the end of the year

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Glos Guy wrote:

Nice to see a new car, but are those performance figures correct? How can a 2.5 litre engine only output 139 hp and deliver a 0-62 time that is more than 10 seconds? Ford manage 155 hp out of a 1.0 litre!

They are and they’re pathetic 😆

The old 2 litre had 145 BHP and was rather lethargic!

As Kezo says, there’s another UK version of that engine in the CX-30, which puts out 184 BHP.

Only the 139 version is available for the CX-5 so far, which seems a strange decision.

Worse, combined economy is 40.4 with 30 expected around town 🤦

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shaan200 wrote:

I am just warning you and it might be a non issue, but sometimes they test drive you in the sportline 85x which is AWD, theres a decent differnet in the ride quality between the two as even at higher speeds between the two the AWD made is far more supportive.

Absolutely.

If I can’t test drive the exact model, or failing that, a car with the same engine/motor, suspension but with a slightly different trim level, I go somewhere else.

Also, many of the higher spec models have the adaptive suspension pack added which would probably make a more significant difference than part time 4WD would.

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Menorca Mike wrote:

 

has it got reverse camera and front rear parking sensors on basic model ?

Yes, Mike.

The SEL base model is really well equipped including heated seats, auto tailgate, only lacking electrically adjustable seats and lumbar (which some people are not bothered about, Phaedra 😆)

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Oscarmax wrote:

72 dudes wrote:

The SEL has nearly everything you’d want and is a bargain at £999. I’m interested in how you found the ride quality, how quiet it was, seat comfort after during the drive, road noise etc??

I was bit surprised ride quality very smooth, steering well balanced and responsive, seat as good and supportive as my Suzuki Across (Toyota RAV4 PHEV), road and tyre noise very quiet, it is not as well built as the Suzuki Across however it is only £999.

Thanks @Oscarmax

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The SEL has nearly everything you’d want and is a bargain at £999.

I’m interested in how you found the ride quality, how quiet it was, seat comfort after during the drive, road noise etc??

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Phaedra wrote:

If it’s the Suzuki eVitara you’ve looked at the equivalent trim level to the SEL Enyaq is only £499 (eVitara Motion with 61kWh battery, the 49kWh version is £0).

I think Oscarmax is referring to his current A-Cross @Phaedra

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I see they’ve messed around with trim level and the combination of packs available again 🤦

Before July 1st, my chosen model would have been 85 SEL with the Plus Pack and the Suite pack £3950.

On July 1st, you could only choose one of the packs, Suite or Plus, both at £2499.

Okay, not a problem, the Plus is more important to us, as it’s the electric memory seats and LED matrix headlights plus niceties like acoustic glass we wanted (the Plus Pack basically turns the SEL into the Edition).

The Suite allowed the option of cognac colour pretend leather seats with massage function, a nice-to-have but far from essential.

Now I see the Plus Pack has disappeared altogether today!

To get what we want, the Edition model is £5499.

Or, would Motability deign to allow us to order the base SEL and add the Plus Pack ourselves for a grand total of £3499?

It’s all a bit academic as we can’t order until December, but Mrs 72 dudes is getting very confused 😆

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@Glos Guy and @kezo have given comprehensive answers along with @Brydo.

Nevertheless I’ll jump in with my own experiences!

Along with Mrs 72 dudes’ BMW i4, I also have my own 2024 Mazda MX30 R-EV on a 3 year PCP deal. I run my own cat care and sitting company (CatManDo!)where I travel around the local area to various moggie’s houses to visit them.

The Mazda is unique in having a small rotary engine of 830cc, which doesn’t drive the wheels, but acts as a backup charger. The car is therefore primarily an EV, but is classed as a PHEV.

Maximum range in summer is low 50s, dropping to around 30 on cold winter days.

Most of my daily journeys are less than 50 miles, so with a 7Kwh home charger, the car is incredibly economical to run.

Unlike the Tucson mentioned above, you can run the battery down to zero without the engine kicking in. It can also be used as a hybrid, where the engine starts to cut in and out at around 40% charge level. You can also change the battery using the rotary engine which hums away in the background, but this is definitely not economical!

In 7000 miles, I’ve put £190 worth of petrol in, the rest being cheap overnight and occasional free daytime electricity via Octopus,

It takes less than 3 hours to charge the 17.8 kWh battery and this costs me about £1.

So it really works for me as a second car. As a main car, not so much.

I guess what I’m saying is that not all PHEVs are the same. You need to look at battery size and range on pure electric, as well as what the MPG is on petrol alone once the battery is depleted.

On the other hand if the majority of your journeys are less than 40 to 50 miles per day, you’ll be laughing.

If plugging in overnight with a granny charger might become a faff, then stick to a full self charging hybrid.

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All the best @BigDave, hope all goes well.

Thanks for your posts detailing the latest offers, they’re an absolute godsend for so many people on here.

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Good correspondence JD, although I suspect it will be met with a standard answer of these are the new rules and we can’t make exceptions.

It seems to me that Motability have no staff members who know anything about cars, tyre brands or tyre wear or any of the nuances between different marques of car manufacturers. Pure bean counters ( with respect to those on here who held senior positions in Accounting and Finance!)

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Menorca Mike wrote:

The body shop hasn’t saw it yet just the service adviser thought it was an insurance job

These things happen Mike, don’t beat yourself up.

Yes, it will be an insurance job. As the passenger door doesn’t open, it could be that the hinges are damaged, the door metal is warped, or merely the damage to the cladding is preventing it from opening.

All you can do is wait until next week knowing that it will be put right.

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MFillingham wrote:

72 dudes wrote:

Thanks @MFillingham, that’s useful as we’ve not even seen the Air trim so far.

Electric memory seats are important to us, so it’s a shame Kia don’t offer this as an option on the Air. If we stay on the scheme, the Enyaq SEL Plus Suite is our current favourite of a not very wide choice.

Why memory seats? .

I like to return to the exact same driving position after my 4ft 11 wife has moved the seat up, forward, upright etc 😆

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Thanks @MFillingham, that’s useful as we’ve not even seen the Air trim so far.

Electric memory seats are important to us, so it’s a shame Kia don’t offer this as an option on the Air.

If we stay on the scheme, the Enyaq SEL Plus Suite is our current favourite of a not very wide choice.

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BIYT wrote:

To say on average 15k per person over the 3 years, of the 200,000 @25p per mile =£3750 each x 200,000 = £750m The purpose of this charity funded by the government is to provide disability vehicles to people who qualify This is a joke and with the government now taxing the crap out of cars ap and dictating what type of cars we can have, but they swan around in jags, range rovers and the like. This needs a serious looking into now and a new fit for purpose method introducing.

I agree with the sentiment, but to be clear, it was Motability who took the premium cars off the list, dropped the number available to 800 and imposed the mileage limit, higher APs and the ridiculous Drive Smart.

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Well, it means that over 200,000 Motability customers who do over 10k per annum will end up paying large amounts of excess mileage charge. This is clearly not fair if they’re using their car to commute to work or to attend multiple medical appointments each week.

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Oscarmax wrote:

After driving 1 hour how long do they expect you to take break, 15 minutes, 30 minutes, plus this account for another journey you are only allowed 6 journeys per day.

Fortunately this isn’t true Oscarmax

You can drive for as long as you like and take more than 6 journeys per day. But if you do, it will not earn you a red mark, rather you will not get rewards (and frankly who gives a ****)

I’m more concerned about the reports of false swerving, speeding and harsh braking which never occurred.

Yesterday I read a report of a couple whose car had apparently veered off the motorway, accelerated to a high speed and took off over trees before coming back down on the road they were on. According to the Drive smart data. It seems this is the result of temporarily losing signal on the devices.

Disability lawyers are looking into it with a view to getting the thing overturned, but we’ll see!

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Well done Mark. It seems as though you covered the majority of important points.

Just to add a little whimsical madness, I saw a Facebook post a few hours ago, where Drive Smart had tracked a Motability user around Tesco’s.

If that doesn’t demonstrate that this ridiculous App is not fit for purpose, I don’t know what will.

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mikep wrote:

perhaps I should have been clearer. my anticipated mileage this lease will be 42000 miles. if this was to happen with my new lease, post july 2026 then at the end of my new lease it would cost me an additional £3000. THIS IS NOT WITH MY CURRENT LEASE, IT WILL BE WITH A NEW VEHICLE POST JULY 2026

Correct. So then you will have to make a choice. Pay the £3000 excess mileage or leave the scheme before that new, post July 2026 lease starts.

It might be unfair and wrong, but it’s been very clear for a while now.

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Jojoe wrote:

The Satnav on our Enyaq constantly tells us a 30 zone is a 20, it’s incorrect, how many red marks would we get for that?

In this case, you’d be going well under the speed limit, so no red marks 😉

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GaryV wrote:

Are we not supposed to do donuts?

Only the Krispy Kreme variety

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Glos Guy wrote:

Just to clarify my last post, I absolutely get the reasons why people choose an EV, especially if they are Motability customers. My query (in relation to the question posed) was about the sense of private buyers going out and buying an EV purely because of the current Middle East crisis. Anyhow, I’ve found out that EV sales in the U.K. rose 24% in March. ZEV mandates for 2026 are 18% higher than 2025 so, presumably, manufacturers would have been geared up for that. Including the March figures, EV sales for the first 3 months of 2026 were only 23% of new car sales, versus the ZEV mandate target of 33% for 2026, so I should think that the recent uplift is probably taken care of by excess supply verses previously suppressed demand? So, to attempt to answer the question posed, I don’t think that the additional demand for EVs will, in itself, cause supply problems, but the longer that the crisis goes on (and the Strait of Hormuz remains closed) then any manufacturing industry is liable to face issues

You say “only 23% of new car sales” were EVs, and certainly less than the ZEV target, but the bigger picture is that it’s the fastest growing category after PHEVs. Diesel vehicle sales continue to slide.

The more surprising figure is that YTD, private sales account for 42% of the market.

The figures don’t drill down to fuel type by sales type, but it’s a fair assumption that private EV sales are also on the increase.

I was quite surprised that the Jaecoo 7 was the best selling car in March and Number 2 YTD! Commonly known as the TEMU Range Rover.

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