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1. Like above dealer is far enough away that I cba to drive to them and do it myself. 2. Also like above next will be either BEV or petrol!
Maybe they will offer Soviet era Ladas on the scheme then?
I’d be well up for a Niva (provided it was auto which I think they’re now finally doing). Brilliant utilitarian 4×4!
Martinod, yes & no I suspect. Whilst motability will never (imho) return to the pre Daily Fail crusade days things will, at some point, start to improve again. You have to remember, apart from the extras like ins, breakdown, tyres & a very good mileage allowance, they are just another lease company and subject to all the external factors the others are. When (I choose to be positive and think when not if) things start to return to something more like what we used to consider normal then I’m sure the scheme will do the same.
Struth, is that 4.52 consumed despite regening 2.1 so if you had zero regen you’d have consumed 6.62? If so then it certainly highlights the importance of researching the regen capabilities of your prospective vehicle as well as it’s other strengths and weaknesses.
If you ……………. I had the same initial anxiety in the UK, but given the range (kona) its not a problem and my experiences, save ‘genie’ have all been positive.
Encouraging to know. I was watching a 1000km run in Norway yesterday, oh if only we had infrastructure like that!
e-C4 is definitely on my radar for the next vehicle (and currently top of my initial shortlist). I know others, especially the Kona, offer more range but it’s the comfort emphasis of Citroen that is most key these days. Also, the e-C4 has good quick charge ability so on the few occasions I will need to do 200+ miles journeys then one decent coffee stop should be enough (to get back up to 80%). There are quite a few long range tests on the tube showing how the quick charge times offset the lower range over long journeys and made the journey time shorter in end.
Time is the thing I’m wealthiest in nowadays anyway, so having to factor in an extra coffee stop on the odd occasion is fine, as I said, comfort! Plus I think it’s a nice looking car and if, for some reason, I don’t go EV next time then the ICE C4 is top of my ICE shortlist!
Interested to see the PHEV version details when more is known. If they can be as good getting (proportional) range out of it as they are with their BEVs (say realistic 40-45 mile range rather than the 30-35 typically quoted currently) then that’d do me, with the ease and speed of conventional fuelling for the 2 or 3 500m round trips each year.
Lovely car Lee, these are currently on my early shortlist for next year’s replacement. I’m interested to know if you found much difference access wise (hopefully easier) than the Cactus? I liked the Cactus but found both seat and roof too low for everyday use. I’m hoping the C4 brings an improvement.
@Brydo I have seen the thread 👍 I just shoved this up as it was a good looksy at it by Johnny.
I’m all for more and more of these, keep the existing manufacturers on their toes and keep prices competitive!
Don’t be suckered in by the anti SUV lobby. The only dimension that SUV’s are bigger than cars is height, and that makes not a jot of difference to the space that they take up on the roads!
Not suckered in Glos Guy, just bored of all the sameyness of suv after suv. I’m hoping that BEV brings some push the envelope designs and ideas but so far they just seem to be intent on electric suvs!
Does it have to be an SUV landyman? My knee and other parts do like the access height of an SUV (well, most of ’em) but tbh even I’m a bit fed up of roads clogged full of ’em! I’ve quite a hankering for a good ol’ fashion estate car and currently quite like the look (and reviews) of the Leon Tourer PHEV and the MG5 BEV, though the range needs to get up a bit on that first to really be considered. The Leon definitely though.
Them’s decent figures indeed. You hear a lot about PHEV’s really getting clobbered on the mpg front once you have to use the ICE on it’s own for a big miles journey. Most of our journeys are local, apart from a few 200+ each way per year. Still undecided about PHEV or BEV, still got a year yet, plenty can change in that time!
Good real world feedback Wigwam, cheers. Have you done any long journeys in it yet? If so how did you find the ICE performance and mpg?
I would suggest that you should contact VW again and ask them why your digital screen is showing the speed in kilometres and not miles per hour. It might have something to do with your onboard computer and fuel sensor playing up.
Both my previous Golf and the current Sharan have that. Iirc from when I looked into it, it was because both mph & kmh are required to be visible, on old analogue dials they had dual markings but on the new digital dials they display the selected unit only and so the other unit is displayed in the centre bit.
it’s not like you have to back order the stuff from China by sea!
Give it time Bandit
Plenty of sheep round these parts, just train a few to just pee directly in the tank! 😂
Ahh well, it got 10L down its throat and shut up for now. Gawd knows why it pipes up with 1500miles to go, it’s not like you have to back order the stuff from China by sea!
Good thought @Glos Guy. @kbfern does your fuel consumption read in MPG or L/100k (or whatever it is the metric uses)?
The issue isn’t so much left or right foot braking but more one foot v. two feet. As has already been mentioned plenty of people have the use of only the left foot, which is fine because the foot is only going to be pressing one pedal at a time. And that’s the point, those who build the muscle memory of left foot braking and right foot accelerating stand a very good chance, when the chips are down and instinct kicks in, of stamping on the brake with one foot while stamping on the accelerator with the other, often with disastrous consequences. By maintaining the foot off accelerator onto brake instinct (and relearning to keep the clutch foot doing nothing, which is learnt very quickly) you eliminate this, very real, possibility.
Thanks @Intranicity. I figured it might be something along those lines. I’m not due to change until Oct next year but definitely looking to go EV and heartening to see this kind of deal cropping up Let’s hope they continue and others join in!!
Sound choice. Tbh, if I was currently in the order/change phase I think I’d be snapping that current offer up as well!
What’s the difference between the two 150kW Premiums? I can see it’s the 10.5kW charger, but what is that actually referring to, what does the extra 100 quid get you and is it worth it?
Tbh, I think that in 3-5 years all the underlying tech will be shared/copied/back-engineered etc and most differentiation will be along the same lines as with ICE. The Chinese are, on one hand, similar to Japan of the 60s/70s where they are offering a lot for not much and slowly growing a good value reputation, but on the other hand they have such a huge home market to feed plus politically they’re perhaps not as accepted by Western markets?
Interestingly, I’ve just read an AutoExpress article that came up in my feed that was talking about Nissan and whether they gained an early adopter advantage from the Leaf? One of the points raised was that in terms of new models etc you might think not but that the real advantage is in the decade of data they already have, pertaining to EV manufacture, supply, servicing etc.
