Tories to scrap petrol car ban if they win next election

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    joss
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      Kemi Badenoch says the Conservatives will scrap the ban on petrol and diesel vehicles due to come into force in the UK if they win the next election.

      Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, external, the Conservative Party leader said the Zero Emission Vehicle mandate (ZEV) was a “well-meaning but ultimately destructive piece of legislation”.

      From 2030, all new cars will have to be electric or hybrid as part of government efforts to meet a legally binding aim of achieving “net zero” by 2050.

      The Conservative leader’s comments come after her meeting with Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who has lobbied the EU to water down its own plans for a ban.

      Read more…  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36z84ej6e0o

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    • #324523
      Glos Guy
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        A very sensible move. Let the market determine the pace of the switch to EVs, rather than arbitrary targets which consumers refuse to follow and results in an adverse effect on the whole market – and the economy. The only issue is that the Conservatives don’t stand any chance of forming the next government, other than in a coalition with Reform UK. However, the way that this government is going, that is a very real possibility!

        #324524
        Oscarmax
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          I agree 100%, a Conservative/Reform coalition could work and balance each other out.

          Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

          #324525
          kezo
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            Labour will be awakward and delay changing course f0r as long as they can, but will understand the risk to the UK if it chose to proceed alone.

            Should a UK stick to a 2030 deadline, many UK car manufacturers that export a large portion of their output to continental markets could face serious difficulties. They might be forced to operate dual-track production lines: one for EVs to satisfy domestic rules and another to produce petrol/diesel or hybrid cars for export. This is because the EU is our biggest export market fo new cars 60% and the EU remains are largest import markets for new cars c.70%.

            However, I don’t expect Labour to change anything too quickly, arguing sticking to the path is the right choice💰, but it will ultimately have to give way and it will be someone elses fault!

            I have been watching Bad-enoch for sometime now and she is nothing more than an “opposite” noddy dog who just say the opposite for politic points, rather than have any thought wats shes agreeing to!

             

            #324526
            Jojoe
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              I was listening to a news item today on LBC that suggested keeping the current ICE ban at 2030 could encourage Chinese EV manufacturers to set up in the UK to help them access the EU market, especially with the EU considering pushing their ban back beyond 2035.

              Enyaq EV

              #324528
              kezo
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                I was listening to a news item today on LBC that suggested keeping the current ICE ban at 2030 could encourage Chinese EV manufacturers to set up in the UK to help them access the EU market, especially with the EU considering pushing their ban back beyond 2035.

                Theres still the matter of leggacy manufacturers being a a disadvantage to the EU and would push hard to fall in line with 2020 as they are openly struggling.

                Whis’t the UK& EU both have a strong understanding as each other largest automotive export market. We are however still a third country and China dumping manufacturing here would still be open to huge tariffs exporting to the EU, which is the reason BYD chose a plant in Spain inside the EU over us in the first place

                The announcement will slow down the transition to electric, which would leave our leggacy manufacturers wide open with the potential of loosing made in britain!

                #324532
                MickC
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                  I stopped reading when i saw IF the Tories win the next GE.

                   

                  Farmers have begun growing olives in the UK.   https://www.instagram.com/p/DR9Ww1SDIhD/

                   

                  #324535
                  wmcforum
                  Which Mobility Car

                    Shaken and stirred.

                    #324536
                    Spyder
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                      Never Trust a Tory.

                      I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!

                      #324538
                      Glos Guy
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                        Never Trust a Tory. I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!

                        🤣 Sadly, none of the parties can be trusted. The current lot promised not to increase taxes and NI yet have done both. As they say, you can tell when a politician is lying as their lips are moving 😂

                        #324539
                        Spyder
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                          Never Trust a Tory. I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!

                          🤣 Sadly, none of the parties can be trusted. The current lot promised not to increase taxes and NI yet have done both. As they say, you can tell when a politician is lying as their lips are moving 😂

                          You are, of course, spot on!

                          #324540
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                            The EU is seeing sense in that the petrol car ban is futile and fiat due people not buying EVS, they caught on that they are not fit for purpose except short journeys or around town Fiat are saying or stellantis  are saying that Abarth club are not happy so they are thinking of a hybrid Abarth which would be good. I am not against EVS but hey low emission hybrid non plug in make more sense and as EU also are saying due to low take up of EV that petrols should go on and give people choice a ban is ridiculous.

                            #324541
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                              That is an interesting decision reported by Harry’s Garage! After four years with an electric vehicle, the YouTube channel’s host, Harry Metcalfe, decided to return to a diesel car [1].
                              He detailed the reasons for his switch, which included a desire for greater flexibility for long-distance travel and towing without the need for frequent charging stops [1]. While many car owners are switching to EVs, his move highlights that the charging infrastructure and vehicle ranges still present practical challenges for specific use cases like heavy towing or frequent long journeys [1].
                              You can likely find the full explanation and review on the Harry’s Garage YouTube channel or other automotive news outlets that covered the story.

                              #324542
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                                The thing that has not been talked about by these silly politician’s is not everyone can have a plug in car and this has not been addressed hybrids are great so lets see a rechargeable fuel car that does not need plug in at home and this maybe the future not bans choice comes to mind which even Motability now is not allowing.

                                #324546
                                Oscarmax
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                                  Never Trust a Tory. I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!

                                  🤣 Sadly, none of the parties can be trusted. The current lot promised not to increase taxes and NI yet have done both. As they say, you can tell when a politician is lying as their lips are moving 😂

                                  That is something we all can agree on.

                                  Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                  #324560
                                  Mossfinn
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                                    From the recent news it appears that the EU is going to drop the mandate completely so it won’t matter who is in power, they will be bound to follow.

                                    As a Northern Ireland resident, we are bound by EU car regulations so it won’t matter to us if GB follow.

                                    #324562
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                                      Never Trust a Tory. I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!

                                      I doubt that bars you from entering nowadays! Go for it, if it means world peace I’ll vote for you!

                                      #324567
                                      Ant3
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                                        I agree 100%, a Conservative/Reform coalition could work and balance each other out.

                                        Heaven help us. If that load of racist, Russian-funded extremists get into power, then Motability cars will be the least of our worries.

                                        #324569
                                        Oscarmax
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                                          I agree 100%, a Conservative/Reform coalition could work and balance each other out.

                                          Heaven help us. If that load of racist, Russian-funded extremists get into power, then Motability cars will be the least of our worries.

                                          You cannot call someone a racist because you disagree with them, that is narrow minded and negative. before you comment my parents were Asian.

                                          Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                          #324574
                                          Ant3
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                                            I agree 100%, a Conservative/Reform coalition could work and balance each other out.

                                            Heaven help us. If that load of racist, Russian-funded extremists get into power, then Motability cars will be the least of our worries.

                                            You cannot call someone a racist because you disagree with them, that is narrow minded and negative. before you comment my parents were Asian.

                                            At no point did I do that. Clearly I was referring to the Reform party, not you.

                                            #324575
                                            Oscarmax
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                                              Ant I totally except it was not aim at me, but yes you cannot call Reform racist for starting what some of the public are voicing, unfortunately all parties have some questionable members

                                              Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                              #324577
                                              Mossfinn
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                                                Ant I totally except it was not aim at me, but yes you cannot call Reform racist for starting what some of the public are voicing, unfortunately all parties have some questionable members

                                                I would say that Ant aimed nothing at you, he was clearly talking about the Reform Party.
                                                I agree that you cannot brand a party by its lunatic fringe but when the leadership is racist to its core then that’s a different matter.

                                                If these people get near power, Motability will no longer exist in any form we recognise it as now.

                                                #324579
                                                Oscarmax
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                                                  It would appear we are not safe from any of the polical parties, they are coming for us because we are any easy target, all parties give the ‘huff and the puff and I will blow your house down’ but when they are in power all this bluster magically disappeared and we end up with much of the same.

                                                  Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

                                                  #324580
                                                  Glos Guy
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                                                    It would appear we are not safe from any of the political parties.

                                                    I’m inclined to agree. I think that the only potential outcomes at the next general election are a Reform majority, or a coalition formed of either Reform & Tories, or Labour & tbc (Green, Lib Dem or whoever would keep them in power). On that basis, all those primary parties have Motability in their sights, so I fear that big changes are coming.

                                                    We will most likely leave the scheme, but primarily this is due to the lack of choice (especially the illogical removal of premium brands) and the stigma now associated with being a scheme customer. As my wife is a full time wheelchair user, and we have to have a person hoist to get her in and out of the car, I’m confident that she would retain eligibility to join the scheme under any of the political parties, but if her eligibility was as a result of a mental health condition then I’d be very concerned, as I think that all the major parties have this aspect in their sights.

                                                    #324581
                                                    Ant3
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                                                      Ant I totally except it was not aim at me, but yes you cannot call Reform racist for starting what some of the public are voicing

                                                      Why not? That’s what it is, racism pure and simple. Racism needs to be called out, whether its coming from a political party or the public. To suggest that Reform are in some way innocent of it because they are merely ‘stating what some of the public are voicing’ is (putting it politely) nonsensical.

                                                      To bring it back more on-topic for this forum, as Mossfinn infers, if anyone values their Motability car then they should be giving these snakes a very wide berth.

                                                       

                                                      #324582
                                                      Oscarmax
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                                                        Agree there is no place for racism I was born in 1956 in those days it was riff, how every what is worse is a closet racist who quite stab you in the back. Reform has some unsavoury members, unfortunately it is the general public who voted them in, hopefully by the time comes to the next election they will be removed from the party. As stated Conservatives and Reform may balance each other out.

                                                        I vote Conservative as I don’t trust labour, however, they spent the last few years self destructed spitefull infighting, I did not even bother to vote.

                                                        Labour Mr Timms has not finished with us yet.

                                                        Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.

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