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As per title, what did you order?
An Enyaq sportline
Doing plenty of research in readiness for an EV.
Currently with Eon on a “regular” fixed rate but with 1st choice car (Enyaq) + Ohme charger I’m eligible for their drive smart tariff at 6.5p off peak & 32p peak. Rough, educated calculations I’m looking at around £115/month bill.
They also have a non smart tariff where off peak is 7.5p and using same figures for estimate the monthly electricity would be around £125.
But, I’m coming across loads of problems people have with smart tariffs, ranging from won’t charge, not getting off peak rates, having to go in 1 app to stop charge so smart tariff can do it’s thing.
Currently pay £100/month so looking at cost of running an EV between £15 & £25 (both way cheaper than what I currently spent on petrol so I’m wondering if the extra £10 less is worth the hassle.
The impression I get is issues arise due to multiple charging apps for car, charger & electric supplier.
Issues don’t seem to be just Eon as seen similar problems with Octopus IOG.
How are people here finding things?
I understand its causing havoc with some forem members cars
Just been looking on reddit and some stating that not only do you get marked down for hard acceleration braking and cornering but also driving more than an hour, doing too many journeys in a day (6 even if short). Also a curfew and if your score is too low it can affect your chances of continuing to lease.
Not sure how accurate this all is, or just scaremongering.
I do have my 26 year old son on ATM but only as a just in case of an emergency and he hasn’t driven my car since July 24 so I think I’ll be removing him.
So to keep a MB car we can lease a car at newly inflated prices but to keep it, it really needs to sit on drive for 3 years or only be driven by Miss Daisy at such low speeds it causes road rage and accidents 😀
I received an email this morning from MB saying MOT is due. It’s not due until 28th April. They’re getting keen. End of last car lease they contacted me about 2 months before.
Also, since when have they wanted Kwikfit to do. MOT’s? Always used to be main dealer as far as I’m aware.
So does it have to be Kwikfit or can we use any MOT centre, we have a great place 3 miles away whereas nearest Kwikfit is about 11.
Finally, what’s the crack if dealer contacts around the 3 year period stating service is due.
Out of interest. What does the extra £5750 on the Advance Payment over the entry level Enyaq get you?
IMHO looks are 1, all the trim is black. Nice looking 20″ alloys. Dual motor so awd. Interior nicer (again my opinion) with alcantara sports seats then it’s got the Maxx pack which is £1700 option over regular sportline so things like HUD, remote parking, remote moving car with fob, illuminated front. Dynamic chassis control. Basically a lot of the electronic witchcraft stuff that’s bound to go wrong in years to come.
TBF it brings it up with levels of kit on Hyundai and Kia. And AP of Ioniq 5 is about on par with Enyaq but I got put off by scary amounts of ICCU failures.
This is reply I got …..
Hi Gary,
Thanks for getting in touch,
Unfortunately, Motability monitor this now and have said categorically we cannot amend the advance payment once submitted.
We would be fined if it was to be known.
Can you please name this dealer who says that it’s £680
I saw post on FB forum for Enyaq and person said paid for metallic. It’s possible it was the red so called Skoda, Bury who I’m seeing next week and spoke to salesman but not motability guy who said metallic is £680.I think there’s been crossed wires, lack of knowledge after reading replies.
Hope so anyway, as really like the matte grey which is same price as metallic.
I can order from 3rd Feb and so waited for Q1 prices.
Absolutely gutted the n line s Ioniq 5 has gone 😢
Ah right, EON are offering a very similar thing to Octopus with IOG. What I was driving at is, there is a domestic saving to be taken into account that you don’t get with an ICE car. Regardless, you seem to have a good handle on it. When is your contract due up?
3 yrs is 4th May but can put pen to paper from 3rd Feb so got fingers crossed things stay roughly where they are ATM when Jan list comes out.
It seems to me that you have done plenty of calculations. One that you haven’t mentioned, though, is the cheap 7p rate overnight. If you can shift your white goods to run then, you will save even more.
Have already gone down that route. A 10 – 100% charge would only cost £5.30 on an Ioniq 5 which is a real bargain. It equates to under £11 compared to £60 for current petrol car.
Currently with eon and done some rough calculations switching from 22p / kwh to 7p & 30p and standing charge stays at 50p / day.
Bizarrely, when I initially looked on their app it said Ioniq 5 was compatible with their smartdrive tariff at 6.5p but now it says its not. Put MY25 & 84kw rwd both times.
I totally get all the comments and appreciate the feedback.
As already stated, I’m sure I’d be better off. I’m also not thick and unless desperate I wouldn’t charge at 80p if I could get 40p slightly slower.
The only time I think I’d be out of pocket would be when away on a road trip hol. Even then with a bit of planning I reckon I could break even compared to a ICE.
I was just a bit surprised that worst case scenario it can be so much more expensive.
People seem to be very defensive with replies so apologies if anyone has been offended by the post.
Now do the sums where you only refill the ICE car at motorway services (the dearest cause that’s what you’ve done with the Ioniq) and recharge your EV at home (between 7p to 24p depending on your tariff?) I happily drive my EV from Glasgow to the NEC Birmingham and if I need to recharge use Ionity (43p) or Tesla (40p), both with a £10 monthly subscription.
I totally get that, I was just shocked at gap.
I’ve never filled up on a motorway but never had to because a 500 mile range allows it. With a 300 mile range I should still be able to manage.
Out of interest, do you know the Ionity & Tesla rates without subscription or what discount is? If it’s around 20p then £10 subscription means anything over 50kwh and it’s paid for itself.
Just watched a YouTube video and approx break even point is 45p / kwh if petrol is around £1.40.
I’m confident I’d be better off as estimate ¾ of charging will be at home at 7p.
The guy in video refers to “destination chargers” usually around 40p and charge at around 30kw. So under 2 hours for a 20 – 80 charge. It takes my misses longer than that to have a pee, coffee then another pee 😫
Just to get a balance view, how far are you within your leases 12/18 months etc ? Under there fair use policy you are limited to 8 tyres within your 3 year lease. Modern vehicle have a puncture repair kit which renders the tyre useless. Are we looking in the future at 8,000 – 10,000, 24,000 or 30,000 leases ?
I buy a can of Holts Tyreweld for £7 – £10 anx keep under boot floor. Never had to use it but apparently it can be washed out so as long as tyre is repairable it removes the “tyre being rendered useless” ‐ in theory.
Just to get a balance view, how far are you within your leases 12/18 months etc ? Under there fair use policy you are limited to 8 tyres within your 3 year lease. Modern vehicle have a puncture repair kit which renders the tyre useless. Are we looking in the future at 8,000 – 10,000, 24,000 or 30,000 leases ?
I’m 5 months short of the 3 years.
The girl I spoke to did mention the 8 tyres thing so why send email after only having 4.
She was very apologetic that it came across the way I took it. What I don’t get is I’ve never had it before. Seems like they’re trying to trim the fat anywhere and everywhere
Apologies if this has been covered already. Is there a site to estimate annual cost of electricity? I’m with Eon Next and they are offering smart charge tariff at 6.5p off peak, 30p peak and 60p a day standing charge. Currently use about 4000kwh per year without EV. Estimate doing 8000 miles pa and reckon 6000 would be at home. Eon app isn’t helpful as reckons estimate annual total usage at 2700kwh – 1300 less than we use already. It does split usage as roughly 50/50 between peak and off peak. I’ve made a guess at 6000miles at 3 miles per kwh for an Ioniq 5 84kw rwd at 2000kwh. That gives 6000kwh total, splitting that 50/50 at rates above and adding standing charge I got £107 per month. Am I anywhere near? If I am that’s only about £7 more than current tariff which would be amazing if I could run car for £7 a month plus cost of charging 2000 miles at public chargers.
Just checked my ohme app and for the year 8000 miles am on octopus intelligent 7p / kw/hr whatever it is. 2444kw/hr and cost £177. 90% is home charging, the rest is Tesla chargers at 49p/kw hr
Thank you
I wouldn’t be charging on peak rate, I thought they were getting at just under 50/50 rate between peak & off peak was for car plus things like dishwasher, machine machine etc being used at night plus 6 hours with anything on at lower rate but that seemed very optimistic TBH.
Apologies if this has been covered already.
Is there a site to estimate annual cost of electricity?
I’m with Eon Next and they are offering smart charge tariff at 6.5p off peak, 30p peak and 60p a day standing charge.
Currently use about 4000kwh per year without EV.
Estimate doing 8000 miles pa and reckon 6000 would be at home.
Eon app isn’t helpful as reckons estimate annual total usage at 2700kwh – 1300 less than we use already. It does split usage as roughly 50/50 between peak and off peak.
I’ve made a guess at 6000miles at 3 miles per kwh for an Ioniq 5 84kw rwd at 2000kwh.
That gives 6000kwh total, splitting that 50/50 at rates above and adding standing charge I got £107 per month.
Am I anywhere near?
If I am that’s only about £7 more than current tariff which would be amazing if I could run car for £7 a month plus cost of charging 2000 miles at public chargers.
Am I missing something?
Not currently an EV user but hasn’t the electricity you use to charge it if at home already been taxed.
So apart from the cars that have already been removed, do we know when other changes will take affect?
Will we see increases in AP’s within days or in January list, as well as reduced mileage allowance etc.
My current lease ends 4th May so can put pen to paper from 4th Feb.
Keeping the Motability Scheme strong for the future https://share.google/0BrRt0xyEq7WAJ0mh
Well that’s the Enyaq blown out the water then! Jeez what a hike. With a 1500 ap limit it’s currently looking between the Ariya and e-Vitara (which is an interesting addition and I’ve always been partial to the Vitara). Or maybe I’ll have to forego the intent to get something with better RW range than the e-C4 and stick in the same 50kW/h 160mile (achievable) ballpark, which in fairness hasn’t been a huge issue to date, I was just hoping for something higher and easier to get me and the toddler g’kid in and out of, a bit more luggage space and another 50m achievable range. Be interesting to see if any come down quite swiftly, changes over the first few weeks of a quarter do seem to be quite usual.
Same here, £1400 increase on 85x and the maxx pack removed so about £6 instead of £3500, nice.
EV6 removed too although it was pricey.
Only leaves Ioniq 5 from my shortlist and not sure if boot is big enough 🤔
If you’re getting your charger through Motability It’ll probably be an Ohme charger. If so, you can lock the buttons so that nobody can just use your charger when you’re not there.
Tickety boo, thanks
Hi I’m probably being very naive but totally new to this EV lark. Changing MB car soon and best options look like being an EV. ATM Enyaq, Ioniq 5 or EV6 are shortlist. This has probably been covered but 17 pages so asking anyway. Is the electric secure i.e can anyone plug in if we’re not there or can they unplug my car. We do have a camera / floodlight covering drive. Thanks
You need to set a schedule on the charger so it only works when you are charging. The car will lock the charging plug into the cars connector so it’s not easily removeable.
I see, all witchcraft and wizardry then. No armed guards required. Guessed it was possible, just wondered how.
Hi
I’m probably being very naive but totally new to this EV lark.
Changing MB car soon and best options look like being an EV.
ATM Enyaq, Ioniq 5 or EV6 are shortlist.
This has probably been covered but 17 pages so asking anyway. Is the electric secure i.e can anyone plug in if we’re not there or can they unplug my car.
We do have a camera / floodlight covering drive.
Thanks
