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hi all happy new year.
well as they say some good some bad.
personnally the results are mixed
the c3 and c3 aircross have gone up the c3 is stil 0 ap ut the weekly is up and the aircross is up to £627 which is very top end for me.
the juke tekna hybrid also up to £597 also up there
the qq nconnecta isnt bad at £347
mg zs hybrid+ trophy is the bargain as its gone down to £97.00.
but the cat amongst the pidgeons is mini.
countryman classic level 1 £847
countryman 1.5c excl £647
countryman 1.5c sport £897
cooper classic 1.5 level 1 £397
cooper 2.0s £597
cooper jcw 2.0 £2397
now i cant stretch to the jcw but the other plus some of the electric countrymans prices make it worth a visit to the showroom and a reassessment of budget although the mg test drive will be very interest ing.
on the whole not too disappointed.
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Not sure having electric is the right thing for you to do, when you have no way of charging at home and in the event of feeling unwell having to go out to charge, especially if you need to makr gp or hospital appoinment, but that decision is yours to decide.
Normally I’d agree, especially where health could make it difficult to charge. However, from what I’ve seen of @mitch’s use, it would be very easy to charge twice a month in small doses, meaning the car would rarely be below 40% charge, which would mean the hospital could be 40 miles away and the return trip would still be feasible. I’ve found having an electric car both easier to drive and more relaxing, which could help if the situation includes driving whilst less than perfectly healthy. I know there’s been a few times I’ve driven to hospital appointments and been grateful that the journey was as simple as point and steer with just pressing the go pedal to worry about.
As you say, though, it’s no for us to decide.
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I can order from 3rd Feb and so waited for Q1 prices.
Absolutely gutted the n line s Ioniq 5 has gone 😢
Not sure having electric is the right thing for you to do, when you have no way of charging at home and in the event of feeling unwell having to go out to charge, especially if you need to makr gp or hospital appoinment, but that decision is yours to decide.
Normally I’d agree, especially where health could make it difficult to charge. However, from what I’ve seen of @mitch’s use, it would be very easy to charge twice a month in small doses, meaning the car would rarely be below 40% charge, which would mean the hospital could be 40 miles away and the return trip would still be feasible. I’ve found having an electric car both easier to drive and more relaxing, which could help if the situation includes driving whilst less than perfectly healthy. I know there’s been a few times I’ve driven to hospital appointments and been grateful that the journey was as simple as point and steer with just pressing the go pedal to worry about. As you say, though, it’s no for us to decide.
As someone who had Nissan Leaf 2nd generation for 7-8 months without wall charging, I can guarantee the battery will be flat exactly when you need it most.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)Not sure having electric is the right thing for you to do, when you have no way of charging at home and in the event of feeling unwell having to go out to charge, especially if you need to makr gp or hospital appoinment, but that decision is yours to decide.
Normally I’d agree, especially where health could make it difficult to charge. However, from what I’ve seen of @mitch’s use, it would be very easy to charge twice a month in small doses, meaning the car would rarely be below 40% charge, which would mean the hospital could be 40 miles away and the return trip would still be feasible. I’ve found having an electric car both easier to drive and more relaxing, which could help if the situation includes driving whilst less than perfectly healthy. I know there’s been a few times I’ve driven to hospital appointments and been grateful that the journey was as simple as point and steer with just pressing the go pedal to worry about. As you say, though, it’s no for us to decide.
As someone who had Nissan Leaf 2nd generation for 7-8 months without wall charging, I can guarantee the battery will be flat exactly when you need it most.
You do have to be a bit more organised/prepared with an EV, but I have had two now and found that their ease of use and benefits of being able to defrost/set climate remotely far outweighs the drawbacks regarding charging. We can only charge at 2kw because our drive is at the back and when they came to survey for the install they said they would have to dig up the rear garden, so we just had a proper outdoor socket fitted and top up overnight and have never had any problems. It only costs us 5p/kw between 0000-0500hrs which helps offset when the cost goes up to 25p.
EV’s are something of a different mindset than combustion vehicles in that you don’t let them go below 20% really, and you don’t charge to 100% unless you’re going on a run. Once you get used to this they’re very easy to live with!
i agree its poss not the sensible decision that would be the c3 or more realistically the zs.
the test drives will sort that ive the zs on the 24th and i am going to see if they can do the hs as well just in case i know its larger than i need but as you say it has to be about comfort and so far the citroens are out in front. i havent tried to get any reductions yet and it may be pointless on the mg’s but eric stead were discounting before xmas but they may not include wpms.
the minis well that is a bit of badgery coming in ive had them before and theyre the perfect size like the juke.
but i will wait for the test drive. last time i did get £500 off at chesterfield mini if that was available that would bring the petrols into budget lol.
just got to try and be patient until test drives happen lol.
i am just releived that i have options in the quarter i can order in.
and thanks all for the advice about electric without home charger its hugely appreciated a lot there i hadnt thought about and will now build into the equation.
the big boost pardon the pun is that dobbies are now online and i am there at least once a month for a bimble and a free coffee so thats an easy top up. plus any excuse to get more gardening supplies.
probably cost me more in compost and manure than fuel.
Only disappointing thing about the EV4 is that you can’t get the GT Line S, which means you miss out on a number of things (the heat pump availability for example) and there is no way to add some of the missing stuff (memory seats for example) onto the other versions. In a perfect world you could add memory seats, heatpump and the HUD to the Air trim. But that’s not how Kia do stuff :(. Plus, and I know it’s a bit ‘marmite’, I prefer the fastback version’s design haha.
I certainly wouldn’t be worried about buying an EV without a heat pump. I’ve had an Enyaq without one for 2 years this week and never needed one. Real world tests by motoring journalist showed the same set up in a VW with a heat pump barely improved range by 5% and you would need to do in excess of 85k miles to recoup the cost.
Simply not worth it.
There ever instances of cars being removed or AP changing before the price list update in the new quarter? I ask because, like a lot of people I imagine, the Kia EV4 looks mighty appealing. I can’t place an order till March 😬
There ever instances of cars being removed or AP changing before the price list update in the new quarter? I ask because, like a lot of people I imagine, the Kia EV4 looks mighty appealing. I can’t place an order till March
Unlikely the AP will change in a quarter window, but manufacturers can take vehicles off or even add them at anytime these days.
Mini 3 Door the only 3 door car available now in uk and the JCW is £3799 on the scheme which if you need folding mirrors and the head up display you need to have as you will have to pay on other models to get which as you know are expensive. It is good to support british workers for once as the chinese are flooding the market everywhere and some are just plain rubbish with major rust issues and stupid software problems do we need all this tech just to get about.
I certainly wouldn’t be worried about buying an EV without a heat pump. I’ve had an Enyaq without one for 2 years this week and never needed one. Real world tests by motoring journalist showed the same set up in a VW with a heat pump barely improved range by 5% and you would need to do in excess of 85k miles to recoup the cost. Simply not worth it.
I think I’ve just been spoiled by my Ariya, which came with one by default haha. That is good to know though so thank you :). I’ve never done the actual ‘maths’ on cost vs return. I drive so few miles. Car is up for renewal in April (can start looking next week apparently) and its not even done 7k yet! X_X.. but its been a lifeline getting me out of the house when needed.
The sad thing is I can’t even get my Ariya spec on the scheme (or from Nissan full stop, even off scheme) anymore :(. As it is an Advance with the Bose Tech Pack, it has the HUD, better sound system and the video mirror thing. The mirror thing on paper seems so daft, and just a ‘party trick’, but it’s been so useful for being able to see out the back when the car has stuff in it (as the rear window is actually kinda tiny). And the HUD is amazing, as I can keep my eyes fully on the road. I know I could ‘technically’ get an external HUD that just plugs into the ODB port thing, but it will never be as good as an OEM one.
Boggles my mind how tesla 3/Y drivers cope (and mini, I believe right?) having the speedo on the centre screen. Just seems kinda unsafe to have to take your eyes so far off the correct position. But *shrug*, I have never driven one, so I don’t know.
My real hope is that Motability deem me worthy of an extension, as the Ariya cost a ****ing fortune in AP, I’m still paying the loan (from family thankfully rather than a bank) back -_-.
I feel your pain, I am in the same boat, my window opens the last week of March. Fingers crossed the EV4 remains on for the full quarter. If not plan B will be the electric countryman, going to the dealership today to see how it suits my needs.
ok been to mini an sat in the monochrome electric and the petrol 1.5c and the countryman still fits if anything its a tad biggerthan before. only drawback everything is touchscreen or voice now. so its a contender i just need to crunch the charging numbers and see if any of the petrols are affordable.
now i reckon its a shootout between mini and mg.
I certainly wouldn’t be worried about buying an EV without a heat pump. I’ve had an Enyaq without one for 2 years this week and never needed one. Real world tests by motoring journalist showed the same set up in a VW with a heat pump barely improved range by 5% and you would need to do in excess of 85k miles to recoup the cost. Simply not worth it.
I think I’ve just been spoiled by my Ariya, which came with one by default haha. That is good to know though so thank you :). I’ve never done the actual ‘maths’ on cost vs return. I drive so few miles. Car is up for renewal in April (can start looking next week apparently) and its not even done 7k yet! X_X.. but its been a lifeline getting me out of the house when needed. The sad thing is I can’t even get my Ariya spec on the scheme (or from Nissan full stop, even off scheme) anymore :(. As it is an Advance with the Bose Tech Pack, it has the HUD, better sound system and the video mirror thing. The mirror thing on paper seems so daft, and just a ‘party trick’, but it’s been so useful for being able to see out the back when the car has stuff in it (as the rear window is actually kinda tiny). And the HUD is amazing, as I can keep my eyes fully on the road. I know I could ‘technically’ get an external HUD that just plugs into the ODB port thing, but it will never be as good as an OEM one. Boggles my mind how tesla 3/Y drivers cope (and mini, I believe right?) having the speedo on the centre screen. Just seems kinda unsafe to have to take your eyes so far off the correct position. But *shrug*, I have never driven one, so I don’t know. My real hope is that Motability deem me worthy of an extension, as the Ariya cost a ****ing fortune in AP, I’m still paying the loan (from family thankfully rather than a bank) back -_-.
Personally I would contact the grants team directly and ask for an extension, your mileage is very low and you finances are limited at hhis moment in time. Worth a shout.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
trawling through the mini and mg specs i noticed that the countryman has hud on all models and electric tailgates on all.
the mg hs hybrid+trophy has a nice tan leather option but at a cost £500 and wireless charging not on the zs.
@mitch I agree all have electric tailgates, but I am pretty sure the HUD is not standard on all models, I just had a sit in an countryman sport electric and the Hud comes as an extra in one of the option packs.
Yes the HUD is part of the pack 1. I test drove a countryman last month and they are very thirsty and nearly everything is controlled via the screen such as heating, seats etc. I found that very distracting and annoying. I then test drove and e-power qashqai and ordered it there and then. Same spec pretty much as the countryman and far more economical!
trawling through the mini and mg specs i noticed that the countryman has hud on all models and electric tailgates on all. the mg hs hybrid+trophy has a nice tan leather option but at a cost £500 and wireless charging not on the zs.
Been today and ordered the Monochrome. Told we can collect on 13th Feb when current lease has ended so no wait with delivery times. The sport one does look better, but to get the spec that the monochrome has you have to spend £4,199 because the SE Sport is the only Sport with the level 1 pack that has heated seats and hud etc.
Its not ideal the climate controls etc being through screen, but its not a deal breaker and the majority of manufacturers are cutting costs by doing this also. The days of twisty nobs are numbered I feel, as much as they are the best solution.
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