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First off,
carrying on with our daughter’s plight to regaining her driving licence after her recent ban has ended.
The latest news is:
Her licence application is now in the hands of the DVLA medical department.
(so nothing going to happen quickly)We’ve had previous experience with dealing with the medical department, so might have an answer this time next year if the most recent posts on the net are to be believed, but with only 7 months left on her original 3 year medical license, things might take an unexpected turn if dvla drags things out.
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Moving forward from the time of the accident that ultimately resulted in the driving ban being imposed,It has been Direct Line Motability (DLM) that have been lacking in so many ways,
add in the fact that DLM or Motability never mentioned that a driving ban would impose a total of 5 years of being unable the drive on the motability scheme! I’m not impressed with DL.
Personally I won’t go anywhere near DL for personal insurance now.
If we had been aware / made aware about the 5 years forced absence away from being able to drive a Motability vehicle, we could have had a plan B already in place.
On the plus side, the delays from dvla have given us time for a plan B & even a plan C,
both away from the motability scheme unfortunately, but some Independence for the daughter again.
Tom…
For those of you who were wondering if our daughter received a full or a provisional license back from dvla after her ban?
I hadn’t forgotten to post an update!The answer is!
we still don’t know!Since her ban ended a week ago, the dvla status changed to showing her license as expired.
I will be back with an update, once the dvla have processed the paperwork,
seems like re-applying 56 day’s prior to the ban being lifted isn’t enough notice for them lol
Tom…
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This is why those in the legal profession earn the big bucks.
Previously I had been expecting the daughter to be issued a provisional license & then having to re-take her theory & test again.
But after catching up on this thread this evening, then revisiting .gov / dvla
Now I’m sure she will receive her full license back.
From gov.uk
Driving disqualifications
Contents
Overview
Check when your disqualification ends
Apply to reduce your disqualification period
If you need to retake your test
Changes to your name and address while disqualified
Disqualification for drink-driving
Disqualification for drug driving
If you need to retake your test
If the court told you that you must take another driving test before driving again, you’ll have to apply for a new provisional licence.
You can drive as soon as your ban is over and you’ve passed the tests you need to take.according to a snippet referencing the new driver act,
I am a new driver. If I receive an instant driving ban do I have to re–sit the driving test?
No. You would not normally have to re–sit your test unless this was a specific term of the penalty imposed by the Court. In the normal course of events, you would simply serve the disqualification period and your licence would then be reinstated. For a ban of 56 days or more, you would have to formally apply for your licence to be reinstated but this does not require you to take any further test.The court didn’t impose any requirement for a re-test, so the daughter should be issued with a full license according to that.
Many thanks to all who have taken the time to post, very much appreciated.
Regaining a driving license is only the first hurdle, as no matter what license the daughter is issued, her adapted motability vehicle is still going to be out of reach for her.
From Motability
Does it matter if a driver has points or has been disqualified?
Yes, any driver who’s been disqualified from driving for more than 30 days within the last five years cannot drive on a Direct Line Motability (DLM) policy.They’ll become eligible when five years have passed from the conviction date shown on their driving licence.
Tom…
The license check currently shows nothing but a disqualification, that ends in a couple of weeks.
I’m with you @swwchris, I think she will have to re-sit the theory & driving test again, but the daughter amongst others is adamant the court said she would not have to re-take a test.
(possibly meaning the court won’t be imposing any re-test)
Tom…
Thanks to all & I will of course update as & when things are confirmed over the next few weeks.
Edit: to include the daughter was a newly qualified driver at 3mth at the time of the accident.
It also reads to me that the courts can impose extra restrictions on anything over & above what the dvla requires on a licence re-issue following a ban.
Hence the court not imposing any re-test criteria but a required re-test via the 6 penalty points within 2 years as a newly qualified driver.
Thats how I interpret it all.Then again no mention of penalty points at the time of the ban.
Tom…
Personally I’m expecting the daughter will have to start from scratch again, having to do a theory & driving test, with possible points showing on what ever licence she gets issued.
Although at the time of the ban, nothing regarding a re-test or penalty points had been documented & the daughter does recall that the court mentioned that no re-test will be required.
But the way my memory is, I have trouble remembering last week never mind last year lol.
Either way, we’re not committing to anything until she has her license in back & in her hand (just in case)
Tom…
Cheers guys.
Not having to re-sit the theory & test again by all accounts is not as clear cut as we were hoping by the sounds of it.
The daughter had all ready applied for her license a few weeks ago, so just waiting on what type of license dvla issue, especially as her 3 year medical license should run out in 7ish months time anyway.
Trying to plan for the worst & hope for the best.
Tom…
Cheers for the info guys, much appreciated.
Hopefully got to the bottom of the legalities now.
The latest legal standpoint from .gov I could find states:
Disqualified for 56 days or more
If you’re disqualified for 56 days or more you must apply for a new licence before driving again.You might also have to retake your driving test or take an extended driving test before getting your full licence. The court will tell you if you have to do this.
Definitely not mentioned during the proceedings or in any paperwork, so no having to do any re-test 🙏
On a slightly more positive note, our original adaptation installers say they can source & fit the required kit on a 13 yr old runabout that’s currently owned by a relative, so a possible car share of sorts.
I didn’t think the kit would still be available for something that age, but happy to have been proved wrong on this occasion.Tom…
Glos Guy 🤭 all what if’s at the moment,
Does your daughter have to re-take her driving test in order to get her driving licence back? If so, that’s another buggeration factor as there are 6-12 month waits for driving tests
definitely nothing mentioned at the time of her ban & not aware of any indication as such on the D27 form from dvla.
But waiting on her license being re-issued before any commitment just in case.
Not a new thing on DLM.
Was exactly the same when RSAM was scheme insurance. Have my old RSAM scheme policy booklet from 2021 in front of me. Same as DLM now.
5 year scheme exclusion from date of driving ban
Definitely wasn’t aware of the 5 years exclusion, something that I hope DLM & motability will make more of an effort to communicate to there customers if circumstances dictate.
We have been Motability customers for many years, yet unaware of this stipulation.Even if there is a company that leases vehicles suitable for adaption, they would not take the lease on with the conviction.
Maybe someone on here has been in a similar situation and found a solution.
Buying a used car had been top of the list of possibilities anyway, but looks like a private lease might be off the table.
All that is confirmed at present, is that our daughter’s ban is over in a couple of weeks & she wants to get back driving again.
She won’t be able to drive any Motability vehicle for a further 4 years,
meaning due to changes in her circumstances, our current vehicle doesn’t meet her needs & will probably mean terminating our lease early.We won’t commit to anything until the daughter has her license back in her hand, just incase dvla impose any extra conditions.
I do hope to have an understanding of what is achievable & ready to move forward, once things become confirmed over the next couple of weeks.
Tom…
I do own & run my own vehicle, so for the past 12 months, there has always been 1 motor sitting idle on a daily basis, but as the motability car is fully electric, for economy, this is my preferred choice for anything local, so it dose more mileage than I do in mine.
(To add my vehicle is not suitable to be adapted for the daughter’s needs.)
For any sort of independence, our daughter wants & needs to be able to drive once again,
unfortunately a past accident & imposed conditions from DLM dictate that this will not be possible through motability for a further 4 years.
We know there were going to be consequences following her accident, but had we known a blanket 5 year ban on her driving a motability vehicle, we would have had more time to evaluate our options & acted sooner.
Those options include a possible private lease, but having never leased away from the scheme, I don’t know if adaptions are even allowed? Any feedback welcome
Purchase a used vehicle & get it adapted?
Then once we have a proposed vehicle, I can obtain a more specific insurance quote & do all the sums.
While our expectations seemed justified in keeping our current motability vehicle in place for the last 12 months.
With 15 months remaining on our current lease, there is no benefit to our disabled daughter remaining on the scheme under the current set of circumstances.
Tom…
At the time of the accident, the daughter was a newly qualified driver (3 mth ) & she received a 12 mth ban with a dvla CD?? Code.
Although I had been thinking that DLM would impose a ££ surcharge when rejoining the policy because of the previous accident, I never imagined a further 4 years term imposed before she would be able to rejoin.
If we had been aware of this upcoming additional 4 year exclusion from DLM, we would have evaluated things sooner & possibly made a judgement call 12 months back to relinquish our ties to motability.
Tom…
@Oscarmax @Glos Guy I have always been a named driver on the vehicle & it is still being used, albeit without our daughter behind the wheel. So all good there.
But all that changes when the daughter regains her license in a couple of weeks,
as the vehicle & the Motability Scheme then becomes unsuitable because circumstances have changed,
that being DLM won’t allow the daughter to be added to the insurance for another 4 years so she won’t be able to drive her own motability adapted vehicle.
Tom…
My bad, unknowingly ended up pushing it out to the forum before I’d finished, oop’s
Edit: an after thought,
Are there any dealers that specialise in used adapted vehicles?
If we ended up terminating our motability lease early, how easy would it be to track down our current car at auction / dealer?
Tom…
Just seen an article in the Sun where they class DS as a luxury car manufacturer.
The term luxury is definitely open to interpretation.
Tom…
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A LUXURY car brand is in the last-chance saloon, with a flagship model its latest boss hopes will spark life back into it.
French manufacturer DS is beginning to deliver its new DS No8 – a pure‑electric flagship crossover with up to 465 miles of range – which has the likes of BMW and Audi firmly in its sights.
I had the email from Renault today telling me
The third-party provider established that your data was included, which means the attackers have access to some or all of the following information:
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First name & surname
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Gender
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Phone number
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Email address
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Postal address
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Vehicle Identification Number
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Vehicle registration number
We do not hold any financial details for you, so no bank details formed part of the cyber-attack.The email looks genuine, but
Thing is I’ve never owned a Renault 🤭🤭🤭Tom…
I had been on my late dad’s motability insurance for the very same reason with no issues Mike.
I only drove it once in č15 yrs after dad had a GP appointment & the Dr wanted him up the hospital asap but wouldn’t allow him to drive.
Daughter dropped me up to his Dr’s, then I chauffeured him up to hospital & took the car back home.
On a side note: Kudos to MB & DL as well, as after my dad passed, MB allowed me to add my sister on to the insurance until the car had to be returned 2 weeks later.
Mom doesn’t drive & my sister was able to make use of the car while she stopped with mom
Tom…
Ohme have confirmed that it will cease all integration with Ovo’s Charge Anytime add on on the 15th July,
meaning no smart charging & no cheap CA 7p rate for vehicle charging thru Ohme
Charging will continue to work past the 15th at the full kWh cost.
If you have an Ohme charger and a compatible EV, you’ll be able to sign up to Charge Anytime via your vehicle instead.
Tom…
Looks like Ohme has beeen dropped from Ovo’s cheap 7p Charge Anytime rate for new CA subscribers.
Also rumours floating about the net that Ohme are pulling the plug in mid July for all integration with Ovo’s CA add on.
I’m an ovo customer & already on the CA add on with my MB Ohme charger, so interesting times ahead
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Best answer by Chris_OVO
Updated on 28/05/25 by Chris_OVO:
From Thursday 22 May customers signing up to Charge Anytime will no longer be able to onboard with their Ohme charger. This doesn’t affect customers currently onboarded with Ohme and Charge anytime. If you have an Ohme charger and a compatible EV, you’ll be able to sign up to Charge Anytime via your vehicle instead.
To sign up to Charge Anytime you must be an OVO customer and have an eligible car or charger. We’re constantly looking to open up the eligibility to more EV models and chargers –Tom…
Installation & charging with a dumb meter isn’t going to be an issue.
But depending on energy supplier & tariff,
charging your EV at a discounted rate if available, might be reliant on a working smart meter.
Tom…
Being able to get home quickly from a game of golf or bowls to attend to your partner in an emergency.
sounds reasonable to me.👍
Having your partner use public transport just because you need the car boot to carry your golf clubs.
Not recommended.🙁
Common sense & priorities are always for the motability customer, I can’t see an issue.
Tom…
If this news story is anything to go by, not a lot.
A couple in Scotland were given a £17,374 (roughly $21,220) estimate to swap out their Tesla’s battery last week after rain somehow damaged the vehicle’s internals. According to Tesla, the couple isn’t totally responsible for the ruined battery, but neither is Tesla itself. As a result, the pair will have to fork up the cash to replace it.
Tom…
Forgot to mention offset costs.
Do remember to factor in additional costs like charger supply & installation
(Free for 1st motability EV) or circa £1000
Additional purchases price / premium over an ice variant (or AP on motability)
Assumption had been you are a motability customer, but not taken for granted 👍
Tom…
As a comparison
atm my Hyundai Kona is averaging 3.9 mi/kWh So 1500ml at today’s rate 7p per kWh
equates to £270 for 15,000ml
Petrol @ 28mpg @ >£1.40l = £6.36g
equates to £3,400 for 15,000ml
as always ymmv
As mentioned, those figures are costed via home charging @7p per kWh.
Where as an example
InstaVolt as today is @85p per kWh equates to £3270 per 15,000ml
Tom…
