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In terms of GCB, I know its not what you want to hear…(sorry!) and I am sorry that it was stressful, but all that Motability is doing is properly reinforcing the rules whereas previously they allowed some leeway. The problem is that people hate losing something they had once and its hard to accept.
I am sorry to hear of your experience nonetheless. Must have been very stressful.
i was interested in the ev4 gt-line in the red as it looked the best with the shiny black plastic. i was suprised it came on at the same ap on wpms as the air butt hey it made it an eas choice as the gt-line had the electric seats and the faux leather interior. still as said the air isnt bad as you get a lighter interior which i prefer although i think i would go for black paint as the dull plastic doesnt stand out as much as with the other colours. just the mini test drive on wednesday and i will be able to make a final choice then i just have to hope there are no more changes before the 28th. i will try and take some photos of whichever mini i get on wednesday, i dont think they have an actual monochrome tester.
I had the same shortlist and it was an easy decision when the difference in range is 100 miles! Also a mini should always be colourful and the monochrome is just the opposite.
Yeah that’s ok thanks , the dealer did say it was very popular, I would have ordered there and then but my order window isn’t open until tomorrow :(. Thanks for your reply anyway.
I managed to get my order in a couple of weeks ago and its been a steal since 1 Jan, so no wonder supplies might have dried up (my guess.) I was very close to ordering the Air as its still a cracking deal and in many ways preferable. It has white headlining as opposed to dark and oppressive as on the top 2 trims and its wheel design is more retro 80’s. The cloth is nicer than the leatherette too. My son bullied me into getting the GT but I would have got the Air!
Welcome my friend.
My advice is look at the emerging Chinese brands again- all bar none will offer bluetooth handsfree calling (you’re mistaken) and they have some of the most plush and best finished vehicles even if their safety systems are a bit over-zealous.
The seating in the EV4 is relatively low compared to modern SUV’s however its still very accessible and multi adjustable. Its certainly not a low down driving position like the cars pre Chelsea tractors.
My son test drove an EV4 on Saturday as I need hand controls, so I was in the passenger seat.
My goodness. its absolutely incredible! The rise is serene, it was agile and directly responsive to the steering and had bags of room and poke. And a realistic range of 300 plus miles. The ridiculously low AP makes it the bargain of the quarter by a long distance.
My only concern is that a push pull hand control has no space amongst all the stalks and flaps on the right of the steering wheel! And it’s too new for any supplier to confirm if they can fit one, yet.
I’ll order and just wait till they come up with a solution.
Why is the Kia EV AP so low, compared to the more realistic EV3 AP, the Hyundai Kona EV is higher than both ?
I hope my reply might help a little. The dealer advised me that the EV4s are built in Europe rather than Korea as the others are. No idea if thats true and whether thats the reason but I agree, its an absolute steal. Usually its a run out model that priced ‘low’ but here its a new model. I would advise its a bargain compared to everything else and if you are umming and ahhing, just go for it. I doubt there will be such bargains going forwards.
I’m off to the Kia Dealer in the morning before they change their minds!
These Kia EV prices seems just to good to be true, AP’s usually go up when its my turn to change, then go down after I changed.
Just spoken to my local Kia dealer. The EV4 prices are in fact absolutely correct and are therefore the bargain of the decade for a 40k car. Unless something more shocking turns up on Thursday its going to be the car that gets me back on Motability after 4 years.
The CEO’s pay is on par with the sector, HOWEVER he did not defend the scheme nor the disabled customers’ right to choice and collapsed under the slightest (false) accusations about the scheme. Other agencies’ and journalists did. For that reason, its scandalous he is in post.
What did actually expect him to do, you still have a scheme, unfortunately it is watered down, the worst case scenario the scheme could have lost VAT exemption in it entirety, as from July 2026 it is applicable to AP. Lets see what 2026, the automotive industry needs the Mobility scheme to balance their production line and outgoing models, we may see little or no real changes to the AP.
To dispel the myths, to stand up for user’s choice of vehicles, to not remove cars which are NOT premium; you know, just do his job. By going along with falsely based public mood, he’s undermined the scheme and given credibility to the lies and myths. Not fit for the job.
The CEO’s pay is on par with the sector, HOWEVER he did not defend the scheme nor the disabled customers’ right to choice and collapsed under the slightest (false) accusations about the scheme. Other agencies’ and journalists did. For that reason, its scandalous he is in post.
Never Trust a Tory. I’ll solve world peace when I become Miss World- and I’m a bloke!
Sadly, none of the parties can be trusted. The current lot promised not to increase taxes and NI yet have done both. As they say, you can tell when a politician is lying as their lips are moving 
You are, of course, spot on!
I don’t give up easily so have responded to the derisory response as follows:
“Dear Mr Miller,
Unfortunately you sent me what feels like a template response and did not address my specific complaint at all.
I wish to escalate my concerns- please give me an email address of your Chairman or some whom you are responsible to.
I’m sorry but the sense of frustration and betrayal you have helped foster is not going to subside for the time being.
Yours….”
Lets see what happens next.
the guardian has defended the scheme better than the CEO
Disabled people driving luxury cars on your dime? Just the latest rightwing lie peddled by Labourhttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/disabled-people-driving-luxury-cars-on-your-dime-just-the-latest-rightwing-lie-peddled-by-labour/ar-AA1RWBJZ?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=221d8a9c97b9437db82fa660b3ddd326&ei=14
I have a reply! And he has not read one word of what I said or decided to ignore it.
A colour by numbers response- pathetic.
“Thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me, and I understand why you feel strongly about this issue. As you will have heard following the Budget, the changes relating to “premium” cars are viewed by the government as part of a broader set of reforms intended to maintain confidence in the Scheme. Alongside the Motability Foundation, we have outlined to government the economics of the Scheme and the impact these and other tax changes are likely to have on the Scheme and its customers.
Our role at Motability Operations is to deliver the best Scheme possible within the parameters set by the government and the Motability Foundation. The changes we have made to the availability of premium brands reflect those parameters. Please be assured that we will continue to do everything we can to minimise the impact on customers and to maintain as much choice as possible within the framework we are required to operate in.
We remain focused on ensuring the Scheme continues to meet the needs of disabled people and provides reliable, good-value mobility solutions. As the environment evolves, we will continue to work closely with the Motability Foundation and engage with government to ensure the long-term sustainability of the Scheme for all customers.
Thank you again for sharing your views and for your long-standing support for the Scheme.
Kind regards
Andrew
Andrew Miller
Chief Executive”
Here’s my email to the CEO- I will ensure the whole Board receives a copy. How would you feel about an online petition demanding his resignation because he has failed us completely? As a Motability customer for 40 years, I have to say your response to recent fake news about free cars and ‘luxury cars’ has been cowardly, damaging and extremely disheartening and insulting. You could have defended disabled people’s right to use their PIP as they want, to have choice like everyone else and to put right the myths and false information doing the rounds. Instead you have capitulated and removed ‘luxury brands’ and put out an apologetic press release seemingly confirming cynics’ views about the scheme. Surprisingly, you must not understand cars as Alfa Romeo hasn’t been a luxury brand since the 60’s and are, today, Vauxhalls with a different badge. There are incredibly luxurious vehicles available which aren’t the traditional premium brands. The insinuation is, of course, that we, as disabled people, don’t have an entitlement to any form of luxury despite paying for it. Given your capitulation, no doubt driven by a position of protecting your salary and pension, you have betrayed loyal customers and I, for one, will be seeking your resignation so that someone who understands the value of cars for disabled people- yes, even nice ones- and doesn’t play up to a witch hunt.
Very good! However, I think you missed the party trick alongside “Alfa Romeo hasn’t been a luxury brand since the 60’s….” yet Volvo, which has been seen as a
luxurypremium manufacturer alongsude the likes of BMW since 2015 or is it what the general public perceive that matters!Truthfully, I didnt want to give him ideas of what else to remove!!
Here’s my email to the CEO- I will ensure the whole Board receives a copy.
How would you feel about an online petition demanding his resignation because he has failed us completely?
As a Motability customer for 40 years, I have to say your response to recent fake news about free cars and ‘luxury cars’ has been cowardly, damaging and extremely disheartening and insulting.
You could have defended disabled people’s right to use their PIP as they want, to have choice like everyone else and to put right the myths and false information doing the rounds.
Instead you have capitulated and removed ‘luxury brands’ and put out an apologetic press release seemingly confirming cynics’ views about the scheme.
Surprisingly, you must not understand cars as Alfa Romeo hasn’t been a luxury brand since the 60’s and are, today, Vauxhalls with a different badge. There are incredibly luxurious vehicles available which aren’t the traditional premium brands. The insinuation is, of course, that we, as disabled people, don’t have an entitlement to any form of luxury despite paying for it.
Given your capitulation, no doubt driven by a position of protecting your salary and pension, you have betrayed loyal customers and I, for one, will be seeking your resignation so that someone who understands the value of cars for disabled people- yes, even nice ones- and doesn’t play up to a witch hunt.
Sorry, you’ve made an order which you are happy with and will give you certainty for 3 years but are worried about what happens after 3 years so want to cancel a perfectly acceptable deal? Yes?
I was expecting some really tempting incentives at this stage of the quarter but its been very quiet here lately!
Big Dave is off helping our Antipodean cousins. I’ll try and keep the page updated in his absence. It’s not my forte however.
Oh, of course- thats why! Its good of you.
I was expecting some really tempting incentives at this stage of the quarter but its been very quiet here lately!
I know there was chat recently about the limit being made a hard 3 years and no more flexibility with extending it 2 more if you wanted; however, it made me wonder why this actually was. I know it is nice to have the choice of getting something different at the 3 year mark, but do we know why they selected 3 years? I know the MOT needs to be done at this point, but I don’t see any good reason why it has to be a hard cut off? If they allowed 4 years, then what does that do for the resale price of that car? What about the selling of the car. At the end of the lease, I believe the car goes to some auction; however, they often will never get the highest price they can for it. Surely, they know how much they paid for the vehicle, how much they got in PIP payments and how much the AP was so they know how much they need to make to be profitable, so why can’t they just give us a price at the end of the agreement to see if we WANT to buy the car in the end? Sure, not many will choose this as they can’t afford to spend that sort of money, but some can and want to, but now it is not possible.
do you know how rules work?
I have in all my years on this planet seen a Government as bad as this They are incompetent,corrupt bend the laws to suit themselves the amount of lies that comes of Starmers mouth is unbelievable he will do anything to stay in power.
Did you say that when Johnson and his cronies and their mates were creaming billions off us all over Covid? I hate Starmer and his pretend Labour but nothing is more corrupt than the last lot!
@kdwolf How do you know that everyone who comments on a GB News website is a Reform UK voter? Besides, even if they were, they won’t be the people running the country and making the decisions that affect us – that will be the MPs like Lee Anderson. You can ignore it if you like, but he doesn’t agree with any disabled people getting Motability cars. He thinks that invalid carriages should make a come back and be given to those with serious physical disabilities. That told me all I needed to know about the lack of intellect of those in Reform UK who are hoping to lead us and make the decisions after the next election, which is a shame as I agree with some of their other policies.
They have policies apart from Immigration? I’d love to hear this…
