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Everything is done online now. V5 and tax.
Not if you need to change the taxaion class that can only be done at the Post office.
https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-tax-class/tax-due-to-run-out-or-changing-if-vehicle-is-exempt
I just had to go to change my new car’s tax over after i got my certificate from HMRC as it was on the scheme car.
Once it’s done you can renew it online.
NG has known for a long time it needs a substantial upgrade to meet today’s demands, but chose to do nothing about it when it first came to light. NG were recently also to interested in selling off a large chunk of of our gas pipe line infrastructure to foreign investors.
That’s really not surprising, It’s almost like these situations are being created on purpose and with us all being told to go green and the push towards ev’s. It really is a pipe dream they selling?
I wonder how long till they start telling people you cannot use your car at a certain time, just like they plan to restrict when you can charge it up and want to control when your freezer is on etc?
It’s not just here in the uk it’s globally, except for those that ain’t signed up and a poor we must fund them also.
I think alot of people are gonna die this winter or suffer extreme hardship, In germany, hanover I think. they are gonna turn off all heat and hot water in public buildings till march. Problem we have also is gas is used alot to create electric and they don’t imo want us using it for heating, you’d be crazy to install a heat pump especially in our house, but if they create the right situation, it would be a good idea as it’s better than no heat at all?
My brother recently bought an ex motability car and they completed and removed the bottom slip from the v5 and gave it to him before he could pickup the car as it was the salesmans day off, that my brother could collect on. As he needed to go to PO to tax it to change the class from disabled to PLG. So that should not be a huge issue at all. Maybe they don’t have the v5 yet themselves. seems a strange one?
Did you speak to the mobility sales person as sometimes they not available and the person who spoke to you may of knew nothing at all and just told you some waffle. Might be worth calling again or popping to the dealers if you can to see them or making sure it is them your speaking to, not just any salesperson at the dealers.
Failing that i would call mb up and explain the situation, they can contact the dealer and have done for me in the past.
DVLA aims to send out a new V5C to you as soon as possible, usually 4 to 6 weeks after getting the old V5C from the seller. If you do not get it within 6 weeks: complete form V62
I guess it can vary depending where you bought the car ie from a dealer it maybe quicker than for a private seller.
I recently bought a new car and it came in a few days, after swapping the roadtax over it took a week but i guess they need to check with the seller and it depends how quickly they send it off to dvla if they even do?
No new homes in West London as electricity grid runs out of capacity
West London faces a de facto ban on new homes for over a decade because the electricity grid has run out of capacity.
Housebuilders have been told it could take until 2035 to get new developments in Hillingdon, Ealing and Hounslow hooked up to the electricity network because it lacks the capacity to serve them.
Energy companies and regulators are scrambling to fix the problem while Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has ordered officials to monitor the situation.
The holdup promises to delay a string of schemes in London, where a typical property costs £526,000.
Builders have raised fears that the issue may not be confined to the capital. The problem is understood to affect some areas in the Thames Valley as well.
In a letter to developers, the Greater London Authority blamed the issues in west London on a string of planned data centres that are set to hoover up huge amounts of power.
The area is a popular location for these centres because it neighbours internet “superhighway” cables that run along the M4 motorway and into the Atlantic ocean — dubbed the “Silicon Corridor”. One data centre can consume the same amount of power as up to 10,000 homes.
This has resulted in some developers being told they cannot connect housing projects to the grid until as late as 2035, the Financial Times reported, with data centres prioritised under a “first come, first serve” system.
I recently went the same way John and handed back my scheme car and bought privately, handed the scheme car back at the dealer I was getting the new one from. Only a 140 mile trip there and back.
I Can only drive an automatic now and use adaptive cruise alot as it really helps with my condition. I know I could get better mpg if on a journey if I drove it myself or clicked the speed down a bit when coming to a hill etc and you see the mpg drop but really cannot be bothered with all that.
I had diesels for many years but due to covid and other reasons I’m not doing anywhere near the mileage I was and kept getting DPF issues as alot of driving now is real short distance’s. So the last two cars have been petrols and the latest is a suzuki vitara 1.4 boosterjet mild hybrid.
Actually am liking it, i might try driving real slow just to see how well it could do, but i know it wouldn’t happen on a regular basis.
Rest what case, you never put one, just some random comment regarding the nhs being underfunded what i gave you is the facts to dismiss your lame claim. how much is being lost by the small amount of users abusing the scheme do you know?
The country is in such a mess, because of what? again another random comment with no basis of fact?
Did I ever say I was worried about the nhs being underfunded, no I did not you did!
That’s resting a case and closing it
I have said as have other’s, that the scheme should be not abused but also my view is that not all user’s of the scheme should be treated like they are or may abuse it, because a few are and get away with it?
If some don’t mind a tracker that’s on maybe 24/7 then that is up to them and clearly mb don’t see it that way. Not that it even says it will be in the article, but it seems to be what some are suggesting should be the case.
Did you read the original article if not i suggest you read it? as it does not relate to named drivers, only unnamed drivers policies and those who are in care homes and is from 2nd October 2012 almost 10 years ago.
What i have a problem with is some people trying to force others to adopt a policy they want to see in place because a few misuse the system and the goto answer is we must all be tracked or put under surveillance to stop it. What about our freedoms and rights, by joining the scheme they do not or should not apply?
For some people on this forum, abuse of this kind is seemingly OK. They’re probably the same people who complain about the NHS being underfunded or services being cut. No wonder the country is in such a mess.
NHS hospitals under strain over £80bn PFI bill for just £13bn of actual investment, finds IPPR
Safety hazards, sewage leaks and falling ceilings are major risks at hospitals after decades of underinvestment and the legacy of PFIThe NHS faces a PFI postcode lottery as some trusts are forced to spend up to £1 in every £6 on PFI payments with worrying consequences for patient safety, says the IPPR think tank. Decades of underinvestment, austerity, and the legacy of the privately financed capital projects has restricted long-term investment in buildings, maintenance and new life saving technology.
In a new report, IPPR outlines the ‘capital crisis’ facing the NHS and calls for the end of the ‘toxic’ legacy of PFI. IPPR analysis of latest HMRC data found that PFI, the scheme which funded capital spending through private finance, is costing the NHS an extortionate amount. For just £13bn of investment, the NHS has been landed with an £80bn bill.
NHS trusts will pay £2.1bn on PFI repayments this year, rising to over £2.5bn in 2030 and taking money away from vital patient services. The impact of this is uneven, with some areas spending up to a fifth of their budget on PFI payments. The worst affected trusts are North West Anglia, Sherwood Forest, University Hospitals Coventry and St Helens and Knowsley.
PFI is compounding the damaging effects of austerity, which introduced regular cuts to NHS capital budgets. The report says capital investment has ‘fallen off a cliff’ as trusts have been forced to re-allocate long-term capital funds to patch up day-to-day running costs. In the last four years £4bn of capital funds have had to be reallocated.
The report says that the NHS will not be able to provide a modern health service unless it has the funds to invest in new technology and infrastructure. Failing to do so puts patient safety at risk. There are £3bn worth of critical maintenance issues unresolved – including fire safety hazards, sewage leaks and falling ceilings – all things that pose a genuine danger to patients and staff.
The NHS is also falling behind in technology adoption, argues the report. The NHS has the lowest number of MRI and CT scanners per head amongst advanced OECD economies. Pagers, fax machines and paper filing systems are still commonplace, leaving the health service dangerously outdated, according to the report.
The NHS has so far only paid around £25bn of the £80bn expected total cost of PFI since it was first introduced in 1998, less than a third of the final price. With just under £55 billion further to pay, the NHS will continue carry the burden of PFI for decades to come unless action is taken, according to the report.
The government has banned PFI, but not dealt with its legacy or provided new money for capital, leaving trusts with mountainous debts and little money to invest. The IPPR report The Make-do-and-Mend Service: Solving the NHS’ capital crisis makes two bold proposals to decisively end this damaging legacy:
End the toxic PFI legacy – Introduce a right-to-buy scheme that allows trusts to bring bad-value contracts into public ownership. This can be achieved by legislating for the right to enfranchisement.
End the neglect: – Spend an additional £5.5bn a year on NHS capital. This multi-year funding settlement would bring the UK into line with health capital spending per capita in other advanced economies.
The report’s conclusions demonstrate that the Chancellor’s one-off £2bn Spending Review cash injection does not meet the long-term needs of the health service – in fact it does not even cover next year’s PFI payment.Chris Thomas, IPPR Health Fellow, said:
“In 2018, the Chancellor told us ‘PFI was dead’. Our analysis shows it is actually alive and well – thanks to a Government refusing to take decisive action. That means toxic PFI contracts are still driving billions away from patients and into private bank accounts. And it means the NHS has no mechanism to bring in capital investment – blocking transformation and threatening even basic safety standards in our hospitals.
“The bluster of Boris’ proposal in August – a small, one-off capital cash-injection – is wholly inappropriate given the scale of this on-going crisis.”
I do think there is an agenda at play and as usual all is not what it seems. It is being artificially created and the war is being prolonged by the actions of the west.
Putin was a young wef leader, just as boris was and many others in powr right now.
Those behind it win either way as they are backing both sides. What they want is global control and even now the wef has a plan for agriculture and I did hear there was gonna have to be a cull in northern ireland of livestock to meet green co2 targets.
Around one million sheep and cattle across Northern Ireland may have to be lost in order for the agricultural sector here to reach net-zero carbon emission targets.
Further, work done by the UK Government’s climate advisers suggests chicken numbers would also need to be cut by 5 million by 2035 in Northern Ireland.
So who know what the total is for the whole UK.
In holland the farmers are protesting and little is in the msm about it, but again the wef have said they plan to buy their land, just like bill gates now is the biggest owner of land in the usa and it would not surprise me if they grow no food on it, adding to the crisis so they can offer their global solution’s.
And where do you think the allowance ultimately comes from? The magic money tree? No, like all benefits, it comes from the tax payer.
PIP/DLA is a welfare benifit we are entitled to, ultimately funded by the tax payer. Only 1/3 of claimants who get the mobility component choose to join the scheme, the other 2/3 apart from probably having more sense than us choose to do with the £265 as they wish, whether that is paying for taxi’s or buying private. The 1/3 that do choose join the scheme hand the (tax payers) money over a lease a car/wav. Motability make an awful lot of money from what is ultimately paid by the tax payer and have previously been investigated. The salary of the CEO is extortinate, offices are highly decorated and they donate £50m to causes not realated to the scheme or of no benifit to the taxpayer, when any spare cash should be going back into the scheme better or back to the tax payer. This is far more abuse than a named driver living at a seperate address than the claimant, using it to get back and forth work, as long as they assist the claimant in their spare time. Back to the use of black boxes (trackers) I for one would have no hesitation on leaving the scheme should motability ever become mandatory fitment. Not because I would abuse the system as any named drivers live at the property of the claimant. Simply I would not want my every movement tracked. Whether that is to prevent abuse of the few or for statistical purposes.
Absolutely kezo, 100% agree, be interested to see the next 6 months figures and see how much profit they made.
The pot has grown hugely since they was investigated. Seems though it’s alway the small guy who gets the finger pointed at them by the many not the big guys who run the even bigger racket?
Would not surprise me at all, if certain beneficiaries (external to the scheme) of money from profits from the scheme are conectable back to those that run the scheme in some way or their family, friends etc etc and maybe they’re on the board/s of those companies also. As it happens alot, it’s how they do it and hide it and profit from it, earning a salary or payment from them also.
However, if they utilise the Motability scheme, which has clear rules on what can and cannot be done with any vehicle leased through it, and they knowingly set out to break those rules, that is effectively fraud and should be dealt with accordingly.
I think you’ll find fraud would be if someone, somehow lied to get onto the scheme, not breaking the terms and conditions of the scheme once they on the scheme and that would allow Mb to terminate the contract they have with that person.
There is no way you can prove they knowingly set out to break those rules or even understood the rules, however much you would like to believe that is true or should be the case it’s not.
It has nothing to do with the allowance you receive, it is about the special arrangement Motabilty have re tax etc to be able to supply cars to claimants at a reduced rate because the car is being used to benefit a disabled person. Once the car is being used for other purposes it is no longer being used legally, what those purposes are, and what constitutes a benefit to the disabled person is open for debate as the different parties involved don’t agree.
Indeed and that’s for mb to decide not those on the scheme who seem to want to judge others without understanding the situation and circumstances and seem more bothered about what goes on in others lives than their own? We are becoming more and more a communist state every day like china.
Personally i’d be more concerned that my colleague was in a what seemed like, could be an abusive relationship than a missuse of a scheme car by her partner, but hey ho it it is what it is? you cannot help those that don’t want to be helped and mb didn’t do anything because I guess.
How many calls do you think they get from people complaining about scheme users as they got another new car and can they even act on that infomation given via some random 3rd party, that may or maybe not true and many calls might be malicious and how do mb tell the difference. So it’s no surprise at all.
Few times there was road works and m1 was closed and was chaos trying to get off the slip road and once the diversion was impossible to follow think some drunks messed with the signs and it took you back to where you came off.. So can be a pain sometimes?
My ora i think repells people and my wife attacts them? I cannot use public transport or be trapped with people listening to their life drives me insane? always ends badly? guess getting runover when your 9 didn’t help?
If you have a car via the scheme you should be wholly accountable, are you for real? it’s not funded by the tax payer it is funded by the allowance that you are entitled to and already get before you can apply to join the scheme and you get an assessment to decide that and maybe evey 3 years to keep getting it? Only then can you decide if you want to use that allowance to get a car via the scheme.
We all are getting tax payers money then? due to our disability but there is no obligation for one to use the scheme with that tax payer money is there, as you say and you don’t know everyone’s situation you assume alot and many whom recieve the higher rate do not have a car on the scheme, should they be accountable as well as it’s tax payers money they using. Says the VW Tiguan R-Line Tech auto in nice shiny black driver.
I have left the scheme recently after 11 years on it, does that mean because my brand new car is now funded privately using tax payers money, I should also have a tracker fitted and be under 24/7 surveillance as it’s seems to me, you have an issue with the funding of a car via the tax payer, as why else would you mention that! how do you know how much tax each person has paid or even earns. Seeing as it’s not a means tested benefit, one could be a millionaire or billionaire and still use the scheme if they get the right benefit that allows you to use the scheme or get a car off the scheme.
Wow in 11 year of using the scheme, The only time I have not been provided with a free courtesy car, is when you take it for it’s mot. Nissan, Citroen, vw and Honda
There’s no way I would be sitting at the dealers for 2 to 3 hours, even if the coffee was good.
New Vision for Agriculture
A global initiative of the World Economic ForumBeen pretty much back to normal for ages up near us, except if you go to the doctor’s.
I used to drive at nights for work, a lot better than driving during the day, although having adaptive cruise has made a huge difference also.
I don’t really do it much now but used to drive up from london from my mum’s to ours in the midlands almost south yorkshire and i’d leave at around 3am to get home to do the school run on a monday morning to give my brother a break for the weekend from looking after our mum.
I never go into the services I always used to stop at northampton / Silverstone services and just go to the bp garage as it has a wild bean cafe and is alot less distance to get to the toilet.
I would put my views across but people would only say that they are conspiracies’ but what i will say is, did i not say there was going to a global recession and that they would create it, at first you must destroy to then build back better.
It has very little to do with brexit at all. The imf have been wrong with pretty much every prediction for the uk since well before Brexit and actually are part of the global problem and will pickup assets from the fallout in the name of bailouts for the western counties and any other who’s debt have gotten so big they are bankrupt and the a new system will be put in place. Probally something to do with the east and the yen.
The World Economic Forum Vows to Buy Up Dutch Farmers’ Lands, bill gates is the biggest farm land owner in the usa and it would not suprise me if they grow no food on the land at all.
Yep and nothing is ever done about it? As the goverment rake in more cash than anyone from it? Those that sell it to us at the pump make very little from selling fuel.
Collision avoidance, can be very hit and miss and on most cars I have had I have turned it off, usually a button or in the menu, as well as lane departure and off road mitigation.
On the golf we had the sun sometimes would even set it off, but putting your foot on the gas overided it, but on the civic we had next you could not override it and after a few times of a car behind almost crashing into us as the car did an emergency stop when you went to go around a car turning into a left turn.
I do on the motorway find lane keep assist very useful and I use adaptive cruise alot, couldn’t be in a car without it.
Not had mini so wouldn’t know, but sure you it must be able to deactivate it.
I am also against the few clearly abusing the scheme of the 600k+ users of the scheme, but should all users be punished because of the few who abuse it and then there’s the added cost of all the trackers and monitoring of all the scheme’s users and the storage of such data.
When in many cases it’s not abuse and what you seem to be suggesting is that every non driving claimiant using the scheme, if they get a scheme car should have a tracker fitted and be monitored by 24/7 by an external third party, just incase the named drivers abuse the scheme.
That imo is like saying all people should have electronic tags fitted that are not criminals as they may commit a crime.
Thats not what the article was about it was about, it said
All new customers and those renewing their agreements with the Motability car scheme will now be forced to have a location tracker fitted to their car, if they live in a care home or have an open insurance policy.
Open policies allow disabled people to insure all of a flexible pool of personal assistants who may need to drive their car, rather than having to declare a small number of named drivers on their policy.
It seems like discrimination to me if it was put in place for all non drivers who is the claimant and should if it was the case, apply to all cars on mb, who’s details and address, driving licence number etc are registered via the insurance in any case, unlike on an open policy.
Also the tracker is different to a tracker, where if a car is stolen it can be activated as it’s not tracking the car 24/7. If that was the case I would not get a car on the scheme simple as and i don’t think Mb would do that either as it’s not like we are their employees and driving company vehicles and really they have any right or reason to track all users of the scheme. especally If they have the details of those users and their nominated driver/s details and they know if you live within 5 miles or not or at the same address.
Nothing is as black and white in life as you paint it. I am not the driver and never have been of her mb car, but i do see how, useful it was for her and without the use of it, it my brother wouldn’t of been able to provide the care he did for her and that was often needed at short notice.
That is something users of the scheme who do drive themselves don’t seem to understand and imo is not abuse of the scheme and in many case mb know about it and allow it as they did in my brothers case no tracker was needed as he was upfront about it..
That’s all i am going to add to this post regardless of any reply
How can a tracker judge the car is not being used for the benefit of the claimant if they cannot drive. How doe’s a tracker know if the clamiant is or was in the car at the time? it doesn’t. Next you’ll say the car should have a camera in it recording what goes on and a black box to recored the telematics’ Just incase the car is misused.
Mb was ok with the situation otherwise the non driving claimant would have no access to a car at all, is that a benefit to them.
This was only the case when my brother left my mum’s address and moved 20+ miles away and had already had cars on the scheme for a number of years.
For example, In his lunch break he would drive to my mums and sort out her lunch and empty her commode (as a non paid carer) and did any stuff she needed doing then went back to work. Pretty much that time would be cut down to zero if he had not had the use of the car and had to use public transport for instance, as it sat outside the non driving claimants house.
he’d pop in before work and after work or his wife would if it was his day off and my mum needed something or taking somwhere and in the middle of the night if needed, how would he get to her, to give here the care she needed.
Many people are in that situation and that’s not abusing the scheme, it is a benefit to non a driving claimant. Whenever she needed taking somewhere my brother took her, shopping doctors to visit friends and family and has his own life to lead also being here sole carer.
So it’s a very different situation to the one the post is about and one mbo was aware of and was happy with. Thats what matters not what anyone think should be the case.
A tracker don’t tell you who’s actual driving the car, just where it maybe parked overnight for example, if for instance it’s parked at a named drivers house overnight say or 5 miles away from the claimants address on a regular basis.
I have heard a few people on here, who said that they had to agree to having a tracker fitted to get their next car.
MBO had no issue with when my last brother got married and moved out of my mum’s house as she didn’t drive and also his wife was added as they both worked quite near where our mum lived also.
They was also allowed to drive the car to their home adresss outside the m25 when my mum lived in camden. It was however used for my mum and so they could get to her if needed and mb knew about the situation.
So i guess it’sone of those situations where if you not upfront and do abuse the scheme as some must do, just as some abuse blue badges.
I live 140 miles away and was the only driver of my scheme cars. so i doubt they’d need to fit a tracker to make sure it is being used by the claimant and goe’s to there address regularly.
Umm it seems so.. Covid meant they couldn’t knock or your door.
Once i told them when at my door religion is the the root to all evil and i am not interested. a few weeks passed and they came back and used my words against me but that Theirs was the only true religion. I replied if you are not born a JW can you truely beocome a Jw in the eyes of J. They ain’t been back.
Driving 20 mph slower over a 3 hr drive is 60 miles. It’s 190 mile to my youngest brother’s, mostly on the motorway. Normally it takes 3/3.5 hours. say it takes 3 hours that’s an average speed of 63.33mph. I set the adaptive cruise at 78mph, if i was to set it at 58mph it would add 2 hrs to our journey there and back, 8 hrs instead of 6 hrs. I don’t think I could do it as we only stay for a few hours.
