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With the way the price lists are heading I think I’ll be keeping my car for the whole 5 years thousands of pounds for a vehicle which most of them are quite basic really is crazy how do they expect people to come up with four figures when 80% of motability customers can’t work and have no savings myself included if it wasn’t for the grants team I’d be stuck back when I ordered in 2024 I needed a suv for my needs and the cheapest was £1499 otherwise I would’ve had to have a fiesta or something similiar due to my budget not sure what I’m gonna do in 2027 when it’s due for renewal
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@theo2017 the extensions to 5 years are finished, it’s for 3 years only now 🤷♂️ sorry ☹️
@theo2017 the extensions to 5 years are finished, it’s for 3 years only now
sorry If he purchased in 2024 then I don’t think so. At least not in mine from April 2024.
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How long is my lease and what do I do when it ends?
Leases generally run for three years from the date you got your car, or five years if you have a Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle (WAVWheelchair Accessible Vehicle). You’ll see this date on your lease agreement
Mine was ordered in November last year and can be kept for the 5 years. Ack there’s a big thread already on it and an interesting one.
It is rather rough the way prices have exploded. I was checking out some hp/pcp deals. Not really done that before, but the best seems to be Octopus, maybe you guys will know that side of things better than me.
But its options we will have to look at.
But we pay £335/month for these cars, it is still cheaper than going for a lease, but the gap is closing. Especially if you lease a 2-4 year old car, it is reasonable.
Its not worth the premium to have a brand new car, low mileage 2nd hand is not a problem.
The 3-year terms are for new agreements. What is relevant to existing contracts is as per your specific terms and conditions when you placed your order for the current car.
https://www.motability.co.uk/get-support/terms-and-conditions#car
With the way the price lists are heading I think I’ll be keeping my car for the whole 5 years thousands of pounds for a vehicle which most of them are quite basic really is crazy how do they expect people to come up with four figures when 80% of motability customers can’t work and have no savings myself included if it wasn’t for the grants team I’d be stuck back when I ordered in 2024 I needed a suv for my needs and the cheapest was £1499 otherwise I would’ve had to have a fiesta or something similiar due to my budget not sure what I’m gonna do in 2027 when it’s due for renewal
I have to admit the AP are getting ridiculous, I was under the assumption Mobility was encouraging us to go down the EV path, however, the EV AP appear to have balloned despite the Government incentive grants ?
This could however be down to the EV used market prices Polestar, Tesla, Kia etc for under £18,000 some still with manufactures warranty
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Kia and Hyundai have around 5 years warranty on the car and 8 years or 100.000 miles on thr high voltage battery.
Thats a lot of warranty.
With the way the price lists are heading I think I’ll be keeping my car for the whole 5 years thousands of pounds for a vehicle which most of them are quite basic really is crazy how do they expect people to come up with four figures when 80% of motability customers can’t work and have no savings myself included if it wasn’t for the grants team I’d be stuck back when I ordered in 2024 I needed a suv for my needs and the cheapest was £1499 otherwise I would’ve had to have a fiesta or something similiar due to my budget not sure what I’m gonna do in 2027 when it’s due for renewal
I have to admit the AP are getting ridiculous, I was under the assumption Mobility was encouraging us to go down the EV path, however, the EV AP appear to have balloned despite the Government incentive grants ? This could however be down to the EV used market prices Polestar, Tesla, Kia etc for under £18,000 some still with manufactures warranty
I’m starting to think Motability doesn’t really want us to have EVs, as you say Motability seems to be encouraging EVs but is that down to government pressure! To me it doesn’t make sense for Motability to have EVs on the fleet, ie increase costs for insurance, higher retail prices and really low second hand prices. It’s not a good business model.
How many of us would actually buy, if we had the money, a new EV?
I’m starting to think Motability doesn’t really want us to have EVs, as you say Motability seems to be encouraging EVs but is that down to government pressure! To me it doesn’t make sense for Motability to have EVs on the fleet, ie increase costs for insurance, higher retail prices and really low second hand prices. It’s not a good business model. How many of us would actually buy, if we had the money, a new EV?
Its quite irrelevant, because in a little over 4 years you can only buy a new ev, you will not be able to buy a petrol car. After that, yes a few new hybrid cars will be available.
One thing is for sure the transition will be messy either side of 2030.
Either way, the penalties will hit non-ev sales as they edge closer to 2030.
@theo2017 the extensions to 5 years are finished, it’s for 3 years only now
sorry As others have argued “it’s not in the contract” In other words, when Motability first introduced no more extentions, many existing or new contracts during 2024/25 did not get amended contracts or new lease contractracts T&C’s wern’t updated. Numerous members on here have argued this point with Motability and have been allowed to extend their contract.
I’m starting to think Motability doesn’t really want us to have EVs, as you say Motability seems to be encouraging EVs but is that down to government pressure! To me it doesn’t make sense for Motability to have EVs on the fleet, ie increase costs for insurance, higher retail prices and really low second hand prices. It’s not a good business model. How many of us would actually buy, if we had the money, a new EV?
Its quite irrelevant, because in a little over 4 years you can only buy a new ev, you will not be able to buy a petrol car. After that, yes a few new hybrid cars will be available. One thing is for sure the transition will be messy either side of 2030. Either way, the penalties will hit non-ev sales as they edge closer to 2030.
If I was a betting man, I would put money on the date reverting back to 2035 in line with wider europe closer to the time, based on several factors.
Agree @kezo The 2030 date will change. No question, in spite of what the current government says, or we won’t have a car industry left.
Regardless of the cut off dates, it will be possible to buy ICE cars for decades to come. They just won’t be brand new ones, but the vast majority of private car drivers don’t buy new cars anyway. New cars sales are way down on pre Covid levels as people are keeping their ICE cars longer and longer. As I have said many times, you simply cannot force consumers to buy products that they don’t want or are impractical for their needs – a critical fact that governments and environmentalists fail to appreciate.
2030 will this Labour Government still be in power, first they have got to win the next 2029 election, in 2024 they promised a lot, only to be downgraded to by the end of this Parliament.
The infrastructure to date is still not there, the cost of public chargers is extortionate far higher than the other countries, th next Government will revert back to 2035.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Not really.
The net zero legislation is directed at vehicle manufacturing, as such the manufacturers are already implementing changes away from ICE and on to EV.S it does not matter what wishful thinking exists amongst the population, the vehicle manufacturers are already implementing change.
Yes, there will be a lot of ice cars around, but restrictions Against there use will be enforced. Every town and city will become ulez, and that is ev,s only.
Additionally, as petrol declines pumps will disappear and charging stations take their place.
I,m sorry you can only think in terms of where we are now and cannot extrapolate where we will be in 2, or 5, or 10 years from now.
Even when BoJo moved the date back to 2035 and everyone cheered. Starmer made an announcement 4 hours later saying when Labour get into power, the date will be moved back to 2030. It was obvious bojo was desperate to win a few more votes, little good it did them.
Anyway, its a one-way street.
So is Labour doing a good job?
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So is Labour doing a good job?
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Thats a statement rather than a question and its to everyone… Best of luck with that..😂😂😂😂
Not really. The net zero legislation is directed at vehicle manufacturing, as such the manufacturers are already implementing changes away from ICE and on to EV.S it does not matter what wishful thinking exists amongst the population, the vehicle manufacturers are already implementing change. Yes, there will be a lot of ice cars around, but restrictions Against there use will be enforced. Every town and city will become ulez, and that is ev,s only. Additionally, as petrol declines pumps will disappear and charging stations take their place. I,m sorry you can only think in terms of where we are now and cannot extrapolate where we will be in 2, or 5, or 10 years from now. Even when BoJo moved the date back to 2035 and everyone cheered. Starmer made an announcement 4 hours later saying when Labour get into power, the date will be moved back to 2030. It was obvious bojo was desperate to win a few more votes, little good it did them. Anyway, its a one-way street.
UK car manufacturing has plummeted to its lowest level in 43 years, driven by a combination of factory closures and the government’s electric vehicle mandate. November last year, the UK automotive industry faced a staggering decline throughout 2024, reflecting a 30% drop from the previous year’s numbers and establishing November as the worst production month since 1980. 2025 UK automotive industry is still seeing a significant decline in vehicle production for 2025. In the first half of the year, new vehicle manufacturing dropped by 11.9% compared to the same period in 2024, the lowest in 72 years.
Fleet news also reported earlier this year that vehicle manufacturers are predicted to miss zero emission vehicle (ZEV) mandate new car sales targets by over 345,000 units by 2028, according to new data.
BMW is holding back on investing £50m at it’s Oxford Mini plant, Stellantis (Vauchall) removed van making from the UK , which saw the closure of Luton. At the same time Stellantis has also said holding back its investment at it’s Ellesmere Port plant, after it promised to, on the closure of Luton, blaming both the ZEV mandate and weak electric vehicle sales.
Nissan is currently facing significant financial challenges, at the same time it’s facing significant challenges with the UK’s ZEV mandate and if facing a downturn in electric vehicle sale, due to a slowdown in consumer demand. challenges. Toyota’s decision to not fully commit to the electric vehicle route in the UK is part of a broader strategy to diversify its offerings and adapt to the evolving automotive market. Suzuki, whils’t some of it’s vehicles are built at UK Toyota plant, it too is facing similar challenges to other manufacturers. Ford is currently facing challenges with the ZEV mandate in both it’s car and van market. Ford’s UK operations are also facing challenges in transitioning to electric vehicles due to a slow adoption rate and the need for government support.
Thats about it for the UK’s bread and butter mainstram automotive manufacturing. If they close or relocate, because of the gvenments 2030 date and ZEV mandate or contine struggle, thats gong to see alot of workers on the dole, a further downturn in the econmy, regardless of any legislation and then, who should we blame? Not the manufacturers for sure, as relocating to other european destinations would see cheaper overhead costs (thanks Ed), no pressure to meet 2030 deadlines and no silly ZEV fines, if they didn’t want to sell cars here for the forseeable future and most of all, it would make sense for all europe, to be on the same hymn sheet, because most of the cars we drive are built in the EU. But by that time, we will all have digital ID’s and be under a authoritarian regime, so it won”t matter anyway!
Oh and Bojo had long been out of mainstream politics by the time Starmergeddon arrived.
This changed course. Unsurprisingly to BEVs again.
With Labour in power until mid 2029, I’m not sure there’s time to push back the deadline. In 6 months could the industry really change from EV only plans to all cars in just 6 months?
Im not sure just how much the high speed infrastructure can improve? With cars capable of more than 150 miles and many much more likely to get 250-300 before charging is important, you’d pass a huge amount of chargers if you start anywhere in the UK and travel 250 miles. Destination charging or charging at home is the next problem to solve, specifically a solution for those in blocks of flats. There is a question about whether city dwellers should be expecting to drive or whether public transport or private hire over ownership is the way forward.
I’ve often wondered whether the manufacturing problem is the inability of the manufacturers to be encouraged to build their factories here or whether this is simply an obvious product of Brexit? When you’re dealing with multinational manufacturers who will build cars in a market if the demand within that market justifies that expense. Blocking a small UK market and putting import duties between us and the EU market really just said to every car manufacturer ’please move your production line elsewhere’.
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regardless i will be getting another self charging hybrid probably the juke tekna or the qq epower.
unless something remarkable appears before 28 feb. and if i see that lease through to 29 i will do the same again as long as i can. because around here its a desert as far as any charger is concerned and the prices are rediculous. unless i move house i wont get or have access to chargers so it aint going to happen given my age in my lifetime.
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