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I Guess it can vary from a few days to a week and in some rare cases into a secend week (if it’s a brand new car) plus it depends on how many cars the dealers have going outI guess and slots to pick them up.
Mainly it’s down to mb giving them the go ahead. If it’s your 1st car on the scheme it can take a little longer, than if you already have a car on the scheme.
I guess mb are getting the car via the manufacturer not the dealer, as they really only act as a broker in the deal and get a fee for doing so.
I recently left the scheme and got my new car in 4 week’s.
The wait time on the scheme for alot of cars is way to long, which can be especially problematic if your circumstances have changed and the curent car is no longer suitable.
The only solution I see to your issue might be off the scheme, even if it’s only short term till a new car arrives or comes onto the scheme that’s suitable.
Seems though mpv’s are not as popular as they was and many have been dropped for suv’s. The other option maybe an estate. I know they are lower and for some that’s an issue getting in or out, but they do give you alot of boot space.
Yep, totally.
They make more profits from those that extend and then they use the profits they make to donate to other causes not directly back into the scheme, I recently left the scheme as for me the balance has now tipped towards car ownership due to the high ap’s and a multitude of other reason’s.
I have never extended any cars of the 4 cars I have had on the scheme only time was during the 1st lockdown when delaers was closed and I was due to exchange.
I also have never added any extras as they benefit from that also at the end of the lease.
It will be interesting to see the profits they’ve made in the last 6 months, I reckon they have increased again on the bumoer profits from the prior 6 months from used car prices rising and more people extending either due to a lack of anything suitable now on the scheme or witing for the new car.
Some have been waiting now 2 years since ordering, other have been cancelled my the manufacturer or the specs changed. I got my new car off the scheme in 4 weeks, which for us was another reason to leave but what really made be jump right then was the 0% finance on hp not pcp. deal’s no longer available it’s now 6.8% but they give you 2k and I just knew rates would rise and inflation would run rife, been oo the cards for ages as goverments have printed more and more money. The profits mb are making are out of hand considering it’s all from peoples allowance’s and i do believe it needs really looking into where that money is actually going.
Nearly new ? Is this with delivery miles only or pre-owned ?
Steve, It’s a nearly new, wheelchair accessible vehicle (WAV)
They don’t. Motability own the car, you are just the person leasing it. So Motability would appear as the owner and I think, keeper. Certainly, we don’t get a V5 in our name. On the day of collection or sometimes a few days before, the dealer registers the car, you don’t have to worry.
I do know after you return your scheme car you then recieve a letter from dvla.
Acknowledgement
This confirms that we have updated our records for this vehicle and you are no longer the registered keeper of: VRN make model
So the car is indeed registered in your name, only Mb hold the v5. You can get a copy if needed from them. Not had to in 11 years of being on the scheme though.
The problem Tina has, is that the vehicle is used and it’s not the registration of a brand new car, as Tina is getting an almost new wav and my take on the situation is they cannot do the registration online for whatever reason and have done it by post and need to wait until the v5 is issued by dvla to put road tax on the vehicle (maybe using her exemption certificate) and then are delivering the car to her.
Two things are differrent from the norm imo, one the vehicle is used and not new as most scheme cars are and it’s being delivered to tina, with most scheme cars you have to pick them up from the dealer.Even during covid they couldn’t deliver, my new car sat there from mid april(when i was due to exchange) till the end of june till i could go and pick it up.
So that might be the big problem and what’s causing the delay, that it’s a used vehicle.
If Tina was to pickup a used vehicle herself (not via the scheme) maybe there would be no issue at all, as they could/would give her the slip of the v5 and she could go to the postoffice and put the road tax on herself and the v5 would get sent to her.
The fact It’s a mb scheme vehicle not a privately owned vehicle and probally is a rare case imo so it seems it’s not as straightforward as it should be, which is probably causing the delay.
Just very unfortunate and not much the dealer can do but wait till he has the v5 or mb contact the dealer to say they have it. As I doubt the v5 will get sent to the dealer.
Totally, In ordinary times they’d maybe let us have them on the scheme, but right now they have bought them to sell retail and selling to mb they make a set amount which is set buy the manufacturer not them.
The reason i mentioned ap discount’s being offered is right now they seem to be on cars they maybe have excess in factory builds not allocated to anyone at the manufacturer but they’ve been added to the factory production line as slot was open, certain specs and colours only.
At the start of this quarter ford listed a few focus’s that was stock cars only, all gone now as they not listed on the mb search. if any new cars was to come on the list they would be added here.
might be worth checking that daily till you find something or order something.
I guess you could order something and if you find something sooner you could cancel that order and get the one you can get sooner, that now they have in stock and will let go of to you via the scheme.
Other option is to buy something privately like i did.
Thank-you for replying. Interestingly I was speaking to a dealer some 200 miles away who stated that they were only allowed to supply within a narrow radius catchment area. I shall continue trying however!
Never heard that one before, I know some users have travelled large distances in the past to get a discount on the ap, there’s not many deals on ap’s right now at all, all are pretty much in the far far south.
https://www.motaclarity.co.uk/news/motability-deals
Maybe there might be some spare nissian Qashqai’s but manual’s as 2 dealers are offering a small discount if you order before sept, you didn’t say if you need an auto or not, but might be worth trying closer Nissan dealers to you and asking. Guess also it depends on what sort of ap you can afford.
I’m guess you don’t curently have a car on the scheme. my 1st car on the scheme was a Qashqai back in 2011.
Who knows right now, Guess you’d have to be really lucky.
I did buy a car recently and left the scheme although I’m south of the border in the midlands, almost Yorkshire and had to travel to Dudley to get it but in 4 weeks. which was better than the 5/6 month wait i was told for one on the scheme or longer on others some have been waiting a year or even 2 now for cars and some just haven’t arrived and been cancelled or users have cancelled after specs have changed. Maybe widening your search may help if you can travel to pick it up and as you say you flexable as long as it’s not small.
Yeah I know I’m trying to be so patient
I dont have a car at the moment unfortunatelyThat’s the worst situation to be in, total feel for those like yourself who are without cars and are having to wait really long times to get a car on the scheme. Not so bad when you already have something, unless it’s become unsuitable as people’s conditions can change and for example they may need an auto now.
Hopefully it’s not too long a wait for you and when you do get it the wav will make things alot better for you.
I don’t know what I’d do without a car as i’m 100% reliant on it to get out.
I have had dsg and cvt auto gearbox cars and there pro and cons to both really but imo I had no real issues driving them.
Did like the smoothness of the cvt on the honda civic sport i had.
I had to make my move recently to get a suzuki vitara(off the scheme) as the new full hybrid version has an ags gearbox as some have said its automated manual transmission and uselss really imo.
It’s just like driving a manual transmission only worse it having to find a biting point, so is a delay pulling away and it was a big no for me after driving automatic for ages.
Also they go wrong all the time and is a technology that never really took off but is cheaper than a full auto and maybe with supply issues some are adopting them.
What ever you get I’d stay away from those.
Can somebody help me please.. My current 3 year lease for Audi Q2 finished on 19th July 2022, my insurance extended till December that’s the date my new order car (Kia Sportage) arrives.. My question is: Currently my car done just over 59.000 miles and I wonder if I’m exceed the 60.000 limits for our lease till December, do I get any trouble with motablity?
I have never extended except for when during first lockdown I was meant to change the car and dealers was closed. I would imagine you would get a mileage allowance of another 10k for the added 6 months on top of the 60k for 3 years.
Ah god I hope I’m not waiting another 6 weeks, I know I don’t get the log book the dealer keeps it , I’m just devestated at having to wait nearly another 2 month it’s already been ages since I had my demo ?
Guess we all feel like that Tina from time to time. I forgot if you said or not if you have wheels at the moment or not, which makes a huge difference to the wait, but try and think on the postive side everyday that passes is another day closer to the day you will pick it up.
Leading on from; No new homes in West London as electricity grid runs out of capacity
The energy vampires sucking Britain’s grid dry
A shortage of houses in London and the south east has long been one of the most prolific problems facing the Government.
Yet desperately needed fresh supply is unlikely to materialise soon in west London, after developers were last week told they may be prevented from starting new projects in the area until 2035, because the electricity grid has run out of capacity.
But it isn’t just tightening energy supplies amid the war in Ukraine that is behind the de facto ban – surging demand for data centres is sucking Britain’s power grid dry.
These warehouse-sized buildings full of computer servers absorb so much electricity that the Greater London Authority (GLA) told housebuilders it may be more than a decade until new developments in Hillingdon, Ealing and Hounslow can be sustained by the grid.
Much of the problem boils down to the economic success of the M4’s “Silicon Corridor”. As technology and finance companies compete for office space near the data centres that power their businesses, demand inevitably begets greater supply.
Roughly half of Britain’s estimated 200 data centres are in the south east of England, with a large proportion concentrated in the area between Reading and Ealing.
SSE, the electricity distribution network operator covering west London and Slough, estimates a typical data centre campus needs 50 mega volt ampere (MvA), which is the electrical demand required by developments of 5,000 to 10,000 homes.
With around a dozen planning applications for new data centres outstanding across the area, the huge power demands of these data centres bear closer scrutiny.
In Ealing, for instance, there are currently seven applications to build new data centres sitting in front of planning inspectors.
A memo sent to housebuilders by the GLA this month, seen by The Telegraph, said data centre planning applications were blocking new housing developments until 2035.
It said: “Over the last two years the Distribution Network Operator, SSEN, has experienced the same volume of new data centre connection requests in west London as the total electricity demand of the area.”
Jump in remote working
According to sources, authorities have broadly been operating a first come, first served system for allocating electrical demand. But a jump in remote working since the pandemic has helped to push up demand for data processing and connectivity – and the electricity to serve it – meaning the current system is no longer fit for purpose.
A spokesman for the Energy Networks Association described west London’s problems as an “isolated circumstance caused by a quick and concentrated expansion of demand from a localised growth in data centres, far higher than forecast.”
Yet the power supply problems are not confined to the three boroughs highlighted by the GLA. They extend further west into the Thames Valley, stretching as far as Reading.
Tech companies such as Oracle, Microsoft, Dell and Huawei all have bases here, due in part to nearby transatlantic data cables feeding London. These broadly follow the M4, and businesses along their route are keen to tap into these conduits of commerce – soaking up the grid’s power.
Estimates from the International Energy Agency (IEA) say data centres account for around 1pc of global electricity consumption, at between 200-250 terawatt-hours, with demand rising “exponentially”.
Inextricably linked to data centre power usage is power consumed by data transmission networks, the fibre-optic nerves and arteries of today’s digital economy. While the IEA says energy intensity from these networks has halved every two years since the millennium, they still account for up to 1.4pc of global electricity demand.
It means that in areas such as west London, data centres drink electricity – and their insatiable thirst is creating a drought in the surrounding area.
One six-foot high rack in a data centre holds up to 42 servers, and consumes about six to eight kilowatts (kW) of electricity. A typical data centre might hold a few thousand racks, meaning an industrial estate-sized building can contain between 500,000 and 1 million servers depending on internal layout.
Powering down energy needs
Powering the servers is only part of the data centre electrical equation. Intensive calculations required for artificial intelligence (AI) or enterprise IT work generate heat.
Cooling fans need to be installed to take that heat away, and with such large numbers of servers in such a small space, data centres need large and powerful industrial air conditioning systems to prevent a literal meltdown from occurring. About 40pc of a typical data centre’s power consumption is used on running the air conditioning.
With those figures in mind, it is easy to appreciate how data centres such as data centre operator Virtus’ London-2 facility in Hayes, Hillingdon, needs to draw up to 12.2 megawatts (MW) from the National Grid.
Slough, on the border of Hounslow and Hillingdon, is home to half a dozen such public data centres, as well as a number of single-user sites operated by big tech companies. Nearby Heathrow Airport has at least two public data centres and a significant number of private ones nearby, serving airlines and the travel industry. British Airways has two data centres near Heathrow, powering the airline’s operations and providing backups in case of failures.
Moves are afoot to reduce the power requirements of data centres.
Craig Melson, industry body TechUK’s associate director for sustainability, said industry was working on initiatives such as the Open Compute Project, a Facebook-led scheme to redesign servers so they use less energy.
Meanwhile, Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has promised a partial solution by next year, saying energy regulator Ofgem “has decided to change the connection charging framework, from April 2023, which would see connection costs fall for housing developers requiring [electricity] network reinforcement to accommodate their connections.”
Ultimately, the answer lies with electricity generation and distribution capacity, combined with political pragmatism that lets smaller new housing developments leapfrog data centre build and fit-out cycles.
While data centres may be vital to modern business and technology-reliant lifestyles, their vast electrical demands add yet another hurdle to solving Britain’s housing crisis.
Sorry to hear about your best mate @rox
Thx appreciate it.
Bread and Circuses… was the only thing to catch my eye today. Indeed, the Circuses bit is the sole content of news this morning. The soccer dominates and has done for many days now. The Commonwealth Games comes a close second. The winners of everything displaying the “must-do” for every sport these days – clenched fist, unrestrained aggression and screaming into camera. Very sad, particularly so with the recent death of Professor James Lovelock, arguably the greatest and most important 20th century scientist after Einstein. His passing barely gets a mention, Our leaders must be very happy that the Circuses keep people’s minds off of the chronic state of the nation. That said, they have forgotten to address the “Bread” bit of the phenomenon – with more and more citizens having to use food banks because of soaring prices.
Indeed the smokescreens and illusions they use to pull the wool over our eyes.
What a sad life some lead, I would of parked up so my boot was sticking out towards the roadway not the other bay, unless there’s a walk way between the bays like at our local tesco.
Vehicle registration https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/new-and-used-vehicles
New vehicles
The dealer will usually register a brand new vehicle for you. If they do, you’ll get a V5C registration certificate (log book) within 6 weeks. Contact DVLA if you do not get one.If the dealer will not do it, you can register the vehicle yourself.
If your vehicle is a new heavy goods vehicle (HGV), you also need to record the details of your HGV with the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA).
Used vehicles
You need to tax a used vehicle before you can use it on the road.
The way a used vehicle is registered to you depends on whether it has a V5C registration certificate (log book).Vehicle has a registration certificate (V5C)
The seller can register the vehicle to you online or by post.The seller must follow a different process if you’re buying a vehicle to take abroad including the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey), Isle of Man or Ireland. They must give you the full log book (V5C) and not send it to DVLA.
Register online
The seller will need to:register the vehicle to you online
fill in the green ‘new keeper’ slip and give it to you
destroy the V5C
DVLA will update the vehicle record immediately and they will aim to send out a new V5C to you within 3 to 5 days.Register by post
If you cannot register the vehicle online, you can register it by post. The seller will need to:complete section 2 if they have a new style log book (with multi-coloured numbered blocks on the front cover) or section 6 if they have the older style log book
sign the declaration in section 8 if they have the older style log book (you must sign the declaration too)
fill in the new keeper slip and give it to you
send the V5C to DVLA
DVLA aims to send out a new V5C to you as soon as possible, usually 4 to 6 weeks after getting the old V5C from the seller.If you do not get it within 6 weeks:
complete form V62 – ‘Application for a vehicle registration certificate’
send it to DVLA with the new keeper slip given to you by the seller – if you do not send in the new keeper slip, you’ll have to pay a fee
Download form V62 or get it from any Post Office branch.Contact DVLA if you do not receive anything 6 weeks after sending in form V62.
Vehicle does not have a registration certificate
DVLA advises that you should not buy a vehicle that does not have a registration certificate (V5C).
Register the vehicle in your name by using form V62 ‘Application for a vehicle registration certificate’. You’ll have to pay a fee. See the section above for how to get form V62.Contact DVLA if you do not receive anything 6 weeks after sending in form V62.
Checking your new registration certificate
When you receive your registration certificate, it’s your responsibility to check all the details are correct. If anything is incorrect, make the changes on the certificate and send it back to DVLA.DVLA
Swansea
SA99 1BAYou’ll get the replacement certificate within 4 weeks.
Would I pay £3995 To lease a car on the scheme even deducting the possible £900 you could get back after paying the almost 4k ap that’s still £3095, divide that by 36 and it’s £85.97 on top of the allowance a month. It’s a no from me.
I was waiting a fair timer for my car and now it is at the dealers pdi inspection found a problem i got a phone call from the sales manager that i now will not get the car till end August Sep time as there is a problem with Emissions and it needs a new part which will not be available till middle of August.To be honest i am quite shocked by this and i said they might as well reg for Sep reg which he said he can do, i have been thinking about this and emailed the said manager and the motablity salesman saying can you explain what part is needed and can you send me some pictures of the car he said he would but to further my Suspicions i have not been replied to. .
They having a bubble or what?
It’s typical of the public sector and when we pay more in the form of taxes, many via stealth, all we get is worse service, for those who really need it it’s very costly.
How much of a rise did or will those upstairs get.
Same with most big charities very little actually goes to the frontline to help people it’s all running costs and wages like the wage the ceo of mb or oxfam etc, they on huge wages and seem they have enough to advertise on tv alot like the rspca with some sob story to pull at your heart strings.
Even the mp’s get huge % rises but when the people do it’s madeout like it’s their fault for demanding a fair wage inline with the economic costs of living. Which have been going up and up for years and what rises have people got very little.
Thats where the crisis has been created not russia invading Ukraine, but a long term well orchestrated plan to bring down the standard of living and socially engineer us to the plan of restricting us and rationing us via the controlled distribution of scarce resources, goods, services, or an artificial restriction of demand.
Yesterday I found out my best m8 for many many year’s, contacted the mental health team twice on the day he commited suicide and they deemed he was not a risk to himself and did nothing?
How many more people gonna get no help when they really need it and end up paying the ulitmate price. Just like during covid, imo the cure and solutions put in place was more damaging than the virus, especially to the most vulnerable.
It’s not just the nhs it’s the goto excuse over and over, Some crisis then onto the next crisis.
Even doctors are told not to refer people for treatments and my latest treatment needed, has been out sourced directly to some private company, That I won’t name, clearly the nhs is paying for it and at what cost also to them. Plus as i mentioned in another post the pfi schemes running some till 2050 taking up a huge chunk of the nhs budget’s and lets not talk about a fun day at the local park paid for by Serco a fast paced and diverse business operating 180 contracts across Health, Defence, Citizen Services, Justice, Immigration, Transport in the UK and in many countries in Europe.
The huge contracts they have and especially the one to deal with illegal immigrats crossing the channel via boat of which there are currently as of tuesday 31 May 2022 Up to 30,000 hotel rooms across the UK are being requisitioned by the Home Office every day to house asylum seekers, as they wait for their claims to be processed, GB News can reveal. A total of 37,000 asylum seekers are currently in hotel accommodation, at a cost to the UK taxpayer of almost £5 million a day. That’s £1,825,000,000 a year and growing and £135 per head per day just to house them, never mind the other stuff they given.
On 13 April, all local authorities in England, Scotland and Wales became an asylum dispersal area by default. This will require all local authorities to make more council housing stock and private rented accommodation available in their areas for the asylum seeker dispersal programme.
But the issue of integrating large groups of mainly young men in communities across the country remains controversial after several concerning incidents in recent months.
I don’t blame those on the frontline, as mostly their hands are tied or they just don’t see what is really going on or beleive what they are told as the gospel by what i see as cult leaders push the orders from above from their ulitmate masters the few the 1% who are conducted by only a few, The ultimate most powerful people who most many have never heard of and live in the shadows and the msm never mention or call you names for mentioning it or say it’s conspiracy but no it’s the workers fault and those who must pay for it all, us the citizens who all slaves to the debt in our names and as we seen with the covid crisis or the banking crisis, it all needs to be paid back.
I think he was being a little too fussy, but I felt worthwhile sharing the experience.
Always worth sharing, not once though in 11 years and handing back 4 cars on the scheme to 4 different dealers has anyone said anything regarding the condition of the car to me. That’s he did i find most strange?
Normally they do take pictures and send them to mb everytime they see the car for it’s service and when you finally hand it back mb make that descion not the dealer. Glad you got the gcb always nice to get a bit back and you should get £250 otp for getting a new car on the scheme.
Plus they giving money away to other causes, like they the lottery. Total agree Jojoe they made huge profits in last 6 months and i bet this next six moths when figures comeout they even bigger.
It is no surprise many are leaving the scheme or planning to do so when their current lease ends as many cannot get anything suitable or that has an affordable/justifiable ap, for their needs.
The current high aps make owning your own car more viable than ever and i recently left the scheme, so I will put that rise towards me? but it won’t be as high as the actual rate as its alower rate they use for benefits and since thy done that the allowance has fallen behind the cost of cars also? that not actually mb fault but add to the current situation.
I think new car prices will rise further due to energy cost and all other costs rising and some have already risen in the last few years by 26% well above inflation.
The scheme maybe good soon only for those that need a small car.
I think he’s being over cautious, unless the scratch was down to the metal and the dent was major.
Maybe due to many people off the scheme getting pcp contracts which are alot stricter that mb. My last car i handed back just over a month ago had a scratch albeit light, but all the way down the drivers side where someone i think keyed the car you could see white very easily as top blue paint was very thin and it had a small dent in the rear bumper from someones tow bar I got the gcb i was due as i handed the car back early.
On one car i even rang rsa about it and they said is it down to metal i said no and we agreed to leave it till end of lease and got the full gcb on that also.
Rox, Hanover is not going to heat public buildings from April to the end of September. This is often the case in offices anyway.
Indeed my bad
German city bans hot water in public buildings and swimming pools over Russian gas cuts
Residents have started taking cold showers as gas flow trickles to a halt.Gazprom has cut gas supplies altogether to Bulgaria, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands and Poland over their refusal to go along with a Kremlin order to pay their bills in roubles and not dollars or euros.
Yeah I’m totally confused too. The vehicle was given back to the dealer as previous owner didn’t need it anymore, I then managed to have a demo in it and it was perfect so demo report was sent off etc fast forward to Monday just gone when the application was submitted and then yesterday it was approved . Now dealer is saying the vehicle needs to be re-registered in my name by DVLA first before he can bring it he doesn’t know when that will be :/
I guess maybe it has to do with them bringing it to you and it needing to be registered in your name for them to then apply road tax for the car on you behalf and also that mb are the ones actually buyung the car and hold the v5, you can ask for a copy if needed but they get it.
I have not gotten a wav via the scehme but usually you have to go and collect the car and enter your pin at the dealers.
This might be why he cannot put road tax on the car until it is registered to yourself and mb will then get sent the v5 and my guess is maybe as it’s used it is different from new cars and also the fact it’s not a private sale directly to you but to mb.
I would call Motability up and see what they say about the situation?
