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My understanding the 14.2kW net battery size is the usable size, our Suzuki Across has a 18.1kW battery 14.3kW usable, if that is the case 55 EV miles seems achievable.
Yes net c16kw gross. You might be right, as it has an electric motor on rear axle for AWD, like the Across/Rav4, which will be lighter than the conventional AWD setup on da Tucson. The other thing that needs to be taken in consideration, is Toyota have perfected hybrids đ
The downside according to Fleet news long term test they achieved only 30mpg as a hybrid with a depleted battery.
I just cannot believe the AP being asking for run of the mill EV’s i.e Renault 4 and 5 etc these are not expensive vehicles especially as Mobility is VAT exempt, surely there must be better private lease deals out there.
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Iâve been limiting myself to EVs only but Iâve just noticed the BMW Xdrive 25e plug in hybrid as been included. AP still expensive but a lot better than some EVs . I had the old X1 2.0 diesel for four years and I enjoyed it and didnât want to change. Anybody know what the battery range is ? BMW reckon about 50.
Im afraid that I canât answer your question about the real world EV range, but just in case you werenât aware the new model X1 has a 3 cylinder 1.5 litre engine and not the brilliant 4 cylinder 2.0 units that we both had in our previous generation X1âs. To get a 2.0 engine you now need the â23â designated models, which are unfortunately not on Motability.
1.5l 3 pot mated to 14.2kW net battery, AWD (electric motor on rear axle) WLTP c52 miles, but bearing in mind the battery really isnât much larger than the Tucsonâs 13.8kW WLTP 43 miles. Perhaps, most alarming, is the loss of the i drive controller on anything under 3 series!
My understanding the 14.2kW net battery size is the usable size, our Suzuki Across has a 18.1kW battery 14.3kW usable, if that is the case 55 EV miles seems achievable.
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If they do cut the mileage it may be 10,000 per year, I would expect them to refuse the fitting of towbars or insist on removing at the end of the lease.
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If and that is a big if you are allowed to extend your lease what happens then
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
We tow with a Suzuki Across PHEV excellent tow car but like the RAV4 Ap just shy of ÂŁ7000
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What is your budget and weight of the caravan, can you charge up at home, do you have a towing distance in mind.
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Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
I changed over to an Apple MacBook about 18 months ago no more bloatware.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
Oscarmax, Our other car is an Ioniq 5 â an entirely different beast to the CX60. Really is a joy to drive, economical, fast and engaging. However, absolutely brilliant locally and close to unbeatable. Take it on holiday though â totally different due to the abysmal EV charging system this country has. NEVER had a public charger give more than 100W charging so using a fraction of the charging rate. 15 minute charges become an hour, probably because Costa have put a spanner in the charger to eke two mochachinoâs out if you! Thatâs if you find a working charger! Scotland â forget it. Love the car, detest the plonkers who charge 20x the October rate and then throttle it back!!
As were also tow a 1500kg caravan a fully EV is a no no especially as you point the the extorinate prices of public chargers, not sure about reliability or availability as I avoid them.
We have solar panels and battery plus a Podpoint 7kWh EV charger, we charge up both the battery and PHEV off peak, so for us a PHEV makes sense.
If you dislike the CX60 so much I would just kick it back to Mobility and take the ÂŁ250 hit, otherwise you are wasting ÂŁ77.05 per week over the next 12 months.
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We are just over 24 month into our Suzuki Across 36 month lease 100% love it, can’t see me paying ÂŁ6,999 AP now with the 36 lease restriction, In May 2026 when Mobility issue the 3 month notice I just hoping we can extend the lease another 24 months without too much fuss, lets see what happens.
PHEV are becoming horrifically expensive for quite basic models, EV AP at present are quite reasonable, however with the new governments grant scheme will this push the residual prices down on the lower end of the used EV market ? knock on effect increase lease loses resulting in higher EV AP
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Coming up to 2 years with the car now. All in all, quite easily the most disappointing car Iâve had the misfortune of driving! The niggles are far too numerous to go into in detail. Save to say, there are many lol. First and foremost, the ownership experience has been wrecked by just how poorly executed the whole car is. The software onboard is about as reliable as a snakes bowel movement. 8 â I repeat â 8 recalls in a two year period simply isnât acceptable. It will be back in tomorrow for a new battery ( not the EV one). The ride is terrible. almost like being on a trampoline doing 50MPH. For a massive car itâs very cramped inside for the occupants. Boot not very capacious. The driver safety features are fiendish and intrusive to the point of being downright dangerous. Every one has to be disengaged on every occasion upon starting. Cue every CX60 owner sitting blankly for a full minute whilst sifting the menus. Computer says canât be switched off or setting stored in memory. Positives â frugal when running on ICE ( bearing in mind itâs 340BHP!) HUGELY POWERFUL but completely unable to put the power through the wheels without scrabbling. Good job I drive like Reginald Molehusband. For a ÂŁ55K car itâs hopeless. To think I traded my daughterâs 12 year old up turned pram Fiat 500 for it!! Anyone thinking of getting one â DONâT. There are many better cars available. 4 out of 10
I take it you viewed and test drove the vehicle checked it meet your needs ?
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With 36 month only leases I can’t see many people opting for the high end AP.
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As previously stated, if this happens
In my lease (signed last thursday) the provision to extend the lease was removed. So, itâs not âifâ or âwhenâ, it already happened.That interesting, in May 26 according to my August 2023 signed contract I had the option to extend my lease an addition 24 months, if they play hard ball I will go private.
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My contract clearly states 36 lease which can be extended a further 24 months subject to term and conditions. There is nothing in my terms and condition stating I cannot extend only if I fail in my duty to uphold my part of the contract.
The original post is only Facebook hearsay not fact, servicing cost and tyres cost are minimal compared to 2 years incoming payments of ÂŁ8,013.20, Â The majority of the losses are within the first 12 months.
If Mobility  go down this route for new lease the scheme will become less atractive, there are those including myself may look outside the scheme.
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The wordings in there term and conditions change, our August 1st term states 5 pence per mile over 20,000 miles per year, also 24 month extension subject to terms and condition, in the terms there is nothing regarding maximum mileage, just your responsibility to Mobility.
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I strongly believe this is mis information, if they do try an impose a change in contract I will strongly challenge it, I have legal advice on my house insurance.
I have briefly looked through my ‘Terms and Condition’ the only clause relevant clause I can see is 5 pence per mile over 20,000 miles per year.
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Earlier this year I had a chat with Mobility they confirmed if my mileage is 20,000 or less they will extend the lease for another 24 months, I explained I may be slightly over that at the end of our 36 month lease, they confirmed  as long as my mileage at the 33 mont time of extending my lease, if my mileage was 21,000/22,000 they would allow an 24 month extension.
My lease documents signed in August 2023 clearly states the 24 month extension, they there our changing the term of the lease.
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This is mis information.
Eitherway they may be lining up for some very large increase in AP, knowing well that they have a captive audience.
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Why is it so difficult to get a curtesy car when yours is in for repair, I used to get one through the dealership in times gone by but now I have been waiting a week, and still nothing. Trying to get in touch is something else too.
Someone started a separate thread on this very issue the other day, so your answers will be found there. In summary, many dealerships seem to have cut back on the number of courtesy cars (some no longer have any at all) and also collect and return services. Our local Ford dealership no longer has courtesy cars but offers collect and return if you book well in advance. Our local Hyundai dealership stopped collect and return for all but Motability customers but again, you need to book well in advance. A third option is asking for a demonstrator. If booking a car in for a service I always book 4-6 weeks in advance to ensure that I can get one of these services. If you try a week or two before you will struggle.
Some dealer don’t even have demonstrators as I found out with Suzuki, its all call centre based.
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Nice Joss â and the right choice!
There (all hybrids) often portrayed as diesel like economy, yet fall flat on their promise at highway speeds. Round town they can pay off, especially PHEV, but thats where the benefits stop. I went PHEV this time round as a trial based soley on taking my youngest (by far) daughter to and from school, which equates to 400 miles and on Octopus go, it costs just shy of ÂŁ15, which works out less per month, than a weeks worth petrol in the previous car. Thankfully this offsets my nearly 400 mile month run. However, they are flawed outside that circle and I wonât be having another, plus my daughter will be soon 19 and finished school at end of this lease đ
Just goes to show the difference between different manufactures hybrid and PHEV systems, we are still happy with our Suzuki Across nearly 60 miles EV in the summer local driving plus 55 mpg on holiday with a depleted battery.
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Are you looking at the Kuga PHEV or a standard Hybrid either way 52mpg is easily achievable, personally I would go for the Toyota.
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Use a Stoplock it fits through the steering wheel, thieves will look for an easy fast target.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
To date the granny charger supplied with the Suzuki has not been used, in 2020 under the ÂŁ350 grant scheme we had a tethered 7kW Podpoint charger.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
They could always have my disability along with my so called free car.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
