Model Debates

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  • #315007
    joesto
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      I see so much conflicting information wherever I look these days, namely on here or on the Facebook Motability page.

      How do we go about getting definitive information on what model it is you might be ordering.

      For example:

      Kia Sportage PHEV – is this the new facelift model?

      Mercedes CLA – again, new model or old model?

      How’s best to get this information?

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    • #315008
      Rene
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        Sometimes you can get away with looking at the “engine” tab, since more often than not, engine specifications (battery size, hp etc) change, as well as the picture (if it’s a bigger facelift).

        Otherwise.. Safest bet is to simply call a dealership of your choice.

        Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
        Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
        Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

        #315009
        Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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          Yes I’d call in local dealer talk with the motability man should get coffee and two hob nob biscuits too

          #315010
          Rene
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            For the models you mentioned, as an example: the picture of the CLA is the current/”old” model. That coincides with the fact that the new/facelifted CLA Estate isn’t available to order yet.

            For the Sportage, same thing. The picture shows the old variant (triangular DLR, the new one has vertical DLR) – and of course the issue that the new Sportage doesn’t come as a PHEV, but just as HEVs.

            So both those models are the “older” variants.

            Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
            Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
            Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

            #315012
            Woodpecker
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              Each car has a unique identifying number, am not sure if each trim version has a unique number as well, it should really. Its a number the dealer enters into the Motability application which lets them know what is ordered.

              Older and new models have different numbers.

              E.g. merc CLA on the motability car search is something like 672103. If you call the dealership and give them the number, they can tell you what the MY25 or the model year number.

              But generally, if its a cheap deal they are moving old stock until the newer model comes aling with a higher AP.

              #315018
              joesto
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                In years gone by, the photos aren’t always anything to go by.

                There is a PHEV on the new Sportage, just not yet on road, but can be ordered from a retail point of view.

                #315020
                ChrisK
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                  My 3 years are up next month but hoping to keep the car another year or so but just encase I’ve been eyeing up the KIA Sportage GT-Line S PHEW (VW’s just too expensive for me for what you get) and came to conclusion that at £2999 AP that has to be the pre-face model but for what you get I think its still a bargain, something we’re not seeing much of lately.

                  I think when the face lift model comes on it will be up in the £5k > £6k AP area for this particular trim and model.

                  #315021
                  Rene
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                    There is a PHEV on the new Sportage, just not yet on road, but can be ordered from a retail point of view.

                    No, it can’t be ordered.

                    Also, pictures so far have always been accurate for me – when the Enyaq had the facelift, for example. Same for the Golf, and the Ateca before.

                    edit: details to the PHEV haven’t even been released yet, see whatcar review from 6 days ago.

                    edit2: the only thing that might’ve happened is, looking at the prices, that they’re selling both old and new Sportage at the same time. The PHEV GT Line S is cheaper than the HEV GT Line S, considerably. Considering that there is no facelift PHEV and won’t be for a while and the picture on the website for Kia Motability showing the newer variant.. That’s a potential explanation. Usually PHEVs are rather expensive on the scheme, certainly more than FHEVs.

                    Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                    Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                    Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                    #315023
                    joesto
                    Participant

                      Thanks Rene.

                      Such a disappointing Q4 pricelist has left me flapping!

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                      #315025
                      ChrisK
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                        My 3 years are up next month but hoping to keep the car another year or so but just encase I’ve been eyeing up the KIA Sportage GT-Line S PHEW (VW’s just too expensive for me for what you get) and came to conclusion that at £2999 AP that has to be the pre-face model but for what you get I think its still a bargain, something we’re not seeing much of lately. I think when the face lift model comes on it will be up in the £5k > £6k AP area for this particular trim and model.

                        That said this is a bit misleading from the KIA website…from KIA

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                        #315026
                        Rene
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                          Thanks Rene. Such a disappointing Q4 pricelist has left me flapping!

                          Not sure why my post disappeared, i did do an edit.

                          It may be worth calling Kia – on their website it shows the new model in the MB list (the picture, i mean). The GT Line S PHEV is considerably cheaper than the GT Line S HEV, makes me wonder if they maybe sell both at the same time – the HEV as facelifted model, the PHEV from stock.

                          I’d call, for sure.

                          And yeah, we got our car 4 weeks ago, pretty grateful for that.. Can’t really see much tickling me funny in the current list. Can you stretch to next quarter?

                          Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                          Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                          Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                          #315034
                          joesto
                          Participant

                            Yea – 6th November is my date.

                            Had totally lined up the Enyaq in my head but the price has gone mad and for a lesser model.

                            May just put an order in for something that I wouldn’t be totally disappointed with (eyeing up the Tucson N-Line PHEV) and see if Q1 brings anything better than current.

                            I was going to opt for a EV but wanted decent mileage, as a minimum I’ll want a PHEV as the Mrs has an electric car so already got home charging set up.

                            #315035
                            kezo
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                              The PHEV is the old model 241bhp (was 265) Hyundai/Kia lowered output, but whils’t the Tucson got a higher kW electric motor for it’s MY25 PHEV, Kia continued to used the the original electric motors, untill such time the facelift PHEV launched hence 241bhp.

                              #315036
                              joesto
                              Participant

                                Do you think the Tucsons listed this quarter are MY25 or MY26?

                                #315145
                                ChrisK
                                Participant

                                  Looks like Motability have updated the price list for the KIA Sportage and shows the new face lift model in the photos above each variant.

                                  How reliable that is I don’t know but assume someone has done some homework on it but going by this the PHEW is the older model while the face lift is also available but not as a PHEW what I can make of it.

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