Long Term thread – Options for my next car

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  • #306694
    MFillingham
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      Here’s the starting point for me deciding what my next car will be.  I’ve some set criteria:

      Electric – if you don’t like them, good for you but this will be my 4th, I’m not going back now.

      Comfortable seats – Both myself and my wife have spinal issues, sitting on the wrong chairs can be incredibly painful and rather quickly too.  I’d hate to have a car that I can only drive locally because after half an hour I can’t actually get out of the damn thing.  Heating and Cooling seats would be good, heated is essential though, it’s amazing how that can help the back.

      Electric tailgate – again with the back issues, stretching up to pull a boot door down, especially if the gas struts put up some resistance, is a problem.

      HUD – I’ve gotten used to it now, I can’t remember the last time I looked at the dash to see how fast I’m going.

      Wireless Apple Carplay –  Pretty much all I listen to is on the phone, it’s either music or audio books but I rarely listen to the radio as it’s usually crap down here.

       

      As you can imagine the current selection is rather lengthy.  I’ve barely began whittling them down so here we go, in no particular order:

      Ioniq 5

      Enyaq

      Elroq

      Capri (I know but it’s not a bad car)

      Grandland

      Scenic

      Mach E

      Ariya

       

      Budget depends on just how much I can save, which means it won’t be excessive, so that will drop a lot off the list.  Currently to replace what I have, thanks to the model changes, would cost something around £6.5k, which isn’t happening.  If I could save that in 3 years, I’d be much richer than I am in reality.

       

      Front runners based on budget and equipment are either of the Skodas and the Scenic at the moment.  I don’t care about the Elroq dropping off the scheme next quarter, it’ll be back before it matters to me. I’m still hoping the EV3 comes onto scheme and sticks around, that’d be a nice option, although I expect KIA pricing will put it higher than the Fords.

       

      I’ve learnt some lessons from my last search, so the infamous spreadsheet is being updated each quarter, with a new tab holding the new quarter’s pricing and leaving previous quarters for reference.  I’m hoping this may provide some interesting insights once the car is chosen, looking at where prices and models have come/gone.

       

      I’ll update as I start to whittle out some options and as new quarters add a new perspective on the search.  If there’s anything anyone wishes to add, I’m always open to opinions.

       

      I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
      I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

      Mark

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    • #312965
      wmcforum
      Which Mobility Car

        @kezo Turns out we have run out of memory, the package we are on is all we can justify, hence the critical errors occurring. I am on a purge of old stuff. Sorry.

        #312966
        kezo
        Participant

          @kezo Turns out we have run out of memory, the package we are on is all we can justify, hence the critical errors occurring. I am on a purge of old stuff. Sorry.

          You can get rid of that old TV thread now, many pages/video’s) and out of date. As for Mike…!

          What cought your eye in news today, can also go.

          Along with any nonsense thread of mine 🙂

          #315166
          MFillingham
          Participant

            Oh My!!!

            I’ve had a thorough reflection on this quarter’s changes and it’s quite bleak.  The recurring thought has been “Thank God I don’t have to place an order this quarter”.

            Cars I was looking at:

            Enyaq – Out priced

            Elroq – Long gone

            Ariya – Gone

            Ford Explorer & Capri – Nope, not at that price

            With the IM6 not arriving and not exactly leaving me convinced it’s for us despite being a great car, I started looking at what was around at the right price and not on the scheme and there’s not to huge a choice that I’d like to see added.

            I didn’t think my requirements were horrendous – BEV, Powered front seats, preferably heated and cooled, powered tailgate, seats have to be sufficiently comfortable for 2 people with spine issues, space has to be enough for me to be comfortable (large guy who’s autism requires some space around him) and it needs to be able to do 200 miles in winter.  That’s not horrendous, there’s plenty out there capable of doing that without costing stupid money but my budget is preferable up to £3k AP, £3.5 at a push.

            Like others, I’m hoping that the current pricing increases will adjust themselves over the next year and I’m not looking at having to find nearly double my budget while everything else is just getting too expensive fro saving to increase.

            It all feels a little bleak, I can see why I see so many saying they’re seriously considering the value of the Scheme, although I don’t really have the alternatives of others.

            I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
            I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

            Mark

            #315169
            kezo
            Participant

              It all feels a little bleak, I can see why I see so many saying they’re seriously considering the value of the Scheme, although I don’t really have the alternatives of others.

              Indeed, it currently being discussed in the Hyundai Tucson test drive topic.

              MGS5 appeal or moving back to ICE – HS Trophy  hybrid or PHEV, ajn got one for nowt and it’s alot of car for nowt!

              Have you considered buying an EV newish / nearly new from auction? Whilst depreciation won’t be great, they are heavily discounted as you know, so suspect it will balance out of a period.

              Hopefuly things will right themselves, though I think higher AP’s are here to stay!

              #315173
              Rene
              Participant

                I didn’t think my requirements were horrendous – BEV, Powered front seats, preferably heated and cooled, powered tailgate, seats have to be sufficiently comfortable for 2 people with spine issues, space has to be enough for me to be comfortable (large guy who’s autism requires some space around him) and it needs to be able to do 200 miles in winter. That’s not horrendous, there’s plenty out there capable of doing that without costing stupid money but my budget is preferable up to £3k AP, £3.5 at a push.

                Purely based on what’s written there, the Ioniq 6 matches all requirements.

                It’s not even that low (battery in the floor, plus seats height adjustable), certainly high enough for my wife with severe hip issues to get in comfortably.

                May be worth giving at least a test-sit.

                 

                Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                #315175
                MFillingham
                Participant

                  It all feels a little bleak, I can see why I see so many saying they’re seriously considering the value of the Scheme, although I don’t really have the alternatives of others.

                  Indeed, it currently being discussed in the Hyundai Tucson test drive topic. MGS5 appeal or moving back to ICE – HS Trophy hybrid or PHEV, ajn got one for nowt and it’s alot of car for nowt! Have you considered buying an EV newish / nearly new from auction? Whilst depreciation won’t be great, they are heavily discounted as you know, so suspect it will balance out of a period. Hopefuly things will right themselves, though I think higher AP’s are here to stay!

                  Unfortunately being unable to work means I have to save money from somewhere before buying anything, whilst I cou8ld probably do a decent job of getting together some decent money just by saving my PIP mobility element it leaves me unable to drive until I’ve got the cash together.

                   

                   

                   

                  I didn’t think my requirements were horrendous – BEV, Powered front seats, preferably heated and cooled, powered tailgate, seats have to be sufficiently comfortable for 2 people with spine issues, space has to be enough for me to be comfortable (large guy who’s autism requires some space around him) and it needs to be able to do 200 miles in winter. That’s not horrendous, there’s plenty out there capable of doing that without costing stupid money but my budget is preferable up to £3k AP, £3.5 at a push.

                  Purely based on what’s written there, the Ioniq 6 matches all requirements. It’s not even that low (battery in the floor, plus seats height adjustable), certainly high enough for my wife with severe hip issues to get in comfortably. May be worth giving at least a test-sit.

                   

                  We test drove the 6 before getting the 5, it’s a lovely car, although we preferred the 5 for ride comfort.  The major problem we found with it was that the back felt like it was in a cave, which isn’t helpful for long journeys when one passenger has anxiety and the other back issues.  The 6 is also a longer car and having reversed the 5 into our drive many times now, I’m glad I didn’t have to negotiate that with a much longer car, there really isn’t much space with a van usually parked on one side and someone’s car parked infront of our fence and not much road width, it turns into a much tighter corner than you’d like when the gate itself is only a few inches spare each side.  Maybe if there was a version with a pano roof, it might feel a bit better.

                  I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
                  I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

                  Mark

                  #315177
                  Woodpecker
                  Participant

                    I was looking at a review of the Kia pv5 a couple of days ago.

                    Even for its van like shape, its gonna be very popular at its price point. It should make it on to the scheme next year.

                    #315296
                    kezo
                    Participant

                      Unfortunately being unable to work means I have to save money from somewhere before buying anything, whilst I cou8ld probably do a decent job of getting together some decent money just by saving my PIP mobility element it leaves me unable to drive until I’ve got the cash together.

                      Sorry mate, a question, I shouldn’t have really asked and put you on the spot.

                      To get heated and ventilated seats, your look at Hyundai N Line S / Ultimate or Kia GT  Line S from memory. I don’t remember any other manufacturer on the scheme, apart from maybe some of the Chinese newcomers.

                      Hyundai Kona Ultimate? 319 miles on 17″ wheels or like the Ultimate / N line S on 19″ 280ish miles.

                      I expect the Jaecoo E5 to have made it to the scheme by the time your up for renewal. If you have ever want a Rnge Rover, but concerned about reliability, this maybe the car for you😂

                       

                       

                      #315297
                      Rene
                      Participant

                        We test drove the 6 before getting the 5, it’s a lovely car, although we preferred the 5 for ride comfort. The major problem we found with it was that the back felt like it was in a cave, which isn’t helpful for long journeys when one passenger has anxiety and the other back issues. The 6 is also a longer car and having reversed the 5 into our drive many times now, I’m glad I didn’t have to negotiate that with a much longer car, there really isn’t much space with a van usually parked on one side and someone’s car parked infront of our fence and not much road width, it turns into a much tighter corner than you’d like when the gate itself is only a few inches spare each side. Maybe if there was a version with a pano roof, it might feel a bit better.

                        That’s fair, it is indeed quite.. substantial. Our autistic nephew (16 years old) loves it in the rear, precisely due to the “cave” (“fort”) nature, reducing external stimulation quite a bit.

                        The Ioniq 6 does have a sunroof, as an aside. Not panoramic, but it opens, which i personally prefer (and, again imo, makes a car feel much more airy). Similar for my wife which also has anxiety issues – but, of course, that’s a spectrum.

                        There’s no getting around the size though, if that’s not a good fit (and i can very much understand that), then it’s not an option.

                        The Jaecoo is an absolute minger, imho – it’s a deranged Rover from Temu, with a very traditionally chinese grille. Drives quite awful, too. The Kona of course is always a solid recommendation, past that.. maybe the ID3, maybe the E-Vitara (not 100% sure on range for that one), MGS5, and, well.. that’s it for the budget in the current (absolutely horrendous) list.

                        As a small aside, without peeking etc too much.. the way we save up for MB cars (at least partially) is through the energy bill, lol. After the Ukraine war broke out, when energy bills (slightly, sigh) relaxed, we added a 10% overhead to the bill, building credit over the years. When it came to ordering the Ioniq 6, we requested a partial refund on our credit and paid with no issues.

                        Of course you could just set money aside monthly manually, but doing it this way made it easier for us personally. No temptations. I know that there are better alternatives, but that worked for us.

                        Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                        Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                        Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                        #315305
                        kezo
                        Participant

                          The Jaecoo is an absolute minger, imho – it’s a deranged Rover from Temu, with a very traditionally chinese grille. Drives quite awful, too

                          🤣🤣

                          It’s not a driver enthusiast car thats for sure, but early reviews suggest for everone who just wants an A to B car at the price point it’s good enough. Like Tesla it’s touchscreen crazy, suspension is firm, but interior quality and comfort is pretty good, it has all the kit you could ever wish for, inclusive of bing bongs galore, but what do you expect for £30k these days?  Why isn’t China man fitting bigger batteies to these cars though! Anyway it goes on sale this month.

                          Perhaps it can be forgiven for looking a bit like an Evoque, given parent company Chery, has a 50:50 joint venture between UK-headquartered Jaguar Land Rover,  a subsidiary of Tata Motors of India and Chinese automaker Chery, which was formed to allow production of Jaguar Cars and Land Rover vehicles in Chery’s mainland China factory. There’s a very good chance Chery brands reliability is better😂

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                          #315307
                          Woodpecker
                          Participant

                            Jaecoo, not my cup of tea, but its really cheap to lease.

                            On Octopus lease its £315/month, £20 cheaper than Motability, with £1800 AP for 4 years.

                            I.ve seen a couple on the road and they do look quite good.  People will mistake it for a Range Rover, as its a good  copy, only more reliable and unlikely to get stolen.

                            #315309
                            kezo
                            Participant

                              Jaecoo, not my cup of tea, but its really cheap to lease. On Octopus lease its £315/month, £20 cheaper than Motability, with £1800 AP for 4 years. I.ve seen a couple on the road and they do look quite good. People

                              will mistake it for a Range Rover, as its a good copy, only more reliable and unlikely to get stolen.

                              Not sure it’s on the scheme yet, as it’s only just gone on sale. I think it will become a popular car outside  school gates, especially by mums who can’t stretch to Evoque class. Going by various reviews, it’s a much better car than the Jaecoo 7 that came last year, which has seen a strong foothold since launch, possibly due to people not will to spend more in recent times.

                               

                              #315310
                              wmcforum
                              Which Mobility Car

                                On Octopus lease its £315/month, £20 cheaper than Motability, with £1890 AP for 4 years.

                                For 5000 miles a year. For 20000 miles it goes up to:

                                £385 per month with £2310 upfront.

                                #315311
                                Rene
                                Participant

                                  My bad, i was looking at the petrol variant of that car. The EV looks slightly better, the grille of the ICE variant is beyond redemption.

                                  Not my thing. Not because it’s chinese, it’s just.. a bit shite, isn’t it. A clone is a clone, it’s lazy. You can argue that cars nowadays all become somewhat similar, and that’s true – but that usually is in the pursuit of efficiency, of which there is simply only one reasonable path to optimum, so everything looks mostly similar (Tesla Model 3 and BYD Seal , for example – though i much prefer the Seal, visually).

                                  This is copying/cloning a design. Particularly the boot shape is simply unmistakably deranged Rover. Copying design on purpose is naughty. When some random chinese manufacturer tried that with “cloned” Smart Fortwos in germany a few (many) years ago, authorities simply seized the entire load as it came off the Ro-Ro, to be crushed. Forgot what the car was called, but basically looked like a Smart Fortwo.

                                  It’s like wearing a fake Rolex. Really says it all, in itself.

                                  That’s my opinion though, of course that’s not omnipotent. I do think there are good looking chinese cars out there, be it the BYD Seal, MG HS, Omoda 9 etc – this one ain’t one of them, for me.

                                  Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                                  Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                                  Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                                  #315312
                                  Woodpecker
                                  Participant

                                    On Octopus lease its £315/month, £20 cheaper than Motability, with £1890 AP for 4 years.

                                    For 5000 miles a year. For 20000 miles it goes up to: £385 per month with £2310 upfront.

                                    Indeed, but not many users actually do 20K /year, and motability does not give a discount for low miles.

                                    But if you only do 5K miles/year, its cheap as chips , especially for 4 year term. Yes you do have to insure it. But still…its better than what motability offers.

                                    If your PIP amount increases, with inflation, it goes in your pocket and not motability,s.

                                    #315313
                                    kezo
                                    Participant

                                      My bad, i was looking at the petrol variant of that car. The EV looks slightly better, the grille of the ICE variant is beyond redemption. Not my thing. Not because it’s chinese, it’s just.. a bit shite, isn’t it. A clone is a clone, it’s lazy. You can argue that cars nowadays all become somewhat similar, and that’s true – but that usually is in the pursuit of efficiency, of which there is simply only one reasonable path to optimum, so everything looks mostly similar (Tesla Model 3 and BYD Seal , for example – though i much prefer the Seal, visually). This is copying/cloning a design. Particularly the boot shape is simply unmistakably deranged Rover. Copying design on purpose is naughty. When some random chinese manufacturer tried that with “cloned” Smart Fortwos in germany a few (many) years ago, authorities simply seized the entire load as it came off the Ro-Ro, to be crushed. Forgot what the car was called, but basically looked like a Smart Fortwo. It’s like wearing a fake Rolex. Really says it all, in itself. That’s my opinion though, of course that’s not omnipotent. I do think there are good looking chinese cars out there, be it the BYD Seal, MG HS, Omoda 9 etc – this one ain’t one of them, for me.

                                      I actually agree with what your saying, but to the right audience it will appeal. I don’t know what it’s like a few miles down the road where you are, but round here, the Jaecoo 7 got hugely popular and there isn’t a day go by, I don’t see one! Mind you, Hyundai isn’t entirely innocent in the dupe world and the cars it designs of the cuff, if I’m hones are quite frankly weird.

                                      The Seal & Sealion are realy nice lookers,  as is the new HS. The Omoda 9, looks similar to the 5 outside, interior quality, would put many european brands to shame.

                                      As for clones/dupes, everyone is at it, even Next for exampe, with their fragrance are dupes of expensive brands, it’ the sign of the times. As for a Rolex clone, that wouldn’t be my style, but I do have a Galaxy watch clone from Ali😂 and thats only because I’m a tight barstwered and keep breaking them. I also remember buting my dad a watch once and he said that looks expensive, my reply was yeh, it was a £2 Ali special😂

                                      #315314
                                      MFillingham
                                      Participant

                                        On Octopus lease its £315/month, £20 cheaper than Motability, with £1890 AP for 4 years.

                                        For 5000 miles a year. For 20000 miles it goes up to: £385 per month with £2310 upfront.

                                        Indeed, but not many users actually do 20K /year, and motability does not give a discount for low miles. But if you only do 5K miles/year, it’s cheap as chips , especially for 4 year term. Yes you do have to insure it. But still…it’s better than what motability offers. If your PIP amount increases, with inflation, it goes in your pocket and not motability,s.

                                        Even if I only did 5k a year, which I exceed, there’s still insurance and servicing and RAC with all the repair costs included, plus tyres.

                                        Whilst I agree that leasing could be a suitable alternative, that requires you working and having a decent credit score.  For those of us not working, that leads to a problem where, at best, costs rise.

                                        The current offerings aren’t fantastic but I’ve got a year yet and we all know so much can change in that time.  Worst case I will go to the grants team and say the 5 is suitable and they’ll extend it.

                                        I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
                                        I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

                                        Mark

                                        #315315
                                        kezo
                                        Participant

                                          Mark, it’s not as if you need to change tomrrow, so there is still plenty of time for things to change, Though I appreciate you Autism probably won’t agree with this however, 12 months is a long time in the world of Motability and, as you have mentioned, there’s always the nuclear opyion to extend the 5.


                                          @BigDave
                                          ‘s deals thread is certainly worth following , if your not doing so already, as there are currently more cars going through that thread, than a a Wednesday night auction round here.

                                          The important thing, is not to stress over it too much at this stage, it will all fall into place when the times right my friend.

                                          • This reply was modified 5 months, 1 week ago by kezo.
                                          #315316
                                          Woodpecker
                                          Participant

                                            Even if I only did 5k a year, which I exceed, there’s still insurance and servicing and RAC with all the repair costs included, plus tyres. Whilst I agree that leasing could be a suitable alternative, that requires you working and having a decent credit score. For those of us not working, that leads to a problem where, at best, costs rise. The current offerings aren’t fantastic but I’ve got a year yet and we all know so much can change in that time. Worst case I will go to the grants team and say the 5 is suitable and they’ll extend it.

                                            Mark, a lot can happen in a year. Best case scenario put away as much as you can afford and see what is available. This quarter is a tough one for sure. But next year may be better.

                                            There are always options available.

                                            #315319
                                            MFillingham
                                            Participant

                                              Thanks gents.  I’m aware there’s plenty of time and that things can dramatically change, hopefully for the much better than this quarter hit.  @kezo you’re right it’s an Autism thing, I see the price increases and immediately calculate the effects that will have for the next lease and potentially for several leases.  Seeing scenarios through logically in seconds is fantastic in the right situation but can be a real pain when it’s something that wasn’t particularly significant until your brain took over and got straight to a major problem in seconds without pausing to recognise the timescales and potential for change.

                                              I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
                                              I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

                                              Mark

                                              #315320
                                              Rene
                                              Participant

                                                Thanks gents. I’m aware there’s plenty of time and that things can dramatically change, hopefully for the much better than this quarter hit. @kezo you’re right it’s an Autism thing, I see the price increases and immediately calculate the effects that will have for the next lease and potentially for several leases. Seeing scenarios through logically in seconds is fantastic in the right situation but can be a real pain when it’s something that wasn’t particularly significant until your brain took over and got straight to a major problem in seconds without pausing to recognise the timescales and potential for change.

                                                Hyperfocus can have many sources, including ADHD. I would know, we test drove the first time for the next lease in december 2024 – our order window originally was for february 2026 lol.

                                                On the upside, because of that, we cancelled the Golf early and scored the Ioniq 6 for £900.

                                                For the majority of time, i’d consider Hyperfocus a boon, but can turn (as you pointed out) quite quickly into anxiety and even panic when something unforeseen changes.

                                                I actually agree with what your saying, but to the right audience it will appeal. I don’t know what it’s like a few miles down the road where you are, but round here, the Jaecoo 7 got hugely popular and there isn’t a day go by, I don’t see one! Mind you, Hyundai isn’t entirely innocent in the dupe world and the cars it designs of the cuff, if I’m hones are quite frankly weird. The Seal & Sealion are realy nice lookers, as is the new HS. The Omoda 9, looks similar to the 5 outside, interior quality, would put many european brands to shame. As for clones/dupes, everyone is at it, even Next for exampe, with their fragrance are dupes of expensive brands, it’ the sign of the times. As for a Rolex clone, that wouldn’t be my style, but I do have a Galaxy watch clone from Ali😂 and thats only because I’m a tight barstwered and keep breaking them. I also remember buting my dad a watch once and he said that looks expensive, my reply was yeh, it was a £2 Ali special😂

                                                Many MG HS around here, few Capris and Explorers, loads of ID4, Q4 and Enyaqs – Omoda, Jaecoo etc i don’t think i’ve ever seen one here, need to go to Bridgend/Cardiff to see those.

                                                I didn’t think that Hyundai cars look like clones, can’t really tell which cars you’re referring to. The Ioniq 5 and 6 did look odd in the beginning, but i actually appreciate them now. The 5 being the pixely “large Golf”, and the 6 being similar to an older CLS. The Tucson took a minute to grow on me, Kona is kind of rare around here so i don’t really have an opinion on it. Econoboxes are Econoboxes (i10 etc), they all look the same from all manufacturers. Bayon and Inster are very.. unique, Santa Fe is a shoebox, looks like all shoeboxes (but a good looking shoebox).

                                                I am not fluent in fragrances, i got my yearly gift of Dior Sauvage, that’s about all i know. I actually have the Galaxy Watch 8, had it pre-ordered. Not sure how one could break it, it’s not more fragile than any other watch. Objectively, i just use it for club cards (and getting the Laser Gun in Tesco etc), and payment. All the other stuff is whatever – on that one it’s just OCD, got Samsung Phone, Samsung Earbuds, Samsung Microwave, washing machine and tumble dryer – might as well add the watch, lol.

                                                If there’s no rush to the next lease (i wasn’t aware of the timeframe), then, phew. I’m pretty sure it’ll get slightly better coming next quarter, or the one after (particularly for EVs, when manufacturers still have to fill quotas).

                                                Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
                                                Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
                                                Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

                                                #324717
                                                MFillingham
                                                Participant

                                                  A bit of an update, just in case anyone is vaguely interested. There’s a few midsized SUVs that are on the scheme now that weren’t when this thread started namely the Jaecoo 5, JEEP Compass and the MGs5.  There’s also the likely additions, the MGs6, EV4 and 5, rumours of the IM5&6 are still around.

                                                   

                                                  The needs list is still pretty stable, we need a lot of boot space as when we go away now there’s Mrs F’s walker plus baggage and, potentially, a dog crate.  Seats have to be comfortable as both adults have spine issues and that means that these are probably the only seats I have to be able to sit relatively still  in for over an hour, something I can’t do even on the sofa.  Electric tailgate is a must, there are times, especially after shopping, where reaching up to the boot door can be a painful experience, I really don’t want to be having to pull down the tailgate on a bad day, I can currently use the key fob if reaching up isn’t an option.  heating and cooling seats are essential (heating essential, cooling nice), ideally I’d have separate heating for the seat backs over all the seat heating at once but I can deal with either really.  Electric seats usually mean more comfortable and definitely easier to adjust.  I’d want a 360 degree camera to safe all the twisting when reversing.  I’d also prefer a heads up display, just because I’ve gotten used to it, but that’s not a deal breaker.   I don’t think that’s too excessive a list, I’ve definitely seen bigger ones.

                                                  Pricing is an issue, with my order date being the wrong side of the VAT addition things are looking expensive.  I can justify spending so much but there’s a point where the AP on a 3 year lease, followed by similar, leads to a question of getting a used car, around the same age as the Ioniq 5, which will last for a good 9 years more, that’s 3 APs to put into that car, although all the insurance and maintenance will make life a touch more complicated. So, I’d much prefer to stay with an affordable Scheme car and know that it’s all covered.  However, I’m not convinced I’m going to be that lucky.

                                                   

                                                  I’m getting ready next week for 2026 Q1, with and anticipated rush of new cars and potential for some nice price drops.  The EV3, Jaecoo e5 and the electric JEEP are all candidates as the current APs are insane.

                                                  I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
                                                  I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

                                                  Mark

                                                  #324721
                                                  DJ Kav
                                                  Participant

                                                    My needs list is similar to yours.

                                                    My 3 month window opens up on the 11th of Jan, and lease end on the 11th of April.

                                                    So I’m looking at Q1 and maybe Q2, if I want to chance it.

                                                    I’ll go looking and test driving in Jan. I just hope I don’t get someone who sits with you and tells you where to go on a test drive. I drive on a variety of roads, and need to test road conditions and comfort.

                                                    I have ASD and thus have difficulty with social and understanding information, written and verbal. I process information in logical blocks, before I reply. Sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong.
                                                    I also have a corneal visual condition, which makes me visually impaired without daytime, or daytime bulbs, among other disabilities/conditions.

                                                    #324722
                                                    mitch
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                                                      i can renew on 28 feb lease end 28 may.

                                                      so i should miss any vat shenanigans.

                                                      my needs revolve around drivers seat getting in and out maybe an electric tailgate would be nice.

                                                      so far its:

                                                      c3 max hybrid £ 0ap £85.35/week.

                                                      c3 aircross max hybrid £546

                                                      juke tekna hybrid £452

                                                      qq nconnecta e-power £234

                                                      and an outsider on the rails this weekend mg zs hybrid + trophy £115

                                                      test drives needed in all but exit/entry seems fine in all.

                                                       

                                                      #325989
                                                      MFillingham
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                                                        So, after the new quarter and all its changes, I went and had a look at our local KIA dealership.  I got the saleswoman I really didn’t want as she’s not a fan of EVs and has little concern for Motability, so looking for an EV on the scheme didn’t sit that well with her.  I had a sit in the EV3, there’s some things I really liked, physical buttons on the doors for heating seats and steering wheel, the relaxation seats in the GT Line S were a familiar level of comfort.  Apparently, the headrests in the rear were a few inches behind where they’d be comfortable but that was the only negative.

                                                        We then moved to the EV5, which is definitely much bigger.  Lots of space everywhere and the GT Line was still very comfortable with loads of room in the back.  The boot is huge.  I was a little annoyed that I was flat out told it wasn’t on the scheme, until I told her both APs and she’d looked it up and, grudgingly, unlocked the car.

                                                        Id love to be able to have the EV5 GT Line for 3 years but it’d need to have a very unlikely price cut at just the right time.  The space, equipment and look of the car I do rather like, price I rather don’t.  The EV3 is still an option although the rear seat headrest means it’s not top of an increasingly short list.

                                                        I also saw a 24 plate EV 9 GT Line up for sale, at 18 months old it was down to £47k and I was quite sure I could get one cheaper outside Cornwall.  However, what started around £74k now available for less than £50k was a healthy third off after 2 years.  Worth keeping in mind should I find a spare few hundred grand behind the sofa.

                                                        I'm Autistic, if I say something you find offensive, please let me know, I can guarantee it was unintentional.
                                                        I'll try to give my honest opinion but am always open to learning.

                                                        Mark

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