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You say you’d rather be in Scotland…my wife just got switched over and within a week they then sent her a letter changing her next ADP assessment date from June ’26 to May ’25.
And they will make the same changes, perhaps worse, as they can (and always do say) that its Westminster to blame…
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We applied but never got the BP charger, so I had our own Viridian dumb unit (brilliant quality) charger fitted. I just use Octopus Go with my Ioniq 5, use the car’s own charge schedule software to charge between 12.30 – 5.30am. The price difference has come down, Go is now 8.1p, vs Intelligent Go at 7p, so there isn’t much in it except for the extra slots provided by Intelligent Go – although recent changes there have seen them reduced as Octopus refines its software and understanding of the process.
Tried to get a new unit with Motability when we ordered the Ioniq 5, All seemed well, until Ohme did a survey of our place and said no chance – despite it just being a direct swap of the existing unit (same RCB, same 6mm cable).
EON Next Drive looks good, a saving with its 6.7p off-peak car charge rate, but its peak fees are over a penny more than Octopus, Standing charges are 6p more, so no savings to be had for us there.
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About the only car on the scheme that gives 320 miles WLTP as electric (on 17″ wheels) and also available as a hybrid would be the Hyundai Kona.
Deepest winter would be around 200-220 miles at 65-70, basically should be a bit better than what I got out of my Kia Soul. To get 150 you’d have to either drive at 80 everywhere or have the heater blower on full blast the whole way (mine just needed at start, once at 20 deg in a couple of minutes, back off to lowest fan speed, cabin stayed warm at that. Bung heated seat or steering wheel on if needed).
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I’d travel nationwide for the right deal, I’ve been everywhere for some of my motorcycle purchases over the years, North East Scotland to:
Cupar in Fife, Basingstoke, Hull, Reading, Liverpool & Glasgow.
Used to fly/train/bus to dealer and ride back.
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Brother -in-law’s wife has had one (22 plate) from new for a few years now, they swapped out of a Citroen E-C4 because of the Citroens crap range (liked it otherwise). She loves the Jaaag & does a fair amount of miles every year. No faults so far. Her only complaint is the dire range for the size of the battery, around 200 miles is the norm from 85Kw!
Brother-in-law says the only problem is she becomes Stirling Moss behind the wheel compared to her other cars, zoom zomm everywhere.
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I’ve thought about it, then came to the conclusion life was too short to worry about such things. Bit different to me mind, I was thinking more if my younger wife left me, now that I am a grumpy old git…lol.
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Never been an issue on any car I’ve had, EV or otherwise. Temps here in Northeast Scotland frequently pretty low, lowest this year -9 so far, unlocked no problem.
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Mine was refused by Ohme , they sent out an inspection guy, not the local installer, reason given was the site for the charger was too far from the fusebox and it was a listed building.
Funny thing was – we had already run two 6mm cables and had a fully working 7kw dumb charger on the wall, we just wanted a straight swap (which I know they have done for other motability customers, so it’s not because there was one there already). House already upgraded to a 100a supply etc, it was the simplest of jobs. As for being listed, the local planners don’t care, as long as it’s not on the front of the building & no cables are run around the outside of the building. Been there, got consent in 2021, so swapping a small box for another small box…
I was looking forward to switching to Intelligent Octopus or one of the other offered smart cheap rates. Seems whenever Motability offer a charger, I just have to do it myself (the old BP offer, they never got back to me after I sent all the pics etc, so I organised the current dumb charger install in 2021) .
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My Kia Soul, 64KW, heatpump, averaged 230-260 in summer and 185-225 in winter on a full charge depending on distance, temps, wind, rain. Did more than 15,000 miles a year, never dawdled on the dual carriageway/motorway, overall average was 3.2m/kw.
Current Ioniq 5 AWD with heatpump, has 80kw useable, at 80% it showed 200 miles in the cold snap, currently on 79% and reckons 207, its 9 deg outside. No idea yet on its true range until we do a few long trips, but based on how accurate the Kia was I’d trust it to be pretty much what it says it is if I drive the same as I always do. Short range trips eat KW’s, last 2 mile trip averaged 1.8m/kw.
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No, the current full advanced weekly allowance for both PIP and ADP is £75.75, so the £420 is still unaccounted for. Also weird that the Motability listing says weekly allowance £75.75 – unless of course it stays at that while “Full Allowance” goes up each year and that does not – but I’m very sceptical of that outcome, more prone to believe Scottish Social Security staff have screwed up their ADP figures.
Wife transfers from PIP to ADP (Adult Disability Payment) in the next few months, well, that’s what several letters have been saying for the past year or so…lol.
SNP, making life
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ID.4 Match Pro (inc. 4×4) is in the same AP range, bit marmite on the interior & their continued use of silly capacitive buttons etc, personally I preferred the Enyaq over it on my test drives (but ended up choosing an Ioniq 5).
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Looks pretty comprehensive, gives all of the useful metrics and will be accurate as the car makers don’t always seem to make sense – some include charging losses, some don’t*. Losses are not just in the conversion from 240v to the pack voltage but also in heating or cooling the battery pack to optimise charge at rapids, the charger will say, for example, 55kw delivered, the car will report 50 added. Of course, you pay for 55, so the losses are just another part of the running cost.
*My Kia Soul, for example, states a 45,000 lifetime average of 3.3m/kw in the trip meter, never reset by me since new, but if you go into the Kia App its all over the place, stating a 4.5 or something rate, which I know is incorrect.
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Don’t think so, the Kia’s had the same issue but they sent out an update early 2022 that changed when and crucially how often the car charged the 12v and that seemed to fix it. I know I’ve left my Soul unlocked for over 24 hours a few times over the years (left it unlocked today, 8am to 5pm…oops, just noticed when I looked out the window and saw my wing mirrors sticking out), something that used to be a killer of the 12v overnight and it’s been fine. Never had an issue with mine in over 45000 miles and 3.5 years.
The software is pretty much identical to the hyundai, the interface etc in the system is the same as is the remote app (just rebranded).
There were issues with the Ioniq 5 ICCU which manifest as several issues with charging and problems with the 12v battery, but they totally upgraded and revised the ICCU as a fix and all of the new models have the updated part, so that should also be sorted.
The only other issue with the 12v battery I could find is excessive calls over Bluelink for status information which repeatedly wake the car up, they solved this by restricting and/or removing third party calls on Bluelink – which is why the car was, then was not available on Octopus Intelligent Go. Octopus repeatedly requested info from the car and caused excessive 12v drain.
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Joss, Getting an Ioniq 5 Ultimate AWD in a few weeks, 84lw battery, 80lw useable & heatpump as standard to replace my Kia Soul, 67.5 battery, 64kw usable & heatpump as standard…
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Range and efficiency varies by car maker, some are much more efficient than others. Stellantis still doesn’t seem to be particularly good, Renault has great range from the Scenic, but if you look at the range test figures it’s not as economical nor as close to its claimed range as the Koreans or, of course, Tesla (not on the scheme, so a moot point perhaps).
The battery in the i4 35 is not massive at 67kw useable vs the Fords 88kw useable (98.7kw total). It’s like driving a 70ltr fuel tank petrol vs a 50. Power tends to be limited by both the size and type of electric motor along with the maximum Kw draw set by the manufacturer, so at 50% battery, they both may allow 75% max power, 30% might be 45% power and downwards to the dreaded yellow tortoise and sod all power. The Ford of course, reaches that 50% much later so its power is more available more of the time.
The various full to empty range tests give interesting real vs claimed range %, this, to me, along with a decent charging curve to avoid long refill stops is what counts, once you specify a battery of 64kw or above.
Winter weather can really hit hard. I had to go from home to Aberdeen, then Dundee, then home at 10pm last Sunday, -2 most of the trip, strongish winds, some rain, car was at 76%, I got home with 2% remaining, the car stating 176 miles on setting out. I did 153 miles in total, almost all at 70+ mph. Thank you to Scotrail for cancelling the train my wife and son were counting on to get home from their night out…and yes, I am looking forward to my next car, it has 80kw useable vs my current 64kw.
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Charging to 80% with my Soul gives 185-190 miles, been the same over the past 3 years, accurate too. Thats at current -2 temps, no real change till it gets over 10deg, then it starts to rise again.
Summer now sees over 250 miles on a full charge after changing out the awful Nexen oem tyres, the Bridgedstone replacements gave me an extra 18 miles of range!
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You shouldn’t need the tyre guard, the car will come with a 12v inflator and a can of gunk (check before PIN – dealers often “forget” to bung it in the boot). If you use the can of gunk on a puncture, Kwikfit or your dealer will replace FOC.
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I bought a boot liner & the boot liner extension (covers the rear of the back seats) as a set from Aliexpress for £65 delivered. Parcel tracking says its in the UK, should be with me next week (ordered on the 29th). Hyundai are taking the mickey at charging £96 for the boot liner and £106 for the boot liner extension.
The Aliexpress items are available on Amazon UK, but at silly prices – basically they took Hyundai prices and knocked a third off. The exact same liner I bought is sold as a premium fit in the USA from BestEVMod, the Amazon reviews are, bar the usual one or two, very positive on the fit, finish and durability, both it and the OEM Hyundai versions do get some stick for the rear seatback covers falling off in high heat conditions as the velcro glue melts. Might be ok on that here in Scotland…lol.
I’ll buy the front/rear mats after I see what it comes with on collection, but we are a little more restricted there as all of the sets I could find on Aliexpress were for LHD.
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Our nearest dealership in Arbroath has switched to Omoda/Jaecoo. Still listed as a Nissan service centre.
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I am 40 months into my first EV, a Kia Soul, currently 45000 miles covered and have done regular trips from North East Scotland to Folkestone, wont go back to an ice car, this is just so cheap and easy. 7p a kW to fill up, or, currently, about £6 a week. Plugged in for my first and only top up this week, 90 to 190 miles, so 100 miles of cold winter not in town driving for £2.20, something like 300+ mpg equivalent.
No planning of my trips after the first year, once I got a good idea of the Souls range. Leave home, drive 179 miles, charge at Gretna Green, 3 hours to get there. Have a pee, coffee, maybe a sandwich and we are ready to go, no wasted time. Then on to charge 150 miles later, repeat till destination.
I collect my I5 next month, should be even easier as it has more range and 3x charging speed.
The charger situation is very much improved even from 2021, banks of chargers everywhere. Yes, they are comparable to around 35mpg in cost, but that’s offset by the ridiculously cheap at home prices where most f your charging is done.
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I thought it was an advert for perfume…
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Ordered mid May, so kind of tallies with the dates you have been given.
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Just had my dealer call, car is on its way here, should arrive UK mid December, delivery to me around Christmas.
Confirmed its an Ultimate AWD with Tech Pack in my Digital Teal/Light Grey interior choice. So, as already seen on here, lost the driver seat memory and comfort seats, memory seat not a huge deal as I’m the only driver.
Await delivery, big xmas present.
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I have a very large very old & complicated listed stone property (was two houses, one farmhouse from the 1600’s, one a bit newer, both joined together in 1830’s and extended to “Georgianise” the front to be trendy for the time). Three stories, 4 staircases, loft insulated to 30″ where it was reachable (old servant qtrs in loft space over 1/2 of the property ) otherwise, no insulation, just lathe and plaster air gapped to 36″+ of sandstone. Mix of sash and case windows (old ones are solid oak, newer ones usual crappy wood) and double glazing (at rear – fitted just before the building was listed). 9 double glazed conservation area approved skylights (replaced those crappy metal ones that leaked heat like sieves).
We have 15 radiators heating all but two of the rooms – they are heated when used by electric fan heating. The gas boiler does ok down to low negatives, after that it loses ground, so at -1 we can maintain 20 deg, at -6 we maintain about 16 deg etc. We switch it off overnight, so, after the heating being on for 2 hours this morning, at -1 outside my study was 15 deg. Now, after heating on for 4+ hours & lined thermal curtain closed over the huge Georgian single pane window, its at 18.6deg.
Not complaining, we knew it would be a pain to heat, it really needs a decent woodburner. Had a heat pump/alternative fuel guy round a few years ago, basically told us it was a waste of time, the system would need to be so big it would cost a bomb to install and to run & like others our pipework for the radiators is too small already, so it would all need ripped up. The furthest radiator from the boiler is approx. 60ft away, so there are some epic pipe runs under our main hallway flooring.
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