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They’d see a reduction in users if it went to all drivers, I can see a fair few of us voting with our feet, I’m not signing up for a black box in the car, let alone the insistence on an app on my phone, the tracking, selling “anonymised” data and scoring me like an overseer in a Dickensian workhouse “Please Sir, May I have some more”. Had enough of that sort of crap when I worked sh*t jobs for a living.
We use the scheme as its convenient, not because it is some great money saver. Make it inconvenient and the question becomes Why bother with it?
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I’m in agreement with Kezo, mandated black box/app, after 44 years of driving cars and motorcycles, no at fault accidents, No chance.
My lifetime mileage in cars is way above average as I used to do over 30,000 miles a year. I don’t need a nanny state tracking me or my actions.
If there’s one thing that would have me leave the scheme, this would be it. Quite happy to go back to owning my own car, especially now my mileage has plummeted since my retirement. A Bigster or similar would do nicely and at no extra cost to our current £30,00 scheme spend over 6 years.
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They probably err on the side of caution on shipping time. I used to order massive ship loads of steel from Japan (only place at the time to regularly ship cold rolled extra deep drawing steel) , we’d telex (gawd, I’m old) the ship once a week for an update, they’d send back lat & long, we’d look it up and track progress, I always remember a telex after a big storm in the Pacific, the ship was 450 miles behind where it had been the previous week, the storm forced it backwards halfway across the Pacific.
We couldn’t call the steel works, they shipped free on board, so once on the ship it was our product. If you did need to call, it was fun, a secretary answers phone in Japanese, I’d then say “Hello, I’d like to speak to Mr Kakagawa please” and they would instantly hang up without saying a word in any language.
Our production team (fire extinguishers ) were not happy to be told the ship was running 2 weeks late.
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My Ioniq 5 is also a weird timeframe, collected car on 28 Dec ’24, my Bluelink Pro states an expiry date of 6 October 2025. Just over 9 months.
Sod paying £99 a year to Hyundai for Pro – it only offers Amazon Music (crap without a full subscription to Amazon) and not much else of any interest, unlimited data I already have on my phone, likewise Spotify etc.
Plus is good to have, I use the remote services quite a bit, plus it reminds me my car is unlocked or allows me to reset my AC charging limits (as I did this morning while eating my breakfast). Still annoyed it costs £30 a year. It’s crap that Hyundai charges for an app to allow the likes of OTA upgrades when you buy a £55k car. No wonder so many people just use their phone for Carplay/Android Auto.
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It can be done and be cheaper than running an equivalent sized petrol car, my son has been EV only since 2023, he lives in a flat in Dundee & charges at Tesla, initially with a subscription & an MG ZS, bringing the off-peak cost to charge to 39p per kw. He then bought a Model 3 Long Range, so gets a cheaper rate on Tesla without the £10 a month subscription fee. He loves his EV’s and wont go back to petrol.
Equally, my father-in-law has a BYD Atto 3, also in a flat in Dundee with no chance of a home charger. He’s had it 2 years, does a fair mileage as he volunteers to take the elderly & infirm to their appointments. He loves the car, but will go back to a self charging hybrid when his Motability lease ends as he doesnt like charging it.
It depends on your use case, if you are city driving with the odd longer trip it should be no real bother, 30-40 minutes at a charger once a week would usually be enough.
I spent the first 4500 miles with my first EV, a Kia Soul, charging away from home, doing a lot of miles, so charged 2-3 times a week. It was free back then (yup, free electricity….) so it was just a case of browse the web or read a book or go for a walk. I didn’t find it a chore nor too much hassle, having said that, charging at home is a lot easier even though my Ioniq 5 will fill 10 to 80% in 18 minutes on a decent charger.
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Had an ST-Line Kuga hybrid as a rental (and a Corolla Cross the day before) in NZ last week, much more responsive than the Corolla Cross, better engine, better handling, interior was ok, not “plush” by any means. Seat was weird, very hard, felt sort of humped in the middle, not uncomfortable or sore, just very firm – both wife and I remarked on it. Seats were larger than the Corolla’s – both width and depth.
Fuel consumption wasn’t as good as the Corolla, we used 7 litres to cover 80 miles, although the 47 miles of motorway were all 60mph limit.
Also had a Corolla Cross in Stavanger, Norway a few weeks prior, did 200-odd miles, needed 9.7 litres to fill, although Norway speed limits were 50mph (and often less). Noticed it did use electric only way more often than the Kuga, also CVT intrusive and felt like about half the power!
Engine wise the Kuga would be my choice, quiet, powerful.
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Shouldn’t affect any Motability customers, it’s only cars up to 2019 affected.
But yes, a hopeless mess. Takata airbags have been the subject of recall/replacement in their millions worldwide across many manufacturers. Most have completed the replacements already and Takata opened a new factory to churn out extra units as fast as they can.
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Dynamic suspension is only available on the vRS model, not on the scheme, do the Skoda configurator, it gives you all the options etc for each trim level
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Maybe they have finally caught up with the issue and have more ICCUs available, fingers crossed this is the case, it’s a hassle to have it break, but if fixed quickly it’s an inconvenience. This becomes a huge annoyance to be stuck waiting months for parts – that’s the sort of thing that puts buyers off ever getting the brand again.
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That’s why we went with the Tech Pack on our Ultimate AWD order, to get the automatic door handles and memory seats, then, on delivery of the new version, they included the automatic door handles in the standard Ultimate spec, but removed the comfort seats/memory and put them in another pack…grrrr. The N-Line S is currently the best choice on the scheme regarding kit vs price. Had to have the auto doors handles as my blind wife couldnt find them otherwise.
Then again, the AWD is no longer on the scheme, it’s great in the snow (I live in NE Scotland) and a hoot if you need to “make progress” as my advanced motorcycle instructor used to say.
Fingers crossed on the ICCU issue, might get it, might not…The common rattly boot issue has a TSB from Hyundai to fix, I couldn’t be bothered with the 60 mile round trip dealer hassle so fixed it myself with some velcro on the boot side plastic blocks and a bit of duct tape on the latch hoop (thanks to an American on the Ioniq 5 forum for that one) totally cured it.
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Yeah, I think NCAP lost the plot when they decided that all of the nanny systems were needed to get full marks (or , indeed, any marks). I’d be happier if they scored their 5 stars for crash protection and then added an A,B ,C or similar score for “other aids” like auto braking, rear seat detection, seatbelt bongs, driver attention, speed detection etc. at least then we can look for something you will survive in vs something you’d also survive in, but be bonged at because the airbags have deployed…lol.
Its annoying when your car reads the 5mph supermarket parking speed sign and bongs incessantly at you for doing
doughnuts*6mph in the car park.* Of course, these days, doing doughnuts in the car is more about keeping the jam off my t-shirt….
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I went over every year of my first 3 year lease and for the first two years on my second. First lease, a Grand Picasso, went back at 72k miles, I was expecting a bill, but nothing ever came. The handover was delayed 3 months, so they could have added a bit of mileage for that and that may have saved me a few £’s.
Next lease was an S-Max, was also over for the first 2 years, but then Covid had me working from home, so mileage for year 3 plummeted & it went back just under 50k miles.
Never contacted during either lease, and they must have known on the Picasso as I had 10 tyres (2 to punctures) and a lot of services as they were 10,000 mile intervals. Only 4 tyres for the S-Max & two services.
This was 2015-21 though, so they may have changed their policy since then…
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No bubbles burst…I’ve covered 2500 miles in my EV since December, my total fuel bill so far is £77, that includes a 560 mile road trip which used Tesla superchargers without the discounted rate we are discussing.
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The subscription does not open up Tesla only sites to other EV’s & it has a minimum 1 month contract length. If you buy an annual subscription you pay less, £90, rather than the standard £8.99 a month, saving 16%.
Reports vary, but around 50 sites are open to all EV’s in the UK.
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From the sounds of your requirements an MPV would have suited you best, high seating, low boot sill, they are mostly van derived now and the scheme is not exactly flush with choices as manufacturers have switched to SUV’s. There’s the Stellantis Peugeot Rifter, the Berlingo, Vauxhall Combo and Toyota – all much the same car seating & boot wise (sadly, mostly electric only). Then the VW Caddy/Ford Tourneo Connect – same car but different…I think the VW Touran is still available, the last of the very flexible MPV’s that every manufacturer flooded the market with not long ago.
Lifting into an SUV has not been an issue for us as long as there is no lip to the sill. Lowering into and lifting out of a boot is not something you’ll be wanting to do. As Glos Guy said, there’s so many choices and sizes, it will really depend on your own comfort choices with regards to seating/controls.
The raised estates are largely gone in favour of SUV’s. The Focus Active is 30mm higher than standard, I think it’s the only raised estate on the scheme & not long now till the Focus is discontinued entirely by Ford.
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You may get a rattling tailgate, it’s a known issue and Hyundai have a tech bulletin to fix it, but I sorted mine in 30 secs, a small bit of duct tape wrapped round the boot latch hoop and a wee bit on the plastic latches either side of the boot – problem solved. Tech bulletin describes putting washers under the plastic latches, then loosening the hoop and whacking it with a hammer…lol. I’ve had rattly tailgates before (1980’s sheesh, getting old!) and the duct tape fix was familiar to me.
No other issues, range is great, car is comfy and N-Line S has all the toys.
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MG ZS will be back, new model just released, although the electric version will no longer be called the ZS, it now MGS5 EV….bigger too. Its getting good reviews.
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Never had a problem in the nearly 4 years I’ve been charging, but then, I am on Octopus Go & have a Viridian SimplEV charger (was a pre-production unit I got for £300, now sold on their site – but not for the UK), so I just use the car’s inbuilt schedule to charge from 0:30 to 5:30am. I can plug in at any time, it only charges on the schedule.
Phaedra and others affected by the new lack of access to the API on their VW group cars can do the same, so you could plug in and just forget about it, let the car take the strain instead of the Octopus/charger app.
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A teeny tiny insignificant impact. Virtually no components and parts for eurozone cars are made in the USA, the logistics would be stupid. Even Ford manufactures in Spain/Germany etc, with parts coming from a huge range of mostly EU or near neighbours.
I doubt any car on the scheme would be affected. Even the Mach-E is built in Mexico. This is why Jim Farley, Ford’s CEO spoke out so strongly against tariffs, their own domestic production is entwined with Canada and Mexico, so it just pushes the cost of US production (and car prices) up.
The tariff effect is most felt the other way, i.e. selling to the USA market. Crazily, almost all Americans don’t understand how tariffs work and think the country the tariff is imposed on will pay it, when in fact, it’s the US importer, who then passes that extra cost on to the American consumer. This is not helped by Trump’s rhetoric “China/Canada/EU will pay, we will slap a 25% tariff on them”.
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Yup, its closed, was thru the Energy Savings Trust website, you can register your interest in case it opens again (i.e. receives more funding from ScotGov).
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And we know an upstanding Daily Fail citizen is sure to read the Guardian as well & learn of the clickbait tactics all too prevalent in today’s press.
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Ahh, Arnold Shark, no wonder they denied everything and were so dismissive…
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The steering wheel damage is caused by a zip, got similar on my Soul when I first got out (zip on my jacket left hand pocket was open) Never done this with any other cars, it’s the weird plastic the steering wheel is coated in, it’s very fragile.
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On the one hand the Gov. say too many people are claiming benefits and need to get back to work, on the other they tout possible means testing…the two don’t exactly go hand in hand. It Pays to be poor is the phrase that springs to mind.
All conjecture at this point, but the govt “people handling” playbook is offer a catastrophe, then water it down to a calamity, which we take thinking we were lucky…followed by misdirection..oh, look, a squirrel…
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