Will Trump’s proposed 25% car tariffs reduce choice of Motability car?

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  • #300083
    Avatar photoWillis
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      Now Trump has announced that all cars imported into the USA will be liable to a 25% tariff and Europe likely to respond with counter measures, will we see the choice of cars available to Motability customers dropping rapidly?

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    • #300085
      Avatar photoVaun
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        I don’t think so. Tariffs will be paid by importers of foreign cars into the USA.

        EU countries in the single market will put tariffs on goods coming from USA

        for myself I don’t see how it will affect cars in the uk.

         

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        #300088
        Brydo
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          Possibly increase the choice?

          If China are blocked from selling in the USA they will need to sell them somewhere.

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          #300090
          Glos Guy
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            The only way it could affect the scheme would be if the UK imposed a counter tariff but, even then, it would only affect cars built in the US. Are there any cars on the scheme built in the US?

            #300103
            DumfriesDik
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              Are there any cars on the scheme built in the US?

              Good question. Ford? Maybe??

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              #300113
              Fastbike1000
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                As I understand it, its 25% on car parts as well as new cars.

                #300117
                kezo
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                  German premium brands rely heaviliy on sales within the US market, as such they could choose to increase price’s in other markets, to offset losses from US tariffs.

                  Overall its unlikely to impact the scheme, other than some possible tail end AP increases based on above. @Brydo touched on a good point, with the US blocking China coupled with Rach from accounts adding luxury car tax to EV’s, China could see this as an opportunity to push more cars cars into the UK, at below the luxury threshold, which could offset any attempted price increase by EUrope manufacturers, who might choose to increase prices on their entry level cars to try and offset losses from tariffs applied by the US.

                  I don’t think any cars on the Scheme are actually US built, even Fords bigger pickups such as the Ranger is built and shipped from south Africa.

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                  joss
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                    #300123
                    Avatar photoWillis
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                      I think I have to disagree with all of you. I see it having a massive impact, with the EU and also eventually the UK (once they realise that Trump will never give them free trade) imposing retaliatory tariffs on the US. The US tariffs are on parts as well as cars, as Kezo has already said, so it will cause spikes in prices for most European and US cars. China must be rubbing their hands together and ramping up production of EVs ready to replace all those Teslas!

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                      Batfastard
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                        Tesla?

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                        #300128
                        kezo
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                          Tesla?

                          On BBC this morning, our Rach from accounts is thinking of giving £5bn (ring a bell!) to Musk and other US tech barons!

                          #300135
                          solent60
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                            I am by no means an economist of any sort… but surely if European car makers export less and less cars to the US because American buyers now find them too expensive with import tariffs – the European manufacturers will be flooding Europe (and the UK) with their cars to fill the void? And surely that will mean too many cars to sell to European buyers = price wars/lower prices?

                            Hey, what do I know!

                            #300139
                            kezo
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                              I am by no means an economist of any sort…

                              Neither is Rach from accounts and neither am I 😂

                              Germany for instance, as the ones with most to loose, is most likely to sell in the US and use other markets to soften the tariff blow by increasng prices. A trade war amongs’t european manufacturers won’t end well and any trade war with China above what already exists, will without a doubt see tariff retalliate harder, which could impact supplies such as battery cells european manufacturers use in their EV’s for example.

                              EU Commissioner for Trade and Economic Security is today and tomorrow in China to foster a more balanced and cooperative trade relationship between the EU and China, with a focus on reciprocity, transparency, and mutual benefit on an understanding european manufacturers have a huge pressance in China especially the likes of VW.

                              There is unlikely to a seismic shift towards China but, closening ties are guaranteed.

                               

                              #300242
                              Avatar photoAbercol
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                                A teeny tiny insignificant impact. Virtually no components and parts for eurozone cars are made in the USA, the logistics would be stupid. Even Ford manufactures in Spain/Germany etc, with parts coming from a huge range of mostly EU or near neighbours.

                                I doubt any car on the scheme would be affected. Even the Mach-E is built in Mexico. This is why Jim Farley, Ford’s CEO spoke out so strongly against tariffs, their own domestic production is entwined with Canada and Mexico, so it just pushes the cost of US production (and car prices) up.

                                The tariff effect is most felt the other way, i.e. selling to the USA market. Crazily, almost all Americans don’t understand how tariffs work and think the country the tariff is imposed on will pay it, when in fact, it’s the US importer, who then passes that extra cost on to the American consumer. This is not helped by Trump’s rhetoric “China/Canada/EU will pay, we will slap a 25% tariff on them”.

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                                #300253
                                Glos Guy
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                                  I think I have to disagree with all of you. I see it having a massive impact, with the EU and also eventually the UK (once they realise that Trump will never give them free trade) imposing retaliatory tariffs on the US. The US tariffs are on parts as well as cars, as Kezo has already said, so it will cause spikes in prices for most European and US cars. China must be rubbing their hands together and ramping up production of EVs ready to replace all those Teslas!

                                  But your original question was will it result in a rapid drop in choice of cars on the Motability scheme? On the basis that, as far as any of us are aware, there are no cars on the scheme that are made in the US, or are reliant on US made parts, the answer has to be ‘no’.

                                  Teslas may become more expensive if we adopt counter tariffs, but they aren’t on the Motability scheme so, again, no impact.

                                  I think that @Brydo and @kezo make good points about the Chinese seeing Europe (and particularly the UK, if we continue as an outlier in pursuing net zero) as opportunity markets, even more so than they already do.

                                  #300257
                                  Glos Guy
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                                    Crazily, almost all Americans don’t understand how tariffs work and think the country the tariff is imposed on will pay it, when in fact, it’s the US importer, who then passes that extra cost on to the American consumer. This is not helped by Trump’s rhetoric “China/Canada/EU will pay, we will slap a 25% tariff on them”.

                                    So true. It is this worrying level of ignorance that allows Trump to continually spout complete lies, over and over again. The problem is further compounded by a sycophantic US media that doesn’t challenge their Presidents in the way that our media would challenge a British PM who talked nonsense. How many times have we heard Trump say that 60% of the cost of the Ukraine war was paid by the US and all money from European countries was loans? Neither is remotely true, yet he is never challenged on it, so the US public believe it. It is no wonder that he is aligning the US with Russia as he is adopting a similar approach to Putin i.e. never let the facts get in the way of a good argument!

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                                    fings44
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