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In reply to: Left the scheme and replacement car
Also I know you were considering a private car, say you went for the same enyaq, lets assume an approved used 2025 one and lets say its vat qualifying and you’re entitled to the adaptations discount.
Lets say the car is £29K, so it’d roughly work out to £23.2K after the vat comes off. Say you did PCP and you got approved enyaq rates so they put £750 towards it and you have a balloon payment of £11669 and a £1500 deposit. Over a 48 month agreement thats around £266 a month, thats not including breakdown, insurance or anythjng like that but you’d still get most warranty.
Now adaptations, from Jeff Gosling priceless, for a 100kg hoist alone (the Apex assist) that would be £1595, for mechanical hand controls its £850 – £1995, transfer plates are £595 each. Steering balls are £65. I know it’ll vary in installation costs. So, you’d likely need to borrow an additional £6k – £8K.
Another thing to factor is in this case you get less protection if your needs change. Plus if you reward ends then you’ll be in trouble unless you work too.
In reply to: Removing Private Plates
Thanks for the reply. No i didnt get plates with it as the dealership put my private plate on it for me collecting as it was on retention. I would need to pay to get plates made up and fitted. I know i can remove my plate on my motability account but wanted to know if i can return it as is and let them change the plates to whatever they were originally because it is being returned within 3 days of DVLA being notified.
Motability will not allow that.
The DVLA will assign a new registration number, but you will need to pay to have a set made up and put on the vehicle before you return it.
Your better off having standard plates assigned by dealer for your new car and then arranging to have your private plates assigned through your online account. It save alot of hassle!
In reply to: Removing Private Plates
Do the plate transfer online, hand the car back with your own private number plates on it. Tell whoever you give the car back to here is the new number for this car. You will then have to ask the dealer to make you a new set of plates with your personal number to go on to your new car. It costs a dealer around £7.00 to make a set of plates. Ask them nicely and they should do it for you.
In reply to: Removing Private Plates
Thanks for the reply. No i didnt get plates with it as the dealership put my private plate on it for me collecting as it was on retention. I would need to pay to get plates made up and fitted. I know i can remove my plate on my motability account but wanted to know if i can return it as is and let them change the plates to whatever they were originally because it is being returned within 3 days of DVLA being notified.
Topic: Removing Private Plates
Hoping for some advice. I am due to hand my current car back on Saturday and currently have my private plate on it. Is it ok to remove the plates from the vehicle through DVLA and put it on retention then hand the car back to motability for them to update the plates? I believe you get 3 days to arrange the correct age related plates bit i am handing the car back within those 3 days and dont want the cost of replacing and fitting new plates. Thanks
In reply to: Private number plate
I use a different approach, which does not rely upon dealerships and I find to be extremely easy. Basically, I follow these steps; 1) I take delivery of the car with the normal dealer assigned plates. 2) After a period of time (usually when the date prefix is no longer the ‘current’ new reg
) I do the online application to assign the private plate (no cost as the plate is on retention – see step 4). 3) I drive to Halfords and when parked in their car park I unscrew the plates and hand them to the technician, so that when they make up the new private plates they can drill the holes in the same positions. I screw the new plates on the car and drive home, storing the original plates in my garage. 4) Just before the car is due to go back, I do the online retention (£85 cost) and the registration number that the car had when I took delivery is always reassigned. As I already have those plates with the correct pre-drilled holes, I just swap them with the private plates at home. Takes 5 minutes. Total cost of the above is the £85 retention and the cost of the plates, and each process can be done simply at a time to suit me.Glos Guy, I’m looking to use this method come April (hopefully). One Q, do you find all the various databases that MoB, RAC, KF etc use update swiftly or have you had to quote the original plate to get the vehicle recognised at all?
In reply to: CAT N EVs
I bought a write-off many years ago from a dealer in such cars. At the time it was Category C, which is now equivalent to Cat S (structural damage). It seemed a good price, and their repairs seemed even better value … but, it was never rebuilt properly. I was unable to sell it privately, and the dealer eventually bought it back off me – at a nice loss of course. Never again. — What I have now done is bought a car for import, from Singapore. An 8-seater 2016 Honda Odyssey, 2.4 auto, with 57,000 km recorded (36,500 miles). $5,500 USD (£4,160) including shipping to Bristol port. Then there’s port fees and customs (about £150), Import Duty at 10% (£420-ish), VAT at 20% (£920-ish), local transportation, DVLA fees, number plates, rear fog lamp, and I will get it serviced and a valet; and I have allowed a total of £7,500 for everything. I need to wait though. Loading onto the car-carrier is scheduled for 5th January, with an ETA into Bristol on 10th March. Then around 5-6 weeks for DVLA to do the registration, for number plates and MOT. https://www.beforward.jp/honda/odyssey/cb391086/id/13451422/?tp_country_id=45¤cy=USD
That’s very interesting idea.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)In reply to: CAT N EVs
I bought a write-off many years ago from a dealer in such cars. At the time it was Category C, which is now equivalent to Cat S (structural damage).
It seemed a good price, and their repairs seemed even better value … but, it was never rebuilt properly.
I was unable to sell it privately, and the dealer eventually bought it back off me – at a nice loss of course. Never again.
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What I have now done is bought a car for import, from Singapore.
An 8-seater 2016 Honda Odyssey, 2.4 auto, with 57,000 km recorded (36,500 miles).
$5,500 USD (£4,160) including shipping to Bristol port.Then there’s port fees and customs (about £150), Import Duty at 10% (£420-ish), VAT at 20% (£920-ish), local transportation, DVLA fees, number plates, rear fog lamp, and I will get it serviced and a valet; and I have allowed a total of £7,500 for everything.
I need to wait though. Loading onto the car-carrier is scheduled for 5th January, with an ETA into Bristol on 10th March. Then around 5-6 weeks for DVLA to do the registration, for number plates and MOT.
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In reply to: Private number plate
I use a different approach, which does not rely upon dealerships and I find to be extremely easy. Basically, I follow these steps; 1) I take delivery of the car with the normal dealer assigned plates. 2) After a period of time (usually when the date prefix is no longer the ‘current’ new reg 😂) I do the online application to assign the private plate (no cost as the plate is on retention – see step 4). 3) I drive to Halfords and when parked in their car park I unscrew the plates and hand them to the technician, so that when they make up the new private plates they can drill the holes in the same positions. I screw the new plates on the car and drive home, storing the original plates in my garage. 4) Just before the car is due to go back, I do the online retention (£85 cost) and the registration number that the car had when I took delivery is always reassigned. As I already have those plates with the correct pre-drilled holes, I just swap them with the private plates at home. Takes 5 minutes. Total cost of the above is the £85 retention and the cost of the plates, and each process can be done simply at a time to suit me.
This is definitely the best way to do it, just need someone able to swap the physical number plates around
In reply to: Private number plate
They also have to display the kitemark
Even my Motability cars plates don’t have the Kitemark, rather a BS number.
Yes indeed that is what I meant, BS thingy I called it the kitemark cos i couldnt remember an that is what it used to be called.
To make and sell number plates you must be registered with the dvla as an authorised supplier, they have a code name for that as well. Halfords is authorised, the ebay guy is not or he would supply his dvla authorisation number or code. It used to be that they had to be made in the uk, but they slacked off on that stipulation.
As i said if its your own car, fill your boots an go for it. But its a motability car probably better stay within the law.
In reply to: Private number plate
I use a different approach, which does not rely upon dealerships and I find to be extremely easy. Basically, I follow these steps;
1) I take delivery of the car with the normal dealer assigned plates.
2) After a period of time (usually when the date prefix is no longer the ‘current’ new reg 😂) I do the online application to assign the private plate (no cost as the plate is on retention – see step 4).
3) I drive to Halfords and when parked in their car park I unscrew the plates and hand them to the technician, so that when they make up the new private plates they can drill the holes in the same positions. I screw the new plates on the car and drive home, storing the original plates in my garage.
4) Just before the car is due to go back, I do the online retention (£85 cost) and the registration number that the car had when I took delivery is always reassigned. As I already have those plates with the correct pre-drilled holes, I just swap them with the private plates at home. Takes 5 minutes.
Total cost of the above is the £85 retention and the cost of the plates, and each process can be done simply at a time to suit me.
In reply to: Private number plate
Mobility have the V5C logbook so I can’t get the reference number to fill the link in you sent me
do you have an online motability account? You can get the reference number from that.
A lot of dealers can no longer register any cars with a private plate some can but a lot can’t.
I don’t think they are sending the number plate form out anymore. I got a new reg for a N.Ireland number recently and no form came with it.
you can buy a new set of number plates on eBay for £15.00 including delivery.
In reply to: Motability question? We can answer it.
I’ve got a private number plate that I want to put onto my next vehicle that I ordered yesterday.I was told by the dealer that the new vehicle has to have the original number on it and I have to retain my private plate and change it myself.Now when I had the vehicle I’ve got now it never came with a registration number on it.How do I find out what number I have to put on and how do I do this.Also when do I start doing all this as my dealer is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
As an alternative, I let the dealership assign a normal registration number and I get the private plate assigned at a later date (usually once the reg is no longer the ‘current’ one
). I have adopted this approach with both private and Motability cars and it’s worked really well for me When I want to get the private plate assigned I drive to Halfords (with the required documentation) and when parked in their car park I unscrew the original plates and hand them to the technician so that they can drill the holes in the same places on the private plates.. I then pop the new plates on before I leave. The advantage of this approach is that whilst it’s more work up front, it makes it very easy when I’m about to sell the car (if private) or hand it back (Motability). I simply put the private reg on retention and the DVLA automatically re-assign the original reg number, which I already have the original plates for, so it’s a 5 minute job to swap the plates over. Job done. Repeat process with next car!Good call too. Although in my case I simply tell the new dealer to apply my personal number plate and they do the rest. I know there’s an option on Motability website to remove personal number plate, but never used it.
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I’ve got a private number plate that I want to put onto my next vehicle that I ordered yesterday.I was told by the dealer that the new vehicle has to have the original number on it and I have to retain my private plate and change it myself.Now when I had the vehicle I’ve got now it never came with a registration number on it.How do I find out what number I have to put on and how do I do this.Also when do I start doing all this as my dealer is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
As an alternative, I let the dealership assign a normal registration number and I get the private plate assigned at a later date (usually once the reg is no longer the ‘current’ one 😂). I have adopted this approach with both private and Motability cars and it’s worked really well for me
When I want to get the private plate assigned I drive to Halfords (with the required documentation) and when parked in their car park I unscrew the original plates and hand them to the technician so that they can drill the holes in the same places on the private plates.. I then pop the new plates on before I leave.
The advantage of this approach is that whilst it’s more work up front, it makes it very easy when I’m about to sell the car (if private) or hand it back (Motability). I simply put the private reg on retention and the DVLA automatically re-assign the original reg number, which I already have the original plates for, so it’s a 5 minute job to swap the plates over. Job done. Repeat process with next car!
In reply to: Here we go again.
To be honest I surprised why Motability vehicle are not all fitted with trackers and or Motability on the no plates, there has to be a way of stopping all this abuse, as previously with all this publicity genuine disabled people will suffer.
Both suggestions would be highly problematic.
The cost of putting trackers on all vehicles would be phenomenal (easily over £100m) and that cost would have to be paid for by scheme members through higher APs. On top of that, Motability would need to employ hundreds more staff to monitor them (again, extra cost, passed on to scheme members) and what would they be looking for? Short of movements that clearly indicate a taxi, they would have no way of knowing what the car was being used for, who was in the car and whether or not the disabled person would benefit.
As for marking the car in some way to designate it as a Motability car, that would be the tipping point for many legitimate users to leave the scheme (my wife included). Aside from being a generally bad idea, it would create no end of problems. You only have to glance at some of the comments online from the ignorant Neanderthals who weigh in every time the scheme is mentioned to know that marked cars would become targets, as would the people in them. I’d suggest that there would be targeted vandalism (especially against the better cars like BMWs) from the green eyed mob who would love the car but not the disability that goes with it. Someone with an i4 posted the other day that they now felt uncomfortable enough as it was parking in a blue badge bay (incidentally, you can always tell if an i4 is a Motability car as it will be the 35 model – 90% of private buyers get the 40 and 50 models 😉). Also, Motability would be inundated with disgruntled workmates ‘reporting’ able bodied colleagues who turn up at work every day in a Motability car. These people would have no idea that if the benefit recipient can’t work and their partner is the breadwinner, then the partner using the car for commuting every day is perfectly within the scheme rules.
For the above reasons, and others, neither idea makes much sense. I’d argue that if Motability removed cars from 5,300 people last year due to abuse, then they are already doing a great job in that regard. By far the bigger problem is people getting the qualifying entitlement who shouldn’t, and last weeks announcement is the first step in addressing that, although I’m surprised that they didn’t tighten up the mobility criteria of PIP as well as daily living. The ‘ability to follow the route of a familiar journey without assistance’ question remains an obvious area that many will exploit and is difficult to disprove, but that’s a government issue and nothing to do with Motability.
In reply to: I ordered a car that was not as I was expecting
Every car ive had on motorbility since 2001, i test drive before order and really test drive on collection day,which to me is far more important due to that being the car i will have for 3years.Surpsies me that people test drive then order ,then look round it on collection day but dontt re test drive it.
I’m staggered that any dealership allows this. As @Injector says, in order for you to be able to drive the car it has to be registered. From that point, and certainly once you drive it, it becomes a pre-registered used car which the dealership could make a loss on. The only exception would be if they allow you to run it on trade plates but, in that scenario, they would only let you drive it for a few miles, which would tell you nothing. Whenever we have picked up a new car (private and Motability), we look over the car in detail before accepting it. Once we have said that we are happy with it, the sales person contacts their department that registers cars and it is immediately registered. If, for some reason, we rejected the car, they wouldn’t do this and they would sell it to someone else as a new car. Are you saying that you ‘test drive’ the car before you input your PIN?
In reply to: Speeding ticket
lol my brother had his girlfriend at the time to rush him back as he left it to last minute.
Always be my Paratrooper hero brother.
when Motability changed the rules on private number plates I bought one with his initials Michael Justin Bengough
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In reply to: Putting private plate on retention. How do I do it ?
I did this a few weeks ago. Dead easy. Do it from the Motability website and it gives you the relevant log book number and then links you through to the DVLA website. Took about 10 minutes in total.
I always take delivery of a new car with normal plates, which I retain when I put a private plate on, and then when I take the private plate off towards the end of the lease it’s a 10 minute job to put the original plates back on.
The only slight irritant was that because the Motability car is in my wife’s name, the retention certificate now shows her as the owner of my personalised plate, although she can obviously assign it to a car in my name in future. The retention is valid for 10 years but I didn’t realise that it’s free to extend for another 10 years each time that period ends. This was good news for me as I have two private plates and the second one has been on retention for 9 years and I didn’t want to pay another retention fee, but I don’t have to.
In reply to: Personal Plates…
So I should just be free to stick on the new plates now, and the updates will all complete themselves in the background?
As long as you have received a notification from DVLA confirming that you can now assign the private plate to the car then yes. That means the legal bit is done. The rest is admin.
Topic: Private number plate
In reply to: Dealership not registering private plate
Just let them register your car so you get plates added, then transfer to your private plate through your Motability account online, its that simple. If you do it this way then you will have plates to put back on when you place it back onto retention if you decide to put it one another vehicle or leave the scheme. I do it like this every year and it takes 10 min plus 10 min to swap the plates over on the drive.
Definitely best plan and its so very easy to do. I guess the small challenge for some will be the act of actually changing the plates on the car, but its a 5 min job if the dealership were to do it (or local garage)
In reply to: Dealership not registering private plate
Just let them register your car so you get plates added, then transfer to your private plate through your Motability account online, its that simple. If you do it this way then you will have plates to put back on when you place it back onto retention if you decide to put it one another vehicle or leave the scheme. I do it like this every year and it takes 10 min plus 10 min to swap the plates over on the drive.
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I’ve extended my lease for 2 years on the old girl. All simple done through the online account. Even the insurance documents were updated within minutes. I nearly went to order a C5 Aircross 1.5BlueHDi EAT8 Max but my mam is poorly at the moment been sent home from hospital where she shouldn’t have been so my heart not really in it plus I do like this car. The 1.2 155 pulls really well and I got the power when needed plus it’s been economical. I’ve only put 12,500 miles on it. Plates are different since early photos as I have a private plate in my late brothers memory on it since last October.
hope your mum improves a bit mate. nice comfy cars the citreon
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Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistIn reply to: My 2021 Citroën C4 1.2 155 EAT8 Shine Plus
I’ve extended my lease for 2 years on the old girl. All simple done through the online account. Even the insurance documents were updated within minutes.
I nearly went to order a C5 Aircross 1.5BlueHDi EAT8 Max but my mam is poorly at the moment been sent home from hospital where she shouldn’t have been so my heart not really in it plus I do like this car. The 1.2 155 pulls really well and I got the power when needed plus it’s been economical. I’ve only put 12,500 miles on it.
Plates are different since early photos as I have a private plate in my late brothers memory on it since last October.
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In reply to: Change in Personalised Number plates
I am just embarking on private number plates, I firstly spoke to MB and they confirmed that I just had to request the V5c and then let them know once the change was completed.
I logged in and found the V5c request and submitted it, however so far its not been received so I quickly checked the ‘Current Lease’ page and the V5c button is no longer there *see image. I am wondering whether its disappeared because I have already submitted a request, or whether its disappeared for everyone. Could someone possibly take a look please?
) I do the online application to assign the private plate (no cost as the plate is on retention – see step 4). 3) I drive to Halfords and when parked in their car park I unscrew the plates and hand them to the technician, so that when they make up the new private plates they can drill the holes in the same positions. I screw the new plates on the car and drive home, storing the original plates in my garage. 4) Just before the car is due to go back, I do the online retention (£85 cost) and the registration number that the car had when I took delivery is always reassigned. As I already have those plates with the correct pre-drilled holes, I just swap them with the private plates at home. Takes 5 minutes. Total cost of the above is the £85 retention and the cost of the plates, and each process can be done simply at a time to suit me.
). I have adopted this approach with both private and Motability cars and it’s worked really well for me When I want to get the private plate assigned I drive to Halfords (with the required documentation) and when parked in their car park I unscrew the original plates and hand them to the technician so that they can drill the holes in the same places on the private plates.. I then pop the new plates on before I leave. The advantage of this approach is that whilst it’s more work up front, it makes it very easy when I’m about to sell the car (if private) or hand it back (Motability). I simply put the private reg on retention and the DVLA automatically re-assign the original reg number, which I already have the original plates for, so it’s a 5 minute job to swap the plates over. Job done. Repeat process with next car!
