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Has anyone ever owned CAT N EV( not ICE), please?
There are many articles with pros and cos, but I wonder if someone here had or has Cat N EV as a second car in the family and is happy to share their experience.
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Apart from declaration to your insurance company and high premiums, the manufactures warranty is void, not a good idea on a EV. You may also struggle to obtain an aftermarket warranty.
In the past we have purchased several damaged repairable’s including a few month old caravan, all were trouble free
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I use to and still do to a lesser extent buy and sell used cars with my son and whether I’d buy a Cat N (D) vehicle would depend on whether there is a comprehensive history file documenting its damage and repair history.
Although a Cat N (old D) refers to non structual damage relating to the chasis or body, it still leaves things like non structual suspension, brakes, electrical, water damage, dame to the interior or body, so its bith vital and nice to know what happened and having a comprehensive history, documenting its damage and repair history gives you that vital resassurance of what actually happened for the insurance company to find it uneconomical to repair and how the repairs were carried out.
Buying from seller who’s not able (willing) to say or are unaware how the vehicle was damaged, leaves you wide open to buying a future lemon, because you will not know exactly what to look at and whether it was repaired properly!
The vehicle you are interested in should also have the service book which is upto date, V5C, 2 keys and a valid cotia MOT.
As @Oscarmax points out, if the write off has been recorded, any remaining manufacturers warranty will almost certainly have been voided and the insurance premium will be higher or you may find they won’t cover everything.
Cat N cars in many cases can be trouble free for years especially if accompanied with a comprehensive history of its damage and repair journey, without that you could be opening a can of worms. Another plauseable option if you thinking of going this route, is to buy what would be a Cat N, but oone that is unrecorded and have it repaired yourself, will still see you with a bargain Any inclin of water damage, walk away, it not worth it!
Thank you both – very helpful.
I am toying with the idea at the moment – nothing specific yet, but I do understand the history of the vehicle is a must. I didn’t know the insurance will be much higher, although I think there was no option to select if the vehicle recorded as Cat N on the main comparison website or two I have tried – something to keep in mind.
As to the warranty, those I have seen on auto-trader specifically call out there is manufacturer’s warranty, but same here – it is obvious the onus is on me to ensure it is true warranty and what exactly it covers and what does not.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)We had several brand new Leaf and Zoe’s since they started to arrive to the UK – I think our first Zoe had 65 reg. number.
I was thinking of something more interesting to drive and at the moment I am at early discovery stage with no decision made yet.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)Not what your after, rather as an example I’ve been in talks with my son to bid on it and currently have a pre auction bid of £5100, £105 more than the pre auction opening bid and expecting c.£10k on day of auction (Tuesday) and will go with max bid of around £10750 with c.£1600 ontop to put the bits right mop polis, pain where needed, interior valet and manufacturer programmed 2nd key with would remove the rogue key. The retail price on the listening is what the seller thinks and often is not the case.
The car a 2024 Kia Stonic mild hybrid stollen recovered on a catagory X which means the car is “unrecorded” of any accident or being stolen on V5c or data checks which is important as the car keeps the manufacturers warranty, with no effects on inurance or selling the vehicle. This catagory along with U is very popular for obvious reasons and as a private buyer for yourself you can outbid much of the trade and end up with a car with very minor damage (you would have to take into account to get it mint) but, with non of the implications of cat N, if you understand what I’m saying😂 Also you can get a basic account on Copart for free to watch and learn various auctions and from £60 a year membership if you want to bid. Copart have 2o sites around UK and we have never had a problem, but you do need to be careful. There is also a guy who can source an EV of choice from auctions that @Jojoe puts up up now again, but forgot and maybe a worthy lead for your next car!
Kent would normally be too far for us so we would have to be prepaired to pay Auction delivery c.£350+ VAT
It means if we win we would be buying a car unseen however, my son has had a 10 mini virtual viewing at a cost of £10+VAT and there doesn not seem to be a lot wrong with it, possible realignment of boot latch.
It would need buff and polish with touch up of paint where necessary £500
Interior valet £60
Second key coded from maufacturer and delete unkown key £300+VAT
With Auction fees I’m looking at £1600+
Thank you, @kezo.
I am more interested in the likes of Jaguar I-Pace with air suspension, so my dad can easily get in and out, when my parents are staying with us. Presently I need to help him to get in and out from low sitting Enyaq I have on Motability.
Either way, I am still at the early discovery stage to learn about Cat N market and responses from people like yourself, are extremely valuable.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)I would be very careful of buying a Jaguar i-pace as there are many articles out there saying that some insurance companies won’t touch them with a bargepole and those that will are inserting various clauses like not covering the batteries etc.
There is a YouTube video which states the cars in question.
I bought a write-off many years ago from a dealer in such cars. At the time it was Category C, which is now equivalent to Cat S (structural damage).
It seemed a good price, and their repairs seemed even better value … but, it was never rebuilt properly.
I was unable to sell it privately, and the dealer eventually bought it back off me – at a nice loss of course. Never again.
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What I have now done is bought a car for import, from Singapore.
An 8-seater 2016 Honda Odyssey, 2.4 auto, with 57,000 km recorded (36,500 miles).
$5,500 USD (£4,160) including shipping to Bristol port.Then there’s port fees and customs (about £150), Import Duty at 10% (£420-ish), VAT at 20% (£920-ish), local transportation, DVLA fees, number plates, rear fog lamp, and I will get it serviced and a valet; and I have allowed a total of £7,500 for everything.
I need to wait though. Loading onto the car-carrier is scheduled for 5th January, with an ETA into Bristol on 10th March. Then around 5-6 weeks for DVLA to do the registration, for number plates and MOT.
https://www.beforward.jp/honda/odyssey/cb391086/id/13451422/?tp_country_id=45¤cy=USD
We only brought Cat D carried out the work ourself’s, then used a local bodyshop for the paintwork.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I bought a write-off many years ago from a dealer in such cars. At the time it was Category C, which is now equivalent to Cat S (structural damage). It seemed a good price, and their repairs seemed even better value … but, it was never rebuilt properly. I was unable to sell it privately, and the dealer eventually bought it back off me – at a nice loss of course. Never again. — What I have now done is bought a car for import, from Singapore. An 8-seater 2016 Honda Odyssey, 2.4 auto, with 57,000 km recorded (36,500 miles). $5,500 USD (£4,160) including shipping to Bristol port. Then there’s port fees and customs (about £150), Import Duty at 10% (£420-ish), VAT at 20% (£920-ish), local transportation, DVLA fees, number plates, rear fog lamp, and I will get it serviced and a valet; and I have allowed a total of £7,500 for everything. I need to wait though. Loading onto the car-carrier is scheduled for 5th January, with an ETA into Bristol on 10th March. Then around 5-6 weeks for DVLA to do the registration, for number plates and MOT. https://www.beforward.jp/honda/odyssey/cb391086/id/13451422/?tp_country_id=45¤cy=USD
That’s very interesting idea.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)@kezo what are your thoughts on this one, please?
I monitor it since they wanted ridiculous £27,000 for the car
https://www.pfcarsales.co.uk/used-jaguar-i-pace-burton-on-trent-staffordshire-6970269
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Motability Mazda CX-60 PHEV July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)You need to do a carvertical / vcheck report, which will/should contain detailed information of the damage history/repair if bought from salvage auction and hopefully several of the salvage auction pics showing all the damage. Also does the car have a detailed accident repair history portfolio. As there is little info on the site other than its cat n.
Example report of accident damaged car with photo’s: https://www.carvertical.com/gb/sample-report
Bare in mind if your buying cash/no part x you will be able to command a further discount of a decent amount.
Thank you, @kezo.
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Motability Mazda CX-60 PHEV July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)261 miles from a 90kwh battery, must be a very solid / heavy car. Skoda Enyaq gets 360 from a 77kwh battery.
Enyaq EV
261 miles from a 90kwh battery, must be a very solid / heavy car. Skoda Enyaq gets 360 from a 77kwh battery.
84.7kWh useable / 400hp / Gross Vehicle Weight 2.7t / c.300 miles
261 miles from a 90kwh battery, must be a very solid / heavy car. Skoda Enyaq gets 360 from a 77kwh battery.
84.7kWh useable / 400hp / Gross Vehicle Weight 2.7t / c.300 miles https://www.jaguar.com/content/dam/jdx/pdfs/wltp-figures/Jaguar-I-PACE-TD-Insert-1X5902400000XXEN01P.pdf
The Enyaq 85 is 2.2t, I think the useable battery is 77kwh.
Enyaq EV
@kdwolf have you spoke to the dealer and their willingness to provide the reg, so you can carry out your own checks?
@kdwolf have you spoke to the dealer and their willingness to provide the reg, so you can carry out your own checks?
I am going away shortly until mid January. If the car will still be there, once I am back, I will give them a call (they never responded to my email, when the asking price was £26,000).
They advertise the car with 24K miles on the clock, when one of the pictures shows just over 18K, so my guess that someone is still driving it.
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