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Scenic e-tech Iconic is the best BEV on the scheme for money, it has it all. I’ve read the reviews and the forums and it’s good news all around.
From reading other posts on here the Enyaq is a great car TBF.
Curve ball from me. The e3008 is a cracking car. Yes mine had some bad faults and range is poor. But faults seem to have been ironed out and it is such a premium car inside and out, it’s solid. That’s why I’m keeping mine, it’s such a good place to sit. Mind there ain’t much tech, I’m not sure what ap is now but if the ap and the two packs pops got on his sensation pack, and drive assist pack bring it in or around budget then it’s a brilliant car. It will also have V2L sometime in 2025, whether my current car can have it I don’t know. Will it be an over the air update, possibly, or just built into models getting made then. I’m hoping it’s just a software thing as I want V2L.
A bit harsh over roads that have been butchered by the utility companies, but great on others. It really feels and looks like a top premium car. TBF though I would have taken the iconic at £2400 if it was that price when I ordered.
The Kodiaq is nice but, I can’t help thinking dur to it being a large car with a heavier than usual battery, what the economy would be like once that battery is depleted, as it isn’t great in the Tucson PHEV. The other thing that would concern me is, the rather small engine carrying all that weight once the battery becomes depleted. The PHEV system in the Kodiaq and wider VW group is new and no one really knows how far it will travel under battery power alone, especially during winter months. Yes it has the benifit of 50kW charging but, for a PHEV this isn’t really nencessary and charging on the go, will likely cost more than filling up with petrol. That said, if you rarely venture further than the batery range, it will prove a cheap and economical vehicle to run. No one can tell you whats best or whether you should buy or rejoin the scheme however, here my food for thought – If you have the funds to purchase your own car, there will always be a % left in it, when you come to sell compared to Motability and you can transfer you adaptions without issue and you a negotiate a discount and service pack. With Mobility, ontop of your AP, you will also have to pay three years of sacrified benifit, which you are aware of, which currently amounts to £12k for PIP claimants. You will almost certainly have to pay for new adaptions that you require. Tyre’s, servicing and insurance etc are included, but you get nothing in return at the end, other than a £250 good condition bonus. There is also more choice outside the scheme and you may find a full hybrid rather than PHEV suits you better for your needs. For example the new Hyundai Santa Fe comes in a variety of powertrains.
Off topic but sort off on topic. Lol. Kezo you were asking me did I drive the MG to Timbuktu after putting £80 of fuel in in 3 weeks. I drove the phev with an empty battery for about a week to see what mpg it would give. 27mpg and some of those were electric due to regen etc.
I wouldn’t be going near a PHEV if I could not charge at home or somewhere else that’s cheap and does not become a nuisance.
So I decided to keep the e3008. Why? Well it was all little electric gremlins and apart from the boot opening which is serious, the rest was more of a nuisance. Also because I managed to scrape together £2.4k for another car and just decided that I wanted to keep it and get a wee weekend away for me and the missus and do the two kids bedrooms up. I made this decision while the car was in the workshop for 3 weeks. I do like the car, it looks great inside and out and that colour is stunning. It drives brilliantly just a bit harsh over poor roads. But it’s such I nice place to sit, especially at night.
Decided to call into the dealers while passing for an update and they told me it’s ready. I wonder when they were going to tell me lol.
The head mechanic was sound and honest. So Peugeot don’t know what to do and only could come up with updates. It had 3 updates and nowt else. He explained that they had witnessed nearly all the faults and he told me that the e3008 he had, the boot had opened itself and he was stunned. He apologised and said that he believes the first batch of cars where just rushed in production to get them out to the showrooms. I went on my way, not amused but not peed either, I made my mind up and hoped that the updates worked or at least fixed most. I only drove it the two mile home and didn’t take it out again until this mornings work and school runs then it was parked up until after 6 when the traffic was quieter and we went for a drive to the coast 77 mile round trip in near perfect weather.
So what was the car like? F’ing a lot worse than when I sent it in. Within an hour of driving it, albeit the next day it was showing a new fault sign ‘electric traction system fault: repair needed’. That’s a new one and a mechanical problem I presume so maybe dangerous? The screens went blank again. The radio knocked itself off well over 30 times, just off/muted as a quick roll of the volume knob put it back on. And the strangest one. I reset the trip before the drive. It’s a lovely evening here so I didn’t need climate on, so just lights and radio on. All a-b roads so driving between 30-50 mph and what is the MiKWH showing 2.2 MiKWH.
What the hell happened from it went in for it to end up so low and being drove easy in perfect conditions. I’m baffled tbh. A big pile of effing scrap that’s going.
I’ve given up on the V2L tbh at the moment. Just a bad car run and now winter is coming is seems a far away dream.
I’ve sat in this car twice. 1. It looks great inside and out. 2. Quality materials again inside. 3. If it drives like the old mg it will be an all round cracking car. Agree with others mind that ap needs to come down a bit. Actually I do think it’s worth the price, but I don’t believe cars with big aps would be for me. Over 3.5k and I would leave the scheme and go private
Aye Glos guy I don’t know what I was worried about, I suppose the horror stories you here about hire companies.
I was able to charge the mg from 0-100 so 32 miles in 3 1/2 hours.
I did Kezo. Such a comfortable car, but back to putting petrol in. Nah. In three weeks I put £80 in it. Nah. Mind I did a wee test so it could have been a lot less.
I don’t want to compound your problems mike but I thought there was regulations regarding gas pipes going through electric boxes. So I googled it and it says that they need to have a distance of 150mm between them. Just incase they come out and say no. Houl on till I holler. KEZO you’ll know the score lol
As rules and regulations changed through the decades, it has not been a requirement to retrospective ugrade, as new regs came in to place, only buildings built on or after a new regulation, was put in force needed to meet, this new set of regulations. In the 60’s there was no specific regulations in place, as distances between electric/gas was not standardised, however common sense and safety guidlines “only” generally recommend, they be seperated by a few inches to a few feet or more, depending on local guidlines (regulations) Today of course, there is a regulation for this and a regulation for that but, it still remains common sense guidelines in the regulations. With my eyes, Mikes are seperated thereabouts 6 inches apart 🙂
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I don’t want to compound your problems mike but I thought there was regulations regarding gas pipes going through electric boxes. So I googled it and it says that they need to have a distance of 150mm between them. Just incase they come out and say no.
Houl on till I holler. KEZO you’ll know the score lol
Don’t pay much heed to those groups and just enjoy the car. I think it’s a cracker by the way.
I’ve a complete dud of an e3008 but I would not put any one of ordering. The e3008 FB has many happy drivers all loving the car and have no problems whatsoever.
You are right mind as peace of mind just incase it’s a breakdown or a puncture. Kezo’s choice is probably best. All numbers in a pouch or laminated and in the glovebox and stored in your phone.
Ps did I mention that the australs a cracker lol
You can’t prove you displayed it and they can’t prove you didn’t display it. But if you have an up to date blue badge you should win an appeal. It’s their job to provide evidence of it it not being displayed IE a clear picture of the front window screen taking in the top of the dashboard where it should be displayed. They haven’t. The fact you have an up to date badge will sway it for you.
I decided to take the HS for a horse down the motorway for a 110 round mile trip to try and get an even more accurate mpg. Drove at 78mph and car is now saying 58.9 mpg which is still impressive. One thing I love is the drive selector sits nicely in front of the arm rest. A slight touch forward and you’re in neutral and that car just rolls and rolls. Wee flick back and it’s in drive again and you can’t feel any change going between them. It just keeps moving. Also the move from electric to engine is seamless.
It’s a cracking car and so comfortable. One big problem is that the rear view mirror sits really low and is a nuisance as it blocks so much of the view. Steering a bit heavy? Maybe not as I think I’m just used to the really light steering on the Kona and e3008.
No Kezo but it has only done 1.5k miles but I went and looked at it earlier. Very impressive, lovely looking inside and out. Has similar very comfortable seats and sticks with the soft touch materials. It will be interesting to see what the phev ap will be. If it came in at 2k or under I would probably have it over the £3k Tucson. Purely so I can keep 1k as I think they would both be great cars.
I’m in an MG HS phev now and love it. So much so that I went to see what the ap was and unfortunately the phev is gone. It’s has a few niggles which I’m sure I could fix myself, but as it’s a hire car I can’t be … Going through menus etc. But it’s the most comfortable car I’ve been in in a long time. So far I’ve done about 300 miles mixed driving ant it’s 70.01 mpg and has a lot of kit. It also looks well outside and inside and has some nice premium feel materials inside. But as Kezo says the petrol version maybe thirsty.
Again the Tucson and austral are nice looking motors and have decent kit.
My dealer was off when the e3008 ap dropped a lot. Another salesman did it for me and it was done before i knew or asked.
I read a few posts about Volvo dealers, they seem to be the worst for not wanting to change ap’s.
Ah right lol. Declan the best way is to look at your miles per kilowatt and multiply by the battery capacity.
3.8 mpkw x 73 (battery capacity) = 278 miles of range.
3.3 mpkw x 73 = 241 miles of range.
The 3.3 really does sound like it’s weather/time of year related. Wipers, lights, heating, demisting etc. I’d say that’s about right for a car this size.
As others have said. The GOM is and indicator only and can be very unreliable. It will come to you soon enough. I’ve run both cars from 100% to near zero so I know what’s in reserve and the Kona was similar to the e3008.
When range digits disappear and it’s just bars, I can get 12 mile of driving at around 60mph, when turtle mode kicks in I can get around 2 mile of speeds no higher than 50, then after about 2 miles I can get at least 1 mile no higher than 25mph. That’s when I thought I’ll not push it too far and charged it up. That is with with everything off that can be off.
I only done this so I know if I get caught out then I know what’s in reserve and will get me to either a charger or home to charge.
Declan someone is copying your posts on here to the e3008 FB page.
Looks like there are a few FB members returning their cars due to range and charging problems. People really need to do their homework before ordering. Although the e3308 was a brand new car you still would have got a similar reviews of other EV models regarding battery and range. One returning as they say the public charging cables are too heavy awkward. Something that can be checked before ordering tbh to save the hassle of waiting, getting, returning, waiting for another car.
Also a few people who have just went head first without doing some research. I studied long and hard before getting the old Kona to make sure it would work.
Declan I’m pretty sure the headlight issue was dealt with in a very early recall and believe our cars are not effected. Most people don’t know how the lights work tbh.
When driving at night on auto full beam and a car approaches the right head light dims so that it won’t blind other drivers, but it is still full beam on left side. The fact that not all cars are flashing suggests it’s working.
It’s been spoke about here about drivers being flashed when they know that full beam is off. Modern lights are so bright that some think that your full beam is on.
Mine works well for oncoming cars but is hit and miss when coming in and out of street lights. Honestly it’s a shit set up and in my case is so slow to switch back to high beam so I started just flicking between high and low manually. Basically the lights are just shite and sometimes tech advances sound great on paper but are practically keke bobo.
Sorry just reread your post and that makes sense as in it working. High beam will switch off in areas of street light as the car senses light everywhere in front. But if a car approaches it will only knock off the high beam on that side of the road and when behind a car still on full but slightly dipped so not to blind but still flooding road with light.
Rich for me it would have been car camping. In hindsight the logical thing for me to do would have been going for the much bigger Enyaq with mild 4×4 and lower ap then buying a power bank with the money saved on ap.
Mick the £1 is to register your card with them so if you leave it back with no fuel etc they can charge your card.
I think it was 5 days including a weekend that I had no car. Hurst (dealer), motability and europacar were useless and if I hadn’t have chased it up I probably would still not have a car
Dee I’m in an europacar now and I don’t know when I’ll get my car back. I requested an automatic SUV and had to wait over three days for it.
Mick C they will want a £1 charge on your card to cover anything.
Also check for damage as mine had quite a bit.
Just about to post that Dave as I drove past this morning and they have one sitting outside advertising that. And immediate delivery.
No V2L brydo. V2H sounds good mind, although not quite sure how it works. I think there’s a member on here who invested in big battery storage for the home. Cheap electric at night stored and used during the day when electricity is more expensive.
This would mean that your car stores the electric and it can be used in the same way.
V2H is similar but only you sell it back to the grid.
If motability did help which I think they won’t, but if they did they will just take your mobility component money and let you hire a car. So why not just use your mobility money and hire yourself a car in the meantime time.
You could cancel the order if you find a stock car that suits which you could get in between 3 days to two weeks.
What’s the plan with old car. Fix and sell, trade in or scrap? If the first two then you need it fixed anyway. Get it done asap so you have a car until your original order is ready.
Jonnybegood your right about ev charging points not being suitable for all disabilities. I’m fine and a big strong lad and while recently charging at a rapid charger my first thought was how do those with certain disabilities are even those a bit frail cope with the big heavy cables.
To be exact it’s not necessarily the actual weight but, when removing and especially replacing the charging head from the charger, it’s the rigidness of the thick cable that makes it harder to manoeuvre, especially if your chair means you cannot get as close to the charger. Also with side charging ports making it that wee bit harder, I think front charging ports on cars would make it easier for some people. Not everybody’s disabilities are the same so some will manage and some won’t.
Your also 100% right about range worries, I don’t like the term range anxiety tbh. Regarding cars on the scheme it’s safe to say if you didn’t think about it you’d be foolish.
My current car advertises 326 and I would get about 220. Now I’m in Belfast and if I want to go to Dublin I don’t need to give it a second thought, plenty of chargers there and back. One of my other favourite drives is Donegal and there is one 50kw charging port in killybegs, if that ain’t working then I’m snookered as there are no others around that part of Donegal. Doesn’t matter how many apps you check to make sure it’s working, if it ain’t I’m in trouble. It’s the only place where I had a near miss and I panicked. I would imagine rural middle Ireland to be like rural middle England in that there may be a hell of lot less charging points. So some drives do not require any thought, some require some thought and some will require a lit of thought and some luck. I’ve seen quite a few videos of people doing John o groats to lands end in EVs without a problem, but facts are facts and i cannot get to parts of Donegal which is about 250 miles for me unless that one single charging point is working. And with that part of the world being so remote it will probably never change, mind ranges will.
This is something that could happen to ice cars, but nowhere on the scale of EV cars and a reason why some forum users here just won’t commit to ev yet, and why a lot of others won’t either.
It works for most but not all.
Ele is right. You’ve made a mistake and don’t want the car anymore. I don’t believe you will be charged for the charger, but you will pay a £250 admin fee and will have a strike, mark, tick or whatever they call it against you. I believe it three of them and they will remove you from the scheme so choose wisely.
