Could Prime Minister Boris Johnson break up the UK?

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    Brydo
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      The Scottish Conservative (and Unionist) party has enjoyed something of resurgence in recent years under the energetic leadership of Ruth Davidson.

      The party’s opponents are convinced that Boris Johnson as prime minister could put an end to all that – and could even put an end to the union between Scotland the rest of the UK.

      It’s true that Mr Johnson could hardly be more different from the down to earth, plain speaking and Remain-voting Ms Davidson. The two are not friends and have vehemently disagreed before.

      Some observers like to speculate that Boris will appear to Scottish voters to be the very epitome of the upper-class English ruling caste that Scots so dislike. But policy may well prove to be more important than personality.

      Mr Johnson appeared to have a weak grasp of the dynamics of devolution when he proposed tax changes that take no account of the fact that income tax rates in Scotland are set by the Scottish Parliament.

      But since then he has promised Scottish Tory MPs he will set up a “union unit” inside No 10 to check every policy. If he knows what he doesn’t know, then maybe he can avoid these gaffes as PM.

      It’s Brexit that may be his undoing, in so many ways. In Remain-voting Scotland, his problem is that the idea of a no deal Brexit is far less palatable than it is in the rest of the UK. The harder the Brexit Boris delivers, the more the Tory party in Scotland could suffer.

      If Prime Minister Johnson [he will officially take on the role this Wednesday] pursues a Brexit policy at odds with what most voters in Scotland would like to see, then it’s possible they may change their minds about whether remaining part of the UK is in their best interests. Some recent polling evidence suggests as many as 60% of voters could vote “yes” to independence if we leave the EU with no deal.

      In the end it may not be the precise details of any Brexit deal that stokes desire for independence – or indeed the character of any individual politician – but a sense that Scotland has different aspirations from the rest of the UK, which can’t be reconciled within the current union.

      If Mr Johnson wants to keep the kingdom united, he will need to take care not fan those flames.

      The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
      Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

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    • #87020
      Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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        I wonder if Jacob Rees mog would have been a better prime minister ? He is like an Edwardian gent

        #87021
        Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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          Think I’ll have a kip

          #87024
          fwippers
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            Jiggery Pokery extraordinaire galore,

            I dont think I can take anymore,

            The weekend has arrived just in time,

            I think I need a glass of (non alcoholic) wine,

            Its Brexit this and Brexit that,

            More sense is spoken by my cat,

            I dont know where it will all end,

            Its driving everybody around the bend.

            Time for coffee!!!!!!!!!!!

            #87026
            Brydo
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              Excellent piece of work fwipperie

              The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
              Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

              #87027
              Avatar photoPOPS
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                Nice one fwipperie.

                #87043
                Brydo
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                  Amber Rudd has resigned, another one bites the dust.

                  The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                  Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                  #87044
                  fwippers
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                    I see Amber Rudd has resigned and left the Conservative party.   I have an inkling the next parliament will be completely different to this one.

                    #87045
                    fwippers
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                      • Brydo, you beat me to it by 60 seconds
                      #87047
                      wmcforum
                      Which Mobility Car

                        Respect. Too many would have sat it out. Bravo.

                        #87048
                        Brydo
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                          Anymore leaving?

                          The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                          Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                          #87049
                          fwippers
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                            Shambolic

                            #87053
                            joss
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                              650 Blue bottles hanging on the wall,
                              650 Blue bottles hanging on the wall,
                              And if one Blue bottle should accidentally fall,
                              There’ll be 649 Blue bottles hanging on the wall.

                              649 Blue bottles hanging on the wall,
                              649 Blue bottles hanging on the wall,
                              And if one Blue bottle should accidentally fall,
                              There’ll be 648 Blue bottles hanging on the wall.

                              ——————–Snip———————

                              You get the picture…

                               

                              Joss
                              Current car: BMW X2 sDrive 20i M Sport 5dr Step Auto In metallic Portimão Blue. 04:10:2025
                              Previous car:Peugeot 308 GT Premium 1.2 Pure tech Petrol.

                              #87055
                              Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                                Just watching the Andrew marr show young Amanda has been on

                                #87057
                                Avatar photoPOPS
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                                  Is this the death of two party politics?

                                  #87059
                                  Philjb

                                    Crazy times ahead, Nigel as Boris’s deputy pm before Christmas?

                                    I may move to Alaska off the grid.

                                     

                                    #87060
                                    Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                                      Yes pops I can also see a civil war in this country

                                      #87073
                                      fwippers
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                                        Just had a read of the Sunday’s at out local coffee shop and it’s difficult to know what to believe and whats going to happen next. Some say this is all part of BJ’s plan and opinion polls put the Tories way ahead. Others say he will ignore any bill to delay & refuse to do so even if it means risking jail. Others say if he is forced to do so he will use article 17 to stop the EU functioning at all on 1st November and use our veto on everything if the EU decide to extend the 31st October deadline. I dont know the exact mechanics but the Times article seemed to suggest it is a real possibility should BJ wish to do this.

                                        I think almost all the MP’s are making themselves look completely foolish. Labour and Co in refusing an election. Umunna and co who are now on their 3rd political party and the Tories who “appear” in chaos. and the Tories who “appear” in chaos. But is this all part of BJ’s plan?  A recent poll said only 13% of the public think MP’s represent their interests and 75% think they do not.

                                        I enjoyed Joss’s poem but it would be nice to see it completed!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would make a nice, but long, relaxing read.

                                        #87074
                                        Brydo
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                                          Not sure if its the death Pops but its very badly damaged and will be further damaged before this is complete.

                                          BJ will not stop until we are out of the EU, probably with a hard Brexit. I see a vote of confidence coming soon but not before the coalition have decided on who will lead a Party of Unity.

                                          The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                          Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                          #87075
                                          fwippers
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                                            Possibly Brydo but it could come too late. There is massive pressure on Labour to vote for an election now. Threats and manipulation from all sides in what looks like being a fascinating week ahead. I think we all appear to agree the country is divided and I think ALL our politicians (on both sides of the Brexit debate) are to blame in amplifying this. I wonder if we are close to or have passed the point of no return?

                                            #87076
                                            Brydo
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                                              Fwipperie there is virtually no chance of labour voting for a GE.

                                              The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                              Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                              #87080
                                              wmcforum
                                              Which Mobility Car

                                                Brydo, a week is a long time in politics.

                                                Labour, as I am beginning to realise, may find the only way to guarantee a no deal Brexit is completely off the table is to agree to a General Election.

                                                #87081
                                                Brydo
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                                                  They will agree once the three month extension is a cast iron certaintity.

                                                  The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                                  Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                                  #87082
                                                  Avatar photoMenorca Mike
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                                                    Couldn’t Boris merge with Nigel after the election ?

                                                    #87091
                                                    Brydo
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                                                      Mike it looks as if Garage has agreed not to fight in seats held by members of the ERG who voted against Mrs May’s deal so they are definitely talking. They will, however, need to talk a lot more, as without an agreement over which seats they contest the Tories won’t get an overall majority.

                                                      The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
                                                      Anything i post over three lines long please assume it is an article lol.

                                                      #87092
                                                      fwippers
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                                                        I am going to predict that next weeks events are going to be virtually impossible to predict! I think I might be right this time?

                                                         

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