[kezo]

The MGS5 may well  be worth a look. Gets heatpump as standard with NMC chemistry, so has more energy density per Kg than LFP. Bjorn Neyland tested at 253Wh/Km (157 miles) @3.8c/avg 5c, which isn’t a million miles away, infact very similar when you consider ambient temp than the VW group with a larger battery but no HP – the ID3 227Wh/Km @4-9c avg 8.5c and around the same as Skoda’s 160mile quoted range winter motorway, if your following me😂

Bjorn did another video with the S5 during his time with it and driving like an old man beat wltp figures so perhaps thats your answer😂

The EX5 was updated in 2026 , which saw the battery capacity increased from 64 to 68.4kWh gross meaning most sites are now out of date, but unfortunately there are no reputable range tests out there yet.

Moving to something with a c77kWh useable battery MGS6/EV5 is a big jump in in dosh, which can be better spent or saved unless sticking with entry level variants. The S6 gets the advantage of an heatpump, which do work imo.

I copied this last night to clipboard, but forget where from now lol, but it surrounded testing of  different models:

Kia EV5 GT-Line S

Data
Price £48,045 (£48,045 as tested)
Powertrain 81.4kWh battery, e-motor, front-wheel drive
Performance 214bhp, 218Ib ft, 8.4sec 0-62mph, 102mph
Weight 2100kg (est)
Efficiency 4.01 miles per kWh (official), 3.2 miles per kWh (tested), 313-mile range (official), 245-mile range (tested)
Length/width/height 4610/1875/1675mm
Boot capacity 566/1650 litres + 44-litre frunk

Renault Scenic Iconic Esprit Alpine

Data
Price £41,995 (£41,995 as tested)
Powertrain 87kWh battery, e-motor, front-wheel drive
Performance 217bhp, 221Ib ft, 7.9sec 0-62mph, 105mph
Weight 1866kg
Efficiency 3.5 miles per kWh (official), 2.7 miles per kWh (tested), 381-mile range (official), 224-mile range (tested)
Length/width/height 4470/1864/1571mm
Boot capacity 545/1449 litres

Skoda Enyaq 85 Lounge

Data
Price £44,550 (£47,710 as tested)
Powertrain 82kWh battery, e-motor, rear-wheel drive
Performance 282bhp, 402Ib ft, 6.7sec 0-62mph, 111mph Weight 2058kg
Efficiency 4.1 miles per kWh (official), 2.7 miles per kWh (tested), 359-mile range (official), 208-mile range (tested)
Length/width/height 4658/1879/1622mm
Boot capacity 585/1710 litres

Smart #5 Premium 100kWh and 358bhp

Data
Price £47,300 (£47,300 as tested)
Powertrain 100kWh battery, e-motor, rear-wheel drive
Performance 358bhp, 275Ib ft, 6.5sec 0-62mph, 124mph
Weight 2260kg
Efficiency 3.38 miles per kWh (official), 1.47 miles per kWh (tested), 366-mile range (official), 138-mile range (tested)
Length/width/height 4695/1920/1705mm
Boot capacity 630/1530 litres + 72-litre frunk

 

 

 

[wmcforum]

Wednesday 1st April 2026 – Vehicles on the Scheme – 701                                  Change -72

 

Peugeot -7  (1 petrol, 3 plugin hybrid, 3 electric)

2008 -2

3008 -3

408 -2  Removed from Scheme

 

Polestar -1   (Removed from Scheme)

Polestar -1  Removed from Scheme

 

Renault -4  (1 petrol, 2 diesel, 1 electric)

Renault 4   -3   Removed from Scheme

Renault 5  +2   £5-6000 Advance Payment

Clio -1

Traffic -2  Removed from Scheme

 

SEAT -17  (14 petrol 3 diesel)

Leon -14

Ibiza -4

Arona +1

 

Skoda +1   (+3 petrol, +1 diesel, -3 electric)

Fabia +1

Kamiq +3

Enyaq -3  +£1250 on AP, 4×4 and Maxx cars removed

Scala -1

Kodiaq +1

 

Smart +0

Hashtag#1   £750/£1000 increase in Advance Payment

 

Subaru -2  (hybrid)

Forester -2   Removed from Scheme

 

Suzuki -8  (5 petrol, 3 hybrid)

S-Cross -6  (still 6 to choose from)

Vitara -2   (still 6 to choose from)

 

Toyota +8  (+13 hybrid, -5 plugin hybrid)

CHR +1

Corolla -5  Removed from Scheme

Yaris Cross +3

Yaris +4

Aygo X +5   Return to Scheme

 

Vauxhall +2  (1 petrol, 1 electric)

Corsa -6

Frontera +4

Mokka +3

Grandland -2

Astra +5

Combo Life -2   Removed from Scheme

Interesting pricing this quarter, the Frontera electric his priced between nil and £749 Advance Payment, the Corsa over £5249 AP and other are £6999 AP.

 

Volkswagen -16  (-5 petrol, +3 diesel, -1 plugin hybrid, -13 electric)

Tiago +1

T-Cross -1

ID3 -9

Golf -1

Polo +1

ID4 -4  Only 1 left, 52kWh battery 222 mile range Match Pure trim £1249 Advance Payment

Tayron +2

T-Roc -5

 

Volvo -3  (1 petrol, 2 electric)

EX30 -2   Removed from Scheme

V60 -2  Removed from Scheme

 

 

 

[kezo]

DumfriesDik wrote:

An ICE car will cost a lot more to maintain than an EV. Unless you’re handy with a spanner. I fancy an ID Buzz but they are super expensive. Too much for me.

I was watching a youtube video last night, which covered by and selling insurance catagory damaged EV’s, most of the video was irrelevant to this page, apart from taking it VW for a service and have a recall and software updates done. I was amazed at what VW charged for a service.

Rather than put up the video, a comment from id3 forums would be better suited:

”

Post by Electro » Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:30 pm

I’ve had my 77kWh ID.3 for just over a year now and it’s time for the first service. I like the car very much (apart from the software, obviously) but am shocked by the quotes I’m getting for service. Generally they are just over £400 and within pounds of each other, with a couple of independants at around £350. I would have thought £200 was fair but still on the high side. I’ve just been told by Volvo that they charge around £120 for the same thing on an electric car, but won’t do mine because they don’t have access to the VW software. My only option seems to be to accept VW’s service package, which also throws in an MoT test and a brake fluid change later on, for about £360.
Can anyone offer any advice?”

https://www.id3forums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4023

That really is not to difference from ICE!!

[Joe]

Considering the only EVs with a decent range have either been removed, Scenic/Elroq, or rocketed in price, i.e Enyaq, ID3 long range and ID4 and the Ioniq, I doubt I will be leasing another electric car next time anyway. I have a scenic at the moment that gets around 280-300, but the cars with a range in the low 200s or less when taking into account their real world milage, will be way to low for my needs.

[Rene]

MFillingham wrote:

We test drove the 6 before getting the 5, it’s a lovely car, although we preferred the 5 for ride comfort. The major problem we found with it was that the back felt like it was in a cave, which isn’t helpful for long journeys when one passenger has anxiety and the other back issues. The 6 is also a longer car and having reversed the 5 into our drive many times now, I’m glad I didn’t have to negotiate that with a much longer car, there really isn’t much space with a van usually parked on one side and someone’s car parked infront of our fence and not much road width, it turns into a much tighter corner than you’d like when the gate itself is only a few inches spare each side. Maybe if there was a version with a pano roof, it might feel a bit better.

That’s fair, it is indeed quite.. substantial. Our autistic nephew (16 years old) loves it in the rear, precisely due to the “cave” (“fort”) nature, reducing external stimulation quite a bit.

The Ioniq 6 does have a sunroof, as an aside. Not panoramic, but it opens, which i personally prefer (and, again imo, makes a car feel much more airy). Similar for my wife which also has anxiety issues – but, of course, that’s a spectrum.

There’s no getting around the size though, if that’s not a good fit (and i can very much understand that), then it’s not an option.

The Jaecoo is an absolute minger, imho – it’s a deranged Rover from Temu, with a very traditionally chinese grille. Drives quite awful, too. The Kona of course is always a solid recommendation, past that.. maybe the ID3, maybe the E-Vitara (not 100% sure on range for that one), MGS5, and, well.. that’s it for the budget in the current (absolutely horrendous) list.

As a small aside, without peeking etc too much.. the way we save up for MB cars (at least partially) is through the energy bill, lol. After the Ukraine war broke out, when energy bills (slightly, sigh) relaxed, we added a 10% overhead to the bill, building credit over the years. When it came to ordering the Ioniq 6, we requested a partial refund on our credit and paid with no issues.

Of course you could just set money aside monthly manually, but doing it this way made it easier for us personally. No temptations. I know that there are better alternatives, but that worked for us.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[wmcforum]

Wednesday 1st October 2025 – Vehicles on the Scheme – 899                                  Change +34

 

Lexus +1  (hybrid)

LBX +1

 

Mazda -5  (petrol)

CX5 -5

 

Mercedes -3  (2 plugin hybrid, 1 electric)

CLA Estate -1

CLA Coupe -1  Removed from Scheme

EQA -1  Removed from Scheme

 

MG -2  (1 plugin hybrid, 1 electric)

HS -1  (phev removed)

MG4 -1  Removed from Scheme

 

Mini +0  

Countryman +5  £1299 -£3999 AP

Mini convertible -1

Mini 3 door -3

Moni 5 door -1

 

Nissan +2  (electric)

Ariya +2  £1499 – £5749 AP

 

Omoda +2 (petrol)

Omoda5 +2  from £499 AP

 

Peugeot -5  (2 petrol, 3 plugin hybrid)

2018 -1

2008 +1

Rifter +1

3008 -2

5008 -1

308 -1

Traveller -2  Removed from Scheme

 

Polestar +1  (electric)

Polestar2 +1

 

Renault +11  (2 diesel, 9 electric)

Traffic +2  Return to Scheme £7995 AP

Renault 5 +6  New Car  £4295 – £6795 AP

Renault 4  +3  New Car  £4995 – £6495 AP

 

Seat -7  (4 diesel, 3 petrol)

Leon hatch  +4

Leon estate +5

Arona -16  Removed from Scheme

 

Skoda -3  (-4 electric, +1 diesel)

Enyaq -4

Kodiaq +1  diesel £4499 AP !!!

 

Smart -1  (electric)

hashtag1 price increased by £1000

hashtag3 -1  Removed from Scheme

 

Subaru +1  (petrol)

Outback +1

 

Suzuki +8  (+9 petrol, -6 hybrid, +5 electric)

E-Vitara +5  New Car up to 361 mile range £999 -£3199 AP

S-Cross +3

 

Toyota -11  (-2 petrol, -7 hybrid, -1 plugin hybrid, -1 electric)

Aygo X -2

Yaris -2

Yaris Cross +2

Corolla -7

Bz4x -1  Removed from Scheme

Rav4 -1 Removed from Scheme

 

Vauxhall -6  (3 petrol, 3 electric)

Frontera +2

Corsa -5

Mokka -4

Grandland +3

Astra -2

 

Volkswagen +18  (+8 petrol, -1 diesel, +11 electric)

ID3 +8

T-Roc +4

Tiago +2

Tayron -6

Tiguan +6

Caddy Maxi -3

ID4 +2

Transporter Shuttle +5  New Car 8 seat diesel £4999 – £6999 AP

 

Volvo +1  (petrol)

V60 +1  Return to Scheme  £3999 AP

 

 

 

[DumfriesDik]

I don’t think my VW ID3 was typical at 18 months! The Skoda Enyaq was much quicker, but I doubt it was within three months, but not far off it.

I hope your car arrives PDQ

Skoda Enyaq Race Blue

[Rene]

I also have never tried drowning, still know that it’s not a great experience. That’s not an argument.

Realistically, it depends on your monetary situation as well as what chargers you have around. One of the biggest advantages of EVs, the cheaper running costs, are moot if you can only charge at public chargers. If you want your car charged within the hour, expect it to be more expensive than a petrol powered vehicle.

You’ll also have to charge it more often than you have to refill a petrol car (especially in winter, where, depending on the car, you effectively only have 230 miles range on a 100% battery – optimistically), and of course depending on the charger, you’ll either sit there for a while, or dust off the wallet. For reference, an ID3 from 10-80% takes an hour on a 50kw charger. It can charge faster, but then you’re getting into territories of £0.80+ per kwh, taking a full recharge to £50+, while having at most 3/4 of the range of an equivalent petrol engine.

If you want “somewhat” of an EV experience, look into PHEVs. Those you can charge from a socket just fine. Pure EV, as someone who drives mostly electric in a PHEV, would not be an option without being able to charge at home. Categorically.

It just is an incredibly inconvenient way of motoring, you always gotta have “some” juice in the pack for emergencies etc pp. That’s at least my opinion on that front – and also, our “use-case”. If you only drive 3 miles a week, of course that all changes, it very much depends on how (and how much) you intend to use it.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[wmcforum]

Tuesday 5th August 2025 – Vehicles on the Scheme – 888                                          Change -8

Subaru +1  (hybrid)

Forester +1  (return to Scheme) Limited trim £3999 Advance Payment

 

Volkswagen -9  (electric)

iD3 -9  streamlining of trims, 3 cars available £899 – £2849 AP

 

[wmcforum]

Saturday 2nd August 2025 – Vehicles on the Scheme – 896                                            Change -3

Volkswagen -3 (electric)

ID3 -3

 

[wmcforum]

Friday 1st August 2025 – Vehicles on the Scheme – 899                                            Change +35

 

Audi +23  (electric +5, petrol +18)

A1 +12

Model 25 and 30, 25 being suitable for under 25 year old. £2199 – £3399 Advance Payment, Sport, S-Line and Black Edition trim.

Q3 +6

35 model, manual and automatic, Sport, S-Line and Black Edition trim. £2999 – £3999 Advance Payment

Q4 +5

Sport and S-Line trim, 82kWh battery 331 mile range, Quattro in Sport trim – All prices at £7999 Advance Payment

 

Volkswagen +12  (electric)

ID3  +12

£899 – £5399 AdvancePayment, three battery sizes, 52kWh claimed 240 mile range, 59kWh – 268 mile range and 79kWh 350 mile range.

 

[Rene]

Keep in mind that the HUD in the Explorer isn’t the same as in the ID3. It’s more akin to the one i currently have in the GTE (non-augmented).

Personally, if it was standard, i’d turn it off. 360 camera, the demonstrator had one (was fully kitted), still didn’t use it. It’s more agile/lower turning radius than a Golf, don’t need a 360 cam in there either.

But of course, that’s each to their own. Autoparking does certainly work (worked in my Ateca as well as in the Golf) – it simply is too slow. I can park faster by hand, considerably so. I’d even wager that i’m in the parking bay before the other guy starts reversing.

Personally, the £700 we save for (for us) superfluous options, are better invested in a frunk tray (£200ish quid), boot liner etc.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[Nasher]

I am due to order my next car in March 26. The Ioniq 6 is top of my list, advance payment for War pensioner is great value, the 6 is having a facelift with the rear spoilers now becoming just one smaller spoiler. New front lights and a couple of minor tweaks. I have everything crossed it’s still available next year. I took it for a test drive and it’s lovely to drive and very comfortable. Way better than my Megane e and my previous ID3. Good luck with your search.

[Rene]

kdwolf wrote:

Rene wrote:

kdwolf wrote:

As to the battery in likes of Skoda, mine is from April 2024 with 30,000 miles and on full charge it doesn’t go above 282 anymore. Went well above 310 last summer

That’s…. not how you measure range/capacity. The number you’re quoting is dynamic. If i take my GTE and blast it all day long, and then go refill, it will give me a total range of maybe 300 miles on the petrol engine. It’s currently 420 miles. That doesn’t mean the petrol engine degraded, it means that the computer gives me a range estimate based on my last “x” miles driven. The Enyaq has the same battery (just additional cells) as the ID3 LR that degraded by 8% over 100k miles. The same “lost 20mpg by going E5” stuff again.

My reference was to the charging: I charge at home. Normally I charge up to the 80% limit. Occasionally I do charge to 100%. In those cases, when I charge all the way to 100% I used to see 310 miles last year, when fully charged. Now it doesn’t go above 282. I have shared a corresponding picture in one of the chats on this forum recently. Hope it clarified my point. N.B. my driving patterns are consistent – I am far beyond the age of GTE like driving.

That’s my point.

That’s not how it works. You need to measure how much actual electricity goes into the battery, in total. That means you have to drive it all the way 0%, and charge fully to 100%. The amount of electricity going into your battery is what describes degradation.

The number your display gives you is entirely meaningless. That numbers is calculated based on a thousand things, all variable from day to day (traffic, temperature, weather etc pp). As i explained with my GTE example. Currently a 100% tank, according to the GoM (guess-o-meter, colloquially called like that for a reason), nets me 420 miles range. I can show you a picture of it. Now, tomorrow i show you a picture where a 100% tank nets me 340 miles range. Same with our battery pack – it right now shows 29 miles fully charged. That’s because i drove a bit like a pig last night before charging. Today i’ll drive a bit more.. “adjusted”, and the battery will show 35 miles range fully charged (which is our average). In fact, here’s a fun one: i have pictures of the car indicating 49 miles electric range straight after charging. That’s basically impossible, more than 10 miles more than even VW advertises. It just adjusted its “range-guess” based on available data, based on my average energy consumption of the last journeys.

But, here’s the funny thing. We always charge the same amount of electricity, more or less (obviously depending on what’s still in the pack).

Will your pack have degraded? Sure. But it doesn’t degrade more than 10% over the course of a year. That’s just not happening unless your pack is damaged, in which case your car would notify you.

edit: if you’re really curious, after the next long drive, don’t charge it – drive it up and down the road until you maybe have 1-5% battery left (or less if you feel adventurous) – then charge it to 100% in one go (might need to “boost charge” if you’re on Octopus Intelligent Go etc). Check your charger afterwards, see how many kwh it pumped into the battery. Add 5kwh (that’s how much the Enyaq battery reserves for safety – so 0% means there’s 5kwh left in the pack) to that number, and you get your current total capacity.

Assuming of course, that your charger tells you how much it charged, i’m only familiar with our Easee – i’d assume that’s a feature on all chargers though.

edit2: for funsies.

I know that that’s a full charge. 10.45kwh, the GTE has 10.9 usable from factory. We lost 0.45% of capacity over 2.5 years (the majority of drives are electric, as seen by 147kwh in June alone). And we don’t take care of it either, as such – we charge to 100% every time, recently also quite a few times pre-conditioned on the charger. Car has done now 16k miles.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[kdwolf]

Rene wrote:

kdwolf wrote:

As to the battery in likes of Skoda, mine is from April 2024 with 30,000 miles and on full charge it doesn’t go above 282 anymore. Went well above 310 last summer

That’s…. not how you measure range/capacity. The number you’re quoting is dynamic. If i take my GTE and blast it all day long, and then go refill, it will give me a total range of maybe 300 miles on the petrol engine. It’s currently 420 miles. That doesn’t mean the petrol engine degraded, it means that the computer gives me a range estimate based on my last “x” miles driven. The Enyaq has the same battery (just additional cells) as the ID3 LR that degraded by 8% over 100k miles. The same “lost 20mpg by going E5” stuff again.

 

My reference was to the charging:

I charge at home.

Normally I charge up to the 80% limit.

Occasionally I do charge to 100%.

In those cases, when I charge all the way to 100% I used to see 310 miles last year, when fully charged. Now it doesn’t go above 282. I have shared a corresponding picture in one of the chats on this forum recently.

 

Hope it clarified my point.

 

N.B. my driving patterns are consistent – I am far beyond the age of GTE like driving.

Sent from a mobile device.
Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.

Motability Skoda Enyaq SportLine 85x April 2024 (unhappy customer - Ombudsman pending)
Motability Mazda CX-60 PHEV July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)

[Rene]

kdwolf wrote:

As to the battery in likes of Skoda, mine is from April 2024 with 30,000 miles and on full charge it doesn’t go above 282 anymore. Went well above 310 last summer

That’s…. not how you measure range/capacity.

The number you’re quoting is dynamic. If i take my GTE and blast it all day long, and then go refill, it will give me a total range of maybe 300 miles on the petrol engine. It’s currently 420 miles. That doesn’t mean the petrol engine degraded, it means that the computer gives me a range estimate based on my last “x” miles driven.

The Enyaq has the same battery (just additional cells) as the ID3 LR that degraded by 8% over 100k miles. The same “lost 20mpg by going E5” stuff again.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[Rene]

My comment was less about the current grant, and more like what they should’ve done in my opinion.

Battery chemistry in that regard means nothing. With the obvious caveat that even if Tesla packs are different, the ID3 doesn’t lose much range over 100k miles either.

Point was, boost the 2nd hand market, don’t flood it with even more cheap EVs from leasing companies. It just drives up the prices.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[Rene]

Chinese manufacturers are doing the same, bringing their own “grant”.

It’s all bollocks. Should’ve offered 50.000 free miles with every 2nd hand EV (similar to Ford does it, a lump payment towards the energy supplier), stuff like that, to increase uptake on used EVs. Or potentially some decent publicity to the fact that the battery scaremongering was entirely bollocks (omg, 3 years and you lose 30% range!!).

I’ve seen 300.000 mile Teslas that still have more range than an Enyaq 60, they tested a 100.000 mile ID3 that lost 8% total, etc.

Devaluing EVs more and more will shoo away fleet operators, which are the driving force behind the uptake. It’s just through and through stupid, not that i’d expect anything else by a politician but still.. It’s not rocket science.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[kezo]

Glos Guy wrote:

If I’m reading this correctly, it may not only apply to base models and there is some leeway on the £37k. Under the ‘Definition of Price Cap’ section, it says; Where a vehicle model has multiple powertrain options (that is options that affect the capacity of the battery, drive train configuration, or maximum net power) eligibility will be determined by the RRP price for the lowest priced variant of each distinct powertrain. For example, if a vehicle model has a 50Kwh battery option priced at £35,000 to £40,000 and a 60Kwh battery option priced at £40,000 to £45,000, all of the 50Kwh battery variants would be eligible, none of the 60Kwh battery variants would be eligible. So would that mean that as long as the base model is under £37k, higher trim variants with the same powertrain would also be eligible, regardless of price?

Yes!

The prices are the starting price RRP (can you add packs??) – some models like the MG will allow top spec inc long range – others will allow base to middle trim depending on the battery size.

Examples quoted on manufacturers battery sizes gross/net-

 

Skoda Elroq:

50kW battery version: SE (£31510) SEL (£33,360) Edition (34,460) Sportline (37,410) VRS (N/A)

60kw battery version: SEL (£33,360) Edition (£34,460) Sportline (£37,410)

85kw battery version: N/A

VW ID3:

52kW battery: Pure Essential (£30,860) Pure Match (£32,220)

59kW battery: Pro Essential (£35,740) Pro Match (£36,660)

79kW battery: N/A

MG MG4 – All models:

49kW battery: SE (£26,995)

64kW battery: SE (£29,495) Trophy (£32,495)

77kW battery: Trophy (£36,495)

Kia EV3 (base spec only)-

58.3kW battery: Air (£32,940)

81kW battery: Air (£35,940)

Mini Countryman:

64.6 kW battery: Classic (£33,005) Sport (£36,705)

Vauxhall Grandland:

73kW battery: Design (£35,125) GS (£37,075.00)

98kW battery (N/A)

That’s it I’ve had enough 😂

 

 

 

[Rene]

Makes sense.

Sadly, none of the “interesting” cars on the scheme qualify for the grant (37k RRP maximum). Many of the mid-range vehicles on the scheme are considerably dearer than that, so i don’t think we’ll see a big impact on APs – this applies mostly to small battery EVs.

Even volume models like the ID3 don’t qualify with their usable battery – there’s not going to be much uptake for a base model short range ID3 (and how much impact would it have on £800 AP anyway?).

It’s all a bit naff. That grant is nonsensical, they should’ve taken that money and boosted the 2nd hand market instead.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[jps]

Interesting I’ll have another look at the enyaq edition and it’s spec. I was initially keen on the coupe but would still order the estate at the right price.

The v1 avascan does have heating steering wheel but as Rene said no heated seats or matrix.

Your right kezo I could cope without matrix, it’s just I’ve been spoilt having them on the id3.

[jps]

Yes I’m pretty sure your right but it’s difficult to ignore the good looks and power of the tavascan.

One thing I’m concerned the cupra doesn’t have is matrix headlights. A feature in used to on my current id3 and there awesome in the winter. I believe the Hyundai ionic 5 n line has matrix lights.

It’s good looks and power Vs superior tech but slightly duller looking I guess.

 

 

[Fastbike1000]

What I find annoying is the VW id3 is still on and it’s  built in the same factory.

[Rene]

kdwolf wrote:

DumfriesDik wrote:

VW ID3 or Skoda Elroq if you want electric. Same stable mates.

I thought there is no Elroq on the scheme this quarter?

There isn’t (but might come back next quarter), and having test driven all three, depending on why you’re looking at the Born, neither of them comes even close to a substitute.

If you’re looking at a car that is somewhat comparable in terms of “driving experience”, the Ford Explorer (also on the MEB platform) comes the closest with a comparatively firm suspension setup (softer than Born, but much less body-roll compared to Elroq/ID3).

We recently test drove the Explorer, and were pleasantly surprised. Yeah, the interior isn’t on the level of BMWs etc, but neither is the Borns, so.. Potatoes, potatoes. If the reason for the Cupra Born is dynamics, unless you want to pay the money VW is asking for the GTE currently, then definitely give the Explorer a test drive.

Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.

[kdwolf]

DumfriesDik wrote:

VW ID3 or Skoda Elroq if you want electric. Same stable mates.

I thought there is no Elroq on the scheme this quarter?

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