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Now it’s been officially announced that if you have an ev you will be charged 3p per mile and if you have a PHEV it will be 1.5p.
ive searched everywhere but there is no details of how they will collect this tax and will motability customers have to pay it?
will it be we’ll have to take our cars to the dealer every year and then pay the extra tax on the miles we’ve done? I just hate the fact things are announced with no details of how it will actually work!
Dows anyone know?
Also if the government wants a level play field why don’t they have a standard price for off peak electric. Here in Northern Ireland our off peak is 18p and we can’t get octopus energy due to the way our electricity is supplied so we are already paying more than mainland ev drivers.
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The governments consultation document can be found here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69282ac1a245b0985f034197/eVED_Consultation.pdf
it says that you estimate your mileage at the start of the year, pay for that and if it’s more at the end of the year you pay the balance. If you’ve overpaid it’s carried over to the next year. Mileage would be checked at service and at MOT.
It specifically says that mobility cars are NOT exempt from this tax as they were not exempt from fuel duty but will continue to be exempt from VED.
It also mentions PHEV and says it would be too complicated to say what mileage was done on electric or petrol so they will charge 1.5p instead!
Note its only a consultation document so some things could change !!The governments consultation document can be found here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69282ac1a245b0985f034197/eVED_Consultation.pdf it says that you estimate your mileage at the start of the year, pay for that and if it’s more at the end of the year you pay the balance. If you’ve overpaid it’s carried over to the next year. Mileage would be checked at service and at MOT. It specifically says that mobility cars are NOT exempt from this tax as they were not exempt from fuel duty but will continue to be exempt from VED. It also mentions PHEV and says it would be too complicated to say what mileage was done on electric or petrol so they will charge 1.5p instead! Note its only a consultation document so some things could change !!
Thus rendering PHEV’s absolutely pointless.
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Thus rendering PHEV’s absolutely pointless.
At 52.95p litre fuel duty, plus 1.5p per mile, I think you have summed it up nicely!
Look at the proliferation of ANPR cameras especially on motorways these will be used to track trace and charge you but look forward to their new found power and thank UBER for the idea of surge pricing. Yes that’s right they will charge different rates to different people at different times of the day and with the power of Ai behind them who know what else the possibilities are endless.
I can see a day when Ai will judge how financially productive you are to society and the most productive will have faster hospital appointments and treatment and the less productive will be categorised according I mean if you are Ai it makes perfect sense to prioritise your most productive assets for the greater good of courseWelcome to the future you will see this happening on anything with price label in supermarkets and petrol stations showing on Screen one coming soon grab your popcorn this is going to be one drip at time drip by drip into a dystopian world. We invented machines to help us and the machines were at our command now within a few hundred years the machines will now be controlling us until they realise they don’t need us anymore
Look at the proliferation of ANPR cameras especially on motorways these will be used to track trace and charge you but look forward to their new found power and thank UBER for the idea of surge pricing. Yes that’s right they will charge different rates to different people at different times of the day and with the power of Ai behind them who know what else the possibilities are endless. I can see a day when Ai will judge how financially productive you are to society and the most productive will have faster hospital appointments and treatment and the less productive will be categorised according I mean if you are Ai it makes perfect sense to prioritise your most productive assets for the greater good of course Welcome to the future you will see this happening on anything with price label in supermarkets and petrol stations showing on Screen one coming soon grab your popcorn this is going to be one drip at time drip by drip into a dystopian world. We invented machines to help us and the machines were at our command now within a few hundred years the machines will now be controlling us until they realise they don’t need us anymore
If Musk, et all, get their dream, then most of humanity will have merged with machines long before then anyway. The next stage of evolution they call it, transhumanism.
A few things on my mind but bearing in mind no one knows how this will be done. But going on the last article I read which thought that maybe every mot a reading would be took.
Well I’ve clocked 13000 miles in my first year of this car and probably about 3000 where done in the republic of Ireland. So that would be £30 a year. I can afford it but I’m not paying it.
I can remember how easy it was to stop the clock on cars. A 2 minute job, then digital Speedos creeped in and I heard that guys where now doing that and it was easy and that was 30 odd years ago. And now l, well if they can steal our cars without keys now, they can turn back our clocks for a modest fee. So how are they going to police this? black boxes for all phev and ev drivers? Hope that everyone’s honest like paying our taxes? This isn’t going to work IMHO.
Des if you’ve done 13,000 miles that would be £390 you would have to pay (13000x £0.03)
Also it says that it doesn’t matter in which country the miles are done! I live in Northern Ireland like you and I’m wondering what motability are going to do insurance wise as they are talking about not letting the cars overseas which I take it means driving out of the uk? If that’s the case does that mean that we won’t be insured if we drive to Ireland? That could open a can of worms never mind what’s gonna happen from 1st January 2026 when some GB spec cars can’t be sold in Northern Ireland due to EU rules as some cars won’t meet EU standards. Fun times ahead. Let’s just hope motability don’t abandon us!
Considering the only EVs with a decent range have either been removed, Scenic/Elroq, or rocketed in price, i.e Enyaq, ID3 long range and ID4 and the Ioniq, I doubt I will be leasing another electric car next time anyway. I have a scenic at the moment that gets around 280-300, but the cars with a range in the low 200s or less when taking into account their real world milage, will be way to low for my needs.
I don’t pay any fuel duty as an EV owner. Fuel duty has been frozen for years: Rishi Sunak sliced duty by 5p. If we want functioning roads (motorways & A roads receive funding from central govt via fuel duty & VED). There’s an attitude that it’s a ‘right’ to drive a car, it’s a privilege. If you drive a car on public roads you should pay your share & I’m happy to pay my way.
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I don’t pay any fuel duty as an EV owner. Fuel duty has been frozen for years: Rishi Sunak sliced duty by 5p. If we want functioning roads (motorways & A roads receive funding from central govt via fuel duty & VED). There’s an attitude that it’s a ‘right’ to drive a car, it’s a privilege. If you drive a car on public roads you should pay your share & I’m happy to pay my way.
I’m inclined to agree. As a PHEV driver myself, I am conscious of the fact that these types of cars are very heavy and therefore cause more damage to our roads than conventional ICE cars. It has been obvious to many of us for years that there would eventually need to be a pence per mile charge for EVs to replace the loss of fuel duty, and it’s equally obvious that, over time, the rate per mile will rise to match what ICE drivers pay now through fuel duty.
What has surprised me is the fact that it’s being introduced prior to most people switching to EVs and announced at a time when EV take up is proving to be a challenge. EVs make a lot of sense if you are a company car driver (due to the much lower benefit in kind taxation), Motability customer (home charger paid for and all the risks of crippling depreciation and high insurance costs removed) or a multi-car household where the EV is one of two or more cars – all assuming that they can be charged at home. However, that still leaves tens of millions of drivers who are yet to be convinced, and the ZEV mandates are now starting to ramp up at a rate quicker than EV sales. The announcement of these charges will only make these targets even harder to achieve.
Even though the 3p per mile levy still leaves EVs a lot cheaper to run (as long as you can charge at home), the optics of this give consumers yet another reason to question whether the transition is right for them.
Then there’s the whole issue of PHEV drivers twigging that they will be hit with a levy (albeit at half the rate) whilst still paying fuel duty. For those of us who charge our PHEV after every use and maximise our EV mileage, this won’t be too bad, but PHEVs were primarily designed as a tax dodge for company car drivers, many of whom never charge them. If their employer pays their fuel costs then this won’t be too bad but, if not, it’s an issue.
As with so many other things in the budget, it’s not joined up thinking.
Tell me if I am wrong, I probably am, compared to a ICE vehicle based on 50 mpg, 3 pence a miles is equivalent to approximately 50 pence a gallon ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Tell me if I am wrong, I probably am, compared to a ICE vehicle based on 50 mpg, 3 pence a miles is equivalent to approximately 50 pence a gallon ?
I’m not sure, but all I know is that they are saying that based on the average mpg of the average ICE car, motorists buying fuel are paying the equivalent of 6p per mile, so EV drivers will still be paying half that (for now – I don’t think there’s any doubt that it will rise to 6p per mile over time).
This is from the Governments fuel duty site. How much is fuel duty.
The fuel duty rate in the UK is 52.95 per litre for petrol and diesel. This rate was cut in 2022 and has now been extended for the 2025-2026 tax year. This rate does not include VAT.
Based on an average of 36 miles per gallon (MPG) a petrol car’s per-mile fuel duty cost currenty reach 7p. However , diesel vehicles, with an average of 43mpg, achieve a cost per mile of 6p. Hybrids, which have an average of around 59mpg, have a per-mile cost of 4p. 26 Nov 2025
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Duty alone is 52.9p, VAT is 22.4p making government income just over 75p per litre. Per galling that’s a touch over £3.41.
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This is from the Governments fuel duty site. How much is fuel duty. The fuel duty rate in the UK is 52.95 per litre for petrol and diesel. This rate was cut in 2022 and has now been extended for the 2025-2026 tax year. This rate does not include VAT. Based on an average of 36 miles per gallon (MPG) a petrol car’s per-mile fuel duty cost currenty reach 7p. However , diesel vehicles, with an average of 43mpg, achieve a cost per mile of 6p. Hybrids, which have an average of around 59mpg, have a per-mile cost of 4p. 26 Nov 2025
So EV driver will be paying 3p per mile plus the cost to charge, as I can charge up at home 7 1/5 pence a kWh, those less fortunate 27/28 pence a kWh and those using public chargers 50/80 pence a kWh
So my understanding in theory based on the 3 pence a mile I would be better of with a hybrid using fossil fuel than a EV, or even a diesel or petrol ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I fully expect road tax for ICE vehicles to follow this pricing method in years to come.
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This is from the Governments fuel duty site. How much is fuel duty. The fuel duty rate in the UK is 52.95 per litre for petrol and diesel. This rate was cut in 2022 and has now been extended for the 2025-2026 tax year. This rate does not include VAT. Based on an average of 36 miles per gallon (MPG) a petrol car’s per-mile fuel duty cost currenty reach 7p. However , diesel vehicles, with an average of 43mpg, achieve a cost per mile of 6p. Hybrids, which have an average of around 59mpg, have a per-mile cost of 4p. 26 Nov 2025
So EV driver will be paying 3p per mile plus the cost to charge, as I can charge up at home 7 1/5 pence a kWh, those less fortunate 27/28 pence a kWh and those using public chargers 50/80 pence a kWh So my understanding in theory based on the 3 pence a mile I would be better of with a hybrid using fossil fuel than a EV, or even a diesel or petrol ?
No @Oscarmax, you’re only looking at the fuel duty cost, not the overall price per litre/gallon.
On my cheap Octopus rate, I pay 6.7p per kWh, standard rate 29p per kWh.
That translates into a cost per mile of between 1.8p and 2.2p depending on the weather/efficiency.
My equivalent cost for my last car, a Volvo XC40 which averaged 34 MPG, was 18p per mile.
I’ve just costed an ICE car doing 45MPG (£1.45/litre) at 14.3p/mile.
So even taking into account the 3p per mile penalty coming in 2028, an EV is far cheaper to run as long as you can charge at home on the cheap rate.
As @Glos Guy says, this 3p per mile will probably escalate afterwards, but who knows what the price of diesel and petrol will be by then?
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So EV driver will be paying 3p per mile plus the cost to charge, as I can charge up at home 7 1/5 pence a kWh, those less fortunate 27/28 pence a kWh and those using public chargers 50/80 pence a kWh So my understanding in theory based on the 3 pence a mile I would be better of with a hybrid using fossil fuel than a EV, or even a diesel or petrol ?
No @Oscarmax, you’re only looking at the fuel duty cost, not the overall price per litre/gallon. On my cheap Octopus rate, I pay 6.7p per kWh, standard rate 29p per kWh. That translates into a cost per mile of between 1.8p and 2.2p depending on the weather/efficiency. My equivalent cost for my last car, a Volvo XC40 which averaged 34 MPG, was 18p per mile. I’ve just costed an ICE car doing 45MPG (£1.45/litre) at 14.3p/mile. So even taking into account the 3p per mile penalty coming in 2028, an EV is far cheaper to run as long as you can charge at home on the cheap rate. As @Glos Guy says, this 3p per mile will probably escalate afterwards, but who knows what the price of diesel and petrol will be by then?
Thanks for pointing that out, my judgement does get overwhelmed and confused at times and struggle to see the bigger picture, I usually let Glosguy or Kezo to clarify things.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
How long will it be 3p a mile what with shrinkfaltion it won’t be long before they reduce the 1760 yards in a mile to a 1500 yard mile so technically they have not altered the rate of tax it’s still 3p a mile we have only reduced the length of the a mile this is sort of nonsense you get from government look at the money we have raised but oh now we have to move the entire road signs to make it all work Oh well
I fully expect road tax for ICE vehicles to follow this pricing method in years to come.
I don’t think that it would make any sense for the government to do that. They’d be removing something that you simply cannot avoid or fiddle (fuel duty) and replacing it with a system that is a major admin burden and would require checking. It makes far more sense to leave fuel duty on petrol and diesel and apply a pence per mile charge to EV and PHEV drivers.
Interesting editorial from Auto Express today on this issue;
I have seen in the press the government has not ruled out self charging hybrids.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Was stuck down at Sidmouth last weekend. Not one ultra fast charging unit around (unless I drive to Exeter). Found Instavolt on my way home – 120kW or so for £0.82 per kW.
Who will be buying the EVs in three years time I wonder?
Insurance – much more expensive
Taxes – starting with 3p who knows what will be in 2029.
Tyres – as the vehicle much heavier, more frequent tyres replacement required.
Second hand out of warranty fixes – take a mortgage.
Until they will remove Mad Ed or kill the Net Zero, the price of electricity for public EV chargers will continue growing.
And yes one can pay Tesla membership or others, but good luck to you to find one in Sidmouth, Honiton and many other country sides, where there is no business insensitive for the big networks to invest into the EV charging public units.
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Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)I thought I would do some calculation we trade 7,000 miles per year, 21,000 mile 3 year lease we are Octopus Go 8.5 pence a kWh. and 3kWh/mile
(a) 7000 miles based on 8.5p kWh £198.34 X 3 years without the 3p tariff =£595
(b) 7000 miles plus 3 pence PAYG £210 + £198.34 X 3 years = £1225.02
(c) 6400 miles charging at home 600 miles public charger at 80 pence a kWh = £1385.02
If I change to a hybrid achieving 60mpg at £6 gallon
(d) 7000 miles £700 X 3 years = £2100
A hybrid will cost me an extra £714.98 over a 3 year lease, however in my case I would lose my Octopus Go tariff and have to change to Octopus Agile which would add an extra £360 per year to my energy bill totalling and extra £1794.98 over a 3 year lease., or £598.33 per year or £46.03 month.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
@Oscarmax As you rightly say, even with the new 3p levy, as long as you can do the vast majority of your charging at home, an EV will still work out cheaper. There are, however, several other issues that need to be taken into account;
Firstly, whilst EVs remain cheaper for those with home chargers, most people don’t do these detailed calculations, and the ‘optics’ of the pence per mile surcharge, and the yet to be announced way in which it will be administered, will inevitably put off many of those who were wavering on the idea of switching. It’s going to be really interesting to see what happens to EV sales versus ZEV mandates in 2026 (they were already behind target in 2025, even before this announcement).
Secondly, the public aren’t as stupid as politicians think, and we all know that the 3p per mile is just the start and will almost inevitably rise over time to at least 6p to match the current fuel duty take from ICE cars.
Next, tens of millions of people can’t charge at home and, at present, EVs remain impractical for them. I don’t see a robust plan to tackle this issue.
There are also plenty of people (we are in this category, as are most of our family and friends) where running costs aren’t necessarily top of the priority list when choosing a car. We have a PHEV and frankly I find it a faff charging it. Yes, it doesn’t take long, but it’s something I’ve never had to do before. I miss the convenience of just one 5 minute fuel stop every 3 or 4 weeks and never having to touch the car other than driving it, and would go back to that in a heartbeat, even though it costs more.
As Motability customers, we are shielded from many of the things putting off even those who can charge at home from switching – high up front costs, crippling depreciation, cost of a home charger installation, high insurance costs etc. Lower running costs alone aren’t enough to alleviate those worries, hence why private buyers remain slow to convert.
With all of these things combined, I’m not surprised that even after several years of pushing them, EVs still only represent 5% (1 in 20) of the cars on our roads and only 1 in 4 of new cars being sold even now (in a market that has dropped well below pre COVID sales levels as a result of the uncertainty). I’ve seen a few surveys quoting something like 30-40% of motorists saying that they have no intention of switching to an EV, so will simply keep their ICE cars longer.
So, in summary, whilst there is no doubting the logic that, for those who can charge at home, EVs can generate significant cost savings even with the new mileage charge, there are loads of other factors that motorists, especially those who can’t access the Motability scheme, will take into consideration before deciding whether or not to switch. It looks like the EU is going to move their 2035 target back to 2040, which would leave the U.K. as an outlier with a ten year earlier target of 2030. I think the smart money is now not on if the UK will move their 2030 date back, but when.
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