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Thought I would start a thread to compare the modern PHEV on the Mobility scheme, it would nice so see how each model compares against another, it would be nice to see if someone would create a thread for Hybrid .
The important thing for all of us is running cost
With our Suzuki Across this month we have covered 720 miles all in EV we have used no petrol we are now seeing due to the colder weather around 52/53 miles on a charger with the heating and aircon, the other day it was very cold we only achieved 46 miles. In August and early September we were seeing 56/58 miles no heating or aircon on.
720 miles total cost £27.24 179.2 kWh
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
If we did not tow a caravan we would have gone the EV route, our next vehicle will be a full EV.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
Currently paying 4.5p for 5 hours with EDF (though thats only til the end of next month.)
I have solar and a battery, so am now considering buying a Zappi and moving to Octopus Intelligent Go for 6 hours at 7.5p, plus 15p export tariff.
I do a lot of miles, but I wish I had a full EV, my next car will be.
I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
Currently paying 4.5p for 5 hours with EDF (though thats only til the end of next month.) I have solar and a battery, so am now considering buying a Zappi and moving to Octopus Intelligent Go for 6 hours at 7.5p, plus 15p export tariff. I do a lot of miles, but I wish I had a full EV, my next car will be.
My export is on the Flux rate slightly better the fixed 15p
02.00 – 05.00 5.87p / 05.00 – 16.00 17.12p / 16.00 – 19.00 28.37p / 19.00 – 02.00 17.12p
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
If we did not tow a caravan we would have gone the EV route, our next vehicle will be a full EV.
@oscarmax do you mind me asking which BEV you would go for? You won’t remember me but three years ago you gave me excellent advice on the Mitsubishi outlander PHEV which has been an excellent car. I think we have/had similar driving needs except for the towing. My beautiful PHEV is now due for replacement and I would like a similar high seating position as number one priority and I’d like to go full EV.@kj35 most EV’s on the scheme at the moment are potentially crossovers, rather than SUV, which is more akin to your Outlander.
The floor in a EV is in most circumstances raised to accomondate the battery, which can impact under thigh support, so I would most certainly recommend an extended test drive in any you try.
Out of the EV’s on the scheme, perhaps the ones most suited are the Hyundai ioniq 5, Kia EV6, Skoda Enyak and Audi Q4 e-tron, BMW iX1. They are also the better EV’s on the scheme and also have a claimed range of 300 miles plus, bar from the iX1.
Rumour has it, the new Renault Scenic electric is joining the scheme early this quarter, which if it does may possibly worth a look.
For me its most likely going to be a PHEV SUV this time round, for security of longer journey’s and cheap running costs locally 🙂
I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
If we did not tow a caravan we would have gone the EV route, our next vehicle will be a full EV.
@oscarmax do you mind me asking which BEV you would go for? You won’t remember me but three years ago you gave me excellent advice on the Mitsubishi outlander PHEV which has been an excellent car. I think we have/had similar driving needs except for the towing. My beautiful PHEV is now due for replacement and I would like a similar high seating position as number one priority and I’d like to go full EV.
If I was to go for a full EV it would have to be a Hyundia Kona or Kia Niro, but to be honest I am with Kezo on this another SUV PHEV, we have a Suzuki Across PHEV (rebadged RAV4 PHEV) in the summer 56 miles + and in the winter 40/46 miles in EV mode use the ICE unit seeing 50 + mpg and 35 + towing a 1500kg caravan.
If you liked the Outlander PHEV you will love the Suzuki Across not quite as efficient in EV as the Hyundia/Kia but better than the majority of EV on the market.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Thank you @kezo and @oscarmax. I’ll look at those. I had been considering a Honda e ny1 or an id4 but number one priority has to be that any car doesn’t hurt me / cause more damage then second is it has to fit Mr KJ35 who is 6ft7 and does a lot of running about for me so I think I’m going to struggle with the current BEVs. The Mitsubishi has given me a freedom I’ve not had for a while, I’m not in a rush to replace it, I will for sure look at that Suzuki. It’s such an important decision and exhausting going around showrooms ( as we know) but such a fantastic benefit in amongst all this ‘stuff’ we cope with.
Thank you @kezo and @oscarmax. I’ll look at those. I had been considering a Honda e ny1 or an id4 but number one priority has to be that any car doesn’t hurt me / cause more damage then second is it has to fit Mr KJ35 who is 6ft7 and does a lot of running about for me so I think I’m going to struggle with the current BEVs. The Mitsubishi has given me a freedom I’ve not had for a while, I’m not in a rush to replace it, I will for sure look at that Suzuki. It’s such an important decision and exhausting going around showrooms ( as we know) but such a fantastic benefit in amongst all this ‘stuff’ we cope with.
The Enyak sits on the same MEB platform as the ID4 as they fall under the VW group, but the Enyak’s better equiped and uses nicer materials.
Ive read on here the eny1 can’t have adaptions fitted, if thats important to you.
@Oscarmax you shocked me mate looking at a dinky toy after having a Tonka toy ?Thank you @kezo and @oscarmax. I’ll look at those. I had been considering a Honda e ny1 or an id4 but number one priority has to be that any car doesn’t hurt me / cause more damage then second is it has to fit Mr KJ35 who is 6ft7 and does a lot of running about for me so I think I’m going to struggle with the current BEVs. The Mitsubishi has given me a freedom I’ve not had for a while, I’m not in a rush to replace it, I will for sure look at that Suzuki. It’s such an important decision and exhausting going around showrooms ( as we know) but such a fantastic benefit in amongst all this ‘stuff’ we cope with.
The Enyak sits on the same MEB platform as the ID4 as they fall under the VW group, but the Enyak’s better equiped and uses nicer materials. Ive read on here the eny1 can’t have adaptions fitted, if thats important to you. @Oscarmax you shocked me mate looking at a dinky toy after having a Tonka toy
Only if I went for a full EV, there is only 2 of us to date since we lost our two little miniature schnauzers in 2019 we haven’t used the rear seat in any of our car plus we only need a large vehicle because we tow a caravan.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
I am charging up for free again in the early hours of the morning
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
No we are not giving up caravanning just yet, I was just answering KJ35 question as regards EV, I am not ready for an EV just yet, they need to improve the infrastructure plus the cost of EV charging is mind blowing expensive. Energy price are due to come down, unfortunately I cannot foresee the EV companies taking this onboard.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
My export is on the Flux rate slightly better the fixed 15p 02.00 – 05.00 5.87p / 05.00 – 16.00 17.12p / 16.00 – 19.00 28.37p / 19.00 – 02.00 17.12pThe export probably isnt the decider for me, its nice, its the import I am mostly bothered about, summer may alter that view, but being able to fill my car, and solar battery cheap is a big plus. I can mostly ignore the grid bar a few notable exceptions through the rest of the day.A full EV will be a god send for me, I do so many miles.We are approximately 6 months into our Suzuki Across lease to date 3870 miles our cost per mile 0.057 pence
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Stay or leave ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
We are approximately 6 months into our Suzuki Across lease to date 3870 miles our cost per mile 0.057 pence
Presumably that’s worked out using just the cost of petrol? Are you able to always charge for free?
I’ve no doubt that PHEVs and EVs are cheaper to run, but to make a fair comparison with a petrol car people must include the total cost to charge plus factor in any additional AP over the petrol equivalent, otherwise the figures and comparisons are meaningless.
We are approximately 6 months into our Suzuki Across lease to date 3870 miles our cost per mile 0.057 pence
Presumably that’s worked out using just the cost of petrol? Are you able to always charge for free? I’ve no doubt that PHEVs and EVs are cheaper to run, but to make a fair comparison with a petrol car people must include the total cost to charge plus factor in any additional AP over the petrol equivalent, otherwise the figures and comparisons are meaningless.
As usual you have assumed wrong this the total running cost petrol and electricity, charge for free ?, I should point out hat includes towing a 1500kg caravan, why are you always so negative.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
We are approximately 6 months into our Suzuki Across lease to date 3870 miles our cost per mile 0.057 pence
Presumably that’s worked out using just the cost of petrol? Are you able to always charge for free? I’ve no doubt that PHEVs and EVs are cheaper to run, but to make a fair comparison with a petrol car people must include the total cost to charge plus factor in any additional AP over the petrol equivalent, otherwise the figures and comparisons are meaningless.
As usual you have assumed wrong this the total running cost petrol and electricity, charge for free ?, I should point out hat includes towing a 1500kg caravan, why are you always so negative.
You are saying that your total costs are 0.057 pence per mile. That means one twentieth of a penny per mile. So 10 miles is costing you just over half a penny and 100 miles is costing you 5.7 pence, total. Rather than assume I am being negative you could just confirm that’s correct?
I also stand by the point that to get a true comparison people cannot conveniently ignore the higher APs. If additional to a petrol car, they need to be included in running costs.
We are approximately 6 months into our Suzuki Across lease to date 3870 miles our cost per mile 0.057 pence
Presumably that’s worked out using just the cost of petrol? Are you able to always charge for free? I’ve no doubt that PHEVs and EVs are cheaper to run, but to make a fair comparison with a petrol car people must include the total cost to charge plus factor in any additional AP over the petrol equivalent, otherwise the figures and comparisons are meaningless.
As usual you have assumed wrong this the total running cost petrol and electricity, charge for free ?, I should point out hat includes towing a 1500kg caravan, why are you always so negative.
You are saying that your total costs are 0.057 pence per mile. That means one twentieth of a penny per mile. So 10 miles is costing you just over half a penny and 100 miles is costing you 5.7 pence, total. Rather than assume I am being negative you could just confirm that’s correct? I also stand by the point that to get a true comparison people cannot conveniently ignore the higher APs. If additional to a petrol car, they need to be included in running costs.
Opps that should read read £0.057 per miles 100 miles costing, but you are still negative
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Stay or leave ?
I’m considering leaving the scheme. I wouldn’t be without a car as I own an 18 plate 420d we could make do with although not ideal for daughter really but, would look at trading in for a SUV.
I was only considering electric to save money locally, given I have my own means of transport for longer journey’s if needed i.e going my parents.
I’m disheartened, with the choice on the scheme and have been for a while – just don’t know what to do.
You are saying that your total costs are 0.057 pence per mile. That means one twentieth of a penny per mile.
0.o57 pence in my book is 5.7 pence?
Same as £0.057p
Stay or leave ?
I’m considering leaving the scheme. I wouldn’t be without a car as I own an 18 plate 420d we could make do with although not ideal for daughter really but, would look at trading in for a SUV. I was only considering electric to save money locally, given I have my own means of transport for longer journey’s if needed i.e going my parents. I’m disheartened, with the choice on the scheme and have been for a while – just don’t know what to do.
That would be a shame, unfortunately EV’s do not suit everyone’s needs, the infrastructure needs to be sorted and EV charging point the costs are just too high.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
That would be a shame, unfortunately EV’s do not suit everyone’s needs, the infrastructure needs to be sorted and EV charging point the costs are just too high.
The rout I take and where I’d need to charge (A49 Leominster-Shewsbury) theres only a couple 100kW chargers and if they are faulty I’m walking. The other route would be divert 60 odd miles M4, M5, M6, A500, which seems pointless and we all know what the M5, 6 is like at Birmingham or I could go via the A34 and drop into your to charge lol.
See what happens on the day 🙂
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