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Thought I would start a thread to compare the modern PHEV on the Mobility scheme, it would nice so see how each model compares against another, it would be nice to see if someone would create a thread for Hybrid .
The important thing for all of us is running cost
With our Suzuki Across this month we have covered 720 miles all in EV we have used no petrol we are now seeing due to the colder weather around 52/53 miles on a charger with the heating and aircon, the other day it was very cold we only achieved 46 miles. In August and early September we were seeing 56/58 miles no heating or aircon on.
720 miles total cost £27.24 179.2 kWh
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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So, I contacted peugeot about the suggested OTA update to fix the range issue and after about 20 minutes and being transferred here and there they finally said there was no such update and we should only expect to get 15-20 miles out of the battery (37 mile electric range published).
Will I had the same attitude problem when Mitsubishi left the UK leaving MG as caretakers they could not be less interested.
Shocking Will – have you tried visiting a dealer or contacting Motability with the info in the link I provided and your not happy about it.
Hi kezo, no I haven’t been down in person. I called my local dealership, was put through to a central service team, and then back to the dealership (after being cut off!). Interestingly, the local dealership wanted to know if I was a motability driver before putting me through to their service dept. I have no idea why and they wouldn’t say when I asked them, it was just a simple general query…
They did say I could take it in for an investigation but, given how awful that dealership have been, I would have to summon up the motivation 🙁
Hi kezo, no I haven’t been down in person. I called my local dealership, was put through to a central service team, and then back to the dealership (after being cut off!). Interestingly, the local dealership wanted to know if I was a motability driver before putting me through to their service dept. I have no idea why and they wouldn’t say when I asked them, it was just a simple general query… They did say I could take it in for an investigation but, given how awful that dealership have been, I would have to summon up the motivation
Have you another dealer close by?
Yes, a bit further out. To be honest this has dented my view re electric cars. I was all for it at first, with us going for a PHEV as a stepping stone to let us get the charging figured out etc. (home charging tricky but doable). Most of our week-to-week driving is low mileage, but we periodically drive ~150 miles to visit relatives and it sounds like we would struggle to do this on a single charge in an full EV.
150 miles is easily doable in new full EV’s, my usual longest run is about 125 miles maybe 6-9 times a year, most local round trips are well under 15 with a few 20-30 miles. I’ve ordered a Skoda Enyaq, max (claimed) range for the 4 wheel drive is 328 miles, even in Winter at 220-24 miles it’s more than enough for a 150 mile round trip.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Yes, a bit further out. To be honest this has dented my view re electric cars. I was all for it at first, with us going for a PHEV as a stepping stone to let us get the charging figured out etc. (home charging tricky but doable). Most of our week-to-week driving is low mileage, but we periodically drive ~150 miles to visit relatives and it sounds like we would struggle to do this on a single charge in an full EV.
Give the other dealer a call or request them have a look at it and provide a loan car. Any issues speak with MB.
Some EV’s on the scheme will get you 150 miles even in winter but, if its a 300 mile round journey you may struggle without charging on your return!
I do frequent journeys and currently weighing up EV’s but, truth be told I’m more for some kind of hybrid approach, probably PHEV as Oscarmax.
Hi Kezo, just an update (HNY BTW!), over the Xmas holls the car received an OTA update to ‘improve performance’ (my rough translation from the French) and it has improved the electric-only range a bit. Obviously it varies, but I would say it’s gone from 15-20 miles to maybe 20-25 miles.
Hi Kezo, just an update (HNY BTW!), over the Xmas holls the car received an OTA update to ‘improve performance’ (my rough translation from the French) and it has improved the electric-only range a bit. Obviously it varies, but I would say it’s gone from 15-20 miles to maybe 20-25 miles.
Better. Hopefully that will increase when the warmer weather comes 🙂
In the winter using the heating 10 to 15 mile EV is more than acceptable.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Had my Phev for 2 months now, charging it every other night and this is my last months useage.
Previous Mini Cooper S was costing upto £40 per WEEK!
@Noel Do you know what the total cost per mile is (electric plus petrol combined), and what car is it that you have? Thanks.
Renault Captur Engineered 10.3kw 160bhp
Total since new: 1200 miles
Fuel £40 ( have put in total of £60 but still have 1/2 tank left )
Electric Octoplus Go 45 nights charge 8.5kwh x 9p so about £35 (batteries are never fully emptied)
So roughly £75 to do 1200 miles
AP was £295 so they paid me £455 New Car Bonus.
Last car was Mini Countryman Cooper S averaging 35mpg so would have cost £230.
Think my rough maths are correct , happy to be corrected with a better way of working it out.
Renault Captur Engineered 10.3kw 160bhp Total since new: 1200 miles Fuel £40 ( have put in total of £60 but still have 1/2 tank left ) Electric Octoplus Go 45 nights charge 8.5kwh x 9p so about £35 (batteries are never fully emptied) So roughly £75 to do 1200 miles AP was £295 so they paid me £455 New Car Bonus. Last car was Mini Countryman Cooper S averaging 35mpg so would have cost £230. Think my rough maths are correct , happy to be corrected with a better way of working it out.
Those are some excellent figure based on fuel @ £1.40 litre and electric as per Octopus Go rate your equivalent average is 101.87 mpg 0r 5.8p a mile.
Your Cooper S 18p per mile
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Thanks @Oscarmax I can understand that ?
Thanks @Oscarmax I can understand that
The 330e, will have excellent running costs, though the hefty price required will outweigh these. Shame BMW dnt include any packs!
Thanks @Oscarmax I can understand that
The 330e, will have excellent running costs, though the hefty price required will outweigh these. Shame BMW dnt include any packs!
From what I have read it has a very efficient battery management and recovery system, it not all about battery sizes, I know the AP a bit steep but it is one hell of a drivers car, it would suit you.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Thanks @Oscarmax I can understand that
The 330e, will have excellent running costs, though the hefty price required will outweigh these. Shame BMW dnt include any packs!
From what I have read it has a very efficient battery management and recovery system, it not all about battery sizes, I know the AP a bit steep but it is one hell of a drivers car, it would suit you.
Yes I’ve no doubt it would be sensational to drive, but a quick sit in a 3 Series saloon last week makes me think it’s just going to be far too low down. Need to look properly when my wife is with me as it’s got to be right for her.
Thanks @Oscarmax I can understand that
The 330e, will have excellent running costs, though the hefty price required will outweigh these. Shame BMW dnt include any packs!
From what I have read it has a very efficient battery management and recovery system, it not all about battery sizes, I know the AP a bit steep but it is one hell of a drivers car, it would suit you.
By the tme you have taken into account the optional packs ontop of the AP, your loking at £12k+!
I thought £6k on a car I would never own was alot!
Hi mate, I’m starting to look at cars again. The Across is still on my list, ideally I would like bult in nav and would value any advice on the Kia Sportage GT line s PHEV or any others 🙂
@Oscarmax Hi mate, I’m starting to look at cars again. The Across is still on my list, ideally I would like bult in nav and would value any advice on the Kia Sportage GT line s PHEV or any others
The only first hand experience I have is of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and our current Suzuki Across, I never actually test drove any other cars. As regards no built in satnav apparently on the Toyota site they say the satnav is not that good, we just use our iPhone to the Suzuki wireless Carplay.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Thanks mate!
Admittedly the Kia is weird in that it starts the engine when you require heat, although to closer to a proper AWD from what I’ve read,
Like the Across no one has the Kia PHEV to test drive either.
Thanks mate! Admittedly the Kia is weird in that it starts the engine when you require heat, although to closer to a proper AWD from what I’ve read, Like the Across no one has the Kia PHEV to test drive either.
Did not know that, I have heard is does not have a charge mode, totally reliant on regeneration or plug in
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Running a PHEV takes some getting used to, there is no reverseve gear and no first gear, the car always starts and drives off in electric, you can’t get in and start the engine it’s always electric.
many people have stated the renault dog box is wierd, but with mine being the PHEV , I have never experienced the delay as the electric motor is always there to boost acceleration.
With regard to the Sat Nav it has Google built in, which combines with the Sat Nav to go into E-save mode to judge the journey to better use the battery and save and deploy the battery within the journey.
My costs are about a Third of what my previous petrol car was with no loss of engagement in driving.
Running a PHEV takes some getting used to, there is no reverseve gear and no first gear, the car always starts and drives off in electric, you can’t get in and start the engine it’s always electric. many people have stated the renault dog box is wierd, but with mine being the PHEV , I have never experienced the delay as the electric motor is always there to boost acceleration. With regard to the Sat Nav it has Google built in, which combines with the Sat Nav to go into E-save mode to judge the journey to better use the battery and save and deploy the battery within the journey. My costs are about a Third of what my previous petrol car was with no loss of engagement in driving.
I take it Noel you are pleased, are you on an EV tariff
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
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