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Hi folks,
Completed my order today and now waiting on Motability and the garage. Are Motability able to approve the application on a weekend? Wondering how lockdown might affect collection if it kicks in before it’s ready.
Hi folks, Completed my order today and now waiting on Motability and the garage. Are Motability able to approve the application on a weekend? Wondering how lockdown might affect collection if it kicks in before it’s ready.
I cannot post authentication, but this info is from a reliable Motability source:
In light of the speculation that a second national lockdown maybe imminent our priority is for as many of our customers to be mobile before such restrictions come into effect.
To help give you the flexibility to support your customers both new and renewing, we will not be applying Confirmed Delivery Date (CDD) adjustments from 31 Oct.
You may see a CDD adjustment on your dashboard, but these will be reversed for handovers taking place from 31 Oct until a lockdown comes into force
Which in plain English means the ‘4 day rule’ can be over-ruled, particularly if the vehicle is in stock. Hence it means if your dealer can do his/her bits (pdi etc) then the dealership will not be penalised for doing an early handover.
Will post offices be open in the 4 week lockdown ?
Mike,
Just spoken on the phone to a friend who is the postmaster at the village Post Office a few miles away.
All sub-post offices (and he believes main ‘crown’ branches in towns/cities as well) have been told that it is to be business as usual, with social distancing etc to be enforced, during the forthcoming lock-down.
Dave
Big Dave Thankyou so much my post office in the village just 2 miles away is lovely and I have some things on eBay for sale that end in a week so I can po#t them in the post office
@BigDave Thanks! I’ve had confirmation for pick-up on Wednesday, do you think it’s worth asking for a sooner date just in-case issues arise on the day?
@BigDave Thanks! I’ve had confirmation for pick-up on Wednesday, do you think it’s worth asking for a sooner date just in-case issues arise on the day?
You can ask them. It will be either yes or no. It really depends how quickly they can do the pdi and other bits that need doing. Hopefully you will at least get it before lockdown starts.
The government says that, even with the start of lockdown number two, the original shielding for those classified as Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (CEV) is not needed. The government guidance document says: “Since the introduction of shielding, many new measures have been introduced in our communities, including the rule of 6, COVID-secure workplaces, and the widespread use of face coverings, all of which have reduced the need for such restrictive shielding advice.”
Well, with Boris admitting that the infection rate and number of deaths is likely to be double that of the previous peak, it seems that the “new measures” etc. ain’t working. Being a CEV household, we will continue to do shielding. Too risky – TWICE as risky as before – not to do so.
How much longer will Boris go on spouting incompetent, contradictory and useless nonsense: “Our measures are working OK so you don’t need to shield, oh, the pandemic’s going to be twice as bad by the way, so you still don’t need to shield.”
Have his algorithms mutated again?
@tharg He’s addressing the House at 3.30, probably 3.45 as he can’t leave that foie gras, so not long to wait for the next instalment of complete ‘follow (ignore) the science’ drivel.
@wmcforum “ignore the science drivel” perfectly apt description. Can’t decide whether he really IS that stupid or merely that arrogant that he thinks WE are that stupid!
Psychopaths and narcissists surround Johnson. He believes what they believe, I’m afraid.
Leaves no room for empathy or common sense.
Having ranted in despair at the bungling incompetence in the early pages of this thread back in March, not much has changed, sadly. The countries with proactive leaders that acted swiftly to counter the threat are now thriving while we are subjected to fiscal disaster, failed track and trace that’s cost £12 billion and gross reactive ineptitude. Watched the All blacks play to a full house of happy cheering Auckland fans, Vietnam recorded no cases and Asian economies are generally thriving. Despite being a Tory voter(yes I know!) since the Pompous Ted Heath, I couldn’t bring myself to vote for bungling, disingenuous boris. We simply deserve better.
A smacked hand for Johnson, Hancock and the SAGE gang:
OSR Statement regarding transparency of data related to COVID-19
Well, how long do you think it will be before the government suddenly discovers that the Office for Statistics Regulation is a waste of its funding? No doubt ministers thought it was doing a good job but then its algorithm mutated and it started telling the truth about stuff. Government department? Not telling porkies? Displaying signs of competence? This’ll never do. Disband it immediately. Send all staff to the sheep-counting promulgation initiative in the Falklands.
Indeed and about time.. for instance they have made a comparsion alot between case in the 1st peak and in the second wave and that they have risen alot, although they do not divide either figures per 100k by the amount of test done at that time and so give’s you an inaccurate picture of the actual scale of the current cases in comparison to before. more test equals more cases detected but deaths are not as high. pretty much the same as crime if they target certain crimes they detect more so reported cases rise and it would appear crime level have risen but they have not just more have been recorded.
Then there is hospital admissions which does not include data for those discharged and thus once again it seems as if it the data is saying the amount of people taking up beds due to covid in hospitals is really high when that may not be the case, as admissions don’t mean taking up a bed on a ward anymore..
So imo it gives an untrue picture and paints it as worse than it really is.. covid was it the 14th highest killer last week but we in lockdown because of it again.
Although my kids still have to go to school and now the school have said parents must now wear face coverings in the playground outside to drop off and collect kids now. Which my partner does. but still when was it the case masks must be worn out side. Not one case has been detected at the school since it opened in sept. so it make no sence on many levels. considering the kids themselves do not wear masks inside the school and obviously mix with other kids and then with those that collect / drop them off.. but it is in responce to the project fear the one where the nhs is overrun every year because capacity has been cut and bed numbers reduced. this 2nd wave was planned way back when they first metioned it as they have the data that says year on year the nhs is full when the season of winter comes around.
save the nhs ain’t it the other way round the nhs is to save us not us save it and maybe they should spand more money onfixing the seasonal problems instead of using it as a reason to close down the econony.
One thing which most people seems to have wrong is the status of those classified as Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (CEV) by the government. Boris touched on the issue is a speech or two; his “thoughts” were as ambiguous and contradictory as they always are. However, the impression received by most people seems to be that CEVs should go out to work and they have no need to self-isolate and/or do the Shielding thing. I am part of a CEV household: my wife and I are both comfortably past 70 years old. She is a govt classified CEV (chronic asthma needing oral steroids) and two weeks ago was rushed to hospital for an emergency major stomach operation. She is still recovering, cannot eat properly and weighs in at 6stone. If she gets the virus, she dies. Simple as that. She’s had pneumonia twice in last three years.
Boris did somewhere in his blather say that there may be some who need to self-isolate. But people didn’t hear that. They hear “shielding” alongside Clinically Vulnerable and think we are making a fuss about nothing. Boris says they can work. Even supermarkets are withdrawing or relaxing their helpful treatment for CEVs: “Boris says they’re well enough to go out to work so they can get off their arses and come into our shops.” It is now very difficult to get deliveries. I dare not go into a supermarket, or any shop for that matter. Just too dangerous.
So that is why we have self-isolated and shielded since March and why we will continue to do so until there is a genuine reduction in the number of cases and deaths and the risk to our lives from Covid.
Maybe you need to shield every winter and only comeout in the summer when uv levels are higher and seasonal bugs ain’t about.
My mum is 70 in march and also she has a lung condition and needs an op but they won’t do it, she gotta go for another scan in a few weeks and she has not seen her grankids this year at all.. we try not to visit when we got a cold etc as it could make her very ill and back in jan i was very ill with some virus which now could of been covid as the mrs and the youngest had a bad cough and had to go to the docs after it didn’t go away. it was late feb till we was all feeling any better and we was going to visit her at easter but lockdown came.
I do think she won’t get to see them again in the flesh.
So tharg i do get it, but also in 2017 my 16 year old son died suddenly, in his room at home during the day where you would think he’d be safe.. In covid’s eyes i’d be not letting my other 2 kids go to their rooms at all or out of our sights just incase they drop down dead. I think for eveyone it’s different but it has given me a different view of how life is and how we are not in control and cannot stop stuff happening. death happens to us all at some point and i am not scared as i know there was nothing anyone could of done to save my son.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54831334
The government has been criticised by the official statistics watchdog for the way it presented data to justify England’s second lockdown.
The UK Statistics Authority highlighted the use of modelling at Saturday’s TV briefing showing the possible death toll from Covid this winter.
It said there needed to be more transparency about data and how predictions were being made.
The projections were out of date and over-estimated deaths, it has emerged.
A forecast made by Public Health England and Cambridge University said the country could soon be seeing more than 4,000 deaths a day.
The projection was made weeks ago and had forecast there would be 1,000 deaths a day by the end of October when the average was actually four times less than that – a fact that was known at the time of Saturday’s TV briefing.
What is more, the model had already been updated to predict a lower estimate, but this was not used in the briefing fronted by chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance and chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty, alongside Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
It is understood the graph was used by the two senior advisers in meetings last week where the decision to impose a nationwide lockdown in England was made.
The pair were grilled about it by MPs on Tuesday and Sir Patrick apologised for any confusion caused.
‘Full transparency’
Sir David Norgrove , chair of the UK Statistics Authority, said: “I recognise the pressures faced by all those working on decisions related to coronavirus.
“But full transparency of data used to inform decisions is vital to public understanding and public confidence.”
The use of the data has also drawn criticism from former prime minister Theresa May, who abstained from the lockdown vote in parliament on Wednesday. The vote saw MPs agree to the four-week restrictions in England.
Sir David Spiegelhalter, one of the most respected statisticians in the country, said the whole saga had been “really unfortunate”.
But he said the situation with Covid was sufficient to warrant “radical action” – but it was not for him to say what precise measures were needed and the decisions to be taken must look at the bigger picture.As you can see from this latest graph the curve is not the same as in the 1st peak or the prediction used for the lockdown and case are dropping in araea that was put into tier 2 restrictions but no time was given to see the results.. like in liverpool.
@rox sincere sympathies for loss of your son. Dreadful. I take your point about how it has shaped your feelings.
Isolate for winter? I’d like to hibernate! Moreover, it seems that government advice for Clinically Extremely Vulnerable has “mutated”. Boris said that CEVs should go out to work, go in shops etc. This was u-turned yesterday and now we are told we should not go out to work etc. Would like to think this about-turn happened because someone looked at the figures, rising infections, death rates etc., and decided to increase our survival chances with this measure. However, suspect that real reason for the move is to make sure that Boris and/or his government do not get the blame when old crumblies start dropping like flies.
The government advice detailing this has not, as far as I can see, been broadcast on national news. Tucked away in obscure corner of Red Button text news, if you can hunt it down. Even if it WAS in national news, it wouldn’t affect supermarket policy on deliveries nor the public opinion that we are making a fuss about nothing.
I would like to think this a start of a shift to the viewpoint that we should be protecting the vulnerable and easing restrictions on everyone else. If we threw the money currently being lost to the economy on funding those at greatest risk, it would make more sense to me.
‘As you can see from this latest graph the curve is not the same as in the 1st peak’
Perhaps the second curve is exactly the same as the first, if you were to draw a line from January to the first wave peak. The only difference is testing. So we are now in the same point as we were in February, we have a long way to go, sadly.
There was zero case’s in feb according to the offical figures, so no we are not in the same place.
I did here a view that the pandemic was over in july as just like flu the rona went away and if it is so highly and more infective than flu like they say more people would get it quicker and the fact that antibodies are dropping off leads one to believe it is no longer around not that you can catch it again but that is has disappeared and the body no longer needs to make antibodies. The pcr test can detect a single molecule in a pool of water but also something similar to it would give a postive result (a false postive) so it could not be covid sars 2 but another covid or a cold that gives a positive. That was according to the former Chief Science Officer for the pharmaceutical giant Pfizer says “there is no science to suggest a second wave should happen.” The “Big Pharma” insider asserts that false positive results from inherently unreliable COVID tests are being used to manufacture a “second wave” based on “new cases.”
Dr. Mike Yeadon, a former Vice President and Chief Science Officer for Pfizer for 16 years, says that half or even “almost all” of tests for COVID are false positives. Dr. Yeadon also argues that the threshold for herd immunity may be much lower than previously thought, and may have been reached in many countries already.
Survival Rate of COVID Now Estimated to be 99.8%, Similar to Flu, Prior T-Cell Immunity
The survival rate of COVID-19 has been upgraded since May to 99.8% of infections. This comes close to ordinary flu, the survival rate of which is 99.9%. Although COVID can have serious after-effects, so can flu or any respiratory illness. The present survival rate is far higher than initial grim guesses in March and April, cited by Dr. Anthony Fauci, of 94%, or 20 to 30 times deadlier. The Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) value accepted by Yeadon et al in the paper is .26%. The survival rate of a disease is 100% minus the IFR.
Dr. Yeadon pointed out that the “novel” COVID-19 contagion is novel only in the sense that it is a new type of coronavirus. But, he said, there are presently four strains which circulate freely throughout the population, most often linked to the common cold.
There was zero case’s in feb according to the offical figures, so no we are not in the same place.
Is it not the case that there were zero cases in February because there were zero tests carried out?
If there were 500,000 tests carried out a day in February, the figures would be similar to as they are today.
No one will know exactly and you cannot use data from unknown cases, unless you are the goverment or there advisors i guess. but it would mean alot more cases, but only the same amount of deaths as they do not change in that period. So it would mean a lower overall death rate of those that had it, if it was the case imo anyway.. right now we seeing lots of cases and lower death rates than then so one would/ could assume more case was around back then..
There hundreds of versions of what we know as the common cold and covid 19 is one and if that is the case if you had one of the others it may give a postive test as we maybe are seeing right now the curve is very different imo from before and maybe there are alot of false positives of other very simalar infections which always appear at this time of year..
So imo the 2nd wave was planned and mention as they know this wave would come along as it does every year.. but is it a second wave of covid or just being used to suggest there is one. umm i dunno.. they have that data and know it happens every year and the nhs is overrun on the brink every flu season… The flu deaths are very low 297 or somthing if i remember correctly. Yes there the flu jab but it’s not for all versions of the flu.. where have all the yearly flu deaths gone.
i do not by the flu has virtually been eradicated. Maybe it’s being counted as covid. it’s also whats going on everywhere else everyone seems to be showing the same graphs and using traffic light systems etc.. closing stuff down again all at the same time.. why because it is that time of year in the northern hemisphere.
Those at risk like every year should take precautions thats for sure.. but all this lockdown and restrictions is for something else as the data don’t lie, unless you withold some of it to prove your figures..
guess time will tell how it all pans out and why wef / reset who knows but i do know the imf said any loans / funds need to push an green agenda and all the other stuff that’s being put in place because of covid pretty much like they died with covid not of covid.. not gonna go into all that but it is what they have said..
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