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In reply to: Best tow capacity
We tow with a Suzuki Across PHEV excellent tow car but like the RAV4 Ap just shy of £7000
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
Agree. Grappling with charging cables on a winter’s evening when transitioning to the front door with rollator is already a challenge enough. A&E beacons followed by months in care.
I have been very happy with an Allspace SEL, now in lease extension and previous Touran. I was very disappointed to see removal and/or steep price increases of Q2. No X trail Tenka- I need a powered tailgate – no Subaru, crazy prices on CRV, RAV4 etc. I don’t want a politically expedient bribe for an inappropriate BEV, Motability. Subsidies, company tax write offs and huge BIK incentives might keep the deluded eco zealot dream alive, but for the disabled the current distortions in the scheme are most unwelcome. The Allspace, built in Mexico, is on run out to be replaced by all new model soon. The top trim levels now gone, Life only with a£800 increase. No doubt paving the way for mega priced new Tiguan and Skoda Kodiaq version. Touran SEL was an excellent car. Now £3999 and sunroof an extra. Well over £5k for 3 years, yet an iD4 is free and probably needs to be.
In reply to: Quarter 2 1st April 2024 – News and updates
I can now see April prices, but still at 894 cars, so it’s obviously still updating.
If correct, the 4 cars currently on my shortlist all remain. The iX1 has gone up £250, the Hyundai Tucson PHEV Ultimate is down £900, the Mazda Cx-5 is unchanged, as is the Mazda CX-60, although the convenience pack bundled with the Takumi spec is now a cost extra.
If that’s it, I’m very disappointed that the BMW X1 has not appeared. I was doubtful that the excellent petrol version would, but thought that the PHEV might (especially as the superb, but unsuitable for us, 330e Touring appeared last quarter – now gone, just leaving the even less practical saloon).
Will take a look at the Toyota RAV4. Any other non-EV additions in the SUV category or is this quarter yet another damp squib?
In reply to: PHEV running cost
I’m on Octopus Go 9p per kwh between 00:30 and 04:30 , plug it in and it’s set for delayed charge to start at 00:31 from an outdoor 3 pin socket, takes less than the 4 hours to fully charge. I’m very impressed with it, but with our low mileage i should have went full EV.
If we did not tow a caravan we would have gone the EV route, our next vehicle will be a full EV.
@oscarmax do you mind me asking which BEV you would go for? You won’t remember me but three years ago you gave me excellent advice on the Mitsubishi outlander PHEV which has been an excellent car. I think we have/had similar driving needs except for the towing. My beautiful PHEV is now due for replacement and I would like a similar high seating position as number one priority and I’d like to go full EV.
If I was to go for a full EV it would have to be a Hyundia Kona or Kia Niro, but to be honest I am with Kezo on this another SUV PHEV, we have a Suzuki Across PHEV (rebadged RAV4 PHEV) in the summer 56 miles + and in the winter 40/46 miles in EV mode use the ICE unit seeing 50 + mpg and 35 + towing a 1500kg caravan.
If you liked the Outlander PHEV you will love the Suzuki Across not quite as efficient in EV as the Hyundia/Kia but better than the majority of EV on the market.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
In reply to: Help me find a car
Can I add Suzuki Across PHEV (a rebadged Toyota RAV4 PHEV) AP a bit high at £5299 especially when compared to some of the excellent EV now on the scheme.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
On 2021 models user manual page p362 LTA setting can be adjusted and/or turned off. On my vehicle the dealer had pre-set my settings, they were aware of my disability condition to my left side plus we towed a caravan, our dealership were excellent. Lane Centre OFF Alert Option Vibration Through Steering Wheel Sensitivity Medium Sway Warning On Medium
mine was the 2022 model. I collected it in June 22. As with you the dealer set it all up. I had no problems at all with it until Dec 22 when the accident happened. I had no idea it could be switched off by me, but I would never have switched it off anyway. I’m devastated to lose the car and not be able to replace it with another rav4. I’m currently using a loan Qashqai but probably getting a Ford Kuga PHEV so I can have a a hoist for my scooter. thank you for the responses so far, I’ve found some helpful comments, especially the link.
I am with Kezo, I initially ordered a Kuga ST X Edition, both the FHEV and PHEV have an engine problem to date Ford do not have a fix, it has been both highlighted on the Kuga and this forum, I cancelled. As you are in the market for a quality reliable PHEV look at the Mazda CX-60, it has all the safety features you require and more, I would suggest the Suzuki Across which is a rebadged Toyota RAV4 PHEV, the Across appears to be more economical the the CX-60, however after your experience and loss of confidence with the Toyota RAV4 I would probably give that a miss. If I can give an opinion your accident, it is just that an unfortunate accident, I wish you luck with your case.
I can order one straight away. Motability and RSA have been fantastic and really supportive. They are funding my motoring defence legal team.
On 2021 models user manual page p362 LTA setting can be adjusted and/or turned off. On my vehicle the dealer had pre-set my settings, they were aware of my disability condition to my left side plus we towed a caravan, our dealership were excellent. Lane Centre OFF Alert Option Vibration Through Steering Wheel Sensitivity Medium Sway Warning On Medium
mine was the 2022 model. I collected it in June 22. As with you the dealer set it all up. I had no problems at all with it until Dec 22 when the accident happened. I had no idea it could be switched off by me, but I would never have switched it off anyway. I’m devastated to lose the car and not be able to replace it with another rav4. I’m currently using a loan Qashqai but probably getting a Ford Kuga PHEV so I can have a a hoist for my scooter. thank you for the responses so far, I’ve found some helpful comments, especially the link.
I am with Kezo, I initially ordered a Kuga ST X Edition, both the FHEV and PHEV have an engine problem to date Ford do not have a fix, it has been both highlighted on the Kuga and this forum, I cancelled.
As you are in the market for a quality reliable PHEV look at the Mazda CX-60, it has all the safety features you require and more, I would suggest the Suzuki Across which is a rebadged Toyota RAV4 PHEV, the Across appears to be more economical the the CX-60, however after your experience and loss of confidence with the Toyota RAV4 I would probably give that a miss.
If I can give an opinion your accident, it is just that an unfortunate accident, I wish you luck with your case.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
On 2021 models user manual page p362 LTA setting can be adjusted and/or turned off. On my vehicle the dealer had pre-set my settings, they were aware of my disability condition to my left side plus we towed a caravan, our dealership were excellent. Lane Centre OFF Alert Option Vibration Through Steering Wheel Sensitivity Medium Sway Warning On Medium
mine was the 2022 model. I collected it in June 22. As with you the dealer set it all up. I had no problems at all with it until Dec 22 when the accident happened. I had no idea it could be switched off by me, but I would never have switched it off anyway.
I’m devastated to lose the car and not be able to replace it with another rav4. I’m currently using a loan Qashqai but probably getting a Ford Kuga PHEV so I can have a a hoist for my scooter.
thank you for the responses so far, I’ve found some helpful comments, especially the link.
My Toyota RAV4 was a few months old. It was top of the range with all the top bells and whistles added. This included Safety Sense driver assist
Clearly not a Motability car then
it most definitely was. I’m not sure why you would find that difficult to believe and funny.
I misread your comment, thinking you had only had it a few months, as the Rav4 hasn’t been back on the scheme since Ianuary 2021. Perhaps looking if you haven’t done so already on any UK Rav4 or any Toyota forums for that matter and seeing if their has been a similar case. Although its probably a bit late to get your convictions squashed ?
Thank you for the apology ?. thankfully I’ve not got a conviction as yet. RSA have provided excellent defence solicitors who specialise in motoring. Unfortunately the vehicle was scrapped before it was inspected. We’ve got information from across the pond where a class action is being prepared but not a lot from Europe. I know there’s been some posts about RAV4s behaving dangerously and causing accidents on this forum. I’ve not tried the RAV4 forum but that’s a great shout, I’ll try there too.
In reply to: Suzuki Across PHEV
How you doing with your search.
Not great! I really liked the Mada cx-60, infact I got what I thought was a very keen price for the managers car, as demo we had for just under 4hrs Wednesday but, I’m not sure with the way it drives, but, the car is still in back of y mind. The X Trail Tecna never joined the scheme. Now planning to find time to look at the Australl(e). Eager to see what @Phaedra thinks of it
I’m stuck between a rock and hard place – on one hand the Across would do for us but, personally Ive always maintained I’d never pay that sort of AP on the scheme. Whether that has to change or I buy is something else I need to decide I loved the Ford Kuga both FHEV and PHEV, excellent driving position, nice interior etc, but the reliability seriously let it down.
I really like the Hyundia Tuscon PHEV but unfortunately could only tow 1350kg.
We had a look at the X-Trail lovely looking interior and exterior, but I think it was probably the top specification, never bothered with a test drive as my heart was set on the Kuga PHEV.
At the time the Kuga PHEV AP £5045 less the £750, financially compared to the FHEV running cost it did not make any sense even with our solar panels.
The Suzuki Across is a mind blowing stupid financial decision AP £6999, but I always wanted a Toyota RAV4 PHEV and this was the closest I was going to get.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
We have been running our Outlander PHEV for just over wo and half years, we have kept a detailed Excel spreadsheet over our lease. Fortunately we can charge up at home using off peak electric, at present we are on Octopus Go 5 pence off peak and 13.72 day rate. In March this is going to change to 12 pence if we stay on Octopus Go or 18 pence if we change to ECO7, however in April there is a strong chance this rate will rise.
Like I stated we can charge up at home off peak, in the summer the majority of our journeys are using off peak electric, in reality we are ideal candidates for a full EV, but as we tow a caravan this rules out a full EV.
What I am trying to show is a realistic everyday comparison and 18,000 over 3 year lease
PHEV @ 12 pence off peak/petrol £1.50 litre 10 pence @ mile = £1.808.67
PHEV @ 18 pence off peak/petrol £1.50 litre 11.25 pence @ mile = £2025
PHEV @ 34 pence standard rate/petrol £1.50 14.5 pence @ mile = £2.610
New comparable Hybrid Petrol 44mph petrol £1.50 litre
Nissan Xtrail/Rav4 15.5 pence @ mile = £2,790
Diesel averaging 44mpg @ £1.70 litre 17.6 pence @ mile = £3,168
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
In reply to: Lexus to rejoin Motability in 2022
I think you have to take these reviews with a pinch of salt, undoubtable they may be better cars in its class, however as most people dont drive like Lweis Hamilton to the shops etc. Depending on the AP and if the car meets the users needs I would expect a UX to be more than adequate for the vast majority of drivers. It is intresting however that it only UX going on the sceme when most other manufacturers are pulling vehicles of it, probably Lexus trying to get rid of stock.
I think that some reviewers get a bee in their bonnet over certain things, as was the case with run flat tyres which were universally slated. I had loads of BMW’s with them and didn’t notice any of the issues (noise, hard ride etc) that reviewers were obsessed over. Sadly, they have largely disappeared now, which is a great shame as they were brilliant when you had a puncture as you never got into difficulty. Brilliant for disabled drivers. We now have a new BMW with no run-flat tyres, which is a hugely retrograde step IMHO.
However, there’s no getting away from the fact that professional car reviewers drive almost every car that’s out there and are far better placed to compare and contrast than we are. Super cars aside, rarely are reviews about pure speed, but are far more rounded. Performance is, of course, addressed as it’s important, but so is practicality, in car entertainment, running costs etc. Any new car can impress on a test drive, or in the first few weeks of ownership, but reviewers can spot the things that can become tiresome far quicker than we can. I would say ignore reviews at your peril.
As for the UX, the reviews are universally poor. This was the summary of one review that pretty much summed them all up (I posted it earlier, but it’s worth repeating;
“The hybrid-powered Lexus UX could be an interesting alternative to established premium family SUVs, with distinctive looks and a very efficient hybrid system. However, it’s only the promise of good fuel economy, cheap company car tax, and Lexus’s excellent reliability that appeal. The driving experience is so-so, the infotainment system is poor, while practicality is shocking for a family SUV when it comes to rear-seat and boot space. As a result it’s impossible to recommend over a petrol or diesel powered Volvo XC40 or Range Rover Evoque, and if you want a hybrid SUV you’d be better off with a larger Toyota RAV4 for the same money”.
Reordered a RAV4 on the 6th January (original order placed Sep 22nd 2021) because the original order was cancelled by Toyota due to the My22 build being implemented. Fleet cars (which includes Motability orders) that were not allocated a build slot were cancelled I believe. The RAV reappeared on the Motability Website on Jan 1 2022 and even better, there was a listing for the AWD Excel which is the one I ordered on the 6th Jan. On about 8th Jan, the RAV 4 AWD was removed from the website, lucky I got my order in at the right time methinks. Anyway, the dealership found that while Motability had approved the order, Toyota wouldn’t allow the dealership to order one! The upshot is that my order was reordered (again) on the 7th January as a 2WD which unfortunately had nearly £1K more on the Advance Payment (AP) I have to make. I contested this and it is now at the original AP from the Jan 6 order weyhey. I questioned the dealership about allocations of order etc and they were absolutely adamant that they have NO CONTROL over when the car will be built and definitely not any ‘monthly allocations’ etc. As far as they are concerned the build date for the car is completely out of their hands and remains with Big Toyota. The best estimate that I have been given for my car delivery is ‘probably October 22’ at the moment, and they don’t expect me to get a hard build date until maybe May/June. It is all very frustrating but I am fairly sure most of the car manufacturers have similar problems so I am going to sit and wait with fingers crossed that they don’t decide on a My23 and cancel my bloody order again!!
Its true that dealers don’t have any control over when a car is built, but that’s not what build slot allocations are. Although generally known in the trade as Build Slot Allocations this means allocations for when orders can be placed with the manufacturer, not when they can be built – so very different. Once a dealer secures its new allocations they place orders for the next batch of outstanding customer orders in their queue. Each order is given a provisional build or delivery date but this usually changes several times. Toyota may have a slightly different system to other manufacturers for all I know (or call it something else), but I think you were possibly confusing two very different things – order allocations and build dates.
Reordered a RAV4 on the 6th January (original order placed Sep 22nd 2021) because the original order was cancelled by Toyota due to the My22 build being implemented. Fleet cars (which includes Motability orders) that were not allocated a build slot were cancelled I believe.
The RAV reappeared on the Motability Website on Jan 1 2022 and even better, there was a listing for the AWD Excel which is the one I ordered on the 6th Jan. On about 8th Jan, the RAV 4 AWD was removed from the website, lucky I got my order in at the right time methinks. Anyway, the dealership found that while Motability had approved the order, Toyota wouldn’t allow the dealership to order one!
The upshot is that my order was reordered (again) on the 7th January as a 2WD which unfortunately had nearly £1K more on the Advance Payment (AP) I have to make. I contested this and it is now at the original AP from the Jan 6 order weyhey.
I questioned the dealership about allocations of order etc and they were absolutely adamant that they have NO CONTROL over when the car will be built and definitely not any ‘monthly allocations’ etc. As far as they are concerned the build date for the car is completely out of their hands and remains with Big Toyota.
The best estimate that I have been given for my car delivery is ‘probably October 22’ at the moment, and they don’t expect me to get a hard build date until maybe May/June. It is all very frustrating but I am fairly sure most of the car manufacturers have similar problems so I am going to sit and wait with fingers crossed that they don’t decide on a My23 and cancel my bloody order again!!
In reply to: Rav4
Yesterday there were seven RAV4 listed, the Order of trim lines from the bottom is Icon, Design, Excel, Dynamic:
Two wheel drive RAV4:
Icon – £2195 Advance Payment
Design – £3795 Advance Payment
Excel – £3895 Advance Payment
Dynamic – £3995 Advance Payment
Four Wheel Drive RAV4:
Design – £3995 Advance Payment
Excel – £3095 Advance Payment
Dynamic – £3695 Advance Payment
Today there are only 5 RAV4 to order, Excel and Dynamic in Four Wheel Drive are no longer listed. If a car is not listed it means that Motability do not want to buy it and the dealership will not be able to process an order.
In reply to: Rav4
If you order a RAV4 Excel remember you have to specify the interior / leather colour, choice of 3 colour’s, when ours arrived the light grey Interior came as a bit of a surprise.
In reply to: Rav4
Hi, thinking about ordering rav4 excel, has anyone got advice about this car, thanks Martin
A quick search by using our search function shows the following @Martin https://forum.whichmobilitycar.co.uk/forums/search/rav4+excel/
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Hi, thinking about ordering rav4 excel, has anyone got advice about this car, thanks Martin
In reply to: Lexus to rejoin Motability in 2022
Whilst the UX would be too small for us, when it was first suggested that it was joining the scheme (back in October last year) I looked through the reviews on it and none of them make good reading, which might suggest why Motability could be a route for it.
This is the verdict summing up the full review conducted by What Car? magazine who only awarded it 2 stars, which is pretty unusual for them;
“The hybrid-powered Lexus UX could be an interesting alternative to established premium family SUVs, with distinctive looks and a very efficient hybrid system. However, it’s only the promise of good fuel economy, cheap company car tax, and Lexus’s excellent reliability that appeal. The driving experience is so-so, the infotainment system is poor, while practicality is shocking for a family SUV when it comes to rear-seat and boot space. As a result it’s impossible to recommend over a petrol or diesel powered Volvo XC40 or Range Rover Evoque, and if you want a hybrid SUV you’d be better off with a larger Toyota RAV4 for the same money”.
In reply to: Lexus to rejoin Motability in 2022
Whilst any Lexus would be a welcome addition, it’s a shame if all we get is the UX as it’s too small to be practical for many Motability customers and has had some pretty bad reviews (perhaps why they want to offload some on Motability?). This is the verdict summing up the full review conducted by What Car? magazine who only awarded it 2 stars, which is pretty unusual for them;
“The hybrid-powered Lexus UX could be an interesting alternative to established premium family SUVs, with distinctive looks and a very efficient hybrid system. However, it’s only the promise of good fuel economy, cheap company car tax, and Lexus’s excellent reliability that appeal. The driving experience is so-so, the infotainment system is poor, while practicality is shocking for a family SUV when it comes to rear-seat and boot space. As a result it’s impossible to recommend over a petrol or diesel powered Volvo XC40 or Range Rover Evoque, and if you want a hybrid SUV you’d be better off with a larger Toyota RAV4 for the same money”.
In reply to: Thoughts about the Toyota Rav4
We’ve had our RAV4 Excel 2wd about 2 months now, for the size of engine it’s economical, we did over 600 miles on the last tank full, pencil and paper mpg worked out at 59mpg. This is our 2nd RAV4 and in most areas it’s an improvement over the last one. So far we have no regrets about choosing another RAV4, the boot floor on this on is flat which make it easier to put the wheelchair in. If you want any more info on the RAV4 just ask I’ll help if I can.
Hi stewart
The RAV4 is on my short list with everything else being taken off the scheme but having watch and read many reviews for the RAV the boot, what I can make of it, is about 40” from back seat to back door and that’s almost over the line for my 41” scooter so wonder if you can tell me if the back seats slide forward one or two inches.
One other thing some reviewers seem to think that the car will only travel a few hundred metres on electric only so making the “EV” button pointless and it being more like a Mild Hybrid and not a Full Hybrid as the latter should be able to travel a few miles in my mind so just wonder what your findings are.
I’ve made an appointment at my local Ford dealer for Monday to check out the Kuga Hybrid that Ford reckons can do about a useful 5 miles on battery only but the downer for this one is I noticed even though it does have back seats that slide forward I’ve seen a video of someone measuring the boot length and saying it’s only 34” so looks like bad news from my point of view but will know for sure Monday.
In reply to: Thoughts about the Toyota Rav4
The big plus with few factory fitted options to choose from with Toyota is shorter delivery times, about 10 weeks in our case.
One option we thought about was the birds eye view parking camera which came with an enhanced sound system cost was about £700 I think.
We watched a couple of YouTube videos of it being used, it looked like it could be frustrating waiting for it to initialise and using it, I think it’s something you need to try for your self if it’s something you want.
Lack of options wasn’t a problem for us, the RAV4 Excel came with most things we wanted
Heating controls are knobs and buttons and the radio has some knobs too, useful to find by feel rather than looking for.
In reply to: Thoughts about the Toyota Rav4
We’ve had our RAV4 Excel 2wd about 2 months now, for the size of engine it’s economical, we did over 600 miles on the last tank full, pencil and paper mpg worked out at 59mpg.
This is our 2nd RAV4 and in most areas it’s an improvement over the last one. So far we have no regrets about choosing another RAV4, the boot floor on this on is flat which make it easier to put the wheelchair in.
If you want any more info on the RAV4 just ask I’ll help if I can.
In reply to: So undecided as to next car
On our second RAV4 and 5th Toyota Hybrid, this one is the best yet.
We have had the car about 2 months now the model we have is the Excel, it has
Electric handbrake, which seems to be automatic have yet to need to press any buttons.
Engine Bhp 215, just done 619 miles on 2nd tank full 59 Mpg
Reverse camera is standard also has some sort or rear cross traffic monitor
Tailgate is electric, not sure about this RAV4 but on the previous RAV4 tailgate opening height could be changed
Boot can take a manual wheelchair big wheels off plus a couple of boxes of shopping. Boot floor is flat.
Be warned if you do go for the RAV4 Excel you have to choose the leather seat colour light grey, black or tan I think, black is not standard.
Good luck with your search
In reply to: Q3 News and Prices
Toyota Q3 prices are available but I cant seem to post the link.
RAV4 MY21
Icon 5dr CVT 2WD 2.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5 dr FWD £2,195 T/A £1,066 T/A 686180
Design 5dr CVT 2WD 2.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5 dr FWD £2,445 T/A £1,316 T/A 686179
Design 5dr CVT 4WD 2.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5 dr FWD £3,645 T/A £2,516 T/A 686178
Excel 5dr CVT 2WD 2.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5 dr FWD £3,495 T/A £2,366 T/A 686177
Dynamic 5dr CVT 2WD 2.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5 dr FWD £3,645 T/A £2,516 T/A 686175C-HR MY21
Icon 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £1,095 T/A £176 £69.85 681654
Icon with Tech Pack 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £1,645 T/A £516 T/A 681653
Design 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £2,595 T/A £1,466 T/A 681652
Design with Leather 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,145 T/A £2,016 T/A 681651
Design 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,245 T/A £2,116 T/A 681650
Design with Leather 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,795 T/A £2,666 T/A 681649
Excel 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,045 T/A £1,916 T/A 681642
Excel with JBL Premium Sound 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,345 T/A £2,216 T/A 681641
Excel 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,645 T/A £2,516 T/A 681640
Excel with JBL Premium Sound 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,995 T/A £2,866 T/A 681639
GR Sport 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £2,695 T/A £1,566 T/A 681155
GR Sport with Leather 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,395 T/A £2,266 T/A 681154
GR Sport with Leather & JBL 1.8 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,645 T/A £2,516 T/A 681153
GR Sport 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,495 T/A £2,366 T/A 681151
GR Sport with Leather 2.0 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Auto 5dr Coupe FWD £3,995 T/A £2,866 T/A 681150Yaris MY21
Icon 5dr CVT Hatchback 1.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Automatic 5 dr HB £0 £62.55 £0 £62.55 684431
Design 5dr CVT Hatchback 1.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Automatic 5 dr HB £195 T/A £0 £65.08 684426
Design 5dr CVT [Panoramic Roof] Hatchback 1.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Automatic 5 dr HB £695 T/A £0 £68.38 684437
Excel 5dr CVT Hatchback 1.5 VVT-i Hybrid Petrol Automatic 5 dr HB £595 T/A £0 £67.72 684440
I’m stuck between a rock and hard place – on one hand the Across would do for us but, personally Ive always maintained I’d never pay that sort of AP on the scheme. Whether that has to change or I buy is something else I need to decide 
