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Mine works the same as yours @kezo If the speed limit warning is muted, the speed limit doesn’t flash when you exceed it.
Two other irritants of late are frequent prompts to keep my hands on the steering wheel and suggestions that I need to take a break, both obviously accompanied by bings 🤬
The cars go at auction I bet this will have zero impact on residuals as demand will still be high
The very fact that cars are disposed of at auction means that the residuals are considerably less than they could be!
I think that the Sat Nav is the source of many of the bings and bongs, even with the direction instructions muted. As there are around 4 different routes I can take to get to most places, I always put the destination into the Sat Nav in order to check live traffic updates. As previously mentioned, the bings and bongs if you deviate from the Sat Nav’s chosen route are persistent and it brings for other things that I’ve yet to establish! I noticed a ‘bing’ this morning purely because I put the car into reverse!
@kezo I’ve just received an email from Hyundai regarding my BluLink subscription, which hopefully answers our questions.
The upshot is that the car has 6 months PRO subscription (which was actually 14 months, as it doesn’t expire until October 🤔), which switches to 3 years Plus subscription and 10 years Lite.
For the avoidance of doubt, it goes on to say, in bold;
Your period of complimentary Bluelink PRO service will expire in October, and will automatically switch to Bluelink PLUS.
Thanks @kezo As I said, it’s nothing to do with strong demand, as demand is in fact very weak. There will obviously be some supply disruption for less profitable customers (Motability) as manufacturers shed jobs and adjust production to reflect the much lower than anticipated demand.
I attended the Motability Road show in Belfast on Saturday and spoke with the folks manning the stands. Many were local dealers but some were employees of the manufacturer. I spoke to the Ford guy who said that the Capri and Explorer were removed because of excessive demand. The agreement they have with Motability does not allow them to alter price mid quarter so they can only control demand by removing cars completely. I was led to believe they will return in October but most likely with a higher AP to slow demand.
With respect, those with a vested interest in selling them are never going to say that demand for one of their cars is below expectations, but the facts speak for themselves. Ford, like many manufacturers, are going through major changes due to poor sales and this is bound to have some knock on effect to Motability availability.
I was watching the latest ‘Harry’s Garage’ YouTube video last night, which was an extremely interesting update on the current car market, EV take up (or lack of it) and resultant job losses in the motoring industry due to falling demand for new cars (1.9m new cars sold in the U.K. last year, down from 2.6m around 10 years ago). It’s well worth watching.
Re Ford Capri and Explorer, Ford built a factory to manufacture them and it has a capacity of 250,000 cars a year. Current demand is only 19,000 a year and they’ve had to make 1,000 staff redundant. Also, across Europe, several other manufacturers have made, and are planning, thousands of job losses due to falling demand for new cars due to the EV mandates. No doubt there is an adjustment period which will be contributing to supply issues.
@kezo It operates the same way as the BMW system, just with added bings and bongs 😂 If traffic is bad, and it calculates that an alternative route is quicker, it sends you on the quicker route.
Bings and Bings aside, it’s actually a better system than the BMW one. During journeys, even when there are no traffic issues, it will often show alternative routes in grey at various stages, along with stats like “2 miles shorter, 5 minutes longer”.
One thing that I really like is that in variable speed limit stretches on motorways it keeps a running total of your average speed through that section.
@kezo Like you, I rarely need Sat Nav to find my way, but I use it primarily for live traffic updates. Like all Sat Nav systems, if you deviate the system will constantly keep trying to direct you back to the prescribed route, until you are far enough along your chosen route that it now becomes the quickest. That’s fine but, being a Hyundai, every single one of those recalculations is met with ‘pings’. Today I went an alternative way and must have had at least ten sets of bings (every time the system recalculated), until my chosen route was accepted – and that was with the speed limit assist muted 😡😂
I told them that due to my wife’s disability we needed an SUV for the higher seating position and a decent size boot for the wheelchair. We had some dreadful cars (Vauxhall Mokka and MG HS) but also a Mercedes GLB (which had faults, but it was at least a decent replacement for our BMW). If you don’t make a case you get a cr@ppy little runabout.
To be fair to Hyundai, the facelift Tucson reverted to buttons for key functions versus the touchscreen controls on the pre facelift. The functionality of the Hyundai system is pretty good and certainly easier and more intuitive to find things than BMWs latest iDrive. It’s just all the ruddy bings and bongs that mean that I would struggle to convince myself to get another Hyundai. It’s Nanny State on wheels 😂
@kezo My mate is a real Hyundai fan and has had loads of them, and he buys them for his wife and daughters as well. He is totally oblivious to all the bings and bongs and is able to zone out of them. It sounds like you have the same superpower 😉 Sadly, I am made of lesser stuff, and it irritates the hell out of me 😂
I was watching a new ‘Harry’s Garage’ YouTube video the other day and he was chatting to Jeremy Clarkson about what they termed ‘Peak Car’, which they decided was around 2015/16. By this time, cars had useful features like Sat Nav and decent safety kit plus, of course, buttons rather than touch screens. They both have the same view as me, that a lot of the developments of recent years (such as constant prompts, interventions and touch screens for everything) have rather taken the joy out of driving. Maybe that’s why I miss my 2015 BMW 5 Series so much 😔
Depends on when you requested it. The longest I’ve waited for a hire car is the next morning after requesting one, but it might have come sooner had I not insisted that it was a comparable car.
I just had an update on the Ioniq 5, and the safety feature screen, I could adjust the speedo 5 mph higher before it reminds me. I cant remember that feature before. You can adjust it to 3 or 5 mph over the limit. Dont know if its the same with the Tuscon, i would imagine the software would be more or less consistent across the range.
I would also have expected the system to be consistent across the range but, sadly, it isn’t. Someone had mentioned this feature a while back and I checked and the Tucson didn’t have it – just on (with a 1mph warning) or off. My car had a software update when in for its service a few weeks ago and another over the air update just a few days ago. I’ve just checked and, annoyingly, this feature has not been added.
It really bugs me, because if I could set it to warn at 5mph over the limit I would leave it on all the time and find it useful. However, at just 1mph over, when cars tend to overstate speed by about 1 or 2 mph anyway, plus my county only prosecutes above 10% + 1mph over the limit, it’s a complete pain in the a@se so I always switch it off every time it first starts bonging at me.
Unfortunately, even that doesn’t put an end to the bings and bongs. I always use Sat Nav, even on my 10 mile short journeys, in order to pick up traffic alerts. As there are several ways to go, if I deviate from the way the Sat Nav wants me to go, whereas the BMW system just silently recalculated a new route, the Hyundai system has to bing to tell me I’ve gone the ‘wrong’ way 😡It also seems to bing on occasions to alert me to speed limit changes, even when I’m not speeding🤬 Then there are the bings and bongs because my hands aren’t on the steering wheel (when they are) and telling me that I need to take a break, 5 minutes after I’ve left home 😡Finally there are other bings and bongs that 13 months in to ownership I still have absolutely no idea what they mean, as there is nothing flashing on the dash or HUD to indicate what the bing or bong is telling me 🤬. As you can probably tell, I am binged and bonged out with Hyundai 😂
@Marc On the 2025 MY Tucson’s that @kezo and I have, you have to mute the speed limit bongs every single time that you start the car. There’s no option to default to permanently off.
When just 1mph over the limit the car will bong 4 times, unless you take your foot off the accelerator, at which point the bongs stop. If it only bonged twice, you probably eased off the accelerator after the 2nd bong. Had you not, another 2 bongs would have happened!
Were you definitely going over the speed limit after each restart? I asked the dealership last month if there was a way to change the ‘default on’ setting and they said no. I sincerely hope that you are correct and there is a new software release (even though my car had one just the other day), as all the ruddy bings and bongs would stop me getting another Hyundai.
When driving, the media button kept going to android auto, rather than the media screen, where I can select dab, could not think of a way to get to the screen, I guess I should have used voice command, don’t like fiddling with it on a motorway, certainly not as slick as the bmw. I think I will get used to the voice commands, as that works well, if I can remember them!
I also find it to be quite glitchy compared to the previous BMW system. In my case, when listening to the radio it will sometimes turn itself over to the music source and I have to press the mode button to get back to radio. It can do this over and over again 😡.
Whilst the system in our old BMWs was near perfect, it’s worth noting that the latest lower BMW models are no longer as good. As well as the iDrive controller having gone on all models below 3 Series, the latest iDrive is way too complicated and having driven them back to back I found the latest Hyundai system to be far more intuitive. Unfortunately, with an ever increasing reliance on computers and touch screens, these glitch issues will become far more commonplace, in a way that a button never was!
@Glos Guy Thanks. That sounds as simple as possible. My electric tariff ends in Feb, so by then I should have a good idea of how much energy I’m putting in to the car and work out if an EV tariff would be better (I doubt it).
I’m on a standard Scottish Power tariff and my electric usage has increased by about £50 a month since I’ve had the PHEV.
@gilders I can’t advise on your specific charging cable, but with my Hyundai one I have it set to the fastest charge speed (10A?) which works fine on a normal socket. The plug gets very very slightly warm but nowhere near hot. I simply plug in to the wall socket and flick the socket switch on first, then plug the other end in to the car. That’s it. A second or two after you plug in you’ll hear the charger end activate in the socket and there will be a ping as the battery charge and charge time flash up on the instrument cluster. I just leave the car and wait until I get an alert on the app that it’s charged. Alternatively, you can check progress on the app or every time you open the door the charge status will show on the instrument cluster. Empty (well, 15% is empty) to full takes 6.5 hours. After the charge has completed, I flick off the switch to the wall socket, unplug the plug end of the charge cable and coil it up as I walk towards the other end when I simply unplug from the car and put the cover on the socket and shut the flap. It’s dead easy, just a faff compared to a pure ICE car IMHO.
As @kezo says, there is a fault with the app, certainly for PHEV drivers. Even with the settings set to miles, not km, it will often express remaining EV range as km, whilst in the same screen showing petrol range in miles. I tried and failed to flag this to Hyundai, but they seemed incapable of understanding this! It’s patchy. Sometimes it quotes both in miles, other times as above. I’ve made sure that the settings are set to show miles (which they are) and even changes from miles to km and back again to see if that solves it, but it doesn’t.
I’ve just looked at the app and, rather unhelpfully, it doesn’t say what the subscription changes to when the Pro subscription expires on 2nd October.
If I click on the message that mentions the impending expiry, it gives me prices for Pro (£99) and Plus (£29) but nothing for Lite, which makes me think that it defaults to Lite, but I’ll only know for sure when the free Pro subscription expires in a few weeks time.
From memory, I think the car was classed as a 2025 model, as it was the facelift model which was launched last summer. The car certainly gets OTA updates.
Correct Rene, I remember posting this or a similar link and also downloaded it, just in case.
It’s obviously changed since last year, as we got over a year of PRO, not just 6 months. Will we drop to Plus or Lite? My 14 months of PRO ends next month.
It’s always surprised me how Motability don’t seem to care about residual values. They bin cars off in auctions at rock bottom prices, yet won’t sell them to customers at a much higher price. Also, cars returned early aren’t offered to existing or new customers (so that they can get a car immediately) but, again, are binned off in auctions at rock bottom prices.
We had a run of Volkswagens through Motability and VW have two service frequency schedules – one that a sensible owner who wants to preserve as much residual value as possible and keep their car in tip top condition would use, and another less frequent schedule for the penny pinchers. Motability use the latter!
It’s naive of people to think that it’s Motability’s loss, not ours, as these policies ultimately contribute significantly to the high APs, as depreciation is always by far the biggest cost of car ownership.
Unless it’s changed since we got our Tucson last year, you should have at least 12 months of Bluelink PRO free of charge (the exact period depends on when the car was built – mine had 14 months free). After that you can either pay an annual subscription or, as I’m going to do, just let it drop down to the basic service, which remains free. I don’t find it to be terribly good, so don’t want to pay for it!
