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I don’t get that. PAYG is 14p and a monthly subscription of £37.50 it goes up to 15p. What?? Are they determined to lose customers?
Hang on, that includes public charging?
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It does seem slightly confusing although considering it’s both home and public charging isn’t too bad.
I’m currently with Octopus Go and fixed for 12months at 8.5p per kWh +£30 a month, although off peak charging only at that rate.
I guess it depends wholly on your usage profile, do you only need to charge at home? what network of public chargers does it cover? If only charge at home perhaps you could be better off looking elsewhere.
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BMW TouringIt’s not clear, as far as I can tell, what the public charging voucher is for, as one off year or monthly. I dont get the subscriptions, but they seem to be pushing a battery check and insurance, which we, and I should imagine, many others dont need.
Also with the sub, if you go over the limit, you get charged the full whack.
Sounds like a mixture of public and your own charger tariffs.
Either way, I moved from Octopus Intelligent Go to E.On back in April or so. They offer 7 hours (as opposed to 6 I think with octopus) of 7p charging at night. I know Octopus can charge the car during the day if there’s off pick, but it was irrelevant to me.
Note that with the help from our great economist RR, the tariffs will go up shortly.
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Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.Motability Skoda Enyaq SportLine 85x April 2024 (unhappy customer - Ombudsman pending)
Motability Mazda CX-60 PHEV July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)I have OVO charge anytime and have been offered an early change to the new ChargeAnytime – I will chose the & £59.50 per month tariff, which will cover me for charging to a guaranteed 350 kWh per month, and I can charge the car at ‘any time of the night or day’ to suit my requirements , & not have to charge only at selected times – eg I can charge mid day , at peak times for 0.17 p per kWh rather than a typical peak tariff of around 0.29 -30p per kWh (before a likely rise in October, ) so yes they have gone up, but are still lower than oVo’s off peak tariff , and almost half the price of the standard tariff..
I am not obsessing about range, and my Ariya is averaging around 3.5 miles per kWh ( 140 mpg equivalent- using the ‘multiply by 40’ rule which gives me a quick, rough idea, for comparison to petrol and diesel powered cars ) without me constantly thinking about the Weather, temperature , carrying weight, eco settings , range etc. – just by driving it normally, eg just arrived back from a 4 day visit to Cornwall, 500 mile round trip, fully loaded, , hardly ever below 70mph on way down and back, with a/c on 3.2 miles kWh for the whole trip recorded
electricity is just another fuel like petrol or diesel after all?
So , back on message, based on this performance, I should get over 1000 miles a month for the flat fee. , which , frankly, will cover my monthly driving these days.
Plus I get
MA Public charger voucher added to my OVO charge app. Value £ 240 per annum for redemption at public chargers which cost around 41- 89 p per kWh
Btw, If something better comes along there is no charge to exit
I am not obsessing about range, and my Ariya is averaging around 3.5 miles per kWh ( 140 mpg equivalent- using the ‘multiply by 40’ rule which gives me a quick, rough idea, for comparison to petrol and diesel powered cars )
I don’t understand the multiply by 40 rule😂
Petrol has an energy density of approx 33.7kWh per gallon – e.g if you travel 100 miles on 33.7kWh of energy, the MPGe would be 100MPGe. At 3.5 miles kWh, therfore your MPGe figure is 117.95 MPGe or 28.57 kWh/100miles 0r 285.71 Wh/mile.
MPGe, is more a US thing for EV’s and PHEV’s and not typically used in europe, where metric miles (Km)/kWh or Wh/mile (Km) are typically used.
3.5 miles/kWh for 17 pence is cheap motoring, in a car that did 50mpg, the same 3.5 miles would cost just under 41 pence however, it would have been less than half the cost if OVO didn’t change Charge Anytime!
Those prices look very expensive!, my worst month this year (January) I used 283kWh charging, at 7p that’s only £19.81.
Under their cheapest subsciption it would be £27.50 + £44.43 for the elctricity used. So £71.93 compared to £19.81 on Octopus Intelligent Go.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Those prices look very expensive!, my worst month this year (January) I used 283kWh charging, at 7p that’s only £19.81. Under their cheapest subsciption it would be £27.50 + £44.43 for the elctricity used. So £71.93 compared to £19.81 on Octopus Intelligent Go.
It also includes £120 of public charging however, I sill think it is expensive and doesn’t state what public chargers are included, taking into account many on here use Tesla, when neededing to top up away from home, which are cheap compared to others.
Looking at the standard plan 175kWh @ 15.7p kWh, works out at £330 a year (inc £120 public charging)
At 7p kWh x 175kWh month x 12 = £147 a year + £120 for public charging, still makes it over £60 a year cheaper than OVO’s new tariffs, thats if you spent £120 a year using public chargers at 80p kWh!!
OVO..
“Public charging vouchers are worth £120 per year and can be used at any time throughout the course of the year. OVO’s research shows a typical EV driver that can charge at home uses public charging around 5 times a year using 30 kWhs per charge, at the average rapid charging rate of 80p per kWh this £120 public charging vouchers would cover all of a typical EV driver’s public charging yearly costs.”
I’m (hopefully) driving up to Glasgow in about 10 days with my daughter to see a show, so about 330miles round trip.
I’ve found a bus company that opens its chargers to the public, First Charge Superhub, with the Electroverse card it’s 36p/kWh.
As I still have my original £10 credit on the card a quick top up will be more than enough to get back home 🙂
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
I am not obsessing about range, and my Ariya is averaging around 3.5 miles per kWh ( 140 mpg equivalent- using the ‘multiply by 40’ rule which gives me a quick, rough idea, for comparison to petrol and diesel powered cars )
I don’t understand the multiply by 40 rule
Petrol has an energy density of approx 33.7kWh per gallon – e.g if you travel 100 miles on 33.7kWh of energy, the MPGe would be 100MPGe. At 3.5 miles kWh, therfore your MPGe figure is 117.95 MPGe or 28.57 kWh/100miles 0r 285.71 Wh/mile. MPGe, is more a US thing for EV’s and PHEV’s and not typically used in europe, where metric miles (Km)/kWh or Wh/mile (Km) are typically used. 3.5 miles/kWh for 17 pence is cheap motoring, in a car that did 50mpg, the same 3.5 miles would cost just under 41 pence however, it would have been less than half the cost if OVO didn’t change Charge Anytime!,
II just used this to Obtain the 40 x rule – they and Isaid i t.is not accurate, just an on the the journeey guide
As you say,even at 17p it is still cheap motoring,
The difference with the new Charge Anytime compared to the current version, is that it is a charge of .17p per kWh ‘ at any time of the day ,compared to the existing charge anytime , which picks and choses when to charge.
A fixed DD payment for £59.50 giving up to 1400 miles is just clean and very convenient, and is still cheap compared to OVo’ or any other normal tariff and petrol/dieselac
Thanks for the info anyway – good to know how to accurately calculate figures?
Just seems like throwing away money for some limited convenience.
I did 288kw of charging in Sept. I’m not on a smart tariff as I don’t have a smart charger. So I use Octopus Go at 8.5p per kw, 5hrs a night. My Sept. charge cost for 288kw was £24.48.
I’ve done 7000 miles in my car in the 9 months of 2025, I’ve fast charged it twice at Tesla Gretna Green, 115kw in total, cost £66.82. My average consumption is 3.2m/kw, if I remove the mileage covered by the Tesla charges, then I’ve spent £175 to charge my car, or, if included, £242. Your DD would have cost £535 over the same period. Over double the cost.
Ok, you get a bit more public charging, about 50kw or so, call it a single charge at Tesla, but it simply doesn’t add up. Intelligent Go or EON would save you even more and allow peak charging if that was definitely required – and it wouldn’t be KW limited like the Ovo offering.
So, over say 3 years, you’d save £900-1000 – something to put towards the next AP.
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Just seems like throwing away money for some limited convenience. I did 288kw of charging in Sept. I’m not on a smart tariff as I don’t have a smart charger. So I use Octopus Go at 8.5p per kw, 5hrs a night. My Sept. charge cost for 288kw was £24.48. I’ve done 7000 miles in my car in the 9 months of 2025, I’ve fast charged it twice at Tesla Gretna Green, 115kw in total, cost £66.82. My average consumption is 3.2m/kw, if I remove the mileage covered by the Tesla charges, then I’ve spent £175 to charge my car, or, if included, £242. Your DD would have cost £535 over the same period. Over double the cost. Ok, you get a bit more public charging, about 50kw or so, call it a single charge at Tesla, but it simply doesn’t add up. UIntelligent Go or EON would save you even more and allow peak charging if that was definitely required – and it wouldn’t be KW limited like the Ovo offering. So, over say 3 years, you’d save £900-1000 – something to put towards the next AP.
I accept your reasoning and your verdict that my charging will be a tad more expensive than some
But I really am not looking to to get the best rate I can.
I just treat/ drive my electric car just like an ice car, and I will just plug in whenever I need to, for as long or as short a time as I please, and at any time night or day , not having to wait for a special time to start charging.
The best comparison ( for me , Including motorway driving.) is –
My Qashqai ePower 55 mpg 1000. miles = £115 – £120
VMy Tiguan 40 mpg 1000 miles. = £162 – £180
My Ariya. . 1000-1400 miles = fixed charge £ 59.50
Just use your EV like your petrol car. For most part overnight charging, is most convenient. Away from home, i use Tesla charging, the £90/year and plan the trip on that. If the route doesnt have a tesla chrger, just go with the fastest charger. Even if it costs 90p/kwhr, it doesnt matter, you do that option so rarely, its not a factor. Irs still xheaper than a perrol car. The last time i filled up a car, had a day trip to the seaside an it cost £50 (i cant remember lol).
The bottom line you drive the car and use its luxuries, penny pinching is not what its about.
On a side note, i popped in to tebay Nortbound for a pee and plugged the car in for a short charge, jyst to add 20 miles or so to give me a little leeway until the next Tesla charger. I dont know what make they wre but it was putting 200kw into the car, never had a fast charge like that before. Needless to say it only took 4 mins an was unplugged. Wasnt too bad either i think it was 69p)/kwhr. But yup that was the fastest chargjng av had.
On a side note, i popped in to tebay Nortbound for a pee and plugged the car in for a short charge, jyst to add 20 miles or so to give me a little leeway until the next Tesla charger. I dont know what make they wre but it was putting 200kw into the car, never had a fast charge like that before. Needless to say it only took 4 mins an was unplugged. Wasnt too bad either i think it was 69p)/kwhr. But yup that was the fastest chargjng av had.
Lol I live about 25mins from Tebay andtravelling back from Scotland last year I needed about 20 miles charge to get to cheap charging at home. Plugged in to charger, swiped card to start charge and then gave card to my wife to get a drink….Well off a wandering she went …couldn’t contact her, the charger had almost filled the car by the time I found her £3 charge at home cost me nearly £60!
The bottom line you drive the car and use its luxuries, penny pinching is not what it’s about.
absolutely agree.
Rachel Reeves might have caused issues but blaming her for energy prices when they’ve been going up for years now is really a bit Daily Mail if you ask me.
Our electricity wholesale prices are charged as if 100% of generation is from natural gas, the most expensive generation option regardless of where the power comes from. This was not set by this government and it’s a government choice to do this other countries do not. This has been explained in interviews by Greg from Octopus several times and they’re frustrated by this nonsense too. It’s clear this billing was rigged to give unrealistic returns for cheaper generation at our expense (naturally)
The markets easily fixed by making wholesale prices reflect generation source as wind, solar and nuclear are vastly cheaper.
Tldr high prices are caused by us paying gas generation prices for wind generation so someone is making a mint.
Petrol has an energy density of approx 33.7kWh per gallon – e.g if you travel 100 miles on 33.7kWh of energy, the MPGe would be 100MPGe. At 3.5 miles kWh, therfore your MPGe figure is 117.95 MPGe or 28.57 kWh/100miles 0r 285.71 Wh/mile. MPGe, is more a US thing for EV’s and PHEV’s and not typically used in europe, where metric miles (Km)/kWh or Wh/mile (Km) are typically used. 3.5 miles/kWh for 17 pence is cheap motoring, in a car that did 50mpg, the same 3.5 miles would cost just under 41 pence however, it would have been less than half the cost if OVO didn’t change Charge Anytime!
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