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I currently have a Tucson PHEV on 24 hour test and have a few questions for @kezo @JohntheLeg and anyone else who has one.
The car the dealer has given me, whilst brand new, is unfortunately the pre facelift model, so it’s a bit different from what I had researched. They are giving me a facelift one for another 24 hours when I take this one back, but it’s not a PHEV, so my education on PHEVs is right now.
I’ve just been on a decent drive in both EV and Auto (which was mostly EV) and deliberately let the battery run out so that I could then see what it was like on petrol only. All worked fine but I’ve just parked it in the garage with a view to recharging it and the ruddy cable in the car is one that only works in a charging station – not the 3 pin (granny charger) that I expected. This is irritating as tomorrow I wanted to take my wife on our usual ‘local’ journeys on EV mode but now can’t 😡. Two questions;
1) Does the Tucson PHEV come with a charging cable that can be used in a 3 pin plug as standard, or do you have to buy one?
2) There is a third driving mode that I haven’t used yet (Hybrid?), although I think the car may have now been ‘forced’ into it by the battery running out. Is this a mode where the petrol engine charges the battery? If so, if I take it out for a drive tonight (which I intend to do anyway to test the headlights) will I be able to ‘charge’ the battery? Is there a way to do this?
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I do indeed (when my brother-in-law isn’t swanning off in it on holiday!).
@glos-guy I really don’t think you would have any problems.My X6 is mainly used as a ‘Sunday best’ type of car as I use the Grenadier most of the time.
As such the X6 gets periods of being parked up in a shed on the farm buts gets a run out a couple of times per month. Then occasionally down to Heathrow a couple of times per year. Plus occasionally when relatives borrow it to go on holiday. Averaging about 5k miles per year.
Never had any problems DPF/filter wise.
Dave
@BigDave That’s really useful info. Many thanks. If I get an X5 it would be used much as your X6. If I got a diesel one, I’m tempted by the M50d, but the 22” alloys worry me a bit (slightly harsher ride / kerb risk). Have you driven a new generation X5/X6 with the 30d engine? The reviews are all brilliant, so logically that’s the one to get, but I’m wondering how noticeable the extra power and torque of the 40d translates in real life? I came close to buying a new X5 a few months before Covid kicked off. The 40d had just been launched and, at the time, was only £1,500 more than a 30d, which made it a no brainer (the price gap is a lot more now). However, if I get one now it would be a second car, so a used current generation one makes more sense, and there are very few used 40d’s. Most tend to be the 45e PHEV.
Lastly, does your X6 have the M-Sport Pro pack? If so, I’m wondering if the M Sport Exhaust System (which comes with it) sounds good, as I really fancy something with a throaty / raspy exhaust tone (pathetic, I know, at my age, but I had a 750i Sport with a 4.4 litre 8 cylinder engine once, and I was disappointed that it was near silent 😂). An relative of mine had a Porsche Macan GTS with their sports exhaust system and it sounded superb, even at idle!
@kezo We are now back from a short break in Suffolk, so the Tucson has had it’s longest run since we got it.
The outward journey, at a steady 70 mph, including some running around when up there, was 289 miles. I started with a full charge and when I refuelled with petrol and calculated my true mpg equivalent (including charge cost) it came out at 47.7 mpg, which was better than I had expected and pretty much identical to what my previous BMW 2.0i would have achieved on a journey of that length at that steady speed.
The return journey (preceded by a little bit of running around the day before) was 280 miles and was obviously on petrol only. We did the return journey non-stop at a steady 70mph and averaged 36.7 mpg, so 10 mpg less than by not starting with a charged battery (and 10 mpg worse than our previous ICE car would have been). As a point of interest, the fuel computer in the car was spot on for this particular journey (the only time it is, as it wasn’t overstating due to the battery usage). Interestingly, HEV mode wasn’t recharging the battery much (thankfully, as we know it’s damned thirsty when it does)
This trip was the best example yet of the impact of driving our PHEV on a long journey with and without a fully charged battery, and it’s a 10 mpg difference. It’s amazing how much difference it makes hauling a heavy / dead battery around. Conversely, prior to the trip, I’d had a few weeks of multiple shorter journeys that were mostly within the EV range, totalling 320 miles, and the true mpg equivalent if the charge costs were converted to petrol was 61 mpg.
So I now have a very clear view of the difference between varying types of driving and running costs with the PHEV over similar distances (280-320 miles each);
Local journeys, almost all on battery = 61 mpg equivalent
Long journey starting with a charged battery = 47.7 mpg equivalent
Long journey with depleted battery = 36.8 mpg
Two words of caution though. Firstly, all journeys were in warm weather. As we know, battery range is worse in colder weather, so mpg would be worse then. Secondly, the longer journeys were at a steady 70mph. Even creeping up to mid-high 70’s seems to result in a bigger adverse hit to mpg than was the case in previous ICE cars (presumably due to the extra weight), so had I been making more pace on the journey mpg would have been worse.
A useful exercise which has crystallised my thought on how a PHEV suits us (or doesn’t)!
@BigDave That’s really useful info. Many thanks. If I get an X5 it would be used much as your X6. If I got a diesel one, I’m tempted by the M50d, but the 22” alloys worry me a bit (slightly harsher ride / kerb risk). Have you driven a new generation X5/X6 with the 30d engine? The reviews are all brilliant, so logically that’s the one to get, but I’m wondering how noticeable the extra power and torque of the 40d translates in real life? I came close to buying a new X5 a few months before Covid kicked off. The 40d had just been launched and, at the time, was only £1,500 more than a 30d, which made it a no brainer (the price gap is a lot more now). However, if I get one now it would be a second car, so a used current generation one makes more sense, and there are very few used 40d’s. Most tend to be the 45e PHEV. Lastly, does your X6 have the M-Sport Pro pack? If so, I’m wondering if the M Sport Exhaust System (which comes with it) sounds good, as I really fancy something with a throaty / raspy exhaust tone (pathetic, I know, at my age, but I had a 750i Sport with a 4.4 litre 8 cylinder engine once, and I was disappointed that it was near silent 😂). An relative of mine had a Porsche Macan GTS with their sports exhaust system and it sounded superb, even at idle!
No, I haven’t driven any new ones yet, albeit I keep getting invited to their so called ‘BMW VIP events’ (an excuse to try to flog me a new vehicle I fear).
I didn’t opt for the M Sport Pro pack with the throaty exhaust and ‘sporty bits’. Nowadays I am more into comfort than noise/speed. Thus I opted for the Comfort Plus pack, Tech pack and Travel pack, plus a few other individual options. Although I believe some of the available options have changed from my MY24 model.
I honestly thought the M Sport Pro pack was a bit too ‘blingy’. But if sportier looks and a noisier exhaust note are your thing, go for it. Each to their own.
I have enough of loud exhausts on my 1970’s Ford County or 1950’s International tractors!
Also, it handles great on the standard 20inch wheels. Again, I though the larger wheels looked somewhat blingy. Plus I have been told that the ride isn’t as good with the larger wheels.
The BMW dealership keep contacting me, basically wanting to buy my X6 back for ever increasing amounts, as it seems 40d engined vehicles are in much demand. However I not interested in changing at this juncture. Albeit I will probably do so before diesel engines are finally outlawed from sale in new vehicles.
Hope you enjoyed!
On a run, with a depleted battery to start, typically sees me getting mid 40’s but however, I do use the regen paddles to their full extent to slow down and typically stay in level one.
The 40d sounds pretty throaty, as standard and if I’m not mistaken the 40d’s come with active sound, you can listen to till your hearts content, inside the car 😂
@BigDave Lots of savvy buyers are getting upmarket diesels at present with a view to long term ownership. Prices are holding up strongly and good ones are selling fast, even at prices well over 50% of the new cost after 3 years. Contrast that with EVs where you can buy upmarket used ones for as little as 25% of the new cost.
@kezo I don’t like regenerative braking so don’t use it, even on the lowest setting. As far as I’m aware, Active Sound is only fitted on the M models. It’s an artificial engine sound, played through the speakers, whereas the M Sport exhaust system actually physically alters the exhaust tone, especially in Sport / Sport + mode. The M models also have this as standard, but on non-M models it’s only available as part of the extra cost M-Sport Pro pack, which is available at extra cost on all ICE models but not the PHEV.Hi Glos Guy,
Agree. Private buyers are waking up to the advantages of the demonised “fuel of the Antichrist” None better for larger SUVs. My brother had use of an X7 40D for a year. Fabulous until you needed to park it. Since then, a more sensible 3 series touring 30D and now a M40d. He raves about the 40D, but I haven’t experienced it as could not get out again without a hoist. Sounds good from the outside for a diesel.
Hi Glos Guy, Agree. Private buyers are waking up to the advantages of the demonised “fuel of the Antichrist” None better for larger SUVs. My brother had use of an X7 40D for a year. Fabulous until you needed to park it. Since then, a more sensible 3 series touring 30D and now a M40d. He raves about the 40D, but I haven’t experienced it as could not get out again without a hoist. Sounds good from the outside for a diesel.
I’d never use 7 seats (rarely use 4), so the extra size (and cost) of an X7 would be a waste. Besides, I dislike the look of the X7 and much prefer the X5. Someone at the physio centre that I take my wife has an 3 Series M40d Touring which, I must say, looks fabulous in a striking blue with red brake callipers, but I’ve not heard it running. The owner used to have an M3 Touring, so I’m guessing that they don’t feel that it’s much of a step down!
Morning Glos-Guy
I visted family over the weekend, as I do each month. I charged the battery at my mums and filled up ready for my return journey yesterday, as fuel is often 3-4pl cheaper up there.
As mentioned before even with a full charge, I drive back in HEV mode and let the car go into EV mode if it wants and then when, I’m closer to home, I use up any remaining battery, if there is any.
Around half way of the 185 mile journey back, I pulled over to get a can out of the coolbox and thought I’d take a quick pic, the battery was hovering around 3/4 full, which, I thought I’d got in the pic. 17 miles from home, I switched to EV, so t use up the remaing juice. I have charged for a while this morning, so the 2nd pic, is remaing fuel range -21 miles. My overall journey registered 47.5mpg, when pulling on the drive, which I find is a better outcome, than if you used the full battery in full, at start of journey.
I find it rather odd, doing a journey in HEV, rather than using the battery at the start yeilds better results, but I have cross referenced it the last 3-4 times by filling up the next day and doing the calculations.
@Kezo I thought previously you’d calculated that auto was better than HEV mode when driving beyond the EV range.
I think I’m correct in saying – always best to save EV mode with the aim of arriving at home with depleted battery. But I’m more confused about when to use HEV vs AUTO, albeit mine will be the Sportage.
@kezo Your overall mpg is about the same as I achieved recently on a 280 mile journey, starting with a full charge. I put the car in Auto (rather than use up EV miles first) but made sure that I had used up all the EV juice by the end of the journey. I can’t remember what the trip computer said but, as we know, it’s irrelevant when the battery is charged as it takes no account of charge costs. On the return journey, with no charge, economy was 10 mpg worse. Although I worked it out manually, the car trip computer was actually accurate (first time ever 😂).
We have another holiday in a few weeks time, so I’m going to do the same exercise, but thereafter I’m not working out mpg any more as I find it too depressing and too much faff having to factor in charge costs to get an accurate picture. Over a full year I know that miles on EV mode are very cheap. Mid range journeys starting with a full charge are OK, as long as you don’t go over 70 mph – and mpg on any journey with no charge is poor. For my next car I’d like to go back to a trip computer that gives you accurate mpg information!
One thing I have noticed though is that, even though it’s hot, I’m not getting near the quoted 38 mile EV range. Low to mid 30s is about my max, less in the winter.
@Kezo I thought previously you’d calculated that auto was better than HEV mode when driving beyond the EV range. I think I’m correct in saying – always best to save EV mode with the aim of arriving at home with depleted battery. But I’m more confused about when to use HEV vs AUTO, albeit mine will be the Sportage.
It’s a learning curve and a never ending one at that! Think of me, as your guinea pig 😂
What, I am finding is, it’s better on longer journeys not to use all the EV range straight off and to use whats remaining on the last leg of the journey home. I find this weird, but it is more economical doing it this way for some reason.
Obviously, if you have run about on holiday say and you can’t charge freely or no more than price cap for your return home, you most likely would have used what the car has gained during the drive, you won’t have any EV range left to switch to – if that makes sense.
EV – running locally at home or whilst at holiday destination.
HEV – will drive as hybrid and hold most of battery charge, you start off with and switch to EV closer to home to use remaining range.
Auto – The car decides whats best and this varies what speed or throttle position, so will likely use up more EV range on a longer journey.
Last time I came back motorway and from memory, I got 48mpg in HEV and this time was 60 – 70mph A roads and landed on the drive at 47.5mpg in HEV mode. If I remember in 3 weeks, I’ll come back in Auto mode and see how it compares to previous results, but these aren’t too dissimilar to the Hybrid, which I’m pleased with, as it’s still more economical than the Tucson ICE I had on these journeys.
At a guess from the fuel guage reading and previous fill ups, it’ll cost £10 – £12 in fuel and a free charge at mums (£2.30) 😂
Going from mine, is much hillier and my battery is around 22%, with all the running about locally I do on Fridays and I leave after collecting daughter and I get c42mpg, so average around 45mpg for the whole trip.
It takes some getting use to and tral and error, but you’ll get it 🙂
@kezo Your overall mpg is about the same as I achieved recently on a 280 mile journey, starting with a full charge. I put the car in Auto (rather than use up EV miles first) but made sure that I had used up all the EV juice by the end of the journey. I can’t remember what the trip computer said but, as we know, it’s irrelevant when the battery is charged as it takes no account of charge costs. On the return journey, with no charge, economy was 10 mpg worse. Although I worked it out manually, the car trip computer was actually accurate (first time ever
). We have another holiday in a few weeks time, so I’m going to do the same exercise, but thereafter I’m not working out mpg any more as I find it too depressing and too much faff having to factor in charge costs to get an accurate picture. Over a full year I know that miles on EV mode are very cheap. Mid range journeys starting with a full charge are OK, as long as you don’t go over 70 mph – and mpg on any journey with no charge is poor. For my next car I’d like to go back to a trip computer that gives you accurate mpg information! One thing I have noticed though is that, even though it’s hot, I’m not getting near the quoted 38 mile EV range. Low to mid 30s is about my max, less in the winter.Depending where you stay, it might be worth charging the day before you come home (pack an extension lead if in challet), as long as your not paying over the odds >45ish pence, it’ll prob net you better overall journy cost results.
If I left mums on EV, as I did not that long ago, i’d get 38-42 miles. Locally I’m getting 34 maybe 35 due to the mountain I climb to get hme everyday.
Final running costs update as I can’t be bothered to work them out any more (I do miss in car fuel computers on ICE cars that give you an accurate mpg reading) 😂
269 mile round trip (short break) starting with a full charge worked out at 40.84 mpg total equivalent. Final 100 mile run on petrol only (depleted battery, so fuel computer accurate) 33.8 mpg.
Total running costs over first 7,000 miles £917.14 which is 13 pence per mile. Based on current petrol costs that equates to 45.38 mpg. Not bad, but I’d hoped for better in return for the faff of charging.
Final running costs update as I can’t be bothered to work them out any more (I do miss in car fuel computers on ICE cars that give you an accurate mpg reading)
269 mile round trip (short break) starting with a full charge worked out at 40.84 mpg total equivalent. Final 100 mile run on petrol only (depleted battery, so fuel computer accurate) 33.8 mpg. Total running costs over first 7,000 miles £917.14 which is 13 pence per mile. Based on current petrol costs that equates to 45.38 mpg. Not bad, but I’d hoped for better in return for the faff of charging.What the Tucson misses compared to other PHEV’s is both mpg and kWh readings for a journey.
To be honest, I don’t find the fuel computer accurate at all, even in my previous Tucson ICE it under read by the time you did the fill to fill calculations. However we live and learn and your no wose off which is the main thing.
I will stop calculating the way I do in 6 days time when the car hits 12 months old. Given I have done a spread sheet (which I should have shared), I will carry on calculating, but rather than keep journeys seperate by filling up for each one, I will drop back to tank to tank refill calculations.
I sit back sometmes and thin, I should have gone with at least double the EV range, but from memory only the Tiggy was availble and in mind sits below the Tucson, that remain a damn good family car if nothing else!
Final running costs update as I can’t be bothered to work them out any more (I do miss in car fuel computers on ICE cars that give you an accurate mpg reading)
269 mile round trip (short break) starting with a full charge worked out at 40.84 mpg total equivalent. Final 100 mile run on petrol only (depleted battery, so fuel computer accurate) 33.8 mpg. Total running costs over first 7,000 miles £917.14 which is 13 pence per mile. Based on current petrol costs that equates to 45.38 mpg. Not bad, but I’d hoped for better in return for the faff of charging.What the Tucson misses compared to other PHEV’s is both mpg and kWh readings for a journey. To be honest, I don’t find the fuel computer accurate at all, even in my previous Tucson ICE it under read by the time you did the fill to fill calculations. However we live and learn and your no wose off which is the main thing. I will stop calculating the way I do in 6 days time when the car hits 12 months old. Given I have done a spread sheet (which I should have shared), I will carry on calculating, but rather than keep journeys seperate by filling up for each one, I will drop back to tank to tank refill calculations. I sit back sometmes and thin, I should have gone with at least double the EV range, but from memory only the Tiggy was availble and in mind sits below the Tucson, that remain a damn good family car if nothing else!
Do the PHEVs that state mpg and kWh calculate the mpg on the petrol only mileage (making the figures accurate) or on the total mileage, including miles driven on electric (as per the Tucson – making the figures inaccurate)?
Funnily enough, on the few occasions that I have done a tank to tank refill following long runs with a depleted battery from start to finish, the mpg stated in the car has been accurate (unfortunately 😂)
I agree about the Tiguan. Even though it’s bland (as per all new generation VWs) I prefer the exterior look of it to the Tucson, but the interior (where we spend our time) falls short in comparison. I never found any of our 4 previous Tiguans quite as dull to drive as the Tucson though, but the driver aid systems work far better in the Hyundai, albeit that advantage is offset by all the ruddy bings and bongs and the fact that you can only cancel some of them.
On that note, I read something online that you can ask the dealer to disable them if you sign a disclaimer? Have you heard that? When booking the car in for its first service (before I read this) I asked if they could do anything and they said no, even when I said that it would stop me getting another Hyundai as I found them so irritating and distracting!
Do the PHEVs that state mpg and kWh calculate the mpg on the petrol only mileage (making the figures accurate) or on the total mileage, including miles driven on electric (as per the Tucson – making the figures inaccurate)? Funnily enough, on the few occasions that I have done a tank to tank refill following long runs with a depleted battery from start to finish, the mpg stated in the car has been accurate (unfortunately ) I agree about the Tiguan. Even though it’s bland (as per all new generation VWs) I prefer the exterior look of it to the Tucson, but the interior (where we spend our time) falls short in comparison. I never found any of our 4 previous Tiguans quite as dull to drive as the Tucson though, but the driver aid systems work far better in the Hyundai, albeit that advantage is offset by all the ruddy bings and bongs and the fact that you can only cancel some of them. On that note, I read something online that you can ask the dealer to disable them if you sign a disclaimer? Have you heard that? When booking the car in for its first service (before I read this) I asked if they could do anything and they said no, even when I said that it would stop me getting another Hyundai as I found them so irritating and distracting!
I believe so because it keep the petrol engine and electric motor/battery seperate E.G on a trip PHEV will drive as an hybrid (some petrol/some battery), in the Tucson it’s difficult to define that, as we have no idea of how many lites of fuel and kW’s of electricity that trip has taken, only an overall combined figure. A car that keeps those entities seperate gives the number of kW’s used and fuel used for thar trip, including an overall combined figure, we can define more accuratey the car used 10 gallons + 10 kW’s of electricity for that 200 mile trip say. Infact most PHEV’s on the market do it this way.
I’m glad I set up a spreadsheet for economy because it give an accurate look at one way trips, combined trip and local based on the tank being refilled each time. The negative is, I’m always carrying a full tank which adds weight unnessarily, so will now drop to tank to tank.
Ive had two Tucsons, so I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like it however, the right colour is a must to tone down the overly chiseld look. I maintain its an excellent family A to B car rather than a drivers car. I have the 220 for thatand equally I was was in nort Staffs pro’s motorcross team till the age of 38-39 from which I started out at the age of 9 and equally took part in rallying, but I gid come from a family with a liong list of racing. and Ive had a lot of quick road cars, but the Tucson remains part of a limited choice to get my daughter to and from safely and comfortably and if I’m being honest the 2.5l Rover 75 I bought, and ended up giving my eldest daughter, did that in even more comfort and without the fecking bing bongs😂
It is me who said the dealer can disable (AC-B3) if you sign a disclaimer, although how that would appeal to Motability is another matter and it might also disable stuff you want on the same bus . I’m actively looking buying a OBD11 dongle or prograaming the safety systems off or at least the sound off with one, in similar to how you can activate deactivate functions on BMW quite easily, however Hyunda’s software is nothing like european cars. Keep you posted on this one.
Heres an example of an i10/20 at an Hyundai workshop.
@kezo The Tucson was serviced in the week and had a software update. Unfortunately it hasn’t resolved any of the many things that irritate me about the car;
Still no option to change the parameters of the Speed Limit Warning so that it doesn’t bing four times for just going 1mph over the speed limit 🤬
Turning off the above with a long press of the right rocker switch still often mutes the radio (or active phone call) instead (or as well) 😡
I’m still getting bings (higher pitch than the speed limit ones) that I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are for, as no message or warning flashes up with them 🤬
I still get error messages when trying to use Amazon Music, so am still pretty much restricted to just using the radio 😡
On the positive side, at least the car came back clean (well, the outside was, they didn’t bother to vacuum the inside) 😂
I’ll be picking up my Sportage PHEV next month.
I’ve had an electrician fit an “EV rated” outdoor socket. He’s put in a new consumer unit and dedicated trip switch for the outdoor socket, so I think I’ve done everything to prevent any risk involved with charging.
The only thing I need to do is pick a charging cable. I’ll likely be leaving the cable outside. I.e. plugged in to the socket (it’s lockable) and buy a holder for the end that plugs in to the vehicle.
I’ve done some research on cables, but just wanted some advice on which brand and features you guys would recommend.
@gilders That all sounds very sensible. As for charging cables, the ones that @kezo and I use have a protector on the end that plugs into the car, but these came free with the car. As for aftermarket ones I’m afraid I have no idea, but @kezo is your man for anything electrical, so I’m sure will be along soon. Enjoy your new car!
Thanks @Glos Guy , I do regret not ordering the Volvo V60, but the upfront costs and running cost of the Sportage was too hard to ignore (as well as my wife’s reservations about the Volvo).
Wottz seems to be a recommended cable, but expensive, so I’ll wait for @kezo’s opinion.
Ended you going for https://www.cord-ev.com/cord-plus-portable-ev-charger-3-pin-5m.html
Not the cheapest, at £116 (with discount code), but the 3yr warranty was what clinched it for me.As mentioned earlier, I’ll be sticking to my 20p/kW tariff, rather than an off peak EV tariff. The charger has a delay function and you can alter the charging current (6A/8A/10A) too.
Could either of you give me a “Quick Start” guide for a basic charge?
I’m hoping it’s just a case of, plug both ends in, and switch on the socket and, possibly, cable?
Hopefully I won’t have to mess around with the multi media system, or App.Thanks
@gilders I can’t advise on your specific charging cable, but with my Hyundai one I have it set to the fastest charge speed (10A?) which works fine on a normal socket. The plug gets very very slightly warm but nowhere near hot. I simply plug in to the wall socket and flick the socket switch on first, then plug the other end in to the car. That’s it. A second or two after you plug in you’ll hear the charger end activate in the socket and there will be a ping as the battery charge and charge time flash up on the instrument cluster. I just leave the car and wait until I get an alert on the app that it’s charged. Alternatively, you can check progress on the app or every time you open the door the charge status will show on the instrument cluster. Empty (well, 15% is empty) to full takes 6.5 hours. After the charge has completed, I flick off the switch to the wall socket, unplug the plug end of the charge cable and coil it up as I walk towards the other end when I simply unplug from the car and put the cover on the socket and shut the flap. It’s dead easy, just a faff compared to a pure ICE car IMHO.
). We have another holiday in a few weeks time, so I’m going to do the same exercise, but thereafter I’m not working out mpg any more as I find it too depressing and too much faff having to factor in charge costs to get an accurate picture. Over a full year I know that miles on EV mode are very cheap. Mid range journeys starting with a full charge are OK, as long as you don’t go over 70 mph – and mpg on any journey with no charge is poor. For my next car I’d like to go back to a trip computer that gives you accurate mpg information! One thing I have noticed though is that, even though it’s hot, I’m not getting near the quoted 38 mile EV range. Low to mid 30s is about my max, less in the winter.
269 mile round trip (short break) starting with a full charge worked out at 40.84 mpg total equivalent. Final 100 mile run on petrol only (depleted battery, so fuel computer accurate) 33.8 mpg. Total running costs over first 7,000 miles £917.14 which is 13 pence per mile. Based on current petrol costs that equates to 45.38 mpg. Not bad, but I’d hoped for better in return for the faff of charging.- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.