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November 29, 2021 at 2:12 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170305
How can you tell if tyres are all season as opposed to summer? Do they have a specific code?November 29, 2021 at 1:46 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170302
No assumptions made, all 3 were 4 wheel drive, I could see quite clearly as a drove past them. I was talking about all season tyres vs summer tyres (not winter tyres) so no more expensive to fit and of course 4 wheel drive will have a greater advantage over 2 wheel drive on the same tyres, but that’s not what I said!
Appologies – I misunderstoodNovember 29, 2021 at 1:33 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170298
Strange then that this morning pulling out of a car park with a slope entrance/exit I had to drive on the wrong side to get out as the line of cars were stuck including an X1, Tiguan and a Q5, all slithering about and getting nowhere. But what do I know! I guess I’ll just make do with my fwd all season shod car.
You are making the incorrect assumption that most people do, that anything that looks like an SUV must be a four wheel drive. The reality is that the majority nowadays are two wheel drive, so have no advantage over any other type of car
Winter tyres clearly make a massive difference to any type of car, but most people wouldn’t be prepared to go to the expense given how rare snow is in most of the country. It certainly wouldn’t be worth my while so, on that basis, on the very rare occasion that we have snow I’m pleased that if I have to drive a car with all weather or even summer tyres that I have 4WD.
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I also agree with Tim. It’s not discrimination, it’s business. What Motability should do IMO is widen the 3 month order window to 6 months for those brands where 6 months is an optimistic lead time at present. However, as we know, lease extensions are a nice earner for Motability, so I guess they have no incentive to do so.November 28, 2021 at 7:20 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170240
My father had a Series III Land Rover LWB which he changed from a 3 door to a 5 door and made many modifications to, he drove it from London all the way to Sudan, nothing could stop it! I loved the fact that you could change it easily into a pickup, 3 door, 5 door, single cab, dual cab.
That’s not all that you could convert them to Masquerade. Friends of ours converted one to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and drove it from the Isle of Wight to Australia (obviously the last bit was on a ship). They wrote a book about it called ‘Port Out, Starboard Home’.November 28, 2021 at 5:40 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170236
you cant beat a good old landy lol. used to love going out in one in germany when the snow came down, now that was proper snow.
I’ve never driven a Defender (although we are seeing loads of the new ones around here) but I have driven Freelanders, Evoque and Range Rovers on off road courses at Land Rover experience events, as well as on the road. As you say, you can’t beat them on the rough stuff. The only reason that I’ve never bought one is that I have always found that the peerless off road performance (which I would never use) always seems to result in a compromise on the road, and that’s where I spend my driving time!November 28, 2021 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170235
All about the tyres. Check out bjorn nyland in his 2wd kona electric taking on the Norwegian winter. Car passed that test with flying colours. agree on the rwd bmw’s lol. Once got so stuck I had to be towed!
I’m no expert on EV’s, but I think I read that they do have an advantage in snow as the very heavy battery is in the bottom of the car and generally between the front and rear axles, so you get a good spread of weight in an already heavy car.
Whilst I love BMW’s, and the last 5 Series that I had was the closest to perfection of any of the several hundred cars that I’ve driven, it was cr@p in snow. Like you, I got stuck in a car park once!November 28, 2021 at 5:23 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170233
4 wheel drive, AWD, doesn’t really matter, I’ve just been out in my front wheel drive with all season tyres on in the same thick snow and no problems at all, it’s all about the tyres.
Not entirely. Whilst it is indeed the case that tyres make a massive difference (at the first sign of snowfall people always trot out the videos of stopping distances in a 4WD with summer tyres and a 2WD with winter tyres), having traction on all 4 wheels does make a difference. Having had front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and four wheel drive cars I know which I would rather have in winter conditions.
Rear wheel drive cars are hopeless in snow, especially on inclines. Scary in fact. Front wheel drive is certainly better with the weight of the engine over the driven wheels, but can still struggle in certain conditions and you have to be very careful with the throttle. Four wheel drive, whilst not foolproof, does give you an extra degree of sure-footedness. You still need to have your wits about you, but you get far less scrabble when pulling away and better traction cornering and manoeuvring.
Our previous Tiguan (which, I should stress, I didn’t like) was great in the snow. In the work car park where every other car (FWD and RWD) was struggling to get moving I was able to park, manoeuvre and pull away with no fuss at all (other than the shouts of ‘show off’ from colleagues 😂 )November 28, 2021 at 1:45 pm in reply to: Hope I won’t regret ordering 2-wheel drive this time 🙈🤷🏻♀️😄 #170217
As you know Rachel, ours is 4WD, but I wouldn’t be going out in that! Both our elderly mothers are still alive, plus we have two adult children that live away from home and I like to have the ability to get out safely in the event of any of them having an emergency, but snow never lasts for long (even ‘up North’ 😂) so it’s best to stay tucked up in the warm. I always take the view that I might know how to drive safely in those conditions, but many people don’t and it can sometimes be impossible to avoid them!
Sue – I’m so sorry to hear about all of your challenges. I have two adult children and I worry about them both, even though they are in good health! In spite of everything that you are facing you sound like an extremely sensible and measured person, so I’m sure that you will have no issues with getting what you genuinely deserve.
Although PIP is a dirty word for most people, there was a lot of abuse under DLA and things needed to change. However, many disabled people find the PIP process overwhelming and that’s not right. Clearly you aren’t one of them though, so if you want a new car then I wouldn’t be worrying about ordering one. How long you will wait for the car is another matter!November 27, 2021 at 7:17 pm in reply to: Worth entering Motability scheme with 1 year left on allowance? #170179
My son receives DLA with the higher rate mobility component. His allowance ends in Dec ’22 and I will be applying to have it renewed. I am thinking of getting a new car under the Motability scheme, but with the lengthy delays that we are currently experiencing with new cars I may only receive the car a few months before the allowance expires, depending, of course, on the car I order. I am interested in a VW Touran SEL, but have been quoted waiting times of at least 35 weeks by the dealership. This means that I would receive the car in August at the earliest. I am fairly confident that his allowance will be renewed as he has a lifelong condition and his mobility hasn’t changed significantly over the last three years, but there is a possibility that the mobility component of his award may be reduced to the lower rate. If that happens I will need to return the car and the lease will, overall, work out to be quite expensive due to the advance payment, which on the Touran, is £3,549. Is there a possibility that all or part of the AP would be refunded to me in this case after the car is returned? Many thanks.
As Joss says, Motability will give you a definitive answer but, for what it’s worth, I’m pretty sure that you would get a pro rata refund of your AP (not the full amount, but most of it in the example you quote). If they didn’t do this, anyone with less than the full 3 years to run on their entitlement would be taking far too much of a risk ordering a car.
What you will have to be careful about is any factory options that you add. Under a normal early termination this isn’t refunded on a pro-rata basis.
i did temp work for derby pct and emas ambulance service at different times quite a few years ago admitedly but in both roles i was posting the fleet cars to either wages or perks as some posts attracted a company car. also many nursing staff went purely bank so they could pick and choose their hours etc. it was a scam basically they got paid more than a regular scale with less responsibility and more flexibility. the nhs could save a fortune by recruiting a pool of surplus staff to cover absence and do away with bank altogether but its a cosy monopoly run by ex nhs nurses and hr/union staff. i did a cost analysis based on the trusts average bank usage and they could have saved a fortune but hr and the unions kicked off about it. 3 weeks later they decided they didnt need temp post i was filling although the woman i was standing in for was still on maternity leave and they advertised it again 2 weeks later. i am afraid a lot of the nhs’s woes are self inflicted.
Well said Mitch. I completely agree. I was blighted by the ‘bank’ issue as well. I’m glad that I’m not the only person on this forum who has first hand experience of working in this environment but, of course, there are always those who know far more! There’s an awful lot more that I could say about what I learned but it’s best left unsaid, other than that your final comment is so true and the pedestal that the NHS has been put over the last few years will do nothing to address these issues.
Your right about vacancies but that has been a recent phenomenon, linked to Brexit among other issues. However vacancies in the NHS are endemic and in the past the stop gap was nurses from the Philippines etc. The lowest pay band for a nurse is just £20000 and many auxiliary staff are on less. Without excessive overtime their remuneration, given what their responsibilities are, is not generous.
I don’t disagree Daf but, as you will know, they don’t stay on £20k for long. Experienced nurses earn considerably more. Then, of course, there’s the pay increments structure that gives them increases that, unlike in the private sector, aren’t performance related. Plus, of course, the excellent pension scheme. Don’t get me wrong, they do a great job that, as I said earlier, most of us wouldn’t want to do, but I simply don’t buy the line that they are poorly paid. As I also said, Care Workers are a different matter altogether. Appalling pay and none of the benefits.
In fact Reg, having just had a quick look on Autotrader there are plenty at that price or even more (high mileage ones at half that price, but I’m guessing that’s not the case with yours), which makes me think that the price that they first gave you was an error. It wouldn’t have gone up in value by £5,500 in a few months.
My PIP says ‘on going”‘for 10 years ,then a light touch review.Was the term ‘indefinite’ for those on dla?
It was my wife’s first PIP application, moving over from DLA. Not sure if that helps?
I wonder if they gave you the wrong price the first time Reg? In any event, Motability ask crazy money for cars with no warranty. Are Seat dealers asking £18,500 for a 5 year old Alhambra, as that would be a comparable price given that it would come with a warranty and you could negotiate the price down?
Hi Glos Guy Just a quick one as I know I can ramble but when you say “indefinite award” have they change that definition or do you mean like the award I have of 10 years as that is about as indefinite you can get these days. 😢
It was a few years ago now Chris, but the revised letter after the Mandatory Reconsideration said something like ‘indefinite with the earliest review in 10 years’, which I take to mean that it won’t necessarily happen then, if at all. Sounds like the same as you have. As it happens my wife’s condition has deteriorated a lot since she was awarded PIP and she can’t even stand unaided now, let alone walk a short distance, and she’s now a full time wheelchair user. Consequently we aren’t concerned about it as she would easily qualify. The only worry is if they means test it in the future, which would be deeply unfair but would see her lose her entitlement.
Well done Gareth. It’s such good news in the current climate just to hear that someone has received their new car, let alone that they are so pleased with it. I couldn’t be without heated seats either! Enjoy the car.
Glos Guy – I’m fast approaching the point of not being able to get to work independently, I already have a carer who wheels me over to work, helps set up, gets me settled and then goes back to the car and waits until I have finished when he comes and collects me again for the majority of my shifts. The few remaining shifts where I don’t have that cover are becoming an issue though despite my employer really thinking out of the box to try to overcome the challenges, we’ve sorted one shift where my youngest son drops me literally to the door and then picks me up later which leaves two shifts which are troublesome. I’m fast coming to the conclusion that my working days may well be coming to an end, even on the limited hours I do now it is having a really awful impact on the progress of my conditions and ultimately, what I am able to do and it feels like I am hanging on by my finger tips to the little I can actually do for myself, including talking (if I push too much, I not only lose the use and control of my limbs but also my speech). As for Motability, I do plan to have another word with them but with the delays in vehicles arriving, I could well be getting close to or actually have less than a year until my PIP review and despite my limitations and future prognosis, I don’t really want to take it for granted and assume that another award will be given.
Hi Sue. I’m so sorry to hear about your challenges. I am full of admiration for your attitude though. You clearly are a fighter and determined to ‘keep going’, especially when it comes to work, rather than roll over and give in. There comes a point though when you have to listen to your body and focus on your safety. Only you will know when that is.
As for your PIP entitlement, it very much sounds as though you would qualify again at your assessment. As we know, many who should qualify don’t. I happen to believe that this is often down to the poor quality of their written application rather than, as some suggest, some master plan of an evil government to deprive disabled people of their benefits. My wife is very bright, but was overwhelmed with the PIP application process and handed it to me! I researched it all to death and purchased the invaluable ‘Disability Rights Handbook’ from Disability Rights U.K. I was working at the time so only had the evenings to complete the application, but it took me a full week to complete it to a level of thoroughness that would have made a rejection near impossible.
The key thing (especially if you have a condition that has good and bad days, such as MS) is to answer all questions referring to the worst of your bad days. That’s perfectly legitimate. Even if you can walk the critical distance that is the show stopper for higher rate mobility (can’t remember what it is, but it’s very short), if there is any chance that you might stumble or fall then you cannot walk that distance safely and should answer so.
Even though my wife was granted the maximum PIP award for both daily living and Mobility, it was for around 3 years. Most would be OK with that, but I asked for a Mandatory Reconsideration. My argument was that unless they knew of any new medical evidence to suggest that my wife’s condition would improve (when factually it never does – it only gets worse), she should not be subjected to the stress and anxiety of going through the process again in 3 years time. This was successful and it was revised to an indefinite award.
There are various charitable organisations that will help with PIP applications, but the quality varies. The husband of someone who used to work for me used one of them and was unsuccessful. As a result I helped them and the second time he was successful. So I think the key is to research thoroughly, ask for assistance with the application if needed and challenge a poor decision. Good luck with it.
I’d be interested to know why if it’s so well remunerated there are 98000 unfilled vacancies?
There are over 1 million job vacancies in the U.K. at present and the NHS is a major employer (1.2 million employees) so I’m not surprised at that figure. They are also jobs that require a lot of training, so difficult to recruit in a hurry. To take just one example – GP’s. It’s no wonder that there’s a shortage when 9 out of 10 of them work part time!
Hi folks, my current lease runs til July so I can order in March but is there any way to find out what cars may be coming to the scheme? Having just seen the news about the VW ID. 3 coming off the scheme for now I’m suddenly limited to maybe one or 2 cars however, I’ve seen the Kia ev6 and the Ioniq 5 both have trims under the price cap and I’m currently hoping that they make their way onto motability. Any help is greatly appreciated and received.
Hi James. Motability have a list of cars that they are ‘considering’ which the call centre staff have access to and are allowed to share with customers. However, most of the cars on this list never make it on to the scheme, so it’s a bit pointless. For example, the Toyota Highlander was on this list for around 6 months. In the end it was removed from the list, reason being “it didn’t meet the criteria for the scheme” which, with a start price of around £50k anyone could have worked out 🙄
I’m Wondering what the difference is between the sale value of a 3 year old car to a 5 year old is.
With the average Motability car I would say a lot less than the extra £6k plus that they’ve raked in with the extra sacrificed benefits plus, of course, they are supplying these customers with a new car far less frequently, so less early years depreciation. Elliot is spot on. The current situation suits Motability nicely.
Thanks for sharing that Lord Muc. That’s an incredible scheme. Interesting that you can have “any car”, obviously at a cost. That’s what I was used to in my company car days and why I’ve never understood the price caps on Motability. I don’t understand how it includes Company Car Tax, as that’s a personal tax liability, but they’ve obviously found a work around. Of course, that’s on top of a gold plated pension scheme.
Having previously employed a lot of NHS staff, I can never understand how the public fall for the ‘poverty’ claim. Yes, they do a great job that most people wouldn’t want to do, but most are very well paid (including nurses) and have fantastic benefits packages. Care workers are another matter altogether. Most are on the minimum wage (or thereabouts) and, working for private companies, don’t have any of the benefits on top.
What gets me is why lower the ap for the id3, which makes it a very good choice if you are in the market for a EV, for a month or so, then remove it.
Odd isn’t it. This is why I’m not 100% convinced that the cull is entirely down to the chip shortage, because the issues facing most manufacturers have been the same for many months now.
I don’t think we should be complaining about Motability in any part of the current situation, their hands are tied and they’re at the mercy of the manufacturers. Their entire business model is under threat the longer this persists, they are reliant on manufacturers selling cheap to take up excess capacity and stock. Without that excess there’s no business reason to sell cheap cars to Motability. This whole situation is down to manufacturers failing to plan ahead or change their just in time supply chain, they just assumed that the chip manufacturers would be able to start churning out chips at the drop of a hat when in fact they had reconfigured their lines to other products in order to keep working.
Whilst I agree with your final point about manufacturers messing up chip supply Peter, I believe that your comments about the Motability model are wide of the mark.
It is not the case that manufacturers just use Motability to take up excess capacity and stock. In fact the vast majority of manufacturers never have excess stock as most cars nowadays are built to order, not speculatively. Even when dealers have cars in stock, they are often reluctant to let them go to Motability customers, preferring to get the customer to make a factory order! It is also quite common for new cars to appear on the Motability scheme within a few months of being launched when retail demand is still very high. All businesses rely on turnover. Whilst they make less money per Motability sale than per retail sale, all the Motability sales add up to a sizeable turnover.
In the current climate, where demand is exceeding supply, manufacturers can pick and choose which segments they prioritise and it is no surprise that Motability sales will fall by the wayside. However, whilst the chip shortage is undoubtedly responsible for the majority of the cull in vehicle choice, I can’t help but feel that there are other factors at play here and we may be seeing a repositioning of the scheme. I sincerely hope that I am wrong, but only time will tell.