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@fadetogrey you’re going from a great car to an absolutely outstanding car.
And that’s that 100% to 1%. And some strangeness. Left home with 100% = 305 miles.
Interesting that the GOM stated 305 miles, Des, which is probably about 70 miles less than the wltp. Whereas the E3008 always displays the wltp (327 miles and more) after every top up to 100%. That fuels our disappointment when the range plummets but probably shows how dumb the car is. On the contrary, the Scenic looks to have a real world figure already considered, which is great.
Declan the e3008 will always show 326, as you say it ain’t smart enough. The Kona would always adjust my range after a full charge and the scenic does the same.
Ps I ment to say this about something you mentioned a while ago. My partner also has severe anxiety in the car, all cars. It’s a recent thing of about a year and tbh it’s causing a bit of grief between us.
Cheers folks. The car was absolutely faultless in that near 5 hour drive. All driving aids spot in and so comfortable.
@declan something happened when I got to Dublin that made me think of you and your heating issues. The section where I have put **. When I got to Dublin and pulled up at the beach I put my home address in the sat nav and it told me I would need to charge, I refused and after a good few minutes I noticed the car was getting cold, I put my hand over the vent and it was blowing cold air so I turned it off for about 30 minutes and when back on it was warm again.I believe that the car thought I wouldn’t have enough range to get home so has override my settings and turned the heating off. I’m thinking that because it asked me four times to try eco mode because it thought I wouldn’t get home. It is Google software is it is smart lol. Any just a thought incase your car is doing similar. Easy to workout, If you’ve plenty of range does your heat work, if you’re borderline range is it cold?
And that’s that 100% to 1%. And some strangeness.
Left home with 100% = 305 miles. Home to motorway 1mile, motorway to Dublin 101 miles, drive round Dublin 8 miles. Arrived with 48% = 120 miles left. So used 52% and 185 miles. Dry, temp at start 2 deg back at 7 deg. Heat at 21 fan speed 1. Radio on, all on and same way down and back.
So I wasn’t going to get home with this figures. Put home address in satnav and said * i would get home with 2% and would need a charge * . The car must have calculated what I used down and thought I would need a charge. I refused it and sat off.
Arrived home with 8% = 27. Same way home same settings. So 185 miles down and 93 miles back. So that’s strange. When home I head back to the motorway to empty battery. Range disappeared at 8% battery. I turn things off and go to eco mode speed down to55- 60mph and got 13 miles at that speed. Back towards home now at 3% drive around the area for 2 miles AVG speed about 18mph that’s when 1% showed and I took the 1/4 mile home and charged.
Basythe same as the Kona and e3008 12ish miles at reasonable speed and 2-3 at low speeds. No turtle mode, which is strange as both other cars had it so that could lead to a false thinking of there’s more, if it didn’t come on at 1% its not there as the other two would kick in around 3%.
So now I know exactly what I can get, and at those speeds at those distances that good. I’m going to do the same run on Saturday at 65mph.
I done a fair bit of thinking on the way back as it was clear the range wasn’t dropping like going down. I’m now convinced that the Belfast to Dublin road is predominantly up hill, a small gradient but enough to hammer range. Also the way down I know I’d a bit of a tail wind as the wind noise from the mirrors was very noisy going down and on the way back it was road noise that was predominant, so a bit of head wind. Mind it was hard to tell by looking at trees.
Edit. The car has been charging exactly one 2pm-3pm hour and has went from 1 to 9% = 32 miles and will take another 12hrs 13mins to 100%
Edit. Again. 2.8 mipkw whole journey.
Time to empty the battery and see exactly what the range is. Same drive as Kona and e3008. 200 miles motorway at 75 mph, about 10 miles city. Heat 21 fan 2, radio on. It’s frosty 1 degrees, dry with little wind.
Kona done it e3008 couldn’t get back without a charge. Both very similar once range goes to 0. With heating and radio off 12 miles at 60 mph, 4 miles turtle mode. 2 miles speeds up to 50 mph, 2 miles at up to 30. Both gave about 1/2 mile up to about 17 mph then it’s time to charge. Always in winter and both times have been mostly dry.
You might be best just handing the hire car back and getting your pip mobility component money back and hire an EV car yourself with the money until the Aryia is fixed.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>The references to ‘woke’ are a bit irritating. Let’s rewind it back a bit, to a time before the word woke was used as a weapon to beat anyone you us seen as progressive. I have seen the videos of people complaining about the new drink driving laws as well as the introduction of seat belt laws. If the word woke was about then they would have called those bringing in these laws woke.</p>
As someone who has spent a lot of time advocating for disability rights I would be seen as woke. It’s not woke it’s progress. Yes in some cases it has gone to far, but I believe that is more to do with the right and left just being a holes and wanting to irritate each other. Woke people introduced health and safety which stops people dying at work. Woke people introduced equality laws that protected disabled people as well as LGBTQ people whether you like it or not you can’t protect one group of people and ignore others.As for the Jag. Well it’s working, people are talking about them and has anyone even seen a vehicle? No. Most of the cars we drive now would have been a daft concept at one stage only to become a decent practical motors. Where there are companies making big money from branding and marketing they will always be able to convince a company that they need to rebrand. That’s marketing for you. They are good at what they do whether you like it or not.
Me, I prefer the if it ain’t broken don’t fix it. Jaguar is broken and the company are trying to fix it. I think it will work because of the amount of young professionals and media savvy influencers driving range rovers. They want a piece of that market and as a business they will have it even at the expense of a loyal customer base.
Ps switch your bank account for free money, switch your internet/phone providers to save money etc. Stop being loyal to businesses who only see you as a cash cow.
Ele a company sitting on 100s of millions? Fining someone £250 because a my car is rubbish is a bit petty.
Glos guy I was looking at bake book today and two motability customers are returning their cars due to range. Both like mine around 170 miles and I believe Declan may have had enough. I honestly believe that the e3008 is going to change the scheme it’s been that bad.
Even if it had no faults I would not be putting up with a car doing 140-170 miles when manufacturer claims 326.
He entered the pin as he said it was on his computer. I would have needed to go into my phone and open the pin which I didn’t. Id already went through the car and was happy with it, it was also a stock car if that means anything
I just didn’t think about it until I was home.
I’m currently getting 1.7 mipkw so looking at a range of about 120-130 which is shocking.
Good news is I pick the Renault up today and having read the forum this morning one lady was complaining about only getting 235 miles in this cold snap so that is good. Most seem to be in or around 220, and that’s the magic number for me in winter. With 270 in summer. I don’t care if a car claims a range of 500 miles as long as I get 220 and 270 I’ll be happy.
Battery full charge this morning 100% 326 miles. A few runs about the city totaling 12 miles.
Battery now 83% 272 miles left.
AVG speed 8mph 1.7 mipkw.
At those figures I might get about 124 miles from a full charge 😂
Great to hear. It’s a cracking car, just that mine isn’t. And I’ll be honest, I’ve never really been into cars especially how they look, but that Peugeot and TBF all Peugeots are stunning. I’ve been on the FB page mostly just reading and there are plenty of folk who like you are loving the car and have no problems whatsoever.
Have you sussed out it’s quirks yet lol. After the last update ‘ok Peugeot’ has started working a sometimes and when I ask it to turn on drivers heated seat it turns the passenger one on and vice versa. Then the climate buttons under the I toggle. When you turn things on a light comes on to let you know it’s on except for when you turn climate off, that’s when it lights up. A bit back to front tbh. There’s no main switch to turn the interior lights on, they all have to be touched individually, how are you ment to turn the rear interior lights on lol. There’s a few wee other things I can’t remember but it’s french and it’s quirky.
One thing I love mind. I’ve now been in a 3008 and e3008 for about four and a half years and I absolutely love that small steering wheel, every car should have them.
I think what’s happening is that according to the FB page that there is quite a few being terminated. Two definitely on FB although I ain’t looked in quite a while so could be more. I think @declan has spoken with them and is considering a termination. Then the amount of people terminating EVs as it turns out they are just not practical enough for them especially if no home charging.
So I believe that this has led to a strict policy on the £250. As in days gone by they would be reasonable and waive or lower the fee. I think they are taking a hit and don’t like it. They even have there own EV department that deals with EVs and the first question you get asked is it range related.
I will continue, and I will get a refund, because I’m like a dog with a bone when I think someone has tried to stitch me up.
Sent the email off yesterday and just had a call back today to tell me no refund as I’m giving the car back through lose of confidence which requires the £250 fee.
I explained that it’s leaving me in financial hardship which it is this close to Christmas. Tough, and unless Peugeot tells them it can’t be repaired then I’m paying. I explained that it’s your car (motability) which was bought of Hurst and it’s up to you too to sort it out as I’m paying for a car that is rubbish and full of faults which they could not repair in three weeks.
I asked for it to be escalated and they said they will send me out a letter and the bottom of it will explain how to contact the financial ombudsman and that’s all they and I can do.
I really wish I’d enough money to tell them to stick their car up their jaxey. This has really peed me off tbh.
Declan I was reading something on the FB group this morning about the car blowing out cold air, something I noticed myself. They recommend to turn the AC off and to push the recycle? Air button to stop this and keep the car warmer. I have noticed that the AC does tend to stay on and I have to turn it off.
The car didn’t charge last night even though I checked and it said it was charging, so I couldn’t preheat this morning as I was under 50%. TBF within three minutes the car started to blow out warm air and it didn’t take long to heat up.
Declan I forgot to reply. My heating is working fine. Mind tbh as this is my second EV I’ve found the heating to be a bit meh on both. Either to warm or to cold. I find the best for me when I need it is to put it up to 23 and fan 3 and blowing into foot well. That seems to keep the car the ok. And in an EV when its cold your feet or cold, no big roasty ICE next to them lol
Bit peed off this morning with the car not preheating and it being covered in ice, so dug around for any info. In my case the app rarely works as it just keeps stating ‘command in progress’ but never does send the command. The other few times it says ‘command failed’ and it’s turns out that you can not precondition the car if battery is below 50%. How effing useless is that.
So I was hoping to run down a full charge to see what range it gives and now can’t as I have to plug a car in with 43% battery left to defrost it in the morning.
@Ele is this a sales target that runs from beginning of year until end of year? Or are the sales targets in quarters.
My thinking is that as I’m about to renew then in three years time and every three years after that I could be in the best possible position this grab a bargain as it’s end of year and they need to hit sales targets.
I know little about sales and targets tbh. My thinking is they have quarterly targets then if not met a big final push at the last quarter and in particular the end of year November, December.
E 3008 last full charge was 141 miles full to empty and the one before that was 175. It is only getting really cold here from yesterday. Getting about 2 and 2.4.
Well that was all a bit of a pain to order the car. DVLA has my license which they said they needed and my award as it stands only had 11 months left. The salesman man was great (Arron Shelbourne motors Portadown) he said he would put it through and see, and luckily it was excepted and I pick the scenic e-tech Iconic up on Friday.
As for the £250. I put up with a bad car and tried to make it work * but it’s bad. So I jumped through the hoops that they asked me to do then moved the goal posts. I will as advised on here send an email to the CEO and hope to get it back.
* Believe it or not I will miss it. The cabin is just about my idea of perfection. Going on a drive in the countryside at night it is just a beautiful place to sit, when it works lol.
I will update the e3008 thread later on just how bad the car was. Plus all it’s stupid traits.
Also I have done my homework on the scenic on all the forums and FB accounts and yes the car does seem to have a few minor issues but they appear to be fixed quickly and as I say they are minor. Range seems good, comfort good, software seems to work well apart from the app*. The vast majority seem to be enjoying their cars, and that’s all I want to do.
*The app seems to be constantly updated or a few times completely redesigned which to me says they know it’s not great but at least they are trying unlike Peugeot who just don’t give a s.
Have a look to see if there is anything you like that may be due a facelift/redesign as these are the cars that tend to drop in ap and also seem to get offers on.
Lol TBF there are lots of happy folk motoring away in their big sexy french super models.
Mine is one of them but just very high maintenance.
