The lies, falshoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his Government.

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    joss
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    https://boris-johnson-lies.com/  

    Click on link for the list and links to each one.

    1 December 2019“We’re upgrading 20 hospitals and building 40 new ones. And you are going to say, oh, well, it’s only six. Actually, that’s not true.”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“One of the reasons we’re having this election is because we have a Queen’s speech that was blocked by parliament”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“Jeremy Corbyn wants to scrap MI5”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“There will be no tariffs and no checks.”
    Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show

    29 November 2019“40 new hospitals will be built as a result of decisions we’re taking”
    Boris Johnson interview, Nick Ferrari on LBC

    29 November 2019“The NHS, as you know, it’s the biggest increase in living memory, a £34bn increase”

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    fwippers
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    Corbyn only offers false hope. The “good times” will last a matter of months or weeks! But what will follow will be years of further cuts to make good the damage. We can all get a loan and credit card and go mad for a few months or year, then suddenly reality hits and we have to cut back for years to repay the debt.

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    wmcforum
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    Good spot joss and I’m sure there’s many more and many more to come. How do you modify a post?

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    Mike 700
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    Corbyn only offers false hope. The “good times” will last a matter of months or weeks! But what will follow will be years of further cuts to make good the damage. We can all get a loan and credit card and go mad for a few months or year, then suddenly reality hits and we have to cut back for years to repay the debt.

    Your right of course, Corbyn’s Marxist policies will provide more to those on lower incomes and perhaps a lot more to those on benefits, but bribery tends to not last very long, and the ‘chickens will coming home to roost’, as they always have done, and the bribes and benefit increases will only be short term – his declared policies and vast overspending will invariably wreck the economy and bankrupt this country, and the sacrifices made by many over the past nine years of austerity ( which were caused by his party’s economic incompetence over the financial crisis in the first place ) will all be a complete waste, and new generations will begin to pay for his Cloud Cuckoo Land policies – and don’t forget Mr Corbyn , and even more importantly ,cannot carry out the role of Prime Minister if he will not promise to protect the U.K.

    Thinking back on Labour governments , I remember that things were good in 1970, and the economy and housing market was booming, but the militant trade unions soon put paid to that, and due to the politicising of disputes etc,by these union leaders let there be no doubt or ambiguity, we were the sick man of Europe back then!

    The early years of the Heath government coincided with prosperity rising house prices etc., and were part of the ‘never had it so good ‘ era, but by 1973, with inflation rising , the three day week because of the above mainly, and Northern Ireland warming up, things had taken a downturn!

    So Heath was ousted and the Tory Government was replaced by the dull, grey socialist government of Harold Wilson .

    In 1974 Wilson formed a minority government, even though the Tories won more votes!

    Wilson called an election later in 74 and managed a 2 seat overall majority and then held a referendum over our membership of the EEC with two thirds voting to remain.

    Inflation was rising, the economy was stagnating , typically Labour economic mismanagement, so Wilson eventually resigned and Jim Callaghan formed a government which was an unmitigated disaster, with the economy already in trouble , taking a nosedive , “crisis what crisis “ became the now infamous Callaghan slogan , whilst overseeing ‘ the Winter of Discontent ( with rubbish lying and rotting in the streets, and the deceased lying unburied) and then we went through a period of rampant inflation with 15% mortgage rates, ( I was in banking by then, and getting 22% overnight out of New York ) and we began seeing plenty of nonsense from Brussels like butter mountains and wine lakes and kilos and kilometres and double labelling of goods for sale, all on top of an incompetent government, led by yet another incompetent Labour PM

    But to be fair, if it was not for our membership of the European trading block the IMF would likely have sent us packing, and we would have been ruined, so there were definite plusses to membership, but and it is a big BUT, this was membership of a trade cartel, the EEC – it was not , repeat again not the EU as we now know it!

    What some refuse to acknowledge, fingers in their ears singing lalalalala whenever it was mentioned, is that the unelected Communist Union leaders of the day, which Comrade Corbyn would like to bring back to life, had –

    a.brought down the democratically elected Heath government,

    b.they had brought down the democratically elected Callaghan government, ( Callaghan even said that if he was younger he would emigrate-fact not myth ) and

    c. they fully expected to bring down the democratically elected Thatcher government, but this is where they failed and the left cannot & will not forgive her for this and refuse to forget it seems – she stood up to Scargill , Red Robbo & Co, on behalf of the British people, and won!

    Too many gullible soles have been indoctrinated by Socialist fairy tales , but the truth is –

    • In 2008, our precarious position in a ‘limited financial crisis ‘( mainly European not a Global Crisis as Labour like to spin – just check which countries were actually involved ) was down to lack of supervision and naive management of the financial sector, & not just down to the Banks, ( And especially the pure greed by the Labour Government ) & of course their mismanagement of the whole economy, with of course massive overspending & throwing money at the public sector – which is – wait for it ‘Labour’s Client Base’, causing near bankruptcy, it was not ‘greedy, or dishonest bankers, even though the banks were involved.

    • So, there is a salutary lesson to be learned come next Thursday , and that is ‘ 11 years later, we are still paying for the last labour economic disaster’ .

    • The culprits brazenly claimed ( and still do ) , whenever they get in front of a camera, that 13 years of their policies whilst in government were not responsible for the economic mess we’re still in ten years later

    • Not our fault Gov, twas those crooked Tory bankers!

    • Ed Miliband and his spin doctors , claimed ‘ Overspending is not to blame for the debt ‘ – just the same as Tony Blair did.

    • But, It’s nonsense of course: what else creates bad debt other than overspending – Bad weather, The bad debt fairy, Martians?

    • No, the previous Labour government bear a great deal of responsibility for the debt crisis, because they overspent, overspent and yes overspent , whether that was on so called good causes or simply recklessly overspending on their client base, is immaterial.

    • The IMF confirmed (fact again ) that the prosperity that Labour prided itself on, and spun and spun and spun, was in fact a ‘debt-fuelled illusion’, and crucially, it also confirmed that 2007 was the worst year for economic overheating since at least the 1970s.

    • Labour lied to the country about the debt situation and even claimed that “By 2007-08, the public debt was significantly below , the levels inherited in 1997:” -this was a blatant and out & out lie.

    • Anyway, the basic fact was that the Labour government was borrowing like there’s no tomorrow, & after April 2001, Labour simply gave up balancing the budgets

    • The price of debt was kept artificially low, so households borrowed too.

    • It was a mountain of debt, built upon debt. Blair, along with Brown, really does bear huge responsibility for the longest recession in our history, and they are the true cause of cutbacks and austerity, not the current government?

    • Labour under Blair simply abandoned attempts to balance the books, leaving others to try and get us out of the mess they left, and who pays , even now ‘we do’ of course, the poorest in society, and if any one thinks that austerity up to now has been tough, think again, because life has been relatively easy compared to what is likely to happen if the wild Marxist spending agenda proposed by Corbyn and the ever sinister McDonnell (which will saddle us with mind blowing levels of borrowing/debt ) is implemented by Corbyn’s Labour Party , if they get into power!

    • In 1997, Labour inherited borrowing of 3% of GDP, with a Government Debt of 45% of GDP, which amounted to £350Billion & by 2008 it had risen to 5.1% and 51% of GDP amounting to £ 527 Billion.

    That’s me done – hope everyone wins their particular ‘lottery’ next Thursday!

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    mitch
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    your right mike700, i work in accounts and i have done 2 temp contracts in the nhs one with east midlands ambulance service and one with derby pct.the east midland ambulance service was formed from 3 existing county services and i was brought in as a management accountant to help with the amalgamation and produce costings for the savings and future expenditure and the waste was unreal. i was brought in despite them still having all the accounts staff on the books from the county services but they were on gardening leave as they were taking redundancy in due course. so there were 8 accounts staff still being paid to do nowt until they started their redundancy leave etc. technically they should have moved up to nottingham for 6 months until they were made redundant but they were given the option to stay where they were on full pay and in the meantime i was employed at £20 an hour. i did several cost analysis presentations showing waste and where savings could be made including getting rid of me lol. but the unions got involved and it disapeared into a mire of meetings and committees, yet no permanent staff were to lose their jobs just agency and temp staff and 4 fulltime posts created. so why would the unions object you would think. go figure.

    that was some time ago but i bet its not improved.

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    POPS
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    It clearly demonstrates that politics and politicians are no longer fit for purpose, when ordinary voters cannot identify an honest manifesto or a trustworthy party to vote for.

    #98679 Reply

    mitch
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    pops, your right there i dont trust any of them.

    #98680 Reply

    Wigwam
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    And you say, POPS.  I think it’s come about through politics being treated as a lucrative career for people doing a PPE degree, whereas once it was seen as a vocation for people who held true beliefs.

    #98694 Reply

    fwippers
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    Corbyn has sunk to a new low with his lies about the Queens Xmas day message. Totally unfit to be PM. I dont care if he watches it or not, but if he lies about this, then what else?

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    Wigwam
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    I can’t remember the last time I watched the Queen’s traditional  Christmas broadcast, probably when I was growing up, but I was always well aware what time it was on.  For Corbyn not to know suggests he has always rejected the idea of this being a sovereign nation.

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    POPS
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    I’ve got out of the habit of watching the Queen’s speech as I’ve had lots of grandchildren that need to be entertained at that time, but I’m going to make sure I watch the Queen this year as a mark of respect.

    Her Majesty and I are not getting any younger and a few minutes spent renewing an old acquaintance will add to the Christmas cheer.

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    mitch
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    again it just shows how out of touch with reality they are.

    he made sure he got it in that he goes to a shelter though, i bet theyre chuffed he shows up. bet he doesnt do owt though just there for the photo op.

    the only politician ive got time for is a local guy, dennis skinner now he lives his beliefs i dont agree with them but he is at least honest and will listen to you even if you dont agree with him.

    #98728 Reply

    fwippers
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    Watched QT for a bit and fell asleep, utter drivel!!!!

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    Brydo
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    The more you watch the less clear it becomes, I just want the truth is that too much to ask?

    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe

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    Andy
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    Wigwam
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    Did you actually read the article that you posted Andy?

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    kaiser

    The only good Tory is a suposiTory

    #99046 Reply

    Wigwam
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    And labour?

    “Over the last week or so we have seen the Labour Party dream up an extra £58 billion to fund repayments to the so-called ‘WASPI Women’ who lost out on thousands of pounds each when the State Pension age was increased with little notice back in 2010. This policy was intended to keep the UK in line with EU regulations. The struggles of these women, and the stresses on their finances by not being given much notice to plan for this policy change, are not up for debate. By giving this commitment, with a lack of costing provided, Labour has made the same mistake they have made with vast swathes of their manifesto: it would be against EU law to repay these women, therefore should Labour want to move forward with this policy, first, they must actually Leave the EU – which is not Labour’s priority!”

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    fwippers
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    There are now questions for Labour to answer on this so called Brexit Document.

    #99194 Reply

    fwippers
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    Final weekends campaigning which is taking place in poor weather generally speaking. A read of the Sunday papers has proved an interesting read. Poor weather is forecast for polling day which could be a factor. Nevertheless if the weather is very bad it’s not possible to alter polling day.

    #99203 Reply

    joss
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    Postal vote for the win fwippers and have done since it was first allowed.

    Joss
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    #99209 Reply

    Wigwam
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    #99210 Reply

    fwippers
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    Prefer to vote on the day to fully take into account all factors.

    #99285 Reply

    fwippers
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    As we move into the final few days of the election I have headed South to spend a few hours of solitude sitting down with vistas towards the Isle of Wight contemplating which political party shall be successful in securing my vote. Tuesday and Wednesday mark the final two campaigning days. It is possible something may emerge but perhaps many people have decided already which direction they vote.

    #99286 Reply

    Wigwam
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    To be fair, and as the result is a foregone conclusion, and as my vote here will make no difference, I’ve got better things to think about Fwippers. Such as why is my dishwasher leaking?

    #99288 Reply

    Menorca Mike
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    Boris 10 points in lead radio 2 said today

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