The lies, falshoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his Government.

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  • #98479 Reply

    joss
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    https://boris-johnson-lies.com/  

    Click on link for the list and links to each one.

    1 December 2019“We’re upgrading 20 hospitals and building 40 new ones. And you are going to say, oh, well, it’s only six. Actually, that’s not true.”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“One of the reasons we’re having this election is because we have a Queen’s speech that was blocked by parliament”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“Jeremy Corbyn wants to scrap MI5”
    Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show

    1 December 2019“There will be no tariffs and no checks.”
    Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show

    29 November 2019“40 new hospitals will be built as a result of decisions we’re taking”
    Boris Johnson interview, Nick Ferrari on LBC

    29 November 2019“The NHS, as you know, it’s the biggest increase in living memory, a £34bn increase”

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    Mike 700
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    The lies, falshoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his Government –

     

    pale into insignificance when compared to the ‘whoppers’ being peddled by Marxist Leninist Comrade Corbyn ,McDonnell, Macdonald Chacrabati,and the Militant Tendency, and that’s a fact, not an opinion  and I’m not even voting Tory!

     

     

    #98484 Reply

    brydo

    Good spot joss and I’m sure there’s many more and many more to come.

    How do you modify a post?

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    fwippers
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    More electioneering jiggery pokery.

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    brydo

    Do you believe the article fwippers?

    #98498 Reply

    fwippers
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    Some articles are true, some untrue and others partially true. Some have elements of truth, some untruths and others all untrue. In deciding if its true or untrue or partially true one has to decide on the character of the author, the publishing organisation and advertising medium. Only then is it possible to ascertain the degree of truth that in all truthfulness can be attributed to it. So in this case, perhaps with a clear mind one could say with absolute truth that its difficult to say, with any degree of truth, if the said articles are true, untrue or contain any degree of truthfulness contained within said writings. I hope this has clarified the situation, without, in all truth, offering more. In all truthfulness  I feel their is little truth in much, but need to explore in much greater depth to give a detailed and truthful response. In all truth I may not have the time,  if I am telling the truth

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    Mike 700
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    True lies eh fwippes, and within this truth there are lies like the Labour lie over the US and the NHS,

    In amongst this truth, it is very easy to understand why Brydo is promoting an anti Boris Johnson , anti Tory agenda, which is of course ‘that it fits well with his desire for Scotland to gain independence, from the rest of the UK, a desire which is his right to have and hold onto, thru thick and thin!

    However, having been fed a diet of myth and lies about the Tories, firstly – by the Scottish Labour Party since he was a boy probably and secondly by the SNP ( as Labour collapses in Scotland,) who have come along at the right time and offered him and about a million others a way of destroying the 300 year old Union of now nearly 70 million souls – but that’s ok, because, by criticising the Tories at every opportunity & using hatred as a political stance seems to be acceptable to Nicci , and now her supporters are taking her lead!

    What is not clear is ‘why others, in the full knowledge that his policies will bankrupt our country, and more importantly put themselves and their loved ones , as well as the rest of us ‘, in clear and present danger, still support Comrade Jeremy Corbyn, and his promises of milk & honey paid for by ‘the few’ , the few he so condemns and hates – the few who cannot possibly contribute enough tax to cover his wild bribes ?

    Come on folks, wake up – you may never be able to go against your
    principles and vote Tory, but Jeremy Corbyn ‘s Labour Party is not ‘repeat not ‘ the Labour Party you know and love, it’s an abomination , and a danger to all, and must never be allowed to get to Downing Street!

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    fwippers
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    It is Labour in name only.

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    Mike 700
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    You are so right fwippers, it is Labour in name only these days, if only people would wake up to the fact and to the dozens of sound reasons why Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to be either Prime Minster or Leader of HM Opposition.

    Following on from my point regarding the danger he presents, it is absolutely clear that it is the government of the day’s responsibility to keep the nation and its citizens safe & Corbyn is on record as saying that he wished Nato and other Western Alliances didn’t exist.

    It is NATO of course which has kept the UK and thE other member states safe from aggression for over 50 years.

    When you couple this with his support for his ‘friends’ Hamas and Hezbollah, his support of the IRA and his attendance at the funerals of IRA murderers; all internationally recognised terrorist groups, his antagonism toward the UK’s most important ally the USA, whether you like Trump or not ( he is a 4 or 8 year deal only ) his dismissal of the rights of the State of Israel and the institutional anti-semitism in his party, his refusal to condemn Russia for carrying out murders on British soil, his personal lack of support for Trident then one really has to question whether this fully paid up marxist and admirer and supporter of numerous causes who wish to see this country destroyed, is a fit and proper person to represent the UK?.

    No one should be remotely surprised that he wishes an organisation developed to mutually defend the western world against the organisation whose current president suffers no downside from murdering his political opponents in the UK with toxic nuclear compounds , to not exist.

    Corbyn has not got the intelligence, vision, certainly not the integrity, nor courage to lead the defence and ensure the safety of our citizens.

    Jumping on the latest atrocity, one of his latest utterances is that terrorists should not have to serve their full Sentences – Can anyone really imagine this inadequate and arrogant little man heading up a meeting at Cobra?

    I can’t and the prospect of Corbyn as PM supported by the sinister Militant Tendency gang, fills me with trepidation both with regards to the economy but especially in terms of national security.

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    joss
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    Good spot joss and I’m sure there’s many more and many more to come. How do you modify a post?

    You click on the “edit post” tab Brydo

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    fwippers
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    Agreed, I’m not sure Corbyn would be “allowed” to serve as PM, there would be a coup within Labour to oust him. His views are similar to those of the Communist party which attracts only a handful of votes.

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    Brydo

    I guess it must be obvious joss but I can’t find it.

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    POPS
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    If this election was on just the one issue of the NHS then the Conservatives would not have a hope in hell of winning.

    Their spurious promise of forty new hospitals has been shown to be an outright lie, as the figure allocated is approx £100 million to get some planning ideas off the ground now, with future investment to build a handful of new ones and rebuild (refurbish?) a few more over the next ten years.

    It’s an embarrassing election scam to perpetrate on the voting population. As part of a large disabled community I feel that Johnson and co are skating on thin ice by trying to trick us into thinking that they intend to vastly improve the NHS.

    My message to all politicians is …. “You can exaggerate and try to mislead me on a whole raft of policy promises and I will expect that because you are politicians, and it’s your usual way of doing things …. but …. don’t ever lie to me about your plans for my (and others) future healthcare and wellbeing …. It’s of vital importance to me, in fact it could be a matter of life and death”.

    Labour’s leadership worry the hell out of me, but at least they’ve had the guts to tell us bluntly how many billions of pounds worth of investment the NHS needs in order to get it functioning properly again.  They also say that they’re prepared to borrow hugely to make this happen.

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    joss
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    blah blah test

    Brydo after you hit post. look at the top right hand side to see the options. I took a screen shot for you and highlighted where the edit button is for modifying your post.

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    joss
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    If this election was on just the one issue of the NHS then the Conservatives would not have a hope in hell of winning. Their spurious promise of forty new hospitals has been shown to be an outright lie, as the figure allocated is approx £100 million to get some planning ideas off the ground now, with future investment to build a handful of new ones and rebuild (refurbish?) a few more over the next ten years. It’s an embarrassing election scam to perpetrate on the voting population. As part of a large disabled community I feel that Johnson and co are skating on thin ice by trying to trick us into thinking that they intend to vastly improve the NHS. My message to all politicians is …. “You can exaggerate and try to mislead me on a whole raft of policy promises and I will expect that because you are politicians, and it’s your usual way of doing things …. but …. don’t ever lie to me about your plans for my (and others) future healthcare and wellbeing …. It’s of vital importance to me, in fact it could be a matter of life and death”. Labour’s leadership worry the hell out of me, but at least they’ve had the guts to tell us bluntly how many billions of pounds worth of investment the NHS needs in order to get it functioning properly again. They also say that they’re prepared to borrow hugely to make this happen.

    I totally agree with you on this POPS.

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    brydo

    Let’s have a go.

    #98564 Reply

    Brydo
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    Wasn’t logged in let’s try again, idiot, me, lol

    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe

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    Brydo
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    Yesssssssssss joss your a flippen genius.

    Edited just to show I can lol.

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    The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe

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    mitch
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    politicians will always over egg anything they think will win them votes,they are all as bad as each other in this respect.

    i simply will not vote for corbyn, you could hold a gun to my head and i wont do it. the man is anti uk, supports terrorists and has done for years. he was meeting jerry adams and co in remote farmhouses in the late 70’s and early 80’s. he never reported those meetings to officials.

    whereas the official back channel talks were documented and passed up the chain of command.

    so who was he reporting to? interesting that at that time the ira were getting arms from gaddafi.

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    Wigwam
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    On a slight tangent, I had a Libdem election leaflet through the door yesterday. One side had Swinson gazing whistfully into the distance, the other side the local candidate going on about schools.

    Nowhere was there any mention of Brexit or repealing article 50, or in fact any other policy except spend more taxpayer’s money on stuff.

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    Wigwam
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    So the traditional socialist mag The New Statesman refuses to advise you to vote Labour. It says of Corbyn:

    “…His reluctance to apologise for the anti-Semitism in Labour and to take a stance on Brexit, the biggest issue facing the country, make him unfit to be prime minister.”

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    fwippers
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    Crucial week ahead . Politician’s will play a straight bat and make sure their not hit for six. Opinion polls have been steady for a few days. More troubling stories about Corbyn .

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    Wigwam
    Participant

    Does Swinson have any self-awareness??  Just destroyed by Andrew Neil.

    Will Johnson risk it?

     

    #98634 Reply

    Mike 700
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    If this election was on just the one issue of the NHS then the Conservatives would not have a hope in hell of winning. Their spurious promise of forty new hospitals has been shown to be an outright lie, as the figure allocated is approx £100 million to get some planning ideas off the ground now, with future investment to build a handful of new ones and rebuild (refurbish?) a few more over the next ten years. It’s an embarrassing election scam to perpetrate on the voting population. As part of a large disabled community I feel that Johnson and co are skating on thin ice by trying to trick us into thinking that they intend to vastly improve the NHS. My message to all politicians is …. “You can exaggerate and try to mislead me on a whole raft of policy promises and I will expect that because you are politicians, and it’s your usual way of doing things …. but …. don’t ever lie to me about your plans for my (and others) future healthcare and wellbeing …. It’s of vital importance to me, in fact it could be a matter of life and death”. Labour’s leadership worry the hell out of me, but at least they’ve had the guts to tell us bluntly how many billions of pounds worth of investment the NHS needs in order to get it functioning properly again. They also say that they’re prepared to borrow hugely to make this happen.

     

    Pops , we are alI entitled to an opinion of course, and i agree that if the election was on one point only ie the NHS, then years & years of weaponising the NHS by Labour would undoubtedly pay off, irrespective of Corbyn snd Militant Tendency/ Momentum, and the truth!

    Perception counts and the Labour lie over privatisation and underfunding has been repeated enough for sufficient numbers of voters to believe it.

    However, lost in all of this will be the truth, because let’s all be absolutely clear here, the NHS is not underfunded – NHS spending has risen from £78 billion, in 2006 to some £126billion + this year , and it has been rising at a greater rate in the last few years than it ever has before, nor is it being privatised, it will always be free .

    Just simply throwing good money at it , much of which is then wasted through inefficiency , is not the answer, and neither is constant interference in the management/ operation and reorganisation of the service.

    Privatisation, immigration, funding, junior doctors , Small pay rises etc etc etc, seems to be the story of the modern NHS, and unfortunately, getting lost in alł of this ‘argy bargy’ is the patient!

    Because let’s not forget, the NHS was established as a service for ‘patients’ I.e . To provide free healthcare to those in need, and not , repeat not , as’ a career path for staff’, medical or otherwise, and certainly not something to be used by politicians & trade unions alike, to gain political points.

    It It is sad to see ,otherwise quite intelligent. people with a mental block when it comes to the NHS, and shutting out the truth, which for the sake of the patient & future healthcare, is that it has to change, it has to be more efficient, it has to be cost effective , it has to be rid of restrictive practices, and it has to be brought into the 21st. century, and this necessity applies whether it’s a Tory or a Labour minister in charge.

    It is not ‘heaven ‘ or the ‘garden of Eden’ and Doctors are not ‘Gods or Nurses ‘Angels’ it is a service provider with highly educated, well trained and compassionate staff, & it is paid for by taxes, & not just ‘income ‘ tax, and therefore should be accountable, & sentiment should not enter into the equation!

    We can be eternally grateful for the care provided to us in our time of need, as I truly am, but that shouldn’t cloud our judgement and just give in to every demand for more money.

    It is also very ‘odd’ to my way of thinking that people say ‘ I’m prepared to pay more in taxes or even a bit upfront’ in order to get a better service, but baulk at the idea of making efficiency savings !

    As i have said before, Corbyn’s Marxist policies will of course give more to those on lower incomes and perhaps a lot more to those on benefits, but bribery tends to not last very long, with the ‘chickens coming home to roost’, and the bribes and benefit increases will only be short term – his declared policies and vast overspending will undoubtedly wreck the economy and bankrupt this country, and the sacrifices made by many over the past nine years of austerity ( which were caused by his party’s economic incompetence in the first place ) will all be a complete waste, and new generations will begin to pay for his Cloud Cuckoo Land policies – and don’t forget Mr Corbyn cannot carry out the role of Prime Minister if he will not promise to protect the U.K.

    #98650 Reply

    fwippers
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    Corbyn only offers false hope. The “good times” will last a matter of months or weeks!

    #98651 Reply

    fwippers
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    I have a quandary whom to vote for and am seriously considering voting for a party I have never voted for before, Animal Rights. As I have indicated rural affairs, not Brexit or the NHS will be the defining factor. I cannot vote Labour, Whig (lib) or Tory, but coming from one of the safest Tory seats my vote is of little consequence.

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