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As some may remember I posted about 3 months ago that my KerboCharge gully was coming out of the path.
Durham council have finally turned up to repair it, well sort of!
The chap reckons they’ve had a lot of problems with this happening, and they are not happy with KerboCharge. He says there’s a Mk2 version which has lugs on the bottom which helps to stop it coming out. The trunking is too flexible and twists as the cable is removed. Also mentioned that a few of them have had failures due to wear on the hinged part and it breaking.
Unfortunately they don’t have any on the MK2 gullies in stock so will try a repair to the bit coming out, as I only use it about once a week it may be OK.
Otherwise, he reckons they are now ripping them out, tarmacking the surface flat and giving out the over the cable type cover mats instead, apparently they have now decided these are not illegal!.
He also mentioned Durhams EV/Enviromental team had washed their hands of them!.
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I wonder will these mats suffice everywhere, especially for people in terraced houses with no driveway.
Its a very good idea.
But the quality and material type have let it down.
I do hope they have a mk 2, 3,4 it solves a lot of problems.
Its a solution, that just needs developed.
So, just had a reply from the councils EV chap.
“I run the projects for all of the on-street charging solutions, and we have not taken any out, and we do not plan to. Not sure where they have got that bit of information, so apologies for that.
We are looking at other solutions and doing further trials, or having a permanent solution out in place like the kerbo, or another solution, but nothing confirmed. There is a new version currently out, but we have not installed any and would not swap out current working trial versions.”
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
So, just had a reply from the councils EV chap. “I run the projects for all of the on-street charging solutions, and we have not taken any out, and we do not plan to. Not sure where they have got that bit of information, so apologies for that. We are looking at other solutions and doing further trials, or having a permanent solution out in place like the kerbo, or another solution, but nothing confirmed. There is a new version currently out, but we have not installed any and would not swap out current working trial versions.”
Looking at the state on that install they should sack the cowboy builder and the so called project manager that signed that mess off asap
It’s like me, not pretty but (almost) works 😀
I’ll get a photo of the repair in the morning, it looks a bit better, worked OK this afternoon when I plugged in.
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D Line’s cable cover is been trialed by several local highways dept’s and might be one of the better solutions.
D Line’s cable cover is been trialed by several local highways dept’s and might be one of the better solutions. https://professional-electrician.com/features/d-lines-cable-cover-solution-for-on-street-ev-charging/
Now were talking
Nice and simple
Hi Phaedra, did you have to pay for this to be fitted and what was the price as i need something similar myself.
hopefully slightly better though 😉
thanks in advance
Hi, yes, it was fitted by my local council, was supposed t be £600 but I got it for £300. Durham are one of quie a few councils trialling the system.
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IMO the cutout should have been 3x the width of the channel either side and a better cement mix used or something like post crete, as the cement looks weak. A better option would have been to use tarmac.
On the positive side, it allowed the installation of a charger, so has served its purpose and the council is responsible for maintaining it, untill such time they become fed up and issue something in its place.
So it not all negatives 🙂
Here we go, this is the repair,
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@kezo If I was a betting man I don’t think I’d get very good odds on it lasting 🙂
I did say to the EV chap that all the one’s on the Kerbo website are bonded with tarmac to tarmac.
As I’m only using it once a week most of the time let’s hope this holds 🙂
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This is a disgrace and a bodge job in my opinion and will crack and loosen in no time
These plastic channels that have been used here are not for sub base use but are off the shelf and if they were intended to be used for such purpose they would be more substantial in their design
Also fashioned I humbly and with having years of construction experience suggest with pre moulded external side pertruding lugs which would ensure that the channel is anchored down by the surrounding bonding material
Looks like the project manager has given the job to his mate up the pub tbh
As a last ditch effort I would see if something like this could now be the solution
If/when it becomes loose again maybe suggest such a thing
A scroll through the links images show such use as yours
Hope it gets permanently sorted
I’ve been looking at one of these Kerbo channels, as my local council has a trial. But seeing your issues I have concerns.
As it will be granted under license and tied to our property, You get a 2 year guarantee, thereafter we will be responsible for maintaining the apparatus for a minimum period of 7 years. following which you may commission those, who can only repair it to remove it and reinstate the footway.
Is a get-out clause, with 6 weeks notice or if you sell the property as it’s tied to it you need to inform them of the new persons.
Also you must have public liability insurance of over £3million, which I’ve checked and it will be covered via our building insurance. as The council want INDEMNITY and for the appointed contractor also and cover must be held for the whole period of the channel.
After two years all or repair etc would fail on us and must be undertaken via the councils appointed contractor (Which the council actual owns) or one they subcontract to..
So I’m worried after two years it might cause lots to maintain if the channel can become dislodged so easily and then also if it becomes a hazard and we are liable for any injury should it become damaged or a hazard.
But I don’t think they charge for the installation, as it coming from some sort of government levy fund.
So just wondered on your thoughts.
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I was told that my council have complete responsibility for its maintenance, their own highways people supplied and fitted it as part of their own trial scheme. I don’t own the channel I only had to pay towards the installation.
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D Line EV Ultra cable cover only 20mm thick at highes’t point. Also approved by many local highways departments. Top tip, you can ziptie the cable to the mat at both ends and roll it up/out with the cable when needed. (see previous proffesional electrician link)
Very different then, to my councils terms.
I guess though, I’ve got no choice if I want one.
I suppose I could look at it for two years and if I think it will be an issue after the guarantee. I pay them to remove it. Thing is there’s no details of any cost whatsoever. Maybe I need to apply 1st, by sending of the application form I got sent when I registered my interest in the trial. Guess we’ll see.
Thx, appreciate your info.
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Thx, Kezo I have looked into these and my council is not a fan, is also Edion Protect EV Cable Protector
EV charging cables trailing across the public highway
The County Council does not permit any cable to be placed across the public highway; as it represents a health and safety hazard, and an impediment to the safe use of the highway by the visually and/or mobility impaired, or other affected user groups.Under the Highways Act 1980 action may be taken to remove cables that are deemed unsuitable or unsafe. This method of on-street EV charging is therefore not considered a suitable approach for residents without off-street parking provision to charge their EV on-street.
No mention of them at all on there site. So I guess I could get one and just play dumb, odds are though my next door neighbour would complain to council the moment they see it.
I mostly only will charge at night when the eon tariff is 6.7p and it’s not everyday I charge more like once a week.
I do have a charger installed, but my offroad space is tiny and its a huge effort to get the ex30 on there, so anything bigger is a no and restricts the size of BEV I can get and it would certainly make life easier when I need to charge. Which is why I paid extra for the 8m tethered.
The terms of the Kerbo do seem mind-blowing to me and wasn’t quote what I was expecting, them to be.
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The D Line has a 1 in 12 gradient, something others cab’t match and18mm high with a 7kwh charing cable and is the one I would invest in, if your going to get one.
My council wouldn’t allow any sort of cover to be used, hence the KerboCharge.
However, when I talked to their EV team about the repair they mentioned they were trialling several options including place on the surface type coverings.
Be interesting to see if they change their minds about them as quite a few councils do allow their use as long as they are clearly marked etc.
Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
My council wouldn’t allow any sort of cover to be used, hence the KerboCharge. However, when I talked to their EV team about the repair they mentioned they were trialling several options including place on the surface type coverings. Be interesting to see if they change their minds about them as quite a few councils do allow their use as long as they are clearly marked etc.
Pretty much like mine, Although I imagine in the future as more go electric and you get one of those surface coverings outside lots of house that’s going to be a pain for everyone walking down the street, never mind those in wheelchairs or with mobility issues.
So I’m all for the channels just not having the whole liability for it on me..
My insurance did say if someone was to trip on the lead or anything when plugged into the car then it would be the car car insurance that’s liable, not the home insurance. So I can see that also being an issue and it being a whole minefield of nightmares, if someone was to make a claim. If using a cover over a channel.
But if I want one it is what it is… I have to agree to there terms..
Odds are we’ll send the application off, as it will make life so much easier.
Not easy to get the car onto the space and restricts the size of car we can get and any access, hence why I only also charge at night.
I only put the Vitara on there for the survey and don’t normally park it on there. Which I have charged only once so far since I got it and still have 66% as we all had colds and not been out much.
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