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I’m surprised there’s not a threat up yet. Wednesday sees the final new quarter for this year, what are we hoping for? New cars or improved pricing.
I’ll start with the ever popular IM5 and 6
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@Menorca Mike
I looked at the BZ4X when I was looking at the Enyaq.
I say “looked at” as basically that was all I could do!.
While it’s slightly higher that the Enyaq on paper, the way the battery raises the floor height meant I couldn’t even get in to sit in it.Please excuse spelling/typos. Apart from being a clot it turns out I had one on my cerebellum that's now causing various problems!
Hi Glasgow,
They have a sign up on the cherry website for the Tiggo 8 to register interest for motability . It shows they are considering the motability scheme. They have the Jacoo 7 or however you spell it which is subsidiary company on motability already on the scheme. Looking at that and the Tiggo 8. I reckon it’s also go to bed expensive for the scheme if you want hybrid for what it is. Skoda kodiaq is more of a known quantity and possibly cheaper if you want a phev. They are to two hopefully I’ll be looking at next year if it comes onto motability in time. Not many decent large SUV on the market and no large estates anymore. Anyone would think disabled folk don’t have much to carry around or distances to travel. The cherry, omoda and jacoo should all be much cheaper. Considering list price. But it shows, concern for reliability, service costs, insurance l, and resale figures must be or considered to be very poor for them to be priced so high.
Well if you guys are not motivated by cost, why go through the faff of charging them every night to save a few quid.
Why didn’t the Tesla use the supercharger network, it would have cut its costs in half. That’s the point of having a Tesla.
Well if you guys are not motivated by cost, why go through the faff of charging them every night to save a few quid.
Convenience. Plug in when you get home, ignore the car overnight and it’s charged up ready for another day with no real hassle. The car would be parked there anyway, why not just plug it in and ensure it’s at your set limit. Most people will set the max charge to 80-90% unless going somewhere further away, so it may not actually take much charge each night.
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Its not a faff having the ice equivalent of a free petrol station attached to your property.
Neither is it “saving a few quid”. Its cutting your fuel bills by 90%.
By your thinking, you would be happy paying £15/Litr?? Thats only costing you a few quid…what’s wrong with that?
Sorry guys I should have made it more clear. I wasn’t talking about Bev’s but rather Phevs. There are a couple of guys on here who have a lot to say about Bev’s but don’t drive one.
Well if you guys are not motivated by cost, why go through the faff of charging them every night to save a few quid.
That’s easy to answer. Previously, I had a petrol BMW X1 that I was very happy with. At the time we changed there was nothing even remotely comparable on the scheme, given Motability’s focus on BEVs and PHEVs. We were not able to extend the lease on the BMW as we needed a new adaptation which, according to Motability’s rules, meant ordering a new car.
I had two 24 hour test drives in BEVs and decided that they were too limiting for our needs due to the poor real world range. Although we could charge at home, we do touring holidays and long day trips and didn’t want to have to make charging stops. As there wasn’t a suitable ICE car, and we didn’t want a BEV, we thought we’d give a PHEV a go as a half way house. A year in, I’m not convinced. I’m only saving £20 a month over the BMW, which isn’t worth the faff of charging after every use IMHO. We are fortunate that we have a petrol station in the village that isn’t expensive, and one 5 minute fuel stop every 3 weeks or so was far less hassle than charging. When we next change I will see what BEVs are available through Motability, and if there’s anything that appeals, and real world range is acceptable, we might give it a go. If not, we will leave the scheme and buy an ICE car privately. A third option could be to get a BEV through the scheme and buy an ICE car as well, to cover all bases. As previously mentioned, I absolutely understand that the cheap running costs of a BEV (if you can charge at home) are a major motivator for many who choose them, and there’s nothing wrong with that. However, running costs aren’t my number one priority when it comes to choosing a car. We are all different – and that’s allowed!
Why didn’t the Tesla use the supercharger network, it would have cut its costs in half. That’s the point of having a Tesla.
If you bothered to search and watch the video, you would see it’s based on how far a group of EV’s can travel, before the battery ran out, rather than conveniently stopping at a Supercharger and hoping youd paid the £9.99 subscription. At the same time the camera car, an Audi RSQ8 performance (petrol), was monitored on how far it could travel and a what cost.
The most compareable EV to the RSQ8 was BYD’s Sealion, which when calculated, the Audi would have been cheaper to run over the distance the BYD covered.
The Kia EV3 went the longest range at 330 miles. When calculated what the RSQ8 performance would have cost to run over the same distance, it was a mere £20 more. The EV3 and RSQ8 are like chalk and cheese, if you were to compare them to each other. There is no right or wrong answer here, but to which car you would choose between them, depends if you want an A to B car or a real drivers cars. For me it would be the latter!
I suggest you watch the video…
Yes I drive a PHEV, but in reality it’s the worst of both worlds and my own 220d Gran Coupe is cheaper to run overall. Yes it takes my daughter to and from school quite cheaply, as it’s charged on a granny charger overnight however, on a run it’s ecpensive, which kind of defeats the object to a certain extent. As for an EV, I simply don’t want one yet anyway. Unlike most, I do alot of longer distance miles and do not want to stop and charge, at prices as, if not more expensive than filling a ICE. Then there is the route I drive, with only one conveniently located charger, that if not working, quite frankly puts me in the shit. I have been told by certain people on this forum, I should take a different route, even if it takes me an hour longer to get home. Why should I, when I have drove the same route for 20yrs?
Many on here love nothing more than callinfg me anti EV and whatever else comes with it. I say, how can I be anti EV, when I have gone through great efforts as a sparky, helping members with their charger queries. How can I be anti EV, when I told my own mother to get one, for what she does it’s perfect. However, when driving it, there may not be the rumble of an engine heard, but the bloody drone from the tyres and wind noise is only further exaggerated, then theres the sea sickness feeling from regen breaking, not even my mum can have regen higher than level 1. So no thank you, but if you want one, cus you think they are the best thing since sliced bread, then be my guest!
I think the huge difference is if you can charge at home at the lowest / night rates and if you constantly drive long distances.
As someone who did 36,000 miles on EV since April 2024 I can definitely tell that Motability customers who cannot charge at home at lowest price, must walk away. My last Saturday round trip I have mentioned earlier of 610 miles cost me “only” £66, because I fully charged it at night. If I would have to use public charging station to begin with, the price would be significantly higher.
If you can charge at home, but still will do lots of mileage and as a result have to frequently use public charges – do your maths. Do it very carefully.
But if you can charge at home over night using cheap rates and don’t drive too far on a daily basis (I am doing only 90-95 miles a day on M3 to and from office), then BEV is no brainer for you.
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Apologies for briefness and spelling mistakes.Motability Skoda Enyaq SportLine 85x April 2024 (unhappy customer - Ombudsman pending)
Motability Mazda CX-60 PHEV July 2023 (unhappy customer - early termination on mechanical grounds)
Motability VW Touran Family Pack May 2019 (happy customer)I’d also like to put a good word in for full hybrid vehicles.
Having been on the scheme for 28-years now, I have only ever had ICE cars. I cannot charge at home, so an electric car is totally out of the question.
I currently have a Renault Clio 1.6 Esprit Alpine full hybrid. Have had it since June last year, so about 16 months. Because it is the ‘top’ model, it came with beautiful heated sports seats, ACC, SatNav, heated steering wheel, etc – and I want for nothing as regards ‘extras’.
I have done 11,400 since new – and exactly half of those miles have been in electric mode. I am therefore saving myself 50% petrol costs compared to my previous ICE cars! I can’t complain at that!
Getting back to Q4, I’m pretty sure the Inster 02 has dropped from 799 on 1st Oct to 199 now.
I shall definitely be taking a look at one as I get nearer to Dec. Higher (and probably easier to get in and out of, as is the wife’s Fiat Panda) than the eC4. Same usable battery as my eC4 and the range proven to be perfectly livable over the last 31 months. Boot capacity (with rear seat slid forward) only slightly less than current and we never take passengers and luggage at the same time! On the couple holiday journeys we do a year just put the seats down! And I love small, simple boxy cars.🙂 Definitely a contender.
Getting back to Q4, I’m pretty sure the Inster 02 has dropped from 799 on 1st Oct to 199 now. I shall definitely be taking a look at one as I get nearer to Dec. Higher (and probably easier to get in and out of, as is the wife’s Fiat Panda) than the eC4. Same usable battery as my eC4 and the range proven to be perfectly livable over the last 31 months. Boot capacity (with rear seat slid forward) only slightly less than current and we never take passengers and luggage at the same time! On the couple holiday journeys we do a year just put the seats down! And I love small, simple boxy cars.
Definitely a contender.Concept to reality for less than 3yrs sacrified benefits?
Kezo why do you assume I never watched the video? I watched it the day it was released. The purpose of the video is no more than entertainment. The point I was trying to make was others were comparing the costs, but in the real world the Tesla could charge at half the price.
@Kezo – I love the concept and do think there’ll be many more similar vehicles from various manufacturers going forward. The Citroen Olli was similar but they haven’t had the bravery yet. For now though I’ll stick with Inster, subject to trying it of course.
I just watched the video in question. What a waste of time.
Romanian Kie car 🤣
Kezo why do you assume I never watched the video?
Simply because you said “Why didn’t the Tesla use the supercharger network”, which wasn’t what the video was about.
I agree these types of video’s have an element of entertainment about them, as the average Joe wouldn’t have drove till they ran out of juice, but it seems these type of video’s are becoming more common across review sites!
I do like the BYD Sealion 7, as I did the Seal, but at 277 miles, that not something I’d entertain sorry.
these types of video’s have an element of entertainment about them, as the average Joe wouldn’t have drove till they ran out of juice, but it seems these type of video’s are becoming more common across review sites! I do like the BYD Sealion 7, as I did the Seal, but at 277 miles, that not something I’d entertain sorry.
Indeed, most people would not drive their cars beyond 0 percent or miles. But its good that they do that, it gives a. It of comfort, ice or bev that there is some leeway.
Ever since Top Gear, car reviews must have a modicum of. Nonsense in them to keep the audience amused. Before Clarkson car reviews were dry and awful.
But carwow is scripted and have a large production team following them. It is entertainment at the end of the day.
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