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I currently have a Tucson PHEV on 24 hour test and have a few questions for @kezo @JohntheLeg and anyone else who has one.
The car the dealer has given me, whilst brand new, is unfortunately the pre facelift model, so it’s a bit different from what I had researched. They are giving me a facelift one for another 24 hours when I take this one back, but it’s not a PHEV, so my education on PHEVs is right now.
I’ve just been on a decent drive in both EV and Auto (which was mostly EV) and deliberately let the battery run out so that I could then see what it was like on petrol only. All worked fine but I’ve just parked it in the garage with a view to recharging it and the ruddy cable in the car is one that only works in a charging station – not the 3 pin (granny charger) that I expected. This is irritating as tomorrow I wanted to take my wife on our usual ‘local’ journeys on EV mode but now can’t 😡. Two questions;
1) Does the Tucson PHEV come with a charging cable that can be used in a 3 pin plug as standard, or do you have to buy one?
2) There is a third driving mode that I haven’t used yet (Hybrid?), although I think the car may have now been ‘forced’ into it by the battery running out. Is this a mode where the petrol engine charges the battery? If so, if I take it out for a drive tonight (which I intend to do anyway to test the headlights) will I be able to ‘charge’ the battery? Is there a way to do this?
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@Glos Guy Thanks. That sounds as simple as possible.
My electric tariff ends in Feb, so by then I should have a good idea of how much energy I’m putting in to the car and work out if an EV tariff would be better (I doubt it).@Glos Guy Thanks. That sounds as simple as possible. My electric tariff ends in Feb, so by then I should have a good idea of how much energy I’m putting in to the car and work out if an EV tariff would be better (I doubt it).
I’m on a standard Scottish Power tariff and my electric usage has increased by about £50 a month since I’ve had the PHEV.
I decided to tial Octopus Go, which gives 5hrs off peak at 8.10 pence kWh. To schedule the charging between these hours, I ended up using a 13A smart plug, as the Bluelink app scheduling kept resetting to charge as soon as the charger was connected to the car – useless app imo.
This is my typical electricity bill ferrying daughter school and back 400 miles a month + any running about I do. The negative f using a 2 rate tariff is your standing charge increases a bit and the peak rate is based just below SVR.
Rate Consumption Cost
8.10p/kWh 152.6 kWh £12.35 (£42.42 on peak rate 24h)
27.80p/kWh 149.7 kWh £41.63
Total consumption 302.3kWh @ 17.86p/kWh † £53.98
Standing Charge 30 days @ 47.50p/day £13.96
Subtotal of charges before VAT £67.94
VAT @ 5.00% £3.40
Total Electricity Charges £71.34Had a test drive in a Hyundai Tucson Ultimate self charging hybrid this morning, I had the car for 3 hours. Very impressed, booked an appointment to order next week when our window opens.
As for all of the ‘bongs’, the car gave 2 bongs and the speed sign on the dash and in the heads up display started flashing at just 1 mph above the limit, I pressed and held he steering wheel mounted mute button for 3 seconds, this turned off the bongs but the speed limit signes were still flashing. Further to that the car appeared to remember my setting in that after several restarts the bongs never happend again except for the speed change single ping. Maybe alterations have been made to the spec and just the flashing speed limit sign is enough to satisfy the rules.
I also easily connected my iPhone via wireless car play and it worked perfectly, we’ll likely order pearl white with moon grey interior.
Daughters motability car Vauxhall Grandland 1.5 diesel automatic Ultimate.
My car SEAT Ibiza SE Tec 1.2 petrol TSI 2017.@Marc On the 2025 MY Tucson’s that @kezo and I have, you have to mute the speed limit bongs every single time that you start the car. There’s no option to default to permanently off.
When just 1mph over the limit the car will bong 4 times, unless you take your foot off the accelerator, at which point the bongs stop. If it only bonged twice, you probably eased off the accelerator after the 2nd bong. Had you not, another 2 bongs would have happened!
Were you definitely going over the speed limit after each restart? I asked the dealership last month if there was a way to change the ‘default on’ setting and they said no. I sincerely hope that you are correct and there is a new software release (even though my car had one just the other day), as all the ruddy bings and bongs would stop me getting another Hyundai.
It’s possible I could have eased of after two bongs, I can’t be sure. I definitely exceeded the speed limit by a couple of miles an hour after each restart just to test it and there were no bongs, just the flashing speed signs. The car was a 75 plate, so new, and could possibly be a MY 2026. I hope I’ve got this right but I think I have, there were some single pings though, what I eventually realised was a warning of a speed limit change 40 to 30, 30 to 20 and so on but I can live with that. It’s worth pointing out that when I turned the car of it was only for a few minutes at a time and I don’t know if that makes any difference in time needed for the car to default to bongs.
Daughters motability car Vauxhall Grandland 1.5 diesel automatic Ultimate.
My car SEAT Ibiza SE Tec 1.2 petrol TSI 2017.Had a test drive in a Hyundai Tucson Ultimate self charging hybrid this morning, I had the car for 3 hours. Very impressed, booked an appointment to order next week when our window opens. As for all of the ‘bongs’, the car gave 2 bongs and the speed sign on the dash and in the heads up display started flashing at just 1 mph above the limit, I pressed and held he steering wheel mounted mute button for 3 seconds, this turned off the bongs but the speed limit signes were still flashing. Further to that the car appeared to remember my setting in that after several restarts the bongs never happend again except for the speed change single ping. Maybe alterations have been made to the spec and just the flashing speed limit sign is enough to satisfy the rules. I also easily connected my iPhone via wireless car play and it worked perfectly, we’ll likely order pearl white with moon grey interior.
Now that’s interesting @Marc especially, as my thumb now has an imprint of the nurled volume/mute button😂 Like Glos-Guy , mine resets every time you restat the car even with the latest update. It could be as GG said you reduced speed or an update is coming🤞
In the UK, a flashing speed sign or the ability to turn “bing bong” off, is because we havent adopted the rule in it’s full potential from the EU thankfully.
You can also use voice control to turn off/on the speed limit warning, heated and ventilated seats and open and close windows, as well as window ventilation.
I just had an update on the Ioniq 5, and the safety feature screen, I could adjust the speedo 5 mph higher before it reminds me. I cant remember that feature before. You can adjust it to 3 or 5 mph over the limit.
Dont know if its the same with the Tuscon, i would imagine the software would be more or less consistent across the range.
I just had an update on the Ioniq 5, and the safety feature screen, I could adjust the speedo 5 mph higher before it reminds me. I cant remember that feature before. You can adjust it to 3 or 5 mph over the limit. Dont know if its the same with the Tuscon, i would imagine the software would be more or less consistent across the range.
I would also have expected the system to be consistent across the range but, sadly, it isn’t. Someone had mentioned this feature a while back and I checked and the Tucson didn’t have it – just on (with a 1mph warning) or off. My car had a software update when in for its service a few weeks ago and another over the air update just a few days ago. I’ve just checked and, annoyingly, this feature has not been added.
It really bugs me, because if I could set it to warn at 5mph over the limit I would leave it on all the time and find it useful. However, at just 1mph over, when cars tend to overstate speed by about 1 or 2 mph anyway, plus my county only prosecutes above 10% + 1mph over the limit, it’s a complete pain in the a@se so I always switch it off every time it first starts bonging at me.
Unfortunately, even that doesn’t put an end to the bings and bongs. I always use Sat Nav, even on my 10 mile short journeys, in order to pick up traffic alerts. As there are several ways to go, if I deviate from the way the Sat Nav wants me to go, whereas the BMW system just silently recalculated a new route, the Hyundai system has to bing to tell me I’ve gone the ‘wrong’ way 😡It also seems to bing on occasions to alert me to speed limit changes, even when I’m not speeding🤬 Then there are the bings and bongs because my hands aren’t on the steering wheel (when they are) and telling me that I need to take a break, 5 minutes after I’ve left home 😡Finally there are other bings and bongs that 13 months in to ownership I still have absolutely no idea what they mean, as there is nothing flashing on the dash or HUD to indicate what the bing or bong is telling me 🤬. As you can probably tell, I am binged and bonged out with Hyundai 😂
Alot depends on the MY, whether you can adust the speed limit warning to +5mph. Newer models with ccNC lost that feature, which in part is due to EU law even though we havent fully excepted it, hence the reason we can turn speed limit off!
Ive had another update come through this morning, so we shall see later.
Can’t say mine bongs when diverting from the route, but may be mistaken. Overall once Ive turned speed limit off, the car drives in more or less silence, apart from taking and fetching daughter and her bum encroaches on the outer seat, you get a loud bing bong seatbelt warning for rest of journey, as she likes to sit in the middle or else!
@kezo My mate is a real Hyundai fan and has had loads of them, and he buys them for his wife and daughters as well. He is totally oblivious to all the bings and bongs and is able to zone out of them. It sounds like you have the same superpower 😉 Sadly, I am made of lesser stuff, and it irritates the hell out of me 😂
I was watching a new ‘Harry’s Garage’ YouTube video the other day and he was chatting to Jeremy Clarkson about what they termed ‘Peak Car’, which they decided was around 2015/16. By this time, cars had useful features like Sat Nav and decent safety kit plus, of course, buttons rather than touch screens. They both have the same view as me, that a lot of the developments of recent years (such as constant prompts, interventions and touch screens for everything) have rather taken the joy out of driving. Maybe that’s why I miss my 2015 BMW 5 Series so much 😔
https://carbuzz.com/hyundai-concept-three-touchscreens-car-interior-fixing/
Hopefully, real buttons making a comeback. Keep your eyes on the road, the designers say. What a strange idea, in a car!!
To be fair to Hyundai, the facelift Tucson reverted to buttons for key functions versus the touchscreen controls on the pre facelift. The functionality of the Hyundai system is pretty good and certainly easier and more intuitive to find things than BMWs latest iDrive. It’s just all the ruddy bings and bongs that mean that I would struggle to convince myself to get another Hyundai. It’s Nanny State on wheels 😂
@kezo My mate is a real Hyundai fan and has had loads of them, and he buys them for his wife and daughters as well. He is totally oblivious to all the bings and bongs and is able to zone out of them. It sounds like you have the same superpower Sadly, I am made of lesser stuff, and it irritates the hell out of me
It’s no superpower, if anything it’s the radio volume🤣
I will try to remember to set sat nav, when on way to collecting daughter, as it’s being prlting it down today. Where, I do have a superpower is knowing the UK inside out, from my trusty A to Z’s from a past life😂
@kezo Like you, I rarely need Sat Nav to find my way, but I use it primarily for live traffic updates. Like all Sat Nav systems, if you deviate the system will constantly keep trying to direct you back to the prescribed route, until you are far enough along your chosen route that it now becomes the quickest. That’s fine but, being a Hyundai, every single one of those recalculations is met with ‘pings’. Today I went an alternative way and must have had at least ten sets of bings (every time the system recalculated), until my chosen route was accepted – and that was with the speed limit assist muted 😡😂
@kezo Like you, I rarely need Sat Nav to find my way, but I use it primarily for live traffic updates. Like all Sat Nav systems, if you deviate the system will constantly keep trying to direct you back to the prescribed route, until you are far enough along your chosen route that it now becomes the quickest. That’s fine but, being a Hyundai, every single one of those recalculations is met with ‘pings’. Today I went an alternative way and must have had at least ten sets of bings (every time the system recalculated), until my chosen route was accepted – and that was with the speed limit assist muted
Out of curiosity, when live traffic see’s heavy traffic (amber or red), does the system offer you to reroute?
@kezo It operates the same way as the BMW system, just with added bings and bongs 😂 If traffic is bad, and it calculates that an alternative route is quicker, it sends you on the quicker route.
Bings and Bings aside, it’s actually a better system than the BMW one. During journeys, even when there are no traffic issues, it will often show alternative routes in grey at various stages, along with stats like “2 miles shorter, 5 minutes longer”.
One thing that I really like is that in variable speed limit stretches on motorways it keeps a running total of your average speed through that section.
@kezo I’ve just received an email from Hyundai regarding my BluLink subscription, which hopefully answers our questions.
The upshot is that the car has 6 months PRO subscription (which was actually 14 months, as it doesn’t expire until October 🤔), which switches to 3 years Plus subscription and 10 years Lite.
For the avoidance of doubt, it goes on to say, in bold;
Your period of complimentary Bluelink PRO service will expire in October, and will automatically switch to Bluelink PLUS.
@kezo I’ve just received an email from Hyundai regarding my BluLink subscription, which hopefully answers our questions. The upshot is that the car has 6 months PRO subscription (which was actually 14 months, as it doesn’t expire until October
), which switches to 3 years Plus subscription and 10 years Lite. For the avoidance of doubt, it goes on to say, in bold; Your period of complimentary Bluelink PRO service will expire in October, and will automatically switch to Bluelink PLUS.Thanks for that.
I still have a T&C’s update to agree which I have ignored as it states moveing to Lite after the trial, which contradicts what you and their websites states, so will just go ahead and agree to the terms.
On another previous subject, mrs kezo and I have been paying close attention to the car’s bongs and can confirm by pressing the mute button for a few seconds to turn off speed limit function, the car does not chime at change of speed limit or does the speed sign in the display flash to warn I’m exceeding the limit. It only does these, if I forget to turn it off or haven’t pressed the mute button long enough for the banner at top of nav disaplay to show.
I keep forgetting sat nav locally, so havent been able to check that but will in next fortnight when visiting family.
I think that the Sat Nav is the source of many of the bings and bongs, even with the direction instructions muted. As there are around 4 different routes I can take to get to most places, I always put the destination into the Sat Nav in order to check live traffic updates. As previously mentioned, the bings and bongs if you deviate from the Sat Nav’s chosen route are persistent and it brings for other things that I’ve yet to establish! I noticed a ‘bing’ this morning purely because I put the car into reverse!
I think that the Sat Nav is the source of many of the bings and bongs, even with the direction instructions muted. As there are around 4 different routes I can take to get to most places, I always put the destination into the Sat Nav in order to check live traffic updates. As previously mentioned, the bings and bongs if you deviate from the Sat Nav’s chosen route are persistent and it brings for other things that I’ve yet to establish! I noticed a ‘bing’ this morning purely because I put the car into reverse!
Yes mine beeps when selecting reverse. As I have said before, the car somehow doesn’t bing bong to the extent yours does and is hushed taking the daughter daily. I found it strange when Marc was chatting to you the other day, he used the mute button to turn of speed warning, the speed sign still flashed if going over the limit. Mine doesn’t do that, maybe its a fault or glitch on mine, but certainly something, I’m not going to get investigated by the dealer. I also tend to to turn LKS off, especially locally, as going passed park cars activates it, when going ver the white line.
Also had the email from Hyundai this afternoon.
Mine works the same as yours @kezo If the speed limit warning is muted, the speed limit doesn’t flash when you exceed it.
Two other irritants of late are frequent prompts to keep my hands on the steering wheel and suggestions that I need to take a break, both obviously accompanied by bings 🤬
@kezo As an amusing aside, check out this short video from Jim Davidson, filmed whilst driving his new Hyundai Santa Fe. His car bings and bongs even more than mine. It’s ruddy constant, not that he seems to be bothered by it!
Ordered the car now, Ultimate self charging hybrid in pearl white with moss grey interior. The dealer told me that the cars speed limit warning cannot be adjusted to allow for 3 or 5 mph above the limit and that if it is muted it defaults to bongs every time you restart the car, so I’ve no idea what was going on with the car that I test drove. The dealer told me it would be a factory order and would take about 3 months so should be ready for our end of December due date.
Daughters motability car Vauxhall Grandland 1.5 diesel automatic Ultimate.
My car SEAT Ibiza SE Tec 1.2 petrol TSI 2017.@Marc I hope that you are happy with your car. Whilst the PHEV version is cheaper to run, I have to say that having to charge it after every use remains a faff even after a year, so at least you won’t have that to deal with!
There have been a couple of occasions when I have forgotten to charge the car. It crossed my mind that if it had been a BEV I would have been in real bother! Like @kezo I put the car into ‘Automatic’ mode on longer journeys so that the limited EV range isn’t used up first. I then make sure that I switch it into EV mode when the remaining miles home equals the remaining EV range (although it never fully matches). However, on a couple of occasions, including yesterday, I forgot to do this, arriving home with 22 miles of EV range remaining and annoyingly having retuned just 34.5 mpg as a result, as the car was driving on petrol only. These are all issues that you don’t have with an ICE car and you won’t have with the self charging hybrid, so you’ve probably made a wise choice.
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