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- March 2, 2020 at 2:59 pm#108156
There is a lot of knowledge amongst us, I exclude myself.
The COVID 19 is dominating the news:
How worried should we be?
Will this be Spanish flu proportions or just another contained outbreak as SARS and MERS were?
Oh – and when will we start to see ‘Just in time’ manufacturing suffer?
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- April 5, 2020 at 1:04 pm #111138
Can we leave politics out of this please. The time for debate will come much later when we are finally free of this frightful and fearful pandemic. Until then we need to support our national government by following the guidelines issued regardless of our own political viewpoints. We also need to support each other as much as we can with consideration and kindness on social media. Stay safe everyone.
That is exactly my point Pops (perhaps clumsily put ) using the tragedy as a basis for kicking our Prime Minister & our Government to gain political points, is ‘beyond the pale’ – we should all be joining together to get us and our loved ones out of danger?
April 5, 2020 at 1:41 pm #111142
PhiljbThe reason why the police don’t want people sat in the sun is to stop the sheep mentality, pretty soon you’ll have large groups all sunbathing and safe distancing goes out the window.
I saw on the bbc a gent in his late 50’s sat on his own in the sun and an officer asking him politely to move on.
he wasn’t happy and argued that he had sciatica so needed to sit down. If they allowed it again people would be saying they also have a bad back etc.If a ban on all outside exercise Does happen then there are going to be a lot of really angry people all kicking off on social media
April 5, 2020 at 3:37 pm #111146The exercise issue needs to be resolved very quickly. The vast majority are observing the lockdown and rules but if they see others flouting them might conclude “what’s the point or if you can’t beat them etc”. No doubt a very difficult situation but I think now is the time for action. We are seeing that social distancing seems to be working in other countries. On a different note it’s being suggested China should pay financially for failing to report the virus. There are many stories about this on several mainstream sites. £351b is the sum mentioned for the UK.
April 5, 2020 at 3:55 pm #111147A lot of us are lucky enough to have nice gardens, so I’m not going to judge people who genuinely have no outdoor space. The whole population has to be responsible about NOT breaking guidelines otherwise there will be a total ban on ‘going out for exercise’ very soon.
April 5, 2020 at 3:57 pm #111148
bfoandcI will try and obey the moderators instructions with just one comment. I think supporting each other and following all the rules is what we should be doing but, I don’t think disagreeing about political decisions undermines this but I do accept that people will also differ about that!
I too am shocked by the unwillingness to follow the rules on staying in and keeping social distance. I think though that some system for those families without gardens should be considered.
April 5, 2020 at 4:08 pm #111149The exercise issue needs to be resolved very quickly. The vast majority are observing the lockdown and rules but if they see others flouting them might conclude “what’s the point or if you can’t beat them etc”. No doubt a very difficult situation but I think now is the time for action. We are seeing that social distancing seems to be working in other countries. On a different note it’s being suggested China should pay financially for failing to report the virus. There are many stories about this on several mainstream sites. £351b is the sum mentioned for the UK.
I think I read a post the G7 is looking at around 3.2 trillion ?
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
April 5, 2020 at 4:18 pm #1111503.2 trillion isn’t enough they caused it and it spread to the world great harm will come to them even when this is over the deserve to suffer in my honest opinion
April 5, 2020 at 6:20 pm #111151
martinoIf we can think of getting anything at all positive out of the coronavirise, is that everyone know now how to wash there hands properly..
April 5, 2020 at 6:42 pm #111152I think that once this is over, this country and many others will be reviewing its relationship and its dependence on China and Chinese products.
April 5, 2020 at 6:45 pm #111153You must be joking I can’t believe you said that
April 5, 2020 at 6:46 pm #111154Sorry I thought you said would still be in a relationship with them
April 5, 2020 at 7:04 pm #111155I think that once this is over, this country and many others will be reviewing its relationship and its dependence on China and Chinese products.
I totally agree with you.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally I get confused and often say the wrong thing.
April 5, 2020 at 8:48 pm #111158
PhiljbI don’t think that will be the case at all, there is far too much money at stake for that to happen.
April 5, 2020 at 10:33 pm #111162
martinoits like getting done for speeding we all take it easy for while in the fear of getting another ticket , then after a bit we’r back to normal.
may be for a while but after sometime passes people forget ,and want a bargain, so will get stuff on ebay from china .
April 5, 2020 at 11:33 pm #111164
BrydoChina is the epicentre of all of these virus. We should encourage them to close the markets that have caused this, and other virus, to appear.
As an absolute minimum they must tell the world as soon as anything happens in the future and close their country down as soon as they know a virus is in the community.
April 6, 2020 at 12:05 am #111165Brydo, you’re talking about Communist China here. It is not a normal country where normal rational things occur. The survival of the Party is far more important than any other consideration.
April 6, 2020 at 12:23 am #111166
brydoYes I agree, but viruses no know boundaries and eventually enter the broader society so it must be in everyone’s interest for them to acknowledge the problem quickly and seek help to close it down.
As an aside I suggest China is now a dictatorship rather than communist although, in the grand scheme of things, they are very similar.
April 6, 2020 at 12:28 am #111167I feel China will have many questions to answer and, financially, has much more to lose.
April 6, 2020 at 12:33 am #111168
brydoQuestions will need to be asked and procedures put in place to ensure it never happens again.
The world will be a different place after this but will be unrecognisable if this happens again within the next decade.
April 6, 2020 at 9:36 am #111177
LandymanI did read it’s expected to return in ten years but I did read that on the Web, false or true time will tell.
April 6, 2020 at 9:43 am #111178
BrydoThis particular virus is here to stay, but we will likely have a vaccine for it so it will be less of a threat.
It’s a new, more difficult to detect but equally devastating, virus that would be a problem.This virus, once caught, seems to take a week or so to show signs it is with you. That’s a week in which many, that come into contact with you, could be infected.
April 6, 2020 at 1:31 pm #111198With HM resurrecting ‘we’ll meet again’ , is anyone using FaceTime, or Zoom, or Google Duo to keep in touch with friends and family during ‘ lock down’?
We use FaceTime everyday to family in Denmark, Spain, California, and the U.K. and I use Zoom and Duo a couple of times a week to keep in touch with friends in ‘ group’ meetings/ chats, even voice therapy sessions.
With all of the technology available to us today, self isolation doesn’t mean shutting ourselves off from others.
April 6, 2020 at 3:43 pm #111205
ThargBrydo… “Procedures… to make sure it never happens again”. I sincerely hope so but fear it won’t happen. I reckon it will need some pure scientific research. Pure research does not, in the short term, generate profits. It does not immediately lead to a product which can earn revenue. However, it desperately needs to be done here to understand everything about viruses in as much detail as we can get. Only by knowing exactly how they work will be be able to stop them doing it.
April 6, 2020 at 4:25 pm #111206
brydoIt doesn’t happen again in terms of China closing the markets generating these virus and closing down their country as soon as an unknown virus appears.
This has cost every major country in the world billions£ it would be much cheaper to close down the offending country and the major powers contributing to the cost.
April 6, 2020 at 8:40 pm #111215
Donkey OatieI think I posted this before but India with similar demographics to China don’t appear to be a source of these Viruses. The most likely reason is that a Majority of the population is Vegetarian. Therefore cross species infection cant happen.
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