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Yeah, reluctantly though. I’ve struggled with being able to get in and out of the I5 after a series of ops as it’s a bit lower and wider. I started the hunt for a new car once motability had given me the green light and initially looked at other electrics, but couldn’t find one that suited, so back to an old friend in the Volvo XC40. A bit boring, certainly not the attention seeking torque monster that is the I5, but high up with amazing seats is where the priority is now!
I’ve just done the same, albeit for a different reason, and I concur with the advice above. When I contacted them they were very fair, although I did have to pay the £250 early cancellation fee. Worth noting that you do get a pro rata refund of any AP you initially put down, which might soften the blow of the fee a bit.
Thanks, as usual some really good advice. There’s plenty to miss about the Ioniq 5, that instant torque is a blast, but I’m glad to be returning to the known quantity of ‘normal’ fuel. I’ll never be a Luddite about electric cars, in many ways they’re superior, for the right person with the right circumstances.
Again, thanks for any comments 👍
It’s an RCD that keeps tripping, located in the electricity box outside. I remember you commenting Kezo, when I had it installed, that it was a poor place to locate it. It resets ok and works again for another couple of hours before tripping again. The car has 3 levels of AC charging, 100%, 90%, or 60% (which works out to 4.4kw), and the first 2 trip but the 3rd doesn’t. There’s no effect on the rest of the house, just the charger.
TBH although it’s an inconvenience I’m going back to petrol next month so it’s only going to be for a short while. I’ve been lucky with the ICCU and the 12V so I’ll cross my fingers it isn’t that!
Hi Kezo,
It’s the charger circuit breaker that keeps tripping unless I reduce the power. Never happened before this update though? Could be a coincidence but it makes me suspicious!
The software is 02.42 which completed on 13/2/26.
The Volvo XC40 is a great car and very well presented and put together. I’ve had many Volvo’s, including an XC40 through the scheme, and it was a lovely car. I know it’s Chinese owned but you’d never guess by the design!
You boys do give some very good advice!
Ironically, I’ve just received an email from Ohme telling me to do just as you advised. Which is nice of them. 2 weeks later, but at least they did respond, which is more than Hyundai have done so far! I wonder if it’s just the Ioniq 5 or whether it applies to other models or other stablemate vehicles like the EV6?
@kezo agreed! The RWD will be the correct option for anyone not living with the threat of constant slippery conditions and those wanting to partake of drag strip shenanigans ?.
Regarding the charging, do you mean remove the Bluelink from the equation completely and not signing into Ohme using that? I already use the Ohme app for charging, the issue being that the two apps keep disconnecting leading to the Ohme app advising it can’t contact car so is assuming 0% charge. I can reset it but it’s a proper pain as you have to plug in/out multiple times. ?
Not sure how it started but since having kids all our cars have to have a name and this one was easy!
Funnily enough the lease car that’s just gone was an XC40, although a B4 mild hybrid version. If you’d like a comparison let me know. My wife has a B5 Volvo too so I’m very familiar with that power train as well. ?
Great advice, thanks. I spent the first 30yrs living in almost tropical South Wales, the only real snow I’d seen was the famous winter of ‘82 and the occasional ski trip. For the last 20 odd winters I’ve lived 40 miles north west of Aberdeen so I now know what proper snow looks like! It’s part of the routine and as a consequence I’ve become fairly experienced with slippery conditions. Nowhere near an expert though, I keep on learning, and this very different car is just another curve to adapt to. You’re right that it will take some trial and error to work out the best settings for all the systems to find the sweet spot, I intend to do just that. I had an interesting experience last week when we had the rain fall on deeply frozen ground. Having done the standard thing of not reading the manual (tbh it is the size of the bible, not joking!) I assumed snow mode took care of everything related to slippery road driving and thought it would adjust the regen to mid level (there are 6 levels in this car ranging from zero to full 1 pedal and including an auto mode worked out by the software/nav system/driving mode). The car went up our iced track with barely a slip, I was really impressed. Imagine my surprise when coming back down the hill to find no regen whatsoever as snow mode had turned it off! ? Basically a 2 ton bobsleigh. During subsequent trips I turned snow mode off and used medium regen and found it to be very like engine braking but I’d gritted by then. When the white stuff arrives I’ll be experimenting and I’ll provide some feedback. The mechanical/tyre grip seems comparable to our other car which is an AWD Volvo on all seasons.
?? I am at expert level when taking things out of context, especially where Mrs B is concerned!
I believe the Funicular is still out of action, a funding issue. I’ve only been once, many years ago, when I took my newborn son up. Big mistake! As an inexperienced Dad I wasn’t aware that babies can’t regulate ear pressure very well so once we were half way up he started screaming. And didn’t stop until we went down. I endured a lot of disapproving looks that day ?. That put me off for good!
Nah, wrong side for that. I did offer to take her up the other way but she just glared at me?! Then suggested that if I wanted to go that route she’d need a bottle of wine first? Must be scared of heights ?♂️. ?
No, mine doesn’t have the heat pump. TBA the car was already built so I didn’t have a chance to specify it, but even if I could’ve I wouldn’t have spent an extra £1k as I don’t think the benefit is enough. From a cost perspective the £1000 will never work out for me, at 3p per mile I’d have to cover an extra 33,000 miles to make the money back, and from a convenience perspective mine does have (as standard on all models now) battery preconditioning which allows fast charging irrespective of the air temp as long as you’ve told the car via built on sat nav that you’re heading for a fast charger. I think, even with a 50kw charger, it’ll charge faster than I can walk to the loo, spend £10 on a dodgy coffee, and walk back! In my case it’s 99% charge at home anyway. A few trips per year down to my folks in mid Wales is the only long distance I do these days and driving at 20mph in the Land of my Fathers might save me some range! ? ???????
@kezo ?. Yeah, I chose the AWD premium thanks to the often poor winters we have in northern Scotland. I’d have liked some of the toys available on the Ultimate, and you certainly wouldn’t have much use for the extra power AWD gives (it’s comically fast in a straight line but in no way a sports car once bends arrive), but I wanted the chance to use the car in all conditions. It did really well during the recent icy spell, although I’m not sure how I’ll get on without any engine braking when the white stuff arrives. Apparently they don’t advise using brake regen when slippery and the snow mode actually disables it. Might end up having to use the actual brakes and imagine there’s an egg under the pedal ?! Plenty of grip though so fingers crossed. I’ve debated winter tyres but it’s a big cost for a car I’ll never own. North American spec cars come with all season Michelins, but we make do with the summer version. If Motability covered the continued use of all seasons I’d be prepared to cover the initial cost but they won’t. Bit of a poor policy that. ?♂️https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/vin-number-look-up-uk.40752/
Hi, if you want the exact details of what comes with your car and either have or can obtain from your dealer the VIN number the above link has instructions on how to check and how to do it without being charged. It’s a bit convoluted but if you have reasonable computer skills you should manage. I did and I’m not a whizz, although I couldn’t do it on my phone or iPad, had to go to a laptop to make it work.
If you do it it’ll tell you exactly the spec of your car including V2L. I did it with my 5 because there’ve been some customers getting cars missing components that should have been there and I wanted to be sure and have no surprises when I went to collect. It’s a strange choice for Hyundai to not include it though, it’s expensive to buy but I dare say cheap to make and supply and it’s a key differentiating feature of these cars. To buy it’s around £350 so better to be sure.
If you struggle I can check it for you but I’d need your VIN.
Worth remembering that if you choose AWD like I have you also lose most of the space in the frunk thanks to an extra motor. Still just about enough to store cables but not much else!
And, on the subject of spreadsheets being sad, the diversity of knowledge, experience, and passion is what makes this forum a special place to discuss cars in general, and the specific requirements of those who might view vehicles in a very different way. Knowing the differences between vehicles is a real benefit that most couldn’t or wouldn’t be able to do themselves. So, definitely not sad! Just cool and helpful ?.
I’d say the Enyaq is definitely worth consideration. It would have been my next choice, but for me the V2L has real benefits in providing home back up power and the Enyaq doesn’t offer this feature. I’ll admit the design isn’t for everyone, as with the Ioniq 6, but personally I love them both. The hatchback style to allow easy dog access and the availability of AWD swayed me to the 5, but both are unique and that’s a good thing. The Skoda is a great looking car but it’s very similar to lots of others. This might be a big advantage to those looking for it to blend in, if you live in urban areas I have heard the Hyundai’s have a poor record with being stolen, so this aspect might be worth considering too. You’ll not go unnoticed in an Ioniq!
In the end the features of the Hyundai won out for me, even though I’ve had to choose entry level Premium spec to get AWD, it has plenty of toys and comfort features. I’ll miss the HUD, although unlike some I don’t have any issue seeing the speedo through the wheel, but the feature I’ll most miss is the blind spot camera view in the dash when indicating. Truly an excellent safety feature and a cut above the standard blind spot monitor I’ll have on mine. A plus is that the 19” wheels offer better range and look better IMO, as well as being cheaper to fit winter tyres.
I just hope I’ve made the right call with moving to electric. Certainly a very different experience from any other car choice I’ve made over the years. Fingers crossed!
I certainly don’t wish to denigrate any feedback given by others, but to offer balance I found the process to be very easy and straightforward. I couldn’t find a water pipe earth so thought that might cause issue, but no, it all went according to plan. In addition, I’ve found their UK based customer service department to be very pleasant to deal with. Even the subcontractor who did the installation was very professional and friendly. He put the charger exactly where I wanted it even though I’d changed my mind since completing the survey. Time wise, it was installed very promptly with plenty of communication from the installers about time slots. Again, not disputing the poor experiences but mine has been very good so far.
All of the new Hyundai models are marmite, and in my case I love them. The looks are subjective but what isn’t is that it’s interesting from every angle. Like a Mercedes EQ had a love child with a 911, and that’s not a recipe you see very often ?. I spent too many minutes gawking at one in a car park the other day, I wouldn’t even have noticed a 4 series Beemer, and I guess if you wanted some anonymity you wouldn’t choose the Hyundai, but for individuality there’s really not much that’ll draw the eye in the same way. When I ordered my car they had a special edition all black version of the 6 in the showroom and if that were mine I’d be on Amazon finding Batman stickers. ?
Of course, the BMW has badge kudos, and like the thought or hate it, we are all influenced by that to a certain extent, whether it’s to appreciate a certain brand, to be appreciated by others whilst in a certain brand, or loving to hate a brand and those who choose them, we still have an opinion. Personally, in the same way as I’d never have thought of having an electric car, I’d never have thought of having a Hyundai. Traditionally it’s not an inspirational brand but I really think that the perception is changing, driven by models like the Ioniq 6. In the case of this particular mid 50’s man, it’s worked, and I love the mix of quality, individuality, and Far East ingenuity, as well as the fact that you’ll be let out at junctions! To be honest your subject heading says it all, who’d have thought a few years back that comparing a BMW with a Hyundai would be a genuinely difficult choice? I wish you luck with yours and hope you love it whilst you have it, whatever it is.
My dealer, who was lovely, was also misinformed regarding the spec of the demonstrator. Turns out I’ve tested the rwd version so goodness knows how rapid the awd will be! The rwd is plenty fast enough and if I didn’t really need the awd I’d be going with the ultimate including tech pack. So many nice additions, but the blind spot cameras showing the area behind when you indicate is one of those inventions that makes you wonder why it isn’t on all cars. Truly amazing feature that makes multi lane motoring much less stressful.
I’m taking one out again tomorrow to bring it home and check my local roads. Happy to check any specifics if you can think of any, and I concur with Pops about the lack of interference from the automated systems, in fact I concur with all of his review which was excellent. In terms of stock, and maybe due to the cost to private buyers, there seem to be plenty available in the uk. My dealer had 3 in her network (Arnold Clark) all available within a week, but advised more choice was possible with a small delay. I’d advise anyone ordering to ask the dealer for the specific spec sheet for the exact stock car to ensure it has all the bits you’d expect. There’s some debate on Ioniq forums about standard spec missing due to lack of parts, although the variants my dealer had in the showroom all looked to be as expected.
Thanks, I’ll take a look at that video. The rabbit hole of YouTube is amazing but I often despair how much of my life is being consumed with car and tech reviews! I think I need parental controls set up so I can be monitored on my usage ?.
Actually, I love the Ioniq 6 but no awd drive option means no point looking. They had a black edition version at my dealer and it looked amazing. As with the 5, the 6 reminds me of other classic car designs (back end of a 911 turbo?) whilst being utterly unique. The Korean makes are really making leaps forward with EV design and technology. 10 yrs ago I’d have snobbishly looked down on a Hyundai or a Kia but not any more!
I’ve had a few cars from Arnold Clark including my motability Volvo and they have always given us the keys and left us to it, although they’ve now lost the Volvo franchise. I had a recent bad experience with an Arnold Clark multi site dealer (all Stellantis manufacturers), and rapidly decided to give them a hard swerve, but that was before we even got to test drives. I guess it’s down to the individual dealer to decide customer service levels, but common sense indicates an order of such value will require careful consideration and probably multiple visits.
Personally, I wouldn’t order a car unless I was given ample time to test all aspects. You need to get over the nerves and low grade excitement of driving a new car to really understand if it’s for you, especially if there’s a chance of heart ruling head. Prior to my latest order (due 6 wks ?) I had the car for a quick 20 min try on my own then asked for a longer try to be booked, so my family and I all went and we had it for half day. I got the impression it could’ve been longer if needed, certainly didn’t seem a trouble for them. I needed to test the ingress/egress, the comfort over longer periods, the ride over different roads, and in particular with this latest car, the electric motor and how it drove. So, Specialist Cars Renault Aberdeen were really nice, really accommodating, and earned an order from me. Time will tell if they back up their good sales pitch with equally good service.
You’ll know before you collect your car whether there are inherent reliability problems as many will be on the road by then. It is a new model after all, and teething troubles are always going to happen.
That said, if I worked for Jeep and I knew it was going to be featured on the best watched car review platform, by a person who appears to speak his mind, then I’d make sure it was the best prepared vehicle I’d ever put out. So, they’re either very incompetent or very unlucky, and it’s probably the latter.
My current lease is a Volvo XC40 and within a few months it had a complete coolant system failure which resulted in every component related to that needing changed. Volvo and quality are normally good bed fellows, but mine still failed. About a year ago, during its last service, I asked them to check the brakes as there was a vibration which grew according to how hard you pushed the pedal. I assumed there might have been some debris stuck, or some such small issue, but actually they ended up changing all four discs and pads as every one of them was warped! I’ve never had that happen in any car before and I’ve had many. Sometimes you get a rogue, a Friday nighter, a lemon. Hopefully yours will run trouble free for the three years.
Thanks for that, your point is well made and could provide some extra incentive to switch to electric motoring.
In my particular case I already have OVO energy and they do a bolt on tariff called ‘Anytime’ which charges 9.52p per kWh but only when charging a vehicle. To take advantage of this tariff you must have a smart meter (which we already had) and link the tariff to the Ohme app. OVO then charge the standard rate for every unit used, irrespective of whether it’s the car charger or not, but credit you back the amount it thinks you’ve used to charge the car at the end of the month. I’m not sure how it knows which electrical devices are consuming energy at any given time, but I’m guessing that a combo of being linked to the app and the size of the power draw will indicate to their system that a vehicle is being charged. This will mean that the excellent benefit you’ve outlined in your post won’t apply to me, but certainly will to others on a more conventional tariff. I know that Octopus Go works as you’ve suggested, in that there’s a time period (normally through the night) where all electricity consumed is at a lower rate, and I’m sure there are plenty of others. In my case, as we already had OVO, it was easy just to stick with it and see how it went. We aren’t under contract as our fixed deal ended at the worst possible time during the energy cost crisis and there were no other deals better priced, but you can be sure that I’ll be monitoring how much I get credited back per month vs how much I’ve charged the car, the cynic in me thinks they’ve set it up like that to cheat a bit. It’s a strange charging system, you tell the system what time you need the car to be charged by then plug it in. It then intermittently charges based on when the carbon figure is least impacted, up to your chosen percentage and by the time specified. So, even though it’s branded as Anytime, to make it immediately charge at the maximum possible wattage you need to override this intermittent feature and force the system to provide all the power straight away which then charges you at normal rate (just under 30p per kWh). I’ll be seeing how it goes with the costings and adjusting suppliers if it doesn’t work out.
Your excellent tip will be valuable to most I think, and all of these little gems of advice go towards education in the benefits of electric driving. So much of the mainstream press denigrates electric driving, they like to prey on fear of the unknown, it’s always good to hear the positives as well. ?
I think you’ve made a great choice, one that will hopefully serve you well. The Avenger was the car that got me looking at BEV’s at first, although it didn’t work out well for me actually ordering one. I had a poor experience with the dealer being one of those who don’t care much for the motability customer, and that my wife hated it! I liked it, especially the way it looks, but not enough to fight the corner for actually ordering one. That many people will doesn’t surprise me though, and I look forward to hearing how you like it when it arrives. I’m curious about the wait times as I was told ‘somewhere between 6 and 12 months’, one of the multiple things that annoyed me about the dealer. Honestly, this particular dealer has Jeep, Fiat, Vauxhall, Peugeot, and Alfa Romeo all at the same site, and they aren’t nice to deal with at all. It’s a demonstration of how these big dealers remove competition and then place no emphasis on customer service.
I’m taking mine in 3 weeks before, back to the main dealer in case there’s any issues which warranties would sort. It’s unlikely, but I’d rather be safe than sorry. It’s already quite a stressed period when you swap your car. Nice, but a bit fraught. I wasn’t aware that you could do it 3 months before with a first MOT, that’s good.
