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That is so true it’s like if you want ICE you get a 0-60 in 15 seconds hatchback ? or just get a BEV and they so kindly offer us the base model, we’re not allowed to be happy getting a car that’s desirable in the real world. ??♂️
To be fair, there are one or two ICE cars left on the scheme that just about have enough power to pull the skin off a custard, but sadly none are big enough for the needs of manny disabled people who often have to cart around wheelchairs and scooters etc – a fact that Motability seem to often overlook ??
That is so true it’s like if you want ICE you get a 0-60 in 15 seconds hatchback ? or just get a BEV and they so kindly offer us the base model, we’re not allowed to be happy getting a car that’s desirable in the real world. ??♂️
To be fair, there are one or two ICE cars left on the scheme that just about have enough power to pull the skin off a custard, but sadly none are big enough for the needs of manny disabled people who often have to cart around wheelchairs and scooters etc – a fact that Motability seem to often overlook ??
You make it sound like having a scooter or wheelchair in the car needs the same sort of power as for towing a caravan 🙂
Most scooters and wheelchairs weigh less than an average passenger
You make it sound like having a scooter or wheelchair in the car needs the same sort of power as for towing a caravan ? Most scooters and wheelchairs weigh less than an average passenger
You have completely misread my comment. I was talking about cars not being big enough for those who have to cart around wheelchairs / scooters etc and would still like to have room for luggage and maybe the odd passenger.
That is so true it’s like if you want ICE you get a 0-60 in 15 seconds hatchback
or just get a BEV and they so kindly offer us the base model, we’re not allowed to be happy getting a car that’s desirable in the real world. 
To be fair, there are one or two ICE cars left on the scheme that just about have enough power to pull the skin off a custard, but sadly none are big enough for the needs of manny disabled people who often have to cart around wheelchairs and scooters etc – a fact that Motability seem to often overlook
The JCW was one of them!
TBH I don’t know whether to leave the scheme again or what. Mota’s love affair with 1.2 and 1.5 3 pots is disheartening. I only hope they put some decent 2l on, 3l would be nice but, thats pushing it, however I just can’t see it anymore. Then there their new love affair of BEV’s and their illusion of 2030 for petrol & diesel!
So if you want a bit of poke, there are 5 out of 800 odd cars on the scheme with sub 6s and break the 300bhp barrier 2 PHEV’s and 3 BEV’s. True drivers cars they propabably aren’t!
2.0 Cooper S is still on the scheme, that’s got a bit of poke. Obviously won’t suit a lot of people though.
The JCW was one of them! TBH I don’t know whether to leave the scheme again or what. Mota’s love affair with 1.2 and 1.5 3 pots is disheartening. I only hope they put some decent 2l on, 3l would be nice but, thats pushing it, however I just can’t see it anymore. Then there their new love affair of BEV’s and their illusion of 2030 for petrol & diesel! So if you want a bit of poke, there are 5 out of 800 odd cars on the scheme with sub 6s and break the 300bhp barrier 2 PHEV’s and 3 BEV’s. True drivers cars they propabably aren’t!
Yes, I had the JCW in mind when thinking of petrol cars with a bit of poke that were too small for many with disabilities. I agree with what you say about true drivers cars. I’ve got the Maxda CX-60 on my list, but being a PHEV it’s very heavy and that will affect the handling compared to the lighter ICE equivalent (which I would prefer, but isn’t on the scheme).
I’ve got the Maxda CX-60 on my list, but being a PHEV it’s very heavy and that will affect the handling compared to the lighter ICE equivalent (which I would prefer, but isn’t on the scheme).
Make sure you give it a good test drive. I did find it a bit bouncy over some surfaces, when pushing on. I may take another look at it but, mrs kezo found the seat had lack of thigh support if you remember.
Test drove the Suzuki Across (Rav4 PHEV) which drove better imo but, not as flashy by a long shot 🙂
Make sure you give it a good test drive. I did find it a bit bouncy over some surfaces, when pushing on. I may take another look at it but, mrs kezo found the seat had lack of thigh support if you remember. Test drove the Suzuki Across (Rav4 PHEV) which drove better imo but, not as flashy by a long shot ?
Interesting. I don’t like the look of the CX-60 but it’s the size that appeals (X3 size) and Mazda build quality is pretty good. Not quite BMW, but better than many. I wouldn’t want a Suzuki but would take a look at the RAV4 if it returned. My wife had one years ago and we both liked it (we kept it 10 years from new!) but last time I took a look it was terribly out of date compared to its peers, especially infotainment (which gets poor reviews). Desperately needs an all new model that brings it up to date.
Had a very interesting chat with Motability this morning. Called about another issue, but the topic of renewal came up and I mentioned that we might be leaving the scheme unless choice improves. I expressed my frustration at the fact that Motability seems obsessed with EVs and PHEVs, which aren’t for everyone.
The person I spoke to said that what is and isn’t on the scheme is down to manufacturers and they are keen to push EVs (we know that because private buyers aren’t buying them in enough volume to hit their targets). I challenged this saying that everything is available at the right price and that if EVs of over £50k with APs of up to £8k can appear on the scheme, then it was perfectly possible to have a much better choice of larger petrol or diesel cars, even if the APs were much higher than those currently offered.
They also explained to me about the new policy of restricting lease extensions to 6 months (so it is true) but I’ll update on that on the relevant thread.
They also explained to me about the new policy of restricting lease extensions to 6 months (so it is true) but I’ll update on that on the relevant thread.
This new lease extention rumour is the one thing worrying me at the moment. I’m new to the scheme and am awaiting my new car which should be available for pick up beginning of Feb (yet to be officially confirmed).
Problem is if that date proves to be correct by the time the 3 year lease expires I will only have 10 months of my PIP award left which means I wont be able to choose a new car until a successful PIP review is done. If they will only be prepared to extend the lease for 6 months at the end I will have a shortfall of 4 months before I can choose a new car on the scheme.
Had a very interesting chat with Motability this morning. Called about another issue, but the topic of renewal came up and I mentioned that we might be leaving the scheme unless choice improves. I expressed my frustration at the fact that Motability seems obsessed with EVs and PHEVs, which aren’t for everyone. The person I spoke to said that what is and isn’t on the scheme is down to manufacturers and they are keen to push EVs (we know that because private buyers aren’t buying them in enough volume to hit their targets). I challenged this saying that everything is available at the right price and that if EVs of over £50k with APs of up to £8k can appear on the scheme, then it was perfectly possible to have a much better choice of larger petrol or diesel cars, even if the APs were much higher than those currently offered. They also explained to me about the new policy of restricting lease extensions to 6 months (so it is true) but I’ll update on that on the relevant thread.
The government delaying the ban untill 2035, then have the ZEV mandate start next year with 22% of manufacturers cars must be electric and rising every year there after was a class act of the government giving to you in one hand and taking it away with the other. Its also the biggest con going, where manufacturers can buy carbon credits from each other to avoid fines not meeting the targets.
I will decide next week whether I’m staying or going.
Incidently, the Across is built by Toyota on the same line as the Rav4.
You no longer need to have at least 12 months left on your allowance to apply for your next vehicle.
You no longer need to have at least 12 months left on your allowance to apply for your next vehicle.
Really when was that changed?
Edit: Just checked the Motability FAQs and it appears you are right. Will have to inform the guy at my dealership next time I speak to him that he gave me a bit of wrong information lol
the only thing i would like to see, but it will take time is a vast improvement in the charging infrastructure.
as at the moment an electric car aint feasable for me at the moment without a home charger and thats impossible unless they move the bungalow closer to the road.
there are 3 fast chargers within 6 miles of me and 2 have been out of order for 3 months, other chargers 6 within 5 miles likewise half are out of order at any one time it seems and one is time restricted at our local gym you get penalised after an hour which makes it useless as the classes there are an hour so by the time you hook up got to the class get back and unhook youve got a penalty charge.
its great all these high end evs are coming on the scheme but what are the rest of us supposed to do?
This new lease extention rumour is the one thing worrying me at the moment. I’m new to the scheme and am awaiting my new car which should be available for pick up beginning of Feb (yet to be officially confirmed). Problem is if that date proves to be correct by the time the 3 year lease expires I will only have 10 months of my PIP award left which means I wont be able to choose a new car until a successful PIP review is done. If they will only be prepared to extend the lease for 6 months at the end I will have a shortfall of 4 months before I can choose a new car on the scheme.
I’m sure that the scenario you describe would fit the criteria for an extension beyond 6 months, as it would be exceptional circumstances.
Incidentally, the Across is built by Toyota on the same line as the Rav4.
Yes I’m aware, but Toyotas are plasticky enough and if Suzuki is a slightly budget version….
Will have to inform the guy at my dealership next time I speak to him that he gave me a bit of wrong information lol
Sadly, most car sales people are very poorly informed about the scheme. It’s amazing the things that people quote on this forum that dealers have told them that are completely untrue
its great all these high end evs are coming on the scheme but what are the rest of us supposed to do?
That’s one of the points I made this morning. Reading this forum you’d think that 90% of Motability customers are switching to EVs, yet I think the latest figures they released said it’s only about 10% so far. I said the same as you – they aren’t catering well for the majority.
So far apart from VW pricing the others I’ve seen have been very miserable. Citroen has priced everything too high aside from the c3 and c4. The Berlingo has shot up to £4500 to match the combo and rifter.
Id love to see the Kia EV9 come onto the scheme, it won’t of course but that’d be an ideal vehicle for me, 7 seats plus plenty of room for equipment etc
EV9 starts at £65k, that’s a push for Motability, unless they’ll consider a 10+ grand AP.
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Incidentally, the Across is built by Toyota on the same line as the Rav4.
Yes I’m aware, but Toyotas are plasticky enough and if Suzuki is a slightly budget version….
Its a fully loaded one spec fits all, sitting somewhere in the middle of the mid and top spec Rav4.
its great all these high end evs are coming on the scheme but what are the rest of us supposed to do?
That’s one of the points I made this morning. Reading this forum you’d think that 90% of Motability customers are switching to EVs, yet I think the latest figures they released said it’s only about 10% so far. I said the same as you – they aren’t catering well for the majority.
Around 150 BEVs compared to over 500 petrol cars, so fake news/trolling. There are no ‘high-end’ BEVs are on the scheme, cars on the scheme are equivalent in spec and quality to the petrol equivalents. Retail price is nothing to go on, a huge proportion of a BEV is the battery, manufacturers are offering discounts on BEVs to meet their emissions targets. Look at the prices for PCP/Lease deals on petrol cars, they generally higher than BEV deals, that is the best link to deals Motability can offer.
Around 150 BEVs compared to over 500 petrol cars, so fake news/trolling. There are no ‘high-end’ BEVs are on the scheme, cars on the scheme are equivalent in spec and quality to the petrol equivalents. Retail price is nothing to go on, a huge proportion of a BEV is the battery, manufacturers are offering discounts on BEVs to meet their emissions targets. Look at the prices for PCP/Lease deals on petrol cars, they generally higher than BEV deals, that is the best link to deals Motability can offer.
I don’t know how long you’ve been on this forum @Jim but @mitch and I have been contributing here for many years and I don’t appreciate your tone (“trolling”).
There are some very decent EVs making it on to the scheme now, including some from premium manufacturers, such as the Audi Q4, BMW iX1 and BMWi4. As you are alleging that this is fake news, perhaps you can point us in the direction of the ICE equivalents of these three cars? A petrol BMW X1 or BMW 3 Series Touring would, I am sure, be of interest to many of us and we have clearly missed them.
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