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With all the stuff going on with the Ionic 5 I am now looking at the Scenic as a fall back. Especially since the prices went down today.
I saw one at the Motability show along with an Ionic 5 and a Skoda Enyaq. Chose the Ionic 5 as the Renault looked poor quality in comparison.
What are they like to live with? Did it look poor because it had been a well used and badly looked after show car? Are they nicer in real life?
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No not ipedal I haven’t been able to get over 3.5 with that yet I feel it would be better on faster roads. It’s like the adaptive cruise control but at low speeds the one that does stop start traffic without having to use the pedals and automatically sets the “cruise control” to the speed limits. In that mode it automatically adjusts the regen and accelerator for you so you just steer and press the button when it says in traffic, been a game changer on the commute.
Im still learning stuff about the car every day lol, so i hold the right paddle until it says auto, what happens at corners, islands and giving way ?
You just press the brake and when you release the brake it takes over again ?
Also what button do you press in traffic and what for ?
Yes they have been local mainly traffic jams to the next town across. I’ve worked in the trade for over 20 years so had quite a bit of experience driving all the different cars. That sounds good mileage as well! I was going to heat the car up before going on journeys when the temperature drops.
Thanks for that I was expecting some drop but that gives me a good idea in the cold meant to be a bad winter.In the winter we see 44/45 miles per 14.2 kWh charge average 3.10/3.17 miles a kWh this includes charging loses.
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
Well, hospital appt today, 9 miles and tried lowest regen in normal mode an managed 2.9 Mi/kWh, certainly had heating at 22 c most of the time.
Return trip, tried Eco mode, only a little part of the trip with heat on an it was 3.1 Mi/kWh. Outside temp was 12 deg.
Somewhat realistic figures for most small/Mid SUV EV,s.
Usually its always one pedal driving, it is brilliant. The car essentially drives itself.
According to Bluelink, the average is 3.41 Mi/kWh over 7000 miles.
Not that it makes any difference at all. I never usually look at efficiency or miles range.
Instead I charge it to 90% and when it gets down to 40 or 50, charge it up again.
Just like the petrol car, when it got to half tank, fill it up.
Well, hospital appt today, 9 miles and tried lowest regen in normal mode an managed 2.9 Mi/kWh, certainly had heating at 22 c most of the time. Return trip, tried Eco mode, only a little part of the trip with heat on an it was 3.1 Mi/kWh. Outside temp was 12 deg. Somewhat realistic figures for most small/Mid SUV EV,s. Usually its always one pedal driving, it is brilliant. The car essentially drives itself. According to Bluelink, the average is 3.41 Mi/kWh over 7000 miles. Not that it makes any difference at all. I never usually look at efficiency or miles range. Instead I charge it to 90% and when it gets down to 40 or 50, charge it up again. Just like the petrol car, when it got to half tank, fill it up.
Your figure sound about right over 7,000 miles strangely just got back from Tesco 11 miles heating 22 C 2.9 miles kWh
Unfortunately I have suffered a brain injury and occasionally say the wrong thing.
Yup that is about correct Oscarmax.
Indeed, Carwow did an SUV drive them until they died a last year, all cars were on the same settings and the average was 3.2 To 3.7 Mi/kWh. They are real world figures.
If you are researching SUV EV,S these kind of tests gives you an accurate picture of your vehicles efficiency.
Im still learning stuff about the car every day lol, so i hold the right paddle until it says auto, what happens at corners, islands and giving way ?
You can do it this way but i haven’t found that to be the most efficient
You just press the brake and when you release the brake it takes over again ?
You don’t even need to press the break it just stops in traffic and if it moves on within a few seconds it will just go on its own if its longer it asks you to tap the accelerator or press up on the speed adjustment on the steering wheel
Also what button do you press in traffic and what for ?
The best way to set it up is go in to the settings so it automictically adjust the speed for you this is manually done otherwise with the speed adjustment on the steering wheel, then press the same button you use for cruise control this uses the camera to recognise the signs for the speed and sets up the regen to auto reading the road, the only time needing to press the brake if your at the front for traffic lights, and round abouts it should recognise them but mine isn’t and going in for an update.
I am assuming you have the newer more advance and efficient model mine is the N line s model, the older ones are due to get some updates but have different sensors
Yup, I use one pedal all the time. In Normal mode, left paddle for full regen and the car does all the braking and accelerating for you.
I set cruise control according to the road speed signs. Accelerate to what speed I want an right toggle up to set cruise control, brake as necessary. Braking switches off cruise, so just set it again. My car is my23 and a year old.
Its the most comfortable way to drive it and nothing to do with efficiency.
I did not get the I5 to be efficient. I never did concern myself with range in my petrol car or the I5, it is meaningless. The I5 surpasses my previous cars by an enormous margin and in every respect.
One pedal driving isn’t efficient and i was replying Markah2007 with my post.
That isn’t the cruise control I’m on about that’s the old system as is the my23 they have brought a new one out since with more spec and efficiency but they have mentioned yours should be able to get some of the add-ons via a software update.
I don’t understand why your still getting involved with the conversation as you keep pointing out you don’t care about efficiency you’ve just pointed out your car doesn’t have the same settings as mine for efficiency. I have a commute i do everyday so im trying to get the best out of it all be that i only need to charge every second week cost of living is so high so its not meaningless to me i want to save as much money as i can its not about the range.
One pedal driving isn’t efficient and i was replying Markah2007 with my post. That isn’t the cruise control I’m on about that’s the old system as is the my23 they have brought a new one out since with more spec and efficiency but they have mentioned yours should be able to get some of the add-ons via a software update. I don’t understand why your still getting involved with the conversation as you keep pointing out you don’t care about efficiency you’ve just pointed out your car doesn’t have the same settings as mine for efficiency. I have a commute i do everyday so im trying to get the best out of it all be that i only need to charge every second week cost of living is so high so its not meaningless to me i want to save as much money as i can its not about the range.
Ah, there was s reply to my post at 10.00 am, so I answered it.
You do not get to choose who can, and who cannot reply to a post. It does not work that way.
If you want to address a specific member, then you begin your post with @(insert membername)
You should have specified your answer was for Markah.
Thank you for that i had been pressing reply on the persons post thinking that was how you did it but thanks for clearing that up for me much appreciated.
@Chris567 i dint know where im going wrong but i also have a 74 plate n line s and when i hold the right paddle it changes from level 1 to auto but then it does absolutely nothing i have to drive and stop myself
This is how I get one pedal.
Switch on, bott right of dash is “autohold” button press that, there should be the notification bott left of screen autohold is on.
Once its on it stays on an sometimes my knee knocks it off.
As I pull away in Normal mode, I flick the left paddle 3 times to switch on one-pedal.
Once am on my way, I set cruise using steering wheel button top right, and when its at mY desired speed 30mph, still in town flick the right toggle up once and that sets the speed. The car will then keep the distance to the one in front and brake and accelerate to match.
It is level 2 ‘Partial Automation’ auto steer (HDA2) on motorways only. That is where its magic.
On normal roads you brake and accelerate as required, hit the toggle up,to set your speed an you are off.
Usually I dont touch the brakes and let it follow the car in front.
Maybe the my24 have reversed the paddle? But my one left paddle increases regen and right paddle decreases.
There is also the default setting i. The settings menu. My one is set to level 3 on startup.
@Ioniq i know how to get into i-pedal for one pedal driving and how to use the cruise control.
This is a completely different setting, hold right paddle until it says Auto instead of 1,2,3, or i-pedal.
Once in Auto it is my understanding the car should automatically drive at the speed limit without keep reactivating and changing cruise control settings and should brake for cars slowing etc.. you just steer and can also brake with the left paddle if needed.
However when i put it into Auto its just doing nothing
Sorry I cant help you with that one.
It could be the settings in the system, you may want to check that first, and make sure its setup to drive to speed limits. Like everything else there are varying levels of assistance which can be individualised.
Its not something I would use anyway. Every speedo is set a few miles less than the actual speed. Manufacturers build an error of 2 or 3 mph. Such that with cruise control i set at 32mph in town and 74 on the motorway.
Easy to check, use google maps or Waze for navigation they show your true speed rather than the speedometer.
I would go through the settings menu first, just to ensure it is set correctly. Some of the menus you have to swipe up to see the complete options.
Good luck, you will get there, its just a pain.
I was thinking about your problem.
If you want the car to obey speed signs, then you MUST have active cruise control on
Active cruise control is the basis on which HDA2 operates.
You will have to activate active cruise control first, and then try your paddle thing.
Give it a shot.
@Ioniq thats what ive been thinking, im going to try it today, chris above didn’t explain very well and just said hold right paddle until it says auto and itll drive by itself including braking and acceleration minus steering input, I’ve looked on YouTube and there it states the same but says under 6mph you have to take over with brake and acceleration so someones incorrect.
I might look through the manual but its soo thick ive avoided it 😂
Ioniq is right it uses the adaptive cruise control you don’t need to press the paddles, when it’s setup it just works like it’s in auto mode with the regen I think that’s where the confusion has come from I’m not great at explaining things on paper sorry.
If you had switched on the auto speed adjustment in the settings then above 18mph I think it is for initial setup press the adaptive cruise control button then it will say to match the speed limit on the road press up on the speed adjustment to match the road sign, then it will say automatically adjusting speed limit, set your distance like you would for the motorway system and that’s it will auto regen and adjust your speed to the signs but also do stop start in the traffic you don’t touch the paddles. It will do auto regen on its own, you just steer.In the setttings I’ve only turned on the auto speed and turned off the lane keeping assist I find that dangerous.
The manuals are very thick I’ve only read the bits I’ve wanted to know so far 😂 then with driving the mustang and enyaq both have a similar system on the new models different way from the Tesla’s I used to drive.
I’m booked in end of this month to have the update done on the camera to enable more features apparently stopping at traffic lights and junctions which the vw system already does, kind of so not holding my hopes up but getting the update anyway hopefully it’s better.Hope that helps markah2007
@Chris567 thanks for the info, ill try find the auto speed adjustment setting although im guessing its already active as my car fully drives itself on the motorway, although thinking about it, it didn’t drop or increase its own speed when their was a new speed limit on overhead gantry etc..
What menu is this setting in ?
Also i thought the updates were over the air, is yours not a new n line s ?
Also whete did you find out about the camera update, i can’t find anything.
Thanks mark
It’s not active from factory and it’s not the same as the motorway system if you can give me about a hour I can find out.
I questioned them about the over air updates and it’s an update and calibration so they need the car for a day which I wasn’t very happy about. It’s already had over the air update about 2 weeks ago I got a notification on Bluelink and on the car about it. But yes it’s a 74 plate N line s same as yours.
I’m having issues with my wipers they aren’t clearing the windscreen it’s been back in to be checked and annoyingly they don’t have the wipers on the shelf and neither do kwickfit. I found out about the update as I have worked with a few of them when I was a regional technician and just got chatting about the car.
@Chris567 if its too much bother dont worry about it ill have another look but theres soo much settings its overwhelming.
I thought i had already been through every single page but obviously not as i haven’t seen that option.
So would i contact Hyundai dealer if i wanted that update or will come over the air soon ?
I appreciate the help, thse sites are a god send 👍
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