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i think all manufacturers should have to produce a base model for those like me that hate the techy touchyfeely crap they force upon us.
my countryman is a pain in the autumn as its collision avoidance raddar picks up the leaves falling off the plain trees round here,getting off the estate is a nightmare on a wind day.pings andd bongs abound from various items all the time.
the only tech i find useful is the front and rear parking sensors and a rear view camera would be nice but the rest you can keep.
so manufacturers should make a base model with parking sensors and a rear camera, everything else should be buttons and knobs no touchy feely computer screens.just a sat nav and a stereo with buttons.
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Base model Dacia.
You’re welcome.
I know what you mean Mitch! . I like new technology, but some of it has negative consequences. The front collision assist system on our Tiguan was a nightmare. Like yours, it was too sensitive (even on the least sensitive setting – I’m sure you know, but you can usually set them to early / normal or late in terms of reaction sensitivity). On two or three occasions the car did an emergency brake, once on a motorway (triggered by a shadow cast by a bridge) and once in the rain when moments before we were being tailgated by a van.
I didn’t like the adaptive cruise on the VW either, as it would brake unnecessarily and take far too long to build back up to speed when a car I was following had turned off into a side road. The adaptive headlights were far too slow to react as well which, at times, was quite dangerous. Our BMW has forward assist and adaptive headlights, but both work properly and we just have normal cruise control again which I much prefer. Thankfully we still have knobs and buttons for the climate control, heated seats etc. The trend towards these things being on touch screens is a definite backward step IMHO.
turn them off
turn them off
If you mean the forward collision assist machoco, on the VW (and I suspect others) you can’t switch it off permanently. You have to do it every time you start the car, which is a pain as it was via a menu and I didn’t always remember to do it.
triggered by a shadow cast by a bridge
Front collision assist is radar based.
It doesn’t react to shadows. It physically can’t.
I do agree with the adaptive cruise control though, ours is slow to react/pick up again as well. But after seeing how much more petrol we use when driving with ACC, that hasn’t been a problem anymore lol.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.triggered by a shadow cast by a bridge
Front collision assist is radar based. It doesn’t react to shadows. It physically can’t. I do agree with the adaptive cruise control though, ours is slow to react/pick up again as well. But after seeing how much more petrol we use when driving with ACC, that hasn’t been a problem anymore lol.
I thought it was odd, but it was a clear motorway with no leaves or debris and nothing in front of us, yet the brakes slammed on the second that we hit the shadow. Could have been pure coincidence, but either way we lost confidence with the car, especially as the dealer couldn’t find a fault.
We had that happen before too, at least similar. The warning popped off in the dashboard, but it didn’t brake.
We put it down to an insect potentially hitting the sensor bang on. I’m not saying/implying it hasn’t happened to you, i’m just saying that it can’t have been the shadow since a radar doesn’t pick up colours, only “objects”.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.the cruise etc on the kona i dislike so much i just dont use. its far too fiddly. its a shame as toyotas version was great and i used it all time. forunately im inclined to indicate when i change lanes anyway(most of time) but that can be a bit oppressive at times too. Ive not had it emergency brake at speed as of yet but the toyota did it a few times, often if a car in front decided to exit a lane into a slip.
it just shows how far they really are from automomous driving.
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistI have a low railway bridge 100 yards from my house and every time I approach it the anti collision alarm goes off telling me to brake.
I love all the tech but you have to manage it. It freaks out when cars in front turn left or right and slows right down, but a gentle rest on the throttle keeps us going until we have passed. There is more to driving today than 40 years ago for sure.
Snow has caused me problems, but nothing else, especially shadows!!
Skoda Enyaq Race Blue
Even though I like the sat nav screen, and the display it gives I hate using the thing, I think these screens are to distracting to have ever been passed safe….
However that’s just my opinion, it’s not really open for conflict and understand if I don’t reply to who thinks differently ?
Even though I like the sat nav screen, and the display it gives I hate using the thing, I think these screens are to distracting to have ever been passed safe…. However that’s just my opinion, it’s not really open for conflict and understand if I don’t reply to who thinks differently ?
Whilst I love Sat Nav it’s true that it’s very distracting, and fiddling with in-car tech is a major cause of accidents these days, although it’s not as easy to prove as using a mobile phone where the Police can easily check your phones history.
I’m with you 100%, Mitch. Front and rear parking bleepers are fine. All the other stuff is a nuisance and potentially dangerous. Every time I start up, have to fiddle about turning off front-assist, lane-keeping, ACC, stop-start etc. A right pain, but safer not to have wonky sensors and software braking/steering the car into danger without warning.
I can turn them all off on my Merc’, the issue being a 5 minute ritual every time you start the car as they reset to default every time the ignition is cycled.
If I seem a little strange, that's because I am.
Skoda Karoq SEL.
i need to read my manual again lol
Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoistAs I said before Glos Guy you had unresolved issues with your Tiguan because I haven’t experienced any of the problems you had.
The adaptive cruise works fine and its certainly not slow on the uptake, if anything I find the acceleration faster than it need to be.
Just been to pick up the grandkids this Morning and averaged 50mpg and 45mpg from new 33,000 miles
The adaptive cruise works fine and its certainly not slow on the uptake, if anything I find the acceleration faster than it need to be.
No, what he means by slow uptake is this. Imagine sitting behind a guy at 60mph on an A road. The guy in front starts indicating and slowing down, and so does your cruise control. He pulls out of the lane, what should happen is that the cruise control immediately starts accelerating the second the road is clear.
It doesn’t. It continues to slow down for a while, then picks up. It’s not about the acceleration, it’s about the time it takes until it accelerates when someone in front of you slows down and then leaves the lane.
It’s a known problem with the VAG cruise control, not just in the Tiguan – our Ateca does it too, and so did the Golf GTE we test drove.
Prior: SEAT Ateca Xcellence Lux 1.5 TSI DSG MY19, VW Golf GTE PHEV DSG MY23
Current: Hyundai Ioniq 6 Ultimate
Next: we'll see what's available in 2028.As I said its not slow on the uptake and the acceleration is faster than it needs to be.
It builds back to speed just fine.
The adaptive cruise works fine and its certainly not slow on the uptake, if anything I find the acceleration faster than it need to be.
No, what he means by slow uptake is this. Imagine sitting behind a guy at 60mph on an A road. The guy in front starts indicating and slowing down, and so does your cruise control. He pulls out of the lane, what should happen is that the cruise control immediately starts accelerating the second the road is clear. It doesn’t. It continues to slow down for a while, then picks up. It’s not about the acceleration, it’s about the time it takes until it accelerates when someone in front of you slows down and then leaves the lane. It’s a known problem with the VAG cruise control, not just in the Tiguan – our Ateca does it too, and so did the Golf GTE we test drove.
Exactly that Rene. Perfectly described.
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