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- January 17, 2024 at 3:33 pm#255542
There seems to be a glut of posts on the forum over the last few months about the Skoda Enyaq (also BMW I4) but much less so about its cousins the Audi Q4 and VW ID.4/ID.5. Why is it that so many people are fixated on the Enyaq over the others?
I know some of the posts have been triggered by the 80/85 upgrade and by Motability’s chopping and changing of the options on their list but the Audi and VW counterparts also went through this to a lesser extent.
So is it perhaps because the Enyaq is offered in higher trim levels, is it the AP or is it something else?
It would be interesting to know whether this is reflected in the numbers of Motability orders placed for these cars.
OK, so I realise I’m adding to the glut of posts about the Enyaq with this
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- January 21, 2024 at 10:14 am #255897
Personally I was torn between the Enyaq and Ioniq 5.
I had two test drives in each and in the end have opted for the Ioniq.
I appreciate it is marmite but I love the looks both in and out. It also felt more comfortable for me and the charging speed was a factor as I do a few long journeys here and there.
I also found the workings of the car, particularly the speed limiter and ACC easier to use on the Ioniq too. I hated the location of this on the Enyaq and kept hitting the indicator.
That said, I fully accept the Enyaq is a great motor and incredible value on the scheme and wish all getting one happy motoring.
January 21, 2024 at 1:35 pm #255916The batteries on the 60 & 80 series are made by CATL. The batteries on the 85 series are made by LG Chemicals. http://www.catl.com http://www.lgchem.com The BMS (Battery Management System) is upgraded on the 85x & VRS models.
VW groups 82kWh (77kWh net) use LG Chem’s LGX E78 Cells. Each cell has a capacity of 78Ah and an energy density of 265 Wh/kg. The cell chemistry is NCM 712.
Each of the VW groups 55kWh, 60kWh, 80kWh, batteries contain a varying number modules containing 24 LGX E78 cells, in a battery pack configuration as below..
VW group 55kWh batter – Enyaq 5o
Gross capacity: 55 kWh
Usable capacity: 52 kWh (94 %)
Modules: 8
Cells: 192 (96s2p battery configuration)
Total cell weight: 206 kg
TMS: active liquid coolingVW Group 62kWh Battery -Enyak 60
Total capacity: 62 kWh
Usable capacity: 58 kWh (94 %)
Modules: 9
Cells: 216 (108s2p configuraion)
Total cell weight: 232 kg
TMS: active liquid coolingVW Group 82kWh Battery – Enyak 80 & 85
Total capacity: 82 kWh
Usable capacity: 77 kWh (94 %)
Modules: 12
Cells: 288 (96s3p)
Total cell weight: 309 kg
TMS: active liquid coolingSkoda confirmed 85, 85x and VRS retain the same 77kWh unit as the 80 and 80x. A boost in range and power, is provided as a result of changes to the battery and energy management software, and an upgraded AP550 motor. This is also confirmed for the rest of the VW as a whole.
VW group builds its own battery packs in Europe using imported LG Chem cells. Skoda’s Mladá Boleslav plant is the only European production facility for MEB battery systems outside Germany. Battery systems from Mladá Boleslav used in ŠKODA, Volkswagen, Audi and SEAT MEB models.
VW Group MEB platform cars are supplied with CATL’s 590 large module, ultra thin 57kWh and 87kWh battery’s, to FAW-VW and SAIC VW in China. They use NCM811 cells and have an energy density of 270Wh/kg prismatic format and 300 Wh/kg in pouch format.
January 22, 2024 at 7:40 am #255944So, I’ve been following this thread with interest. Much of what has been said in favour of the Enyaq is undeniably true and I can understand why so many folk are choosing one for their next car. For me, personally, I went for the Audi Q4 which is currently on order.
One small factor is that I am a bit of a traditionalist and cannot abide the tablet style infotainment systems seemingly stuck onto the dash as an afterthought which is the route most manufacturers appear to be going. This is also true of VW, not only with their EVs but the new Tiguan MK3 is the same. I do agree that the ID.4 interior is very bland and is a turn off for me, this coming from a family that has had VWs exclusively for 20+ years. Also, I watched several comparison reviews between the VW ID.4 and Audi Q4 and the Audi came out on top by a long way in most of them (admittedly those including the Enyaq tended to put that in first place, largely due to its value for money). However, much of the extra kit on the Enyaq is ‘nice to have’ as far as I’m concerned and I think I can manage without the umbrella and ice scraper the Skoda offers
Due to my wife’s medical condition, by far the most important criteria in choosing our next car is the comfort and smoothness of its ride and this was the main reason we went with the Audi Q4 Sport with its Comfort Suspension and generous tyre wall depths, to the extent that even if the S Line had been available on the scheme, the fact that it has lowered Sport Suspension and larger wheels which means less rubber meant we would still have gone with the Sport trim level. I just hope they haven’t tinkered with the Comfort Suspension too much in the recent upgrade.
Incidentally, I seem to remember one or two posts a while ago commenting that a shortfall in production of the APP550 motor was one reason for the VW and Audi EV manufacturing delays in December. I haven’t read anything recently to suggest whether this has been resolved one way or another.
January 25, 2024 at 8:25 pm #256302Followed a white Enyak IV 80x for a short time tonite……i liked the extra long high level brake light and the strobing turn indicators.
January 26, 2024 at 9:47 am #256342You get a lot of car for your money in the Enyaq plus the interior is so much better and bigger than the id4, the boot on the Enyaq is just mind blowing. The id4 isn’t small at 540l bit the roof slopes in too fast you lose a lot of height, the Enyaq boot is over 40 litres bigger with seats up plus the roof is just more sensible. Plus with the Enyaq you don’t have the ridiculous window switch penny pinching that you get on the VWs
Dunno about trim and spec on the Audi but I’d be surprised if stuff wasn’t optional extras.
January 28, 2024 at 8:33 am #256522Why would you not want one of these, they are beautiful! And in Moon White metallic with the black trim they stand out! It has “Synergy” Form & Function in harmony!
Skoda Enyaq Coupe 85x Sportline Plus Adanced, Heat Pump & 21" Supernova Wheels In Moon White Metallic - Ordered 27th December 2023 - Confirmed 31st January 2024 - Build Week 16 (W/C April 15th) Estimated Delivery 26th May. Build Week moved back to week 23 W/C 3rd June) Build Week moved again to week 32 (W/C 5th August) Brought forward to week 27 (W/C 1st July 24) Advised Week 31 That car us built & in Transit to UK. August 22nd, car arrived at dealership but wrong spec. Collected the car 18/9/2024. Ver
January 28, 2024 at 10:19 am #256530Yes, the coupe is absolutely gorgeous, but for us, the precticalicty of the SUV for hauling two Golden retrievers around, the press to roll up parcel shelf cover, the lack of rear wiper and the big glass roof making the car in my tests noisier and no sun cover made us decide on tge suv version, but the coupe I’d by far the most gorgeous and streets ahead of the id5 and audi coupe siblings
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