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  • #168396
    Fletch

      I think it is incredible that AP have risen so much in the last couple of years. I’m not here to judge who can and can’t afford AP and what car they should be getting.

      Seems as though there is a public outcry at Electricity, Gas and train fares amongst others going up and rightly so but Motability customers are expected to sit back and do nothing about the massive increase in prices. My Kuga cost £1749 in Q2 and is now £2200.

      I feel sorry for anyone ordering at the moment. When will the price increases stop?

       

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    • #168401
      ajn

        I agree it’s very, very expensive..

        If I stay on and don’t end up extending at the end of this one, (we don’t know how things will pan out in 2years)….I’ll go for the cheapest biggest thing on the scheme at the time, if however it a load of Chinese junk I don’t like I’ll go get my self a camper..

        #168402
        Glos Guy
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          I think it is incredible that AP have risen so much in the last couple of years. I’m not here to judge who can and can’t afford AP and what car they should be getting. Seems as though there is a public outcry at Electricity, Gas and train fares amongst others going up and rightly so but Motability customers are expected to sit back and do nothing about the massive increase in prices. My Kuga cost £1749 in Q2 and is now £2200. I feel sorry for anyone ordering at the moment. When will the price increases stop?

          I agree. For those who are in the financial position to look elsewhere, the combination of rising AP’s and ever decreasing choice means that Motability is becoming less and less attractive. The sad fact is that the majority of Motability customers probably aren’t in a position to explore other options and are therefore trapped.

          It’s easy to lose sight of the scale of these AP increases as we talk £ rather than percentages, but the AP on your Kuga has increased by 26% in a matter of months. I hadn’t realised until a few days ago that the X1 that we took delivery of a few months ago has gone up by £500, which is an 18% increase. We had contemplated extending our last lease but it would have been a huge mistake if we had. In just a matter of months since we ordered, costs have gone up, choice has gone down and lead times have got ridiculous – and that’s pretty much across the board.

          #168405
          Wigwam
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            Our XC40 has gone up £1200 this quarter. At the new AP price, we wouldn’t have chosen it .

            #168409
            fwippers
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              <p style=”text-align: left;”>Cheapest plug in hybrid is well over 2k. Very few “bargains ” at present.</p>

              #168412
              Avatar photostruth
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                kona range is still pretty decent value. 8 of the 11 on scheme are under 500 quid

                Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
                Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist

                #168414
                Jojoe

                  Skoda Octavia DSG eTech 1L mild hybrid gone from £749 Q2 to £1749 Q4. Motability need to turn on the taps of £2 billion they have in reserve.

                  If you speak to Motability, they will say you can apply for a grant. But we are not all entitled to a grant. This will probably be our last Motability car if AP’s don’t come down.

                  #168419
                  Lets Get Organised

                    It’s amazing how much the prices have gone up but if the chief executive is on over a million with all the bonuses and Motability made 150 million profit last year then they have no choice because someone has to pay for all those nice perks and swanky offices and now the Scottish government is setting it up its own version so it must be a profitable business flogging leases to the disabled.

                     

                    Its a long read but you only get the figures at the end you can also find out that notability has its own separate business at disposing of the lease cars and it should be more transparent about what they offer us the car at the end of the lease and what it actually goes for

                     

                    its a very interesting read and as stakeholders 650,000 of us we should get together and get more organised to start to pressure on Motability to prioritize us as customers as we are the sole reason why they even exist.

                    please feel free to pass this on to as many Motability customers as possible

                    https://www.motability.org.uk/media/42efv1be/annual_report_and_accounts_2019-2020.pdf

                    #168420
                    Lets Get Organised

                      Motability get rid of their cars via this site

                      https://www.mfldirectcustomersupport.co.uk/mfldirectauction/

                      #168421
                      Paul

                        When you get a quote to buy from motorbility after your lease,they wont budge on what they want .I offered £2k less than wanted and refused,it went to auction and they got £1600 less than my offer.Recently was told they prefer to goto auction than sell to us , because if they do sell to us thats a loss of a new lease customer.

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                        #168425
                        Wigwam
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                          Also it’s advantageous to manufacturers to supply Motability knowing that after three years the cars go back into the trade to keep the main dealers supplied with stock.

                          #168429
                          Glos Guy
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                            When you get a quote to buy from motorbility after your lease,they wont budge on what they want .I offered £2k less than wanted and refused,it went to auction and they got £1600 less than my offer.Recently was told they prefer to goto auction than sell to us , because if they do sell to us thats a loss of a new lease customer. .

                            Spot on. I always ask for a price at the end of each lease out of curiosity and it’s always a few grand more than the car is worth. People who are tempted to buy ‘because they know the car’ often forget that the price being asked by dealers is always negotiable and furthermore it will come with a warranty – unlike any car you buy from Motability. As with financial products, it’s fair to say with cars that ‘past performance is no guarantee of future success’. As with white goods, it’s often as though manufacturers programme faults to occur during the year after the warranty ends!

                            #168434
                            fwippers
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                              Only time I know of someone getting a good price was the widow of an ex motability customer.

                              #168437
                              Markw
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                                My example, I paid just over 1k for my current vehicle 2 years ago, you would 4k AP today.

                                Currently driving Seat Ateca 2.0 FR Sport TDI 190 DSG 4drive

                                Mokka E ultimate on order

                                #168438
                                Avatar photostruth
                                Participant

                                  car i have, a c-hr design is now 3750. it was about 1500 or so when i got it 3 years ago. so doubled

                                  Current Car: Hyundai Kona Premium EV...2 way 40kg hoist
                                  Last Car: Toyota C-HR Excel Hybrid...4 way 80kg hoist

                                  #168441
                                  fwippers
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                                    At present electrics seem to represent the best value for money. If the demand for second hand petrol and diesels continues to decline over the next 5 years we are likely to see higher AP´s to offset the lower residuals.

                                    #168443
                                    Jojoe

                                      At present electrics seem to represent the best value for money. If the demand for second hand petrol and diesels continues to decline over the next 5 years we are likely to see higher AP´s to offset the lower residuals.

                                      That’s spot on, just hope Motability reflect this is the AP of Electric’s, as they seem to be holding their value really well.

                                      #168447
                                      Avatar photoWindy
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                                        The only way buying your own car will work is if Motability go back to HP that was how it used to be once lease came to an end you could buy using your allowance on Hp your happy Motability still make interest and profit. Then chances are when your car is 6 years old after buying you go back for a new lease everyone wins. Unfortunately there would never have been a better time with the stock shortage so I am guessing if they don’t go back now they never will

                                        I am the carer / driver for my wife who cannot drive due to disability

                                        #168456
                                        Marc
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                                          car i have, a c-hr design is now 3750. it was about 1500 or so when i got it 3 years ago. so doubled

                                          It was £795 in quarter 1 this year so an increase of 475%, shocking.

                                          Daughters motability car Hyundai Tucson Ultimate self charging hybrid Serenity White Moss Grey interior.
                                          My car SEAT Ibiza SE Tec 1.2 petrol TSI 2017.

                                          #168470
                                          Kwikfitman

                                            Oh the illusion of choice now let me see those nice people at the banks are nice friends with the people that make cars and they are so nice that they and the government have got together and had really nice jelly and after that they all got together and decided that those disabked folk could do with some help so they invented the Motability charity to help them disabked folk with their finance, oops no change the name before they find out what we are up to

                                            #168471
                                            Kwikfitman

                                              <p style=”text-align: left;”>See if you can join the dots…</p>
                                              washing powder adverts over time

                                              Early years ” what you want is a big box of powder it will last a long time and do lots of washes

                                              No you don’t want that old box of powder what you want is liquid because that old powder will clog up your machine liquid is the future

                                              No you don’t want that liquid you want that old powder but this time we have squeezed it into a hard block its called a tablet but not the kind you would want to swallow that will come later

                                               

                                              No you want the liquid in a bright colour like a sweet that your child will swallow thats what you want

                                               

                                              No use the same analogy for cars

                                              You want petrol

                                              No you want diesel

                                              No that diesel that we told you we now found out its bad

                                              You want petrol

                                              No you don’t

                                              You want electricity

                                               

                                              Guess what you wanted Hydrogen all along

                                               

                                              Silly you

                                              #168472
                                              Kwikfitman

                                                The ilussion of choice yes you do have a choice if you have deep pockets so the vale of choice is there but few can afford it so shut up and put up or we can get ourselves organised and have a go back by voting 630,0000 thats quite a big army at £250 a month and we can choose where to spend our money  and Motability or what can call the incumbent supplier need to wake up a bit and see the completion

                                                #168473
                                                Kwikfitman

                                                  Competition

                                                   

                                                  #168474
                                                  Kwikfitman

                                                    Oh your right there is no competition

                                                    Who’s fault is that

                                                    Yours because your too lazy to do anything about it

                                                    Oh well

                                                    Never mind

                                                     

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                                                    #168475
                                                    Kwikfitman

                                                      Anyway I’ve got to go now the men in white coats have come it was nice to chat with you all

                                                       

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                                                      #168476
                                                      Kwikfitman

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